Niburu, Devil, Freemasons, UFOs..

[Dowly]

Get it all here! (No, I'm afraid he is serious)
http://www.youtube.com/user/gorilla199

Discuss.

PS. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/beds/bucks/herts/7194961.stm :haha:

[Raptor1]

The conspiracy has made his channel unavailable in my country!

[Dowly]

The conspiracy has made his channel unavailable in my country!

Right, well I give it to you in a nutshell: Christ is awesome, Freemasons are EVERYWHERE (seriously, he says that most of world's companies are run by them), pyramids are all landing pads for UFO's, naturally Freemasons are part of it too. NASA has uncovered photos of Niburu and they know it's real, but they just like to post the photos still.

I honestly don't know how this man can live his life when he sees devil and freemasons everywhere he looks. :doh:

AmazingAtheist has a go at him:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaxAwh4QcYg

This one's an anti-Gorilla199 channel, but you should get the idea by watching the vids there:
http://www.youtube.com/user/gorilla199uncensored

[TLAM Strike]

...pyramids are all landing pads for UFO's...
Think about that, aliens travel across the universe and need a big pointy pile of rocks to land on. What do they do when they travel to "strange new worlds"?

"Aw crap no pyramid to land on... well on to the next planet..."

:D

...naturally Freemasons are part of it too. well yea... Mason builds stuff from stones... :roll:

:O:

[Dowly]

^ :har:

[antikristuseke]

Yeah, I have posted links to this loons stuff before, he has a certain entertainment value, but that is common in the batguano insane.

[AVGWarhawk]

Personally I think he is on to something. :hmmm:

[Raptor1]

So, let's see if I got this. There are Freemasons and Alien dudes, the Freemasons are Hoomans who are working for the Alien dudes and the Alien dudes look just like Hoomans; they make up 20% of the population and own 99% of all businesses.

What is the supposed objective of these Aliens and their Liberated Construction Worker minions?

[Oberon]

Does he cover the Lizard men conspiracy? :hmmm::haha:

[Tribesman]

Thats brilliant, even better than Yubbas secret south pole telescope and asteroids with the illuminati.

You gotta love some of constantines stuff.
"the media called me 'a man', that is cryptic masonic code meaning I am of the stock of Adam":har::har::har::har:

[Dowly]

Does he cover the Lizard men conspiracy? :hmmm::haha:

Yes, the Tares he speaks off are reptilian. :DL

[Raptor1]

Yes, the Tares he speaks off are reptilian. :DL

I thought they look just like humans. :doh:

[Dowly]

I thought they look just like humans. :doh:

If I understood it correctly, they can take the form of an human.

[Raptor1]

To what purpose? They must have a pretty good reason to go to all the trouble of dressing up as humans and hiding on Earth...

[Alex]

Right, well I give it to you in a nutshell: Christ is awesome, Freemasons are EVERYWHERE (seriously, he says that most of world's companies are run by them), pyramids are all landing pads for UFO's, naturally Freemasons are part of it too. NASA has uncovered photos of Niburu and they know it's real
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a75/Panzer_Kamerad/smileys/tv.gif
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a75/Panzer_Kamerad/smileys/ii.gif


http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a75/Panzer_Kamerad/smileys/uglylaugh.gif

[Dowly]

To what purpose? They must have a pretty good reason to go to all the trouble of dressing up as humans and hiding on Earth...

The heck I know, I'm just here to make fun of the guy. :DL

[Task Force]

Well, I think ive heard my days worth of stupid.:yep:

[Raptor1]

I figured the purpose of the invasion would be the funniest bit of this whole mess, but looks like it's just another plot hole... :nope:

[ETR3(SS)]

Sounds like someone got drunk and went on a V watching binge.:haha:

[Task Force]

I figured the purpose of the invasion would be the funniest bit of this whole mess, but looks like it's just another plot hole... :nope:

Well you see, they are like hunter, attracted to cheese.

[Raptor1]

The aliens are Dutch? That explains a lot...

[Task Force]

The aliens are Dutch? That explains a lot...

Explains Hunter.:hmmm:

[Buddahaid]

So, let's see if I got this. There are Freemasons and Alien dudes, the Freemasons are Hoomans who are working for the Alien dudes and the Alien dudes look just like Hoomans; they make up 20% of the population and own 99% of all businesses.

What is the supposed objective of these Aliens and their Liberated Construction Worker minions?

Sure! Didn't you ever watch The Invaders? Look out for the unbendable pinky fingers.

[Takeda Shingen]

NASA=Satan. Who knew? I also find the hiss at the end to be the element that drives the argument beyond assault. Check and mate.

[Sailor Steve]

Dowly, you little maggot! You're always bringing up garbage like this! You puke! You wouldn't know a cospiracy if it bagged your mother! Get this through your whiny little ferret brain - there is no conspiracy! If you mention 'conspiracy' again I will personally come to your useless little country and make ferret stew for my dinner! Do you understand me, you jackwagon!

Sorry, just got through watching the 'Full Metal Disney' link, and I'm still recovering.
:rotfl2:

But the reality?

George Washington was a Freemason. Benjamin Franklin replaced Voltaire as the leader of all Masonry in France.

Cover-up?

[TLAM Strike]

I figured the purpose of the invasion would be the funniest bit of this whole mess, but looks like it's just another plot hole... :nope:

"So they fly half-way across the galaxy in a highly advanced spaceship, but they don't use their technology to take over the planet. You know what their weakness turned out to be? Water. I mean, if that's true, why go to all the trouble to invade a planet that's two-thirds water? Not to mention the rain."
-Col. Sam Carter SG-1

Thats brilliant, even better than Yubbas secret south pole telescope...

Didn't realize the well documented Amundsen-Scott Radio Telescope was top-secret... (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Pole_Telescope)

Now the question I have is if Satanic Lizard Aliens are secretly running the world why do they need a telescope to do a survey of our solar system built on Earth? Would they not have more advanced sensor systems on their spaceship? Plus since its a spaceship it would not have to deal with our atmosphere degrading the performance.


:haha:

[Buddahaid]

I hear they're (the Gorn) behind the tea party movement as well.

[Tribesman]

Didn't you ever watch The Invaders? Look out for the unbendable pinky fingers.
So Maggie Thatcher is an alien, that explains a lot.:yeah:

[Castout]

So, let's see if I got this. There are Freemasons and Alien dudes, the Freemasons are Hoomans who are working for the Alien dudes and the Alien dudes look just like Hoomans; they make up 20% of the population and own 99% of all businesses.

What is the supposed objective of these Aliens and their Liberated Construction Worker minions?

Build free homes for the poor?

It's actually now 99% of all population and 20% of all business. Yea I know tough times, most people just wanted free ride :haha:



I thought they look just like humans. :doh:

Actually it's us who look like them :O: so who's copying whom again?



As for Nibiru: No evidence, hardly enough exposure


As for Devil:
Haven't met the devil yet though our old house(almost 3 decades back) had something evil in it. It strangled my mom once, showed itself to her(once in RL, once in dream), and choked the guy who was supposed to watch over our house and scared him so much that he refused entering again.
A female winged demon which my mother saw in an old hotel room decades ago(plucked and walking around on the ceiling)
and a folklore female demon seen by multiple number of family members flying and laughing in some plantation also about 3 decades ago.
As for me I haven't seen one with my own eyes any demon but have in a number of times seen them as a mental image(not made up or fantasied), including an evil spirit sent into my dorm room back in 2002 in Singapore and

I believe at least on one occasion one which was able to fly literally showed me who just made my heart laughed...in a room full of people in broad daylight by flying over to the person(and emitting ripple of felt energy along the way) who just made me laugh for something she was saying in her heart/mind so now I concluded that at least some of them are able to know what I'm feeling or thinking well aside God(again: Meh).
So it's nothing unusual to me. As what a Lion would say: Meh. Saw God(Christ) though, the guy ,more like entity since couldn't even see the figure, which emitted unbearable white light from His face LOL...no really it was when I was a kid(Why not I asked for it and it was answered immediately :P).


UFO: Haven't seen one, not enough evidence but would love to accept and wish that mankind are not alone as a civilization in this universe.

[DarkFish]

UFO: Haven't seen one, not enough evidence but would love to accept and wish that mankind are not alone as a civilization in this universe.Oh, there probably is life somewhere in this universe. Maybe even a complex civilization like ours. But how are they supposed to get a UFO here anytime soon?

Ah wait - I get it! The pyramids are actually teleporting devices build by freemasons!:stare:



Niburu - yawn:yawn:

Devil - I'm an Atheist/Germanic Paganist. First I don't believe in the Gods as actual living beings, second there is no such thing as a Devil in the Germanic Pantheon (Loki looks most like one but even he is not entirely bad, and nowhere near a devil). Two reasons not to believe in devils.

Freemasons - just another bunch of weirdos. Nothing dangerous, nothing extraterrestrial. I'd say live and let live.

UFO's - Unidentified Flying Objects, of course some flying objects are unidentified. But that doesn't mean they're extraterrestrial. Some people seem to think so though.
Yes, I believe in Aliens. No, I don't believe their technology is anywhere near advanced enough to get here.

[Oberon]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oP-rkzJ6yZw

[TarJak]

SSSSHHHHH! Can the masons running this forum please ensure that this thread is deleted ASAP?:D:har::har::har:

[Takeda Shingen]

SSSSHHHHH! Can the masons running this forum please ensure that this thread is deleted ASAP?:D:har::har::har:

The Worshipful Master does not deem the closure of this thread as a matter of importance.

So mote it be.

[frau kaleun]

Anyway, it's too late for that. I've already beamed the entire thing to the mothership.

[TarJak]

Damn! I'll have to go and hide in my pyramid until this blows over then.

[Sailor Steve]

ONOZ! They're everywhere!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tT0WEFs2S90&feature=related

[TarJak]

Its OK Steve, just get yourself a nice big roll of tin foil and make a pyramid shaped house, climb inside and they can't get you there.:03:

[frau kaleun]

http://riverdaughter.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/tinfoil.jpg

[antikristuseke]

The tinfoil is a government conspiracy! It makes it easier for them to steal your thoughts.

http://people.csail.mit.edu/rahimi/helmet/

[Sailor Steve]

Its OK Steve, just get yourself a nice big roll of tin foil and make a pyramid shaped house, climb inside and they can't get you there.:03:
Tin foil? Pyramid? Hide?

Nuts to that! I'm gonna join 'em! :woot::D

[TLAM Strike]

Tin foil? Pyramid? Hide?

Nuts to that! I'm gonna join 'em! :woot::D
Welcome to the club...
http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/2790/normalsg1304277.jpg

[yubba]

So tell me, what was this thing, that was twice the size of jupiter and flew through our solar system like a bat out of hell in 2003 they gave it a nane it was called the NEAT comet. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjD5aayptXk&feature=related I'm just a analyist I fine this stuff and tell you about it, Ok and what the hell is this thing ? Iwonder how they did that.http://turbo.inquisitr.com/wp-content/2009/12/norway-spiral.jpghttp://www.samliquidation.com/images/chabad7.jpghttp://2.bp.blogspot.com/_N2NYUHtz8p8/SmPzFT8LttI/AAAAAAAAACk/ZVkPuuKILlY/s400/nibiru_2.jpg

[TLAM Strike]

Sorry but I just watched the video you just posted and I have to...
http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/4020/danielsfacepalmbyxaikan.jpg
That hurt a little...

Where do I start?

Lets do a science experiment...
Go out side and look at the sun...
No hold up your hand in front of your face...
OMFG its bigger than the sun!!!!

....No its not you idiots!! The comet is about the size of an aircraft carrier or two but its shooting out all sorts of stuff because the sun is basically boiling it and its passing closer to the SOHO's camera than the sun.

"The sun flare moved the comet"...

Ok its bigger than Jupiter and the solar flare move it... why didn't the solar flare knock us out of orbit... why didn't the solar flare microwave us?

"It should have pulled Mercury in to the sun."

... yes it should have... but it didn't... because its not twice the size of Jupiter.

Ok something of two Jovian masses that close to the sun would begin to pull in matter ejected off the sun and ignite for a little while.

http://turbo.inquisitr.com/wp-content/2009/12/norway-spiral.jpg
Photoshop... :haha:
Want me to make you a giant planet zipping by Earth with it? :O:

http://www.samliquidation.com/images/chabad7.jpg
I would say that appears to be the radiation plume of a large fusion drive. Probably from a spacecraft gathering antimatter from the sun with a bussard collector... ;)

[yubba]

I just find this stuff I didin't say I believed it well maybe a little until you guys tell me different so the burden is on you all. got something else for you to look at and sort http://www.quake.utah.edu/helicorder/heli/yellowstone/YMR_SHZ_WY_01.2010090100.gifout god I love this stuff earthquakes inside yellowstone volcano.

[yubba]

Where are my manners http://quake.utah.edu/helicorder/ymr_webi.htm here you can keep an eye on this.

[TLAM Strike]

Looks like a seismograph reading too me... and its from Yellowstone a known geographic hot spot... not unusual there.

What is unusual is that the readings are in microvolts. Not sure what that means...

[Dowly]

http://turbo.inquisitr.com/wp-content/2009/12/norway-spiral.jpg
Photoshop... :haha:
Want me to make you a giant planet zipping by Earth with it? :O:

I believe that is an shot off the spiral thingy that was seen in Norway months back. :yep:

Possible explanation: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zx8i5EfmYU4

[yubba]

Like I said before I lived next to space center for the last 25 years ,try to watch every launch seen alot stuff blow up, but never seen that. kind of funny that the angle is about 33 degrees about the same as NEAT comet coming in, and by the way if such a comet did exist why was nothing said about it, quite a historical moment I would think. It's not the crime that kills you it is the cover up. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjD5aayptXk&feature=related

[Dowly]

Like I said before live next to space center for 25 years try to watch every launch seen alot stuff blow up, but never seen that.

How many out of control rockets you've seen? Which I believe was one of the prime explanations for this.

[TLAM Strike]

I believe that is an shot off the spiral thingy that was seen in Norway months back. :yep:

Possible explanation: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zx8i5EfmYU4

Didn't know there was a video, but yea missile failure.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Z-3fjg4dYY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkT3I6RDPkw

Looks like one of Russia's RSM-56 Bulava missiles failed. They have a about a 50/50 success rate so far...

[yubba]

1 saw Challenger 2 saw a delta that blewup on the pad, work at port canaveral felt blast concusion 3 morning launch atlas pretty explosion. 4 night launch delta 4 another nice explosion was in the port to see that one too. they are moving faster than a bullet after 20 seconds and they disintegrate. And watched all the video of rockets gone bad ,still never seen a perfect spiral ,you. So if a large comet flew by of historic value why nothing said ? First it was a spiral then it turn into a different image . You show me footage of any rocket doing that, then I'll considerate it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShUAK4P0NZg

[TLAM Strike]

they are moving faster than a bullet and they disintegrate. They rapidly drop to subsonic when they break up and there can be quite a bit left when they do, such as a fuel tank (remember the Hydrazine tanks that survived Columbia?)

Also how do you know what altitude it was at? I go out and watch satellites all the time with my binocs- they move at about the speed of an aircraft or a little faster. If something is farther away then it appears to be moving much slower than it really is.

[Dowly]

You show me footage of any rocket doing that, then I'll considerate it.http://psas.pdx.edu/TridentSpin/trident-2-dnsc8906614.jpg

I believe the burden is now on you.

[yubba]

http://turbo.inquisitr.com/wp-content/2009/12/norway-spiral.jpggood try I fell much better now. Next how about some speed and alititude. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShUAK4P0NZg that didn't change into this.

[yubba]

Why you guys let me slip like this, it is as plain as the nose on your face, No debris, what goes up must come down, no debris trails that's what, what was missing, every failure I watch had debris falling, this didn't, you know why, because it wasn't a rocket or missile. Where is the debris falling out of the sky? Anything burning and fallen out of the sky leaves a trail this didn't. Explain that. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmWbV_YkQT0&feature=related see ma all those hours watching Columbo paid off yea yea this was bothering me for some time and just one more thing. If you have ever seen a night time launch it lights up alot this didn't, it appeared out of no where another impossibility. Check and Mate.http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:cku8LIS9uw3w1M:http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2006/12/images/061211-shuttle-photo.jpg (http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2006/12/images/061211-shuttle-photo.jpg)

[FIREWALL]

Well, I think ive heard my days worth of stupid.:yep:


Whadda ya mean ? Your heads got room for alot more. :haha:

[kiwi_2005]

This brings back memories, I would buy the magazine 'The Unknown' over here as i had a big fascination with conspiracies out there. I would read the monthly mag page for page thinking man these editors know a lot this is fantastic! The editors were kiwis so i did have my suspicions:). After doing a bit of my own research on the mag i found out that every topic even word for word was copied/pasted off the internet! Even the images were grabbed:har: I stopped buying it after that.

[Tribesman]

Brilliant, post #10 finally delivers.:up:
Thanks Yubba you even did the DESTROYER AKA Niburu AKA NEAT AKA planet X picture again:rotfl2:
Now all you need to do to complete the picture is inform us of the secret telescope once more:yeah:

[Dowly]

Check and Mate.

I'm afraid we are long ways from it.

Question: Why would Russians admit it as being their failed Bulava launch? Are you implying there is some global cover up?

Question #2: If that is indeed an big arse comet, then how come no one saw it coming before that? You realise there's millions if not tens of millions of amateurs in the world with quite good optics that would have seen this one.

Ow and as for comet NEAT, the only thing historical in it (AFAIK) that it was the brightest comet seen, it's size was not much larger than the other comets we have seen. Ow right and it takes roughly 37,000 years for it to come around Earth again, so guess that shoots down the whole 2012 Niburu BS. :O:

[yubba]

http://pole.uchicago.edu/depot/images/dsl_sky_2.jpgwhen do the russians admit too anything and what you believe everything that big brother tells you . I try too keep an open mind about it, just siffting through all the misinformation about this subject.

[TLAM Strike]

Why you guys let me slip like this, it is as plain as the nose on your face, No debris, what goes up must come down, no debris trails that's what, what was missing, every failure I watch had debris falling, this didn't, you know why, because it wasn't a rocket or missile. Where is the debris falling out of the sky? Do you think the Russians would launch their missile and have it fly over a city! It was a missile from a submarine launched most likely to a target area out at sea somewhere like they have done thousands of times.


...it appeared out of no where another impossibility.The missile malfunctioned! Its possible that its shut down and restarted thus appearing out of nowhere. Or its dummy warhead was a MIRV (Bulva is said to have the most advanced one ever fielded) and was manuvering in erratic patterns to be harder to shoot down. Or the bird features a decoy using one of its stages- a big spinning mass of propellant would help mask the next stage during its launch from attack from below like from say a YAL-1 type aircraft.

[Blood_splat]

The Malmstrom AFB UFO/Missile Incident. :up:

[Dowly]

http://pole.uchicago.edu/depot/images/dsl_sky_2.jpg

I really hope you're not posting that image to say there's something "extraterrestial" about it. :DL

when do the russians admit too anythinghttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1234773/The-answer-mystery-Norways-spiral-light-display-Was-failed-Russian-Bulava-missile-test.html

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34362960/

http://english.pravda.ru/russia/politics/10-12-2009/111033-bulava_spiral-0/

Take your pick.

and what you believe everything that big brother tells you.Is that a "yes" to my question about global wide conspiracy?

I try too keep an open mind about it, just siffting through all the misinformation about this subject.Ok, if you think the stories about the missile are misinformation, then please provide proof or even a hint of proof that it was "something else".

See, the burden is still on you.

[yubba]

well it could have been a fail missile test or not , the big question is comet neat . If it came and went why all the silence about it. If nothing happens in 2012 more than a hangover ,then I can say I was right.

Planet-Sized Comet Headed This Way?
By Edgar J. Steele
2-24-3

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After a great misery for mankind an even greater approaches. The great cycle of the centuries is renewed: It will rain blood, milk, famine, war and disease. In the sky will be seen a fire, dragging a tail of sparks. ---Nostradamus, Century 2, Quatrain 46 (1654)
A huge comet is rounding the sun, a comet twice the size of jupiter (from tip to end of tail -ed) (about 22 times the size of earth). Some have seen it at sunrise and sunset; otherwise, it is not visible because it is occluded by solar glare. Essentially, it is coming from behind the sun and was first observed by NASA less than two months ago. NASA's solar observatory has released a number of pictures of this comet, but those stopped just as a huge coronal mass ejection (an event which is to the hydrogen bomb as the hydrogen bomb is to a firecracker) erupted from the sun toward the comet. Some call these things "sunspots." This comet is passing within 9 million miles of the solar surface. In celestial terms, that is a very near miss. You haven't heard about this, have you? Remember the hullabaloo over Hale/Bopp and Levy/Shoemaker? They were pikers by comparison with what has been dubbed Comet "NEAT."

Animated Sequence
http://www.windows.ucar.edu/tour/link=/headline_universe/comet_neat_anim_feb_2003.html (http://www.windows.ucar.edu/tour/link%3D/headline_universe/comet_neat_anim_feb_2003.html) http://www.rense.com/1.imagesD/soho.jpg Why all the silence this time? I have read a good deal of speculation on several different internet sites. Some see it as biblical prophecy fulfilled (see Revelations - you might agree). Some consider this to be "Nibiru" or "Planet X," foretold by the Mayans as passing through the solar system every 3600 years or so. Some consider this simply to be an awesome photo opportunity. Some say the strange weather on Earth lately is the result of an effect caused by the sun which in turn is responding to Comet NEAT. Electromagnetic fields reach hundreds of millions of miles into space, you see, and are generated by all celestial objects. Influences occur at distances far in excess of that between the sun and comet Neat or, for that matter, between Earth and comet Neat. The sun has a regularly-repeating solar "sunspot" activity cycle of approximately 11 years. 2000 was to have been the most recent peak. Solar > activity, rather than dropping off in year 12, as it always has, has continued to rise ever since. Earth's magnetic field has been weakening in an accelerating fashion of > late. The North Pole, which wanders anyway, has traveled almost as far in the past 20 years as it did in the 100 years prior to that, when it was located in Canada's northern Yukon Territory. Some hypothesize that Earth's poles reverse when its magnetic field reaches zero. The geological record proves the poles have shifted many times down through the history of the Earth (metal flakes in lava align with the magnetic field, to be frozen in place when the lava cools, you see, just like the needle in a compass). Coincidence? Perhaps. Maybe it is nothing. Maybe it is something. If something, it could be the most significant occurrence in recorded human history. Generally, the concern is not that Comet NEAT will strike Earth or even come near us (though I have yet to see a good description of its path relative to Earth). Rather, the concern is for the effect upon us through the electromagnetic interaction between it and Earth and the Sun. There is a secondary concern that something this huge could have smaller objects following in its wake, or that pieces of it broke off during the massive solar flare when it passed near the Sun, pieces that might find their way to Earth. "Planet buster" asteroids can be as small as 1/3 mile in diameter. Just five days ago, a Rand Corporation (government think tank) scientist, Dr. Geoffrey Summer, publicly stated that secrecy would be the best option if it were discovered that an asteroid were about to hit the earth: "Overreaction not just by the public but by policy-makers scurrying around before the thing actually hits because we can't do anything about it anyway ... to a large extent you are better off not adding to your social costs." Go here for one of NASA's official web pages carrying photographs of this comet: http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov/hotshots/2003_02_12/ Something tells me you should take a look right now, though. Who knows if this will be available even tomorrow? For the moment, my question is, "Why is there no media coverage of Comet NEAT?" Of course, we all know how paranoid I am. "I didn't say it would be easy. I just said it would be the truth." - Morpheus Copyright ©2003, Edgar J. Steele Forward as you wish. Permission is granted to circulate among private individuals and groups, post on all Internet sites and publish in full in all not-for-profit publications. Contact author for all other rights, which are reserved. On-Line link to this article in HTML format:
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[Tribesman]

So let me see if I understand this correctly.
Yubba really is gorilla199 AKA Chris Constantine and nibiru really is coming to eat the planet but will be late as the mayans can't count properly as they were taught by freemasons who deliberately gave them a bad education in maths

[TLAM Strike]

A huge comet is rounding the sun, a comet twice the size of jupiter (from tip to end of tail -ed) (about 22 times the size of earth).
:har:
A comet with a tail twice the size of Jupiter... that's quite small as a comet's tail goes. Comets with tails of 1AU (AU=the distance between the Sun and Earth) have been observed. The record holder is the Great Comet of 1843 which had a tail in excess of 1.6 AU. (http://www.crystalinks.com/comets.html)

[Dowly]

well it could have been a fail missile test or not , the big question is comet neat . If it came and went why all the silence about it. If nothing happens in 2012 more than a hangover ,then I can say I was right.

Because there wasn't anything more special about it than that it was the brightest comet recorded, it wasn't some planet size comet or anything like that. Why no one cared? Well, media doesn't care about space anymore like it used to.

[TLAM Strike]

Because there wasn't anything more special about it than that it was the brightest comet recorded, it wasn't some planet size comet or anything like that. Why no one cared? Well, media doesn't care about space anymore like it used to.
Actually it was the 7th brightest comet in the past 70 years. ;)

Other than the fact it did not break up when it neared the sun it was wholly unremarkable.

[DarkFish]

Other than the fact it did not break up when it neared the sun it was wholly unremarkable.Well, of course you don't know the reason why it's remarkable. The Freemasons keep it secret, y'know:doh:

[Dowly]

Actually it was the 7th brightest comet in the past 70 years. ;)

I stand corrected. :salute:

[yubba]

Just remember it's not so much the crime that bites you in the butt it's the cover up. So if the Russians got a missile that can do this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxA0Asq2YDg and they claim it is a failure, hate to see it work properly. So which direction did they shoot that thing off any way.http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/dd/South_Pole_Telescope_%282008%29.JPG/400px-South_Pole_Telescope_%282008%29.JPG (http://www.subsim.com/wiki/File:South_Pole_Telescope_(2008).JPG)

[Dowly]

Just remember it's not so much the crime that bites you in the butt it's the cover up.

And that cover up would be?

So if the Russians got a missile that can do this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxA0Asq2YDg and they claim it is a failure, hate to see it work properly.

Umm... a missile designed to follow a path to it's target that then spins out of control is usually called an failure. :roll:

So which direction did they shoot that thing off any way.

Countries conducting these tests dont usually reveal such info.

[TLAM Strike]

hate to see it work properly.
So would I, it would look something like this... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v99CMKJdYDM)

So which direction did they shoot that thing off any way. East to West I think, roughly from the Barents in to the North Sea using a sub based on the Kola Peninsula.

[yubba]

http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/uploads/av-66443.jpg (http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/index.php?showuser=66443)where's the earth shattering kar boooom

[TLAM Strike]

http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/uploads/av-66443.jpg (http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/index.php?showuser=66443)where's the earth shattering kar boooom

Is this a sufficient Kaboom? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NthWqgMnoHQ)

[Sailor Steve]

And that cover up would be?
The very fact that you deny that there's a cover up. If you would only see that the possibility of a cover up makes it worth investigating, you might realize that if there were no cover up we wouldn't have to mention it.

Umm... a missile designed to follow a path to it's target that then spins out of control is usually called an failure. :roll:
Unless of course it was designed to spin out of control to divert attention from the cover up.

Countries conducting these tests dont usually reveal such info.
Of course they don't. It's all a cover up.
:rotfl2:

[TarJak]

Wrong Steve. It's never been a cover up. It's always been a white wash.:O:

[Tribesman]

It's always been a white wash
But its a white wash on black ops so its a grey matter.

[TLAM Strike]

But its a white wash on black ops so its a grey matter.

But all the Red Tape makes it Pink... :hmmm:

[Sailor Steve]

You guys are so gullible. TarJak's "whitewash" is just a part of the coverup.

And no, I don't buy tinfoil at the store. I have it delivered in bulk. :sunny:

[Raptor1]

But the tinfoil is manufactured by corporations which are under the control of Freemasons and aliens and so it must be filled with all sorts of mind control equipment...

[Sailor Steve]

<whimper>

[TLAM Strike]

<whimper>

Don't cry Steve, the tin foil hat doesn't provide any protection- you need to go bigger... (http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/2555/do-tinfoil-helmets-provide-adequate-protection-against-mind-control-rays)

[antikristuseke]

You guys are so gullible. TarJak's "whitewash" is just a part of the coverup.

And no, I don't buy tinfoil at the store. I have it delivered in bulk. :sunny:

The tinfoil is a government conspiracy! It makes it easier for them to steal your thoughts.

http://people.csail.mit.edu/rahimi/helmet/

A few pages ago, pay attention man or they will get you!:x

[yubba]

this ought to keep you busy for a bit, oh yea I copied this.


In Decmember 2009, an unprecedented atmospheric anomaly was observed in the skies above Norway.
Initial reports as to the cause were varied but eventually mainstream opinion appeared to favour the Russian malfunctioning missile scenario. Initially disavowing any knowledge of the cause of the effect, Russia eventually accepted responsibility and admitted that the spiral effect was a direct result of the malfunction.

On the surface, this seems to have satisfied the majority of people and already this marvelous event is fading into memory.
But for those who aren't satisfied with such glib and superfluous "explanations" and prefer to dig deeper, I offer the following alternative scenario ...


Let's do a simple analysis to see if the "malfunctioning missile" scenario can possibly be debunked ....

Looking at the following image, the nominal flight path of the Bulava missile when launched from the White Sea area would have placed it almost immediately on a north-east trajectory, following a great circle route to it's intended impact point in the Kamchatka penninsula, approximately 5,500 kms distant.
And yet for the missile to be so clearly visible in the Norwegian sky (http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread526637/pg1#), implies that the missiles guidance system must have almost immediately failed and changed it's path to a north-westerly direction, almost a 90 degree shift in direction ... and headed instead towards Norway !
http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/e2768db2f6bd.jpg



Based on the following image, it is clear that if the spiral was the result of a failed missile test and was visible from Norway, then it should also have been clearly visible from both Sweden and Finland which both would have been within the missiles flight trajectory - yet corroborating eye witness reports from either of these countries is almost non-existent. Virtually every report and image originates from Norway alone, implying that the spiral display (irrespective of the source) must have occurred at a very low altitude if only visible from Norway.
http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/d30f661d48e2.jpg



Now lets determine whether I'm justified in stating that the spiral display occured at a very low altitude which is not commensurate with the proposed mainstream conclusion that it was the result of a failed Russian Bulava missile test.

Firstly, lets take a look at the Bulava's specifications:
http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/178a40aed8fa.jpg

Not mentioned is that the Bulava has an apogee of 1,000 kms which is achieved after the successful burn of all 3 stages.

We are now being told that this particular Bulava test failed because of problems associated with the third stage burn. Now this implies that until the 3rd stage problems, that the 1st and 2nd stages completed their burns nominally which should have lifted the Bulava to an altitude of at least 500 kms.
But here we have a major stumbling block in our acceptance that the spiral was a direct result of the missile failure.
If the spiral was mainly observed only from Norway, that implies that the missile was already off course shortly after launching and heading in a radically wrong direction and would cross at least 3 sovereign countries of Finland, Sweden and Norway. It also implies that the missile never reached any appreciable altitude otherwise the spiral effect would have been visible over a vast geographical area and not just Norway. The immediate question to be asked is why the missile was allowed to complete a 1st and 2nd stage burn and not terminated immediately a deviation was noticed ... with the potential horrendous political repercussions should it come down in one of those 3 countries, especially Norway !
It's common knowledge that all previous Bulava tests that had inflight malfunctions were immediately terminated ... and yet this one doesn't appear to have been.
So why have Norway, Sweden and Finland remained completely silent on the entire matter instead of raising a political #-storm over Russia (http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread526637/pg1#) test firing flawed missiles through their air space ?


Now lets take a look at whats been stated to be proof of a Russian missile launch on that day ... namely the visible exhaust trail.
In the following images, you can clearly see on the horizon what appears to be an exhaust trail and has been taken as evidence of a missile launch ... in this case the launch of a Bulava missile on 9 December.
http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/159703980bc9.jpg


Now take a look at the following image that illustrates the "distance to the horizon" calculation.
http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/3411ec7b680f.jpg

For someone of average height standing at sea level, the distance to the horizon is approximately 5 kms.

Let's use the above calculation and rearrange it so that instead of determining the distance to the horizon, we use it instead to calculate the height.

Now, the distance from Tromso, Norway to the White Sea is approximately 800 kms. Plugging this value into the rearranged equation tells us that to be able to see the "exhaust plume" created at the White Sea from a distance of 800 kms, that the height of the plume will need to extend an incredible 40 kms into the upper atmosphere. If that wasn't bad enough, to be able to visually see that plume, it would imply that the exhaust plume had a width in excess of 10 kilometres !!
A height of 40 kms and a width greater than 10 kms ... all from the launch of a single missile ... thats equivalent to the exhaust plume from a shuttle launched in Cape Canaveral being seen 800 kms away in North Carolina ... somehow I don't think so !!!!

So, as has been shown, it doesn't take much analysis to arrive at the conclusion that whatever was responsible for the spiral effect above Norway, it could NOT have been the result of a failed Russian missile test ending in a spectacular fashion in the airspace above Norway.

Well, if a missile test could NOT have been responsible for the spiral display in the sky, what other options or possibilities would make more logical sense ?

[TarJak]

this ought to keep you busy for a bit,

Now lets take a look at whats been stated to be proof of a Russian missile launch on that day ... namely the visible exhaust trail.
In the following images, you can clearly see on the horizon what appears to be an exhaust trail and has been taken as evidence of a missile launch ... in this case the launch of a Bulava missile on 9 December.
http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/159703980bc9.jpg


Now take a look at the following image that illustrates the "distance to the horizon" calculation.
http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/3411ec7b680f.jpg

For someone of average height standing at sea level, the distance to the horizon is approximately 5 kms.

Let's use the above calculation and rearrange it so that instead of determining the distance to the horizon, we use it instead to calculate the height.

Now, the distance from Tromso, Norway to the White Sea is approximately 800 kms. Plugging this value into the rearranged equation tells us that to be able to see the "exhaust plume" created at the White Sea from a distance of 800 kms, that the height of the plume will need to extend an incredible 40 kms into the upper atmosphere. If that wasn't bad enough, to be able to visually see that plume, it would imply that the exhaust plume had a width in excess of 10 kilometres !!
A height of 40 kms and a width greater than 10 kms ... all from the launch of a single missile ... thats equivalent to the exhaust plume from a shuttle launched in Cape Canaveral being seen 800 kms away in North Carolina ... somehow I don't think so !!!!

So, as has been shown, it doesn't take much analysis to arrive at the conclusion that whatever was responsible for the spiral effect above Norway, it could NOT have been the result of a failed Russian missile test ending in a spectacular fashion in the airspace above Norway.

Well, if a missile test could NOT have been responsible for the spiral display in the sky, what other options or possibilities would make more logical sense ?It only took me 30 odd seconds to work out this calculation of his is based on the assumption that the photos were taken by an average heigt person at sea level and if not then the calculation is worthless. Is there any evidence to suggest this was in fact the case? The article mentions Tromso, in Norway. Tromso is built in a fijord surrounded by high mountains. Is there any information that these photos were take from sea level in Tromso?

http://www.besthoneymoonideas.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/Tromso_88.jpg

This calculation falls flat on its face if the photos were taken from any higher than 50 odd metres. The argument is pointless without the vital information as to the height that the photo was taken from. Where were they taken? They could have been taken somewhere nearer to the launch site but unless we have that datum we have no case either way.

[Tribesman]

Nice website Yubba , so the global masters are getting mind control of everyone by putting microchips into them with the flu vaccine.
Obama is a CIA operative, the same CIA who blew up the WTC on 9/11 and hurricanes are guided by defence contractors for the new world order by the use of chemtrails:up:
You really don't disappoint do you:har::har::har::har::har:

[antikristuseke]

I wonder if someone wears their pants on his head.

[TLAM Strike]

Lets see it was Observed low near the horizon in Tromso in Northern Norway... why wasn't it seen in Sweden or Finland? Because there are few heavly populated cities in Northern Sweden and Finland! Norway has around 10 decently populated Cities and Towns in its northern half around the Latitude of Tromso or above, Finland has one the rest if it is national parks, Sweden has no major areas of population above the arctic circle...

[Task Force]

Hmm, so in the end, its all a conspiracy!

[TLAM Strike]

Hmm, so in the end, its all a conspiracy!
Yes its a conspiracy that no one lives in Northern Finland or Sweden to confirm the Norwegian pinwheel was a missile... :O:

[yubba]

Got my chip in the back of my head ,trips red lights drives my freinds nuts' and why is there a blank spot in my google sky at 5hr 53min 27sec -6 10 58. Well how much propellant would it take to paint that much sky, you guys seem too be pretty good at math remember that the forth stage is about the size of a mini van, also weight means thurst . Still believe the russians would actually let a new missle fly over, I'm guessing 3 NATO Allied nations, and risk giving up state secrets if it flew at all.

[Task Force]

Yes its a conspiracy that no one lives in Northern Finland or Sweden to confirm the Norwegian pinwheel was a missile... :O:

Yes, its also a conspiracy that earth is populated...

[Sailor Steve]

i wonder if someone wears their pants on his head.
Stop spying on me!

[Task Force]

stop spying on me!

Hmm, If you wear yer pants on yer head.:hmmm::o

[antikristuseke]

Stop spying on me!

Hey, it is not my fault, being a pervert is part of my job description!:stare:

[Sailor Steve]

Hey, it is not my fault, being a pervert is part of my job description!:stare:
Bestest job in the world, getting paid for your favorite hobby. :D

[antikristuseke]

Being former recon, bushwatching is second nature to me:dead:

[TarJak]

To Steve being a forma Sailor, being on watch is his second nature. Go figure.

[frau kaleun]

Shine on, you crazy diamonds. :O:

[antikristuseke]

As if this thread was not full of the crazy allready, I wonder when will the bat**** collapse in on itself forming a massive black hole.

[yubba]

The only way to prove my theory on Comet neat fly by is to use infared camera and look for something hot in the upper left part of orion might see it with telescope but it will be a faint brown object, got to much light pollution here and no telescope, some one on you tube beat me to it anyway . Gee I wonder why we have so much solar activity after all this time.:hmmm:
http://www.lbl.gov/Publications/Currents/Archive/view-assets/Feb-18-2005/SouthPole.jpg

[TLAM Strike]

The only way to prove my theory on Comet neat fly by is to use infared camera and look for something hot in the upper left part of orion might see it with telescope but it will be a faint brown object, got to much light pollution here and no telescope, some one on you tube beat me to it anyway . Care to post a link to this video on You tube?

Gee I wonder why we have so much solar activity after all this time.:hmmm: We are actually in a low point of solar activity...
http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/5286/ssnpredictlstrip.gif


http://www.lbl.gov/Publications/Currents/Archive/view-assets/Feb-18-2005/SouthPole.jpg^What is that? :06: A picture out of context doesn't mean much. Is it another photo of the "secret" observatory in the Antarctic?

[Tribesman]

Still believe the russians would actually let a new missle fly over, I'm guessing 3 NATO Allied nations, and risk giving up state secrets if it flew at all.
This conspiracy goes deeper than we expected, two countries are secretly in NATO

[yubba]

You' ll have to excuse me it was running late , to back track that orion link I got it and sure wish I had the equipment too check this out my self. Maybe some of you stargazers can take a peek http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRRKWjg9QOs oh pictures of southpole telescope without context is now my trademark let you know where your money is going, I'm glad you guys got deep pockets it must have cost a fortune to get that dozer down there. Geezas said I was guessing at the time couldn't spell sovern at the time nato was easier. And what happen too Dowly , he down in the cellar trying to get a model rocket too do back flips
http://pole.uchicago.edu/public/images/sp-2006-0.jpg

[Takeda Shingen]

This conspiracy goes deeper than we expected, two countries are secretly in NATO

Shhhh! Or the black helicopters will come for you too!

[TLAM Strike]

You' ll have to excuse me it was running late , to back track that orion link I got it and sure wish I had the equipment too check this out my self. Maybe some of you stargazers can take a peek http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRRKWjg9QOs The coords he give put it in the constellation Auriga not Orion. It appears to be one of the double stars near the open cluster NGC 2281.

Found the location on my own star maps BTW which predate Google Sky by many years, so no censoring by Big Brother...


oh pictures of southpole telescope without context is now my trademark let you know where your money is going
http://pole.uchicago.edu/public/images/sp-2006-0.jpg Good to see my 1/2 of 1 cent per tax dollar at work...

[yubba]

you find that blank spot in google sky. 5hr 53 min 27 sec -6 10 58 remember 200 of those 1/2 cents make a dollar. You' ll have to drag out the telescope and take a peek ,I got so much Light pollution here can't even see orion maybe to nite.

[Blood_splat]

Another crazy story is about this guy named Jesus who died on the cross for our sins. Millions of people are awaiting for his return. :rotfl2:

Also men are killing themselves and are rewarded 72 virgins in the name of Allah. :rotfl2:

Sombody seen a ufo they must be crazy! :rotfl2:

This whole planet needs a giant tin foil hat.:O:

[Task Force]

Another crazy story is about this guy named Jesus who died on the cross for our sins. Millions of people are awaiting for his return. :rotfl2:

Also men are killing themselves and are rewarded 72 virgins in the name of Allah. :rotfl2:

Sombody seen a ufo they must be crazy! :rotfl2:

This whole planet needs a giant tin foil hat.:O:

Lol, yea... Hmm, might help with global warming!, or might cook us alive.:hmmm:

[yubba]

A Tin foil hat might make all the difference from a open casket or a closed casket funeral. I get saved every sunday just for insurance. Amen hallaluha now pass the damn peas.

[TLAM Strike]

5hr 53 min 27 sec -6 10 58
and that is the location of? A dim star near Saiph in Orion.

remember 200 of those 1/2 cents make a dollar. This is a post I made in another thread on the topic of NASA funding:
BTW when you go though you pocket change tonight, look at that penny there. Think about 1/2 of that. For every tax dollar you give to Washington that 1/2 of a cent goes to NASA. That 1/2 of a cent gives us the Shuttle, the ISS, The Hubble, Space Camp, Astronaut visits to schools, environmental research, Mars rovers, Probes the gas giants and Pluto, plus dozens of other programs. Would you miss another 1/2 of a penny at the end of the day?
You' ll have to drag out the telescope and take a peek ,I got so much Light pollution here can't even see orion maybe to nite. You wont be able to see Orion anyways, its a winter constellation.

[yubba]

the ghost of summer will appear an hour before sun rise so look to the east an hour before sun rise. I got a blank spot there looks like that thing in space oddessey 2001, monolithe that was google earth sky .

[TLAM Strike]

the ghost of summer will appear an hour before sun rise so look to the east an hour before sun rise. Yea it starts to rise just before sun up. But Orion is best viewed in the winter.

But I work afternoon or evenings so waking up that early to look is not an option. Besides I don't own a IR telescope like that guy on You Tube- just a pair of binocs.


I got a blank spot there looks like that thing in space oddessey 2001, monolithe that was google earth sky . Google Sky is not the only source out their for stellar data. (http://www.fourmilab.ch/cgi-bin/Yourtel)

[yubba]

yeah, all I got here in florida is a pair of binocs, got a cheap o telescope in New York at my moms, going up late October too visit got a lot of country sky too look at maybe find something interesting, but it will be fruitless to think I' ll find what I' m looking for without infared. For all I know it was a failed missile. Well it' s not aways all about the kill, it's the thrill of the hunt. As Elmer would say I' m looking for a little brown star. they had something interesting in world wide telescope ,I don't think they have free real time telescope viewing on line. Heres another project , security camera rigged to the computer as a telescope.

[TLAM Strike]

Heres another project , security camera rigged to the computer as a telescope. You could try a webcam, they have IR models. But it would not be on a servo like a CCTV camera.

[Oberon]

On a slightly more serious note...

Check this out:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2130977739763182534#

[yubba]

Way to go Dallas ooops I mean Oberon, like our area 51, government property they say isn't there, and these people are suppose to be working for us. This is what we are suppose too do, is question every move our governments make. and thanks about for the idea of web cam

[Dowly]

Everyone knows "Area 51" exists, why they'd have to make an statement to say the obvious? Also, AFAIK, it's existence haven't been denied either.

All that aside, I'd imagine everything "top secret" has been moved from 51 ages ago. :yep:

[Raptor1]

Everyone knows "Area 51" exists, why they'd have to make an statement to say the obvious? Also, AFAIK, it's existence haven't been denied either.

All that aside, I'd imagine everything "top secret" has been moved from 51 ages ago. :yep:

AFAIK Area 51's existence was/is denied (Or at least not publicly acknowledged). It's an open secret, much like the stealth fighter before it was officially unveiled, nothing too unusual.

There might still be "top secret" stuff there, like there has been during the Cold War, who knows.

[Dowly]

There might still be "top secret" stuff there, like there has been during the Cold War, who knows.

Should've maybe be more specific. :O: Right, so something like research on a theoretic level is still going on there, but nothing that involves testing. The place is watched by alien nuts all the time, not much one can test unless it's small enough that you can do it indoors. :hmmm:

[yubba]

Thought you were doing that stuff in your basement, so where you been Dowly, get that model rocket too do back flips.

[Dowly]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GSa2wRtZRI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbsIn5OtEMM

[Task Force]

Aww, and i was hopeing they hit there warp drive.:rotfl2:

[Dowly]

More from Gorilla199.

Nasa released image of planet Nibiru and rotated it 90 degrees in hopes people wouldn't know it is Nibiru. :haha:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Spvg0-i--k4

[antikristuseke]

Oh **** off, that is about all that comes to mind when i listen to him.

[Raptor1]

He has to rotate the picture 90 degrees? Looks like the concept of relative direction is not as clear as I thought...

EDIT: Oh, of course, that's what they want us to believe!

[TLAM Strike]

More from Gorilla199.

Nasa released image of planet Nibiru and rotated it 90 degrees in hopes people wouldn't know it is Nibiru. :haha:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Spvg0-i--k4

I don't have a webcam... but if I did this is what you would have seen after I watched Gorilla199's video...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eD8o8E6psN0

[yubba]

:hmmm::hmmm:http://www.librarising.com/space/images/nibiru.jpghttp://turbo.inquisitr.com/wp-content/2009/12/norway-spiral.jpggee that almost looks the same, or that looks like that.

[antikristuseke]

no, just no.

[yubba]

freaky ain't it.

[antikristuseke]

Not really, no.

[yubba]

Gee where's your scenes of adventure, you going too beleive ever thing the state run media tells you , well I guess, then we are all doomed any way, I thought sub skippers steered their own path.

[antikristuseke]

I'd take their word over someone who is demonstrably bat****. But really what I like to see is evidence, conspiracy theorists commonly se the lack of evidence as something that proves a world wide cover up, which just does not make any sense at all.

[yubba]

well just say moo or baaa and be part of the herd, well there isn't any evidence of a launch outside of them saying they might of, the math doesn't add up they can't figure out which direction it was going clearly the track was east to west. and witnesses in other locations said it changed from a spiral to something else that looked like the moon going by, look at all the footage. here is something for you they are saying that the object is 500 miles away at 96 miles in altitude how big does it have too be before you can see it. when challenger blew I was 20 miles away from the pad, it blew with a thousand times more fuel in the upper atmosphere there wasn't that big of a cloud. Oh bye the way this missle theory is the lamest thing I ever heard.

[Sailor Steve]

Gee where's your scenes of adventure, you going too beleive ever thing the state run media tells you , well I guess, then we are all doomed any way, I thought sub skippers steered their own path.
You don't - you just believe everything everybody else tells you.

the math doesn't add up
Can you by chance demonstrate the math?

[Dowly]

Sorry, Yubba, I believe it's you who go "baa baa". You follow these conspiracy theories that are built only on someone's crazy idea that something might be something else indeed. There is no proof to back any of it, but who cares. :DL

The rest of us don't blindly believe what governments tell us, we just look at the proof and use some logic (you know the thing you seem to be lacking).

[SteamWake]

This thread made me think of the nutjob that 'broadcasts' on 40 meters 7.415 Mhz to be exact.

http://www.wbcq.com/

I listen on occasion to check my recievers calibration :haha: oh and for a few laughs.

I'll bet there related somehow.

[yubba]

Sorry no run with any herd I'm a free thinker just putting the pieces together remember I'm the one that came up with the theory that it must of had been that object, that they called comet neat that flew into our solar system in 2003 the greatest astronumical discovery of man kind and they didn't want too talk too much about, which is fact, and they didn't want too talk about how big it was, in fact that it was so massive it caused a massive solar fare, in fact they didn't want too talk about that either. So where did this object come from and most importantly where did it go, just remember somebody that works for you knows and they didn't bother to tell you, and if you are comfortable with that go back too grazing.

[Raptor1]

Sorry no run with any herd I'm a free thinker just putting the pieces together remember I'm the one that came up with the theory that it must of had been that object, that they called comet neat that flew into our solar system in 2003 the greatest astronumical discovery of man kind and they didn't want too talk too much about, which is fact, and they didn't want too talk about how big it was, in fact that it was so massive it caused a massive solar fare, in fact they didn't want too talk about that either. So where did this object come from and most importantly where did it go, just remember somebody that works for you knows and they didn't bother to tell you, and if you are comfortable with that go back too grazing.

And the evidence for all this is...where?

[Dowly]

Sorry no run with any herd I'm a free thinker
just putting the pieces together

You're taking those pieces from one side only, which doesn't make you a free thinker. Sorry.

remember I'm the one that came up with the theory that it must of had been that object, that they called comet neat that flew into our solar system in 2003 the greatest astronumical discovery of man kind and they didn't want too talk too much about, which is fact, and they didn't want too talk about how big it was, in fact that it was so massive it caused a massive solar fare, in fact they didn't want too talk about that either.Again, you fail to take pieces from both side. See, the sane side says that that it wasn't big at all compared to other comets. We have already given you few links that point this out. All you have given us is that hippie talking about it on youtube.

So where did this object come from and most importantly where did it go, just remember somebody that works for you knows and they didn't bother to tell you, and if you are comfortable with that go back too grazing.Just because you weren't given constant updates 24/7 about where the comet was and which direction it went, it must be a cover-up? :O:


EDIT: And to sink this thread even deeper to the abyss of insanity, Gorilla199 and how Santa Claus and Easter Bunny are evil:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YY_nrYceGo

[yubba]

Both sides ok in 2003 a failed Russian missle caused a mass cornia ejection, in December 2009 another failed russian missle may have caused the norway spiral, if they ever launched said missle and if Russia has another failed missle god only knows what it will cause, and by the way, why does Russia feel the need too test so many ICBMs? Oh yea Dowly they name streets after you , they are called One Way. Moo your freind Yubba

[antikristuseke]

Evidence, either put up or shut ut, it is really that simple.

[Dowly]

Evidence, either put up or shut ut, it is really that simple.

Hell, I would be willing to accept a well put theory at this point. :DL

[yubba]

Hold your horses you need to back track this thread and read all the post that I have written in this thread. All the articles of evidence is in my posts enjoy .

[Dowly]

Hold your horses you need to back track this thread and read all the post that I have written in this thread. All the articles of evidence is in my posts enjoy.

May I suggest you do the same? We have given you plenty of articles debunking pretty much everything you have given us. You just want to believe that there is some world wide cover up going on.

[yubba]

check this out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWis8XOB5HA sorry got 2 search engines workin against each other. Well I debunk most of yours 2. what's a world without a world wide cover up. like you said alot of it can't be proven I don't have a problem with that. All I know is that I gave you a run for your money. MOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[Dowly]

Anyone else wanna continue from here? I'm starting to get tired. :O:

[antikristuseke]

Ehh, if a comet twice the size of jupiter flew through our solar system it would have had some very serious effects on the orbits of planets in our solar system. That did not happen though, now did it?

[Raptor1]

check this out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWis8XOB5HA sorry got 2 search engines workin against each other. Well I debunk most of yours 2. what's a world without a world wide cover up. like you said alot of it can't be proven I don't have a problem with that. All I know is that I gave you a run for your money. MOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Since that video basically repeats 'your' theory without providing any sort of data or proof, we have still yet to see any evidence in support of it or for debunking the standard explanation...

[Oberon]

Anyone else wanna continue from here? I'm starting to get tired. :O:

Naah, we're good, you seem to be having fun. :yeah:

[Oberon]

Ehh, if a comet twice the size of jupiter flew through our solar system it would have had some very serious effects on the orbits of planets in our solar system. That did not happen though, now did it?

Conspiracy Physics, the less sense it makes, the more likely it is true. :yeah:

[TLAM Strike]

Ehh, if a comet twice the size of jupiter flew through our solar system it would have had some very serious effects on the orbits of planets in our solar system. That did not happen though, now did it? Well its mass of the comet that counts. Comet tails are very large and thin, the largest ever recorded was over 1 AU in length- far larger than Jupiter but of much lower mass.

why does Russia feel the need too test so many ICBMs? Because they are developing a missile that will replace all their SLBMs its a huge deal for them. We tested dozens of missiles when developing Polaris.

Oh yea Dowly they name streets after you , they are called One Way. Tread lightly there, I don't much like personal attacks aimed at a friend of mine... :stare:

[antikristuseke]

Well its mass of the comet that counts. Comet tails are very large and thin, the largest ever recorded was over 1 AU in length- far larger than Jupiter but of much lower mass.


I realize it is a matter of mass and density, but the claim was about the size of the asteroid, not the gasses it sheds when hit by the Suns energy.

[Dowly]

Naah, we're good, you seem to be having fun. :yeah:

Me, if I have to watch that same YT video again:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FH_A4eTet80

[TLAM Strike]

I realize it is a matter of mass and density, but the claim was about the size of the asteroid, not the gasses it sheds when hit by the Suns energy.

Well one of those loons in a youtube vid claimed the comet was twice the size of Jupiter when only its tail was larger than Jupiter.

[yubba]

Proof you guys can't handle the proof http://www.exopolitics.org/cometneat.htm this stuff is all over the net of course there is alot of crap in here too, they got SOHO pictures so what do want . I know what I want , I want you prove too me that comet neat 2003 Feb 26 didnt happen this will clear up all this crap. I really like too know where this thing went and what orbit it is in, all the stuff I read on this is very vaig.:hmmm:

[Raptor1]

Well its mass of the comet that counts. Comet tails are very large and thin, the largest ever recorded was over 1 AU in length- far larger than Jupiter but of much lower mass.

But it was supposedly massive enough to...what, cause a solar flare? Surely if it has that sort of influence on the sun (Don't ask me how), it must've effected the nearby planets...

[TLAM Strike]

Proof you guys can't handle the proof http://www.exopolitics.org/cometneat.htm this stuff is all over the net of course there is alot of crap in here too, they got SOHO pictures so what do want . I know what I want , I want you prove too me that comet neat 2003 Feb 26 didnt happen this will clear up all this crap. I really like too know where this thing went and what orbit it is in, all the stuff I read on this is very vaig.:hmmm:

Well it receded back towards aphelion like the 500 or so other sun grazing comets SOHO has imaged. :03:

[yubba]

why big flare if it didn't happenhttp://www.exopolitics.org/Neatcomp1m.jpg

[Dowly]

I know what I want , I want you prove too me that comet neat 2003 Feb 26 didnt happen this will clear up all this crap.The timestamps on those images say 17th to 19th of February 2003. Guess I won. :88)

EDIT: why big flare if it didn't happen

Sun tends to do that you know. :DL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srXoEzurl_Q

[antikristuseke]

Who the hell is claiming that the comet did not pass the Sun?

Edit:
About the erruption, astronomers say it is just a coincidence, a coronal mass ejection coincided with the comets pass, which hit the comet and its tail ionizing some of the gas. The comet then headed along its way. No mystery, no Planet x, no coverup, no conspiracy.

[yubba]

Not so fast why nasa alter video if nothing happened in 2003 , I guess I win and MOOOOOOOOOOOO

[antikristuseke]

And your evidence for the image being altered is?
Bernhard Fleck, a SOHO project scientist, said it is common for delays to occur in posting images to the SOHO Web site, primarily because the public release of the large number of photos is done without funding and on a mostly voluntary basis. He said a heavy snowstorm in the Washington, D.C. area on the days of NEAT's closest approach to the Sun prevented most scientists from getting to the office and processing the images.
sauce: http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/comet_conspiracy_030228.html

[yubba]

If no 2003 comet neat , no mass solar flare, no altered nasa video, no southpole telescope, no failed russian missle, no Norway Spiral, and we wouldn't be having this conversation.

[antikristuseke]

Comet is real
solar flare was real
you have no shown evidence for the video being altered

[Raptor1]

If no 2003 comet neat , no mass solar flare, no altered nasa video, no southpole telescope, no failed russian missle, no Norway Spiral, and we wouldn't be having this conversation.

Let's see:

There was the comet which you refer to, nobody disputed its existence.

There was a coronal mass ejection, nobody disputed that either.

There is only speculation of an altered NASA video, no real evidence, though it's pretty hard to prove either way.

There is, actually, a South Pole Telescope (I was not aware it was such a big deal, did I miss anything?).

There was a failed Russian missile, that sort of stuff happens.

There was, apparently, a Norwegian spiral anomaly, as they call it.

-

None of that stuff is disputed (Except the altered video), only the claims of their nature and effect. Fair enough?

[Dowly]

(I was not aware it was such a big deal, did I miss anything?)

Nothing really, just the "fact" that it's sole purpose is to track Planet X/Nibiru. :haha: (No, seriously, that's what the nutjobs say)

[Raptor1]

Nothing really, just the "fact" that it's sole purpose is to track Planet X/Nibiru. :haha: (No, seriously, that's what the nutjobs say)

Well, isn't that a waste of a perfectly good radio telescope...

[Tribesman]

just the "fact" that it's sole purpose is to track Planet X/Nibiru
Be quiet Dowly, thats a secret.
Did you know that penguins are really reptilians and it is they who guard the secret telescope.
That is why they cannot fly like birds should be able to.

[antikristuseke]

Birds are more closely related to reptiles than you might think. But nevermind that, I suppose I am supposed to claim victory over tribesman now and to make an animal noise.

[Tribesman]

Birds are more closely related to reptiles than you might think
But these are reptilians not reptiles, they just stuck a feather suit on because of the cold.
The proof that they are part of the secret plot is that the big ones which guard the special unknown telescope are emperor penguins as they are from the new world order which is the empire of the illuminati

[antikristuseke]

But you are being mislead by the worldwide communist controlled media, those penguins are not reptilians in disguise at all, they are actually evil otters who developed a symbiotic relationship with penguin shaped sharks.

[Castout]

I don't know about a global conspiracy but I do know this world is a world of conspiracies.

I'm a victim of that practice in this part of the world.

We need to remind ourselves that our world is a world of politics and politics is very subjective and personal. It's about people or persona. Conspiracy about something in this world of politics is thus a very understandable conclusion and perhaps very probable even often or the norm. No you can't separate politics from any part of the life...politics is in everything. In fact there's a strong tendency to put the religious body under it right now an example of which is linking green living to spirituality.

Most of you must remember what happened to Dr. Kelly. Without conspiracy the British police would have made the announcement that he was killed or that it was a homicide. But they did not in fact. Now there has been report to indicate that it was indeed a state sanctioned homicide but much information has been classified to protect the people behind the assassination.

What is a state? The ruling elites? then who are the ruling elites? Leaders? And Leaders are just mere men and men are very subjective being.

Conspiracies are not only probable they are perhaps even common. And if you think politics only encompasses the elites you're very wrong because down to the lowest segment of society submit themselves to politics or rulers. Doctors, psychiatry, down to drivers even family members.

The people who were behind attempt to murder me and who caused my so much psychological abuse and the cause of my ruined health and future are still free unashamed and even proud. Couple years ago the same people didn't even try to cover anything they just went for the kill(the case of David Widjaja). Their media went into full gear blaming the victim instead. Luckily the family eventually fought back after their shock period was over. Thanks to this the Indonesians learned the true character of the corrupt regime in Singapore and its kangaroo court and their lying police which is nothing but an accomplice to murders thanks to the testimonies of the Indonesian forensics experts with their forensics evidences and conclusions. The man they last killed wasn't an activist and posed no security threat to anyone and was largely a nobody and not to mention coming from the minority race in Indonesia. Then again this is what cowards do killing the helpless and the weak and the innocent . . . .
At least they took care when they tried to kill me..because when I speak about them sending me an evil spirit I would lose a portion of people who would believe me. Then again when I speak about them using psychic or paranormal with skills reflecting that of remote viewing which enabled them to tap into the mind and hearts and see through the eyes of their prey ....another big portion of people would stop listening perhaps . . . .but the truth is a force to be reckoned with...so I'll keep informing other people to avoid this bloody regime.

But I'm not writing this to justify reptilian men or things like that. To believe everything that you read and told would be just plain stupidity. But I've experienced and known some things that just over a decade ago I didn't think exist or ever existed. So who am I to judge what's possible or not? At best I'd say I don't know.

[TLAM Strike]

Nothing really, just the "fact" that it's sole purpose is to track Planet X/Nibiru. :haha: (No, seriously, that's what the nutjobs say)


Its real purpose is so the United States Space Force can spy on the Nommos in the Sirius star system... :shifty:

...But you didn't hear it from me... :stare:

[August]

This thread makes me want to join the Freemasons. :yep:

[Sailor Steve]

I love the constant refrain of "NASA altered the video". NASA is not a person, it is an organization. It takes people to do anything, and it takes people to make a conspiracy, but it only takes one to expose it. People keep claiming "evidence" where there is none, but they never seem to come up with any actual proof. And no, I can't prove it's not, just as I can't prove that there is no God.

But I don't need to. If you have something that actually proves any of this, show it. If not, fine, you still get to believe it, but don't keep telling everyone else they have to believe it, or that they're idiots if they don't.

The only major conspiracy I've seen proven was that John Wilkes Booth didn't act alone. There was a conspiracy to kill Lincoln, and we know this because they caught and hanged four of them. :o

[August]

They managed to convince Neil Armstrong!

http://www.theonion.com/articles/conspiracy-theorist-convinces-neil-armstrong-moon,2796/

[Sailor Steve]

Yeah, but I saw Armstrong on television, and he didn't even mention the moon as being exciting. "The three most exciting things you can do", he said, "Are flying a jet fighter, riding a fast motorcycle, and riding a good rollercoaster."

I'm serious. It was a special about the history of rollercoasters, back in the eighties.

Oh, and I like onions.

[Oberon]

Penguins!

[frau kaleun]

Penguins!

http://prodigy69.co.uk/pics/animashes/evilPenguin.jpeg

[Dowly]

:o:-?:wah:

[Tribesman]

Penguins!

Indeed, evil penguins from the secret planet Ohmygoddon which looks like a platypus when viewed from the super secret telescope built by Lichtenstein on the dark side of the moon, however NASCAR have altered the image so it looks like a gherkin which they think appears less threatening but in reality it gives away their secret to those who don't follow the herd as gherkins are green just like reptilian penguins once they are well and truly plucked.

[frau kaleun]

http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh120/mega_pickle6/dancing_pickle.gifhttp://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh120/mega_pickle6/dancing_pickle.gifhttp://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh120/mega_pickle6/dancing_pickle.gif http://www.sherv.net/cm/emo/dancing/penguin.gifhttp://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh120/mega_pickle6/dancing_pickle.gifhttp://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh120/mega_pickle6/dancing_pickle.gifhttp://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh120/mega_pickle6/dancing_pickle.gif

[Tribesman]

See, Happy Feet was a prime example of freemason propoganda made to make penguins look less threatening.

[Sailor Steve]

Tribesman, thanks for clearing that up! I WANT TO BELIEVE! :rock:

[TLAM Strike]

I WANT TO BELIEVE! :rock:

http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/5653/9a4b16f6ff0c4527a8ac9dc.jpg

[Diopos]

The penguins are watching you ...
Link (http://img97.imageshack.us/i/pingwinyzmadagaskaru.jpg/)

:yep:

.

[frau kaleun]

http://themightyvikings.com/img/otherart/ninja%20penguin.png

OMG how did they KNOW?

[frau kaleun]

I WANT TO BELIEVE! :rock:

http://roflrazzi.files.wordpress.com/2010/10/191987c5-1568-471d-9c2b-e7e8da6eb5dc.jpg

[yubba]

Actually I wanted to join the Chamber of Commerce.

[Morts]

I'm on a horse :know:

[August]

Penguins can be just as vicious to each other as shown in this exclusive footage:

http://dernbach.us/family/Images/z_gif_penguin.gif

[frau kaleun]

I could watch that all day. :rotfl2:

[TarJak]

http://images.cheezburger.com/completestore/2009/8/26/128957627668079438.jpg

http://l.yimg.com/eb/ymv/us/img/hv/photo/movie_pix/warner_brothers/batman_returns/danny_devito/batmanreturnsdvd2.jpg

[frau kaleun]

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q232/convex8/Gangsta1.jpg

[August]

http://www.n3epa.org/images/PolarBear/PBSPE/PB-Penguin.jpg

[August]

http://demotivatorsblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/picdump-10-08-06-069.jpg

[Penguin]

I appreciate these pics! :salute:

[Raptor1]

It's him! The evil Freemason alien telescope reptilian!

Quick, get him!

[Dowly]

As Halloween is getting nearer, I believe it's good time to post G199's video about how Halloween is also satanic. :woot:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1IVBI13uR4

[HunterICX]

As Halloween is getting nearer, I believe it's good time to post G199's video about how Halloween is also satanic. :woot:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1IVBI13uR4

Holy Flapping Batwings on a Baboons butthole, the BS meter is going off the charts! :o
:-? I just get the urge to punch the living crap out of him.

HunterICX

[Dowly]

:-? I just get the urge to punch the living crap out of him.

HunterICX

Lol, reminds me of the time he told he was attacked by some teenagers throwing home made shrurikens (or knives, can't remember) at passers by from a rooftop. Of course, some videos later he came back to the conclusion that the were freemasons, because the "exact spot" he got attacked at had a speed bump with arrows (=pyramid shapes). :har:

Here's an video response from "Noelplum99" to the above events. :DL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8spkW5v8z8

[Dowly]

BREAKING NEWS!!! Zeus was a little grey man and Obama is in league with them! (if you ask Gorilla199 atleast. :har:)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOZwLgWENgw

[Dowly]

Sorry, but I just have to do this.

Hitler was an pagan and cultist! (Yes, Gorilla199 again, and he figured it all by himself! Amazin guy!)

http://youtu.be/R7PqdWUUXGo

[MH]

Next project breaking of this mysterious sign

[Dowly]

He could probably come up with a satanic sign from that too. :haha:

I'm sure I've posted this here already, but it deserves a re-post:
Noelplum99's 2 questions to Gorilla199
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8spkW5v8z8

[frau kaleun]

Sorry, but I just have to do this.

Hitler was an pagan and cultist!


But was he a nutjob? Because so far history has been positively mute on this point. :hmmm: :O:

[kiwi_2005]

I watched the movie The Fourth Kind over the weekend. What a mess what a complete load of SH*T! :har: Milla Jovovich what was she thinking when she took on this role, just stick to what your good at - killing zombies.

I read off the net that soon after the movie was released they put up a fake website of the persons involved in the movie to fool believers that these people really did exist until a journalist discovered the fakery and the site was closed down.

[Sailor Steve]

I guess General Topics is exempt from the forum rules. I guess you *ssh*l*s win.

I won't be around any more.

[joea]

Errr what? :timeout:

[Castout]

But was he a nutjob? Because so far history has been positively mute on this point. :hmmm: :O:

Nutjob? Only because he was a cultist :DL

I guess General Topics is exempt from the forum rules. I guess you *ssh*l*s win.

I won't be around any more.


I'll join you :hmmm:

[Pisces]

It's not a conspiracy unless it involves the face on mars.

BTW, how did penguins got involved in this discussion? Because of that radiotelescope on the south pole? Or did he went ape about Linux logos? (food for another episode perhaps ;) )

[Takeda Shingen]

I won't be around any more.

That would make me very sad.

Steve has a point. Let's try to keep the images within the forum rules. If you are not sure what those are, or have forgotten them, check out the FAQ & Rules link at the top of the board.

[Catfish]

Hello,
back to the original post, this explains all ... (Niburu, Devil, Freemasons, UFOs.. ) and even Zeppelins:
it's Meteorblitzkrieg.
If you take out the "sk" of ironsky it makes even more sense :D

http://www.ironsky.net/

:rotfl2:

[Onkel Neal]

I guess General Topics is exempt from the forum rules. I guess you *ssh*l*s win.

I won't be around any more.


Sorry, Steve, I guess I'm getting lazy. :shifty:

[Aramike]

That would make me very sad.

Steve has a point. Let's try to keep the images within the forum rules. If you are not sure what those are, or have forgotten them, check out the FAQ & Rules link at the top of the board.Maybe the rules could use a slight update??? Obviously there are some fairly benign (and funny) usage of words that us adults shouldn't really be concerned with.

I'm not suggesting "F-bombs" or anything, but I do think that if it's okay for a PG-13 movie we shouldn't really bother getting worked up over it.

[Bakkels]

:hmmm: I can't see what's offensive in those last couple of posts. But I also can't see why this zombie thread made it's way up here again in the first place. So it could be me, maybe I overlooked the particular post.
This is not to spark a debate or anything, I'd just like to know what post was deemed offensive. So I know where the boundaries lie so to speak.

[Schroeder]

Spam reported.

[Dowly]

I would advice for that post to be heavily edited at least to remove the physical address.

[Tango589]

Who dragged this thread up from the pit?

[Oberon]

Who dragged this thread up from the pit?

http://img.pandawhale.com/51914-Aliens-guy-owvj.jpeg

[Rhodes]

http://gatherer.wizards.com/Handlers/Image.ashx?multiverseid=247324&type=card
Someone is playing cards...

[Oberon]

Someone is playing cards...

Not got enough black land to cast that

[Rhodes]

Not got enough black land to cast that

I did a cycling move and got that card for free!:O: [/QUOTE]

[Sailor Steve]

Who dragged this thread up from the pit?
Some spammer. Sorry I forgot to mention he's gone now. :sunny:

[Tango589]

Some spanner. Sorry I forgot to mention he's gone now. :sunny:
fixed.:up:

[Wolferz]

Who dragged this thread up from the pit?

Didn't you wash this out of The Bilge?

[Tango589]

Didn't you wash this out of The Bilge?
I wondered what that particularly nasty smelling lump of horrible gunk was,I thought it was left over from dinner!

[Wolferz]

I wondered what that particularly nasty smelling lump of horrible gunk was,I thought it was left over from dinner!
It was! I'm very thankful I didn't drop that deuce.:haha:

[Eichhörnchen]

http://i.imgur.com/ZKmK81A.jpg?1

How about a Zombie thread, then? I think it's got legs... even if they do drop off sometimes...

[Sailor Steve]

Been there, done that. You noobies are so naïve. :O:
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=169859&highlight=zombies

[Eichhörnchen]

I wish you hadn't revived this particular corpse, Steve. Now I've got to read 71 pages of it, it's so good...:D

[mapuc]

Just for your information

Niburu has been postponed...until an another 12-21-12-like event occur

The Devil take place in every President that have or are going to sitt in the White House, before today and in the future, according to all these conspiracy believers

Markus

[Sailor Steve]

I wish you hadn't revived this particular corpse, Steve. Now I've got to read 71 pages of it, it's so good...:D
We aim to please. :sunny:

[mapuc]

Earlier today I saw an episode about people meeting UFO's. In one of these dramatization of a case, an old thought came back

What is it they have seen ? I will not call a person a lier=making up a story. Maybe these person have a huge imagination, who knows.

Maybe their brain "fill in" the missing pieces and due to a persons personal beliefs the brain "fill in" the pieces that make sense in his or her world.

I guess I will never get to know-what it is they have seen.

Markus

[Schroeder]

We have a thread for stuff like that already:03::http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=174328&highlight=freemasons

[mapuc]

We have a thread for stuff like that already:03::http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=174328&highlight=freemasons

Ha now you mention it, I remember have read some post in it and then forgot al about it.

Hope some Moderator will merge this into the other thread.

Thanks for telling me.

Markus

[Wolferz]

That's easy, Mapuc..

They have seen the light from Venus reflecting off some swamp gas.:hmmm::doh::O:

[Oberon]

mapuc...have you had a visit lately or something? I'm noticing a trend in your threads.

https://33.media.tumblr.com/ac0219734cfc2fd5ea87b4a76dee3be1/tumblr_mvua9wJOvw1s4ip2qo1_400.gif

[Torplexed]

mapuc...have you had a visit lately or something? I'm noticing a trend in your threads.


Yeah. You're not building a replica of the Devil's Tower in your living room by any chance?

http://static.rogerebert.com/redactor_assets/pictures/scanners/making-contact-spielbergs-close-encounters-and-et/cemodel3-thumb-510x216-29498.jpg

[mapuc]

No visit(do not believe in UFO's), no drinking or smoking funny stuff.

I just love science about space and conspiracy from and around space.

Markus

[Jimbuna]

Threads merged.

[mapuc]

Threads merged.

Thank you

Guess it's not the right place to ask this question-Guess I have to ask a psychologist or a psychiatrist specializing in this field.

I'm 110 % sure it is not a UFO they have seen.

Markus

[Buddahaid]

Well it is a UFO until identified. UFO does not equal flying saucer and aliens.

[mapuc]

Well it is a UFO until identified. UFO does not equal flying saucer and aliens.


True-but in these cases the UFO is from another planet-and I don't believe in UFO from another planets.

As some expert said in one of these programs. If some one saw the B2 before it was known or the F117 stealth fighter-they may have thought it was a alien UFO.

If it had been me-I would have thought/maybe speaking quietly to myself-What kind of aircraft is that-It is a UFO-until I know what it is and it is man made.

Markus

[mapuc]

Do you think they will hit the jackpot ?

http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2015-07/20/breakthrough-listen-project

The 10 year project will use open data and software, and work with teams at the Robert C. Byrd Green Bank Telescope in West Virginia, United States, and the Parkes Telescope in Australia to try to find signals that might be being broadcast by civilisations across the galaxy, whether from planets or machine-based AI.

Markus

[Oberon]

Do you think they will hit the jackpot ?

http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2015-07/20/breakthrough-listen-project



Markus

There's a whole lot of sky out there, and light, whilst being mind-bogglingly fast, has still got a lot of way to go.

Heck, we might discover a civilization, but by the time we actually get a probe to them they might have nuked themselves into oblivion. :dead:

Equally, it would probably be better, if we do find something...just to watch it rather than try to call it over...


Anyway, since we're in this area, here's one for mapuc:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-suffolk-33447592

:ping:

[Torplexed]

Anyway, since we're in this area, here's one for mapuc:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-suffolk-33447592

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Ahh. Rendlesham. The British Roswell. They've cover-upped the truth all these years, but now it's coming out. This time is really it. :O:

UFO researcher John Hanson said he found Col Halt to be a reliable witness and there had been a "concerted effort to hide the truth".Ever noticed how alien craft are covert enough to avoid detection by means which would provide conclusive evidence of their existence, yet clumsy enough to be seen and photographed from a distance and occasionally picked up on radar? I guess we can speculate on the supposed motives of hypothetical aliens, but it's easier to speculate on the supposed motives of the UFO authors. Closure either way on the UFO question spells the end of the authors' gravy train. Funny isn't it, how the aliens always seem to behave in the manner that perpetuates the debate for years and thus best serves the long term goals of the guy pushing UFO book and videos? :D

[u crank]

Ever noticed how alien craft are covert enough to avoid detection by means which would provide conclusive evidence of their existence, yet clumsy enough to be seen and photographed from a distance and occasionally picked up on radar? I guess we can speculate on the supposed motives of hypothetical aliens, but it's easier to speculate on the supposed motives of the UFO authors. Closure either way on the UFO question spells the end of the authors' gravy train. Funny isn't it, how the aliens always seem to behave in the manner that perpetuates the debate for years and thus best serves the long term goals of the guy pushing UFO book and videos? :D

Nonsense. That kind of thinking is way to logical and should be suppressed.:O: