Heavy Drinkers Outlive Non-Drinkers

[Aramike]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/time/08599201433200;_ylt=Al0PpnCFG4Zuc01fUT4VtoRv24cA;_ ylu=X3oDMTM1dHBvZTVlBGFzc2V0A3RpbWUvMjAxMDA4MzAvMD g1OTkyMDE0MzMyMDAEY2NvZGUDbW9zdHBvcHVsYXIEY3BvcwMx BHBvcwMxBHNlYwN5bl90b3Bfc3RvcmllcwRzbGsDaGVhdnlkcm lua2Vy

Pretty interesting stuff, here. I wouldn't consider myself a heavy drinker, but now and then I like to hit the sauce - great for relaxation and social livelyhood and all that.

Now to find that maybe I'm not drinking enough???

PS: I guess Dowly's gonna live forver. :D

[Takeda Shingen]

PS: I guess Dowly's gonna live forver. :D

I got halfway through the article and was going to post that.

[Tchocky]

hic

[Bilge_Rat]

3 drinks a day every day is moderate? :o

no need to feel guilty then! :up:

[Gorduz]

After finishing my Physics degree I took a year studing pedagogics, and read several papers using regression analysis to find correlation between sociological parameters like grades and family income. After seeing what you can come up with I have lost my faith in regression analysis as a scientific tool unless its used in conjuction with some repeated experiment.

This is a classical example, note in specific the line:

"But even after controlling for nearly all imaginable variables - socioeconomic status, level of physical activity, number of close friends, quality of social support and so on"

Since you only can account for almost all variables but not all I do have trouble believing it. The important part is the causal explanation offered. Is it sound?

In this case it actually might be a sound explenation:

One important reason is that alcohol lubricates so many social interactions, and social interactions are vital for maintaining mental and physical health. As I pointed out last year (http://us.rd.yahoo.com/dailynews/time/hl_time/storytext/08599201433200/37388588/SIG=120qc49jb/*http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1928187,00.html), nondrinkers show greater signs of depression than those who allow themselves to join the party.

But actually most people I know who abstains are more social than my average friend, so I don't think this will apply for them anyway

[Aramike]

hicWell done. :O:

[Aramike]

After finishing my Physics degree I took a year studing pedagogics, and read several papers using regression analysis to find correlation between sociological parameters like grades and family income. After seeing what you can come up with I have lost my faith in regression analysis as a scientific tool unless its used in conjuction with some repeated experiment.

This is a classical example, note in specific the line:

"But even after controlling for nearly all imaginable variables - socioeconomic status, level of physical activity, number of close friends, quality of social support and so on"

Since you only can account for almost all variables but not all I do have trouble believing it. The important part is the causal explanation offered. Is it sound?

In this case it actually might be a sound explenation:

One important reason is that alcohol lubricates so many social interactions, and social interactions are vital for maintaining mental and physical health. As I pointed out last year (http://us.rd.yahoo.com/dailynews/time/hl_time/storytext/08599201433200/37388588/SIG=120qc49jb/*http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1928187,00.html), nondrinkers show greater signs of depression than those who allow themselves to join the party.

But actually most people I know who abstains are more social than my average friend, so I don't think this will apply for them anywayBuzzkill.

Just kidding.

In all seriousness, that was the point that stuck out most to me as well.

[DarkFish]

Heavy Drinkers Outlive Non-DrinkersOh, in that case I'm gonna be okay for the next 100 years:D

[frau kaleun]

Not to change the subject, guys, but I need your thoughts and prayers ASAP. I'm having a major health emergency.





I just checked the fridge and there's only one beer left.

[Webster]

Not to change the subject, guys, but I need your thoughts and prayers ASAP. I'm having a major health emergency.





I just checked the fridge and there's only one beer left.

http://www.messengerfreak.com/emoticons/funny/HomerInsane.gif

stay calm and call 911 right away :salute:


we will pray for you http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-basic/drinks.gif


things always last longer when they are pickled so this article makes sense

[frau kaleun]

I think it will be enough to keep me alive until I can get to the store tomorrow.

But payday's not until Wednesday, and I don't think my health plan is gonna cover this as a routine preventive expense.

Curse you, greedy bean counters! :stare:

[yubba]

Gee sure picked a bad time too quit drinkin, spent many a good year to get rid of this tavern tumor from my waist.

[UnderseaLcpl]

I've been saying this for years but my doctor doesn't believe me. She'd rather say things like "James, you can't drink that much without incurring serious negative consequences" and other assorted medical technobabble.

[Takeda Shingen]

Hr. Hibbert: Homer, you've ingested a dangerous amount of alcohol.

Homer (sluring): The only dangerous amount of alcohol is none.

[Aramike]

Hr. Hibbert: Homer, you've ingested a dangerous amount of alcohol.

Homer (sluring): The only dangerous amount of alcohol is none.Homer: Alcohol - the cause of and solution to all of life's problems!

[gimpy117]

well than good thing I go to Western Michigan University! Im on pace to live forever!

[Aramike]

well than good thing I go to Western Michigan University! Im on pace to live forever!You don't say.... :har:

:salute:

Damn, I miss college.

[DarkFish]

well than good thing I go to Western Michigan University! Im on pace to live forever!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_life_expectancy
Netherlands: 79.8 yrs
USA: 78.2

I have hereby proven Dutchmen are heavier drinkers than US citizens:salute:



No really, if you want to see heavy drinking you should come over to our faculty's pub: €10 for 30 beers:D

[Aramike]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_life_expectancy
Netherlands: 79.8 yrs
USA: 78.2

I have hereby proven Dutchmen are heavier drinkers than US citizens:salute:
Time to get to work on that... :yep:

[STEED]

What a load of tosh!

Give it six months and they say its bad for you but eating chocolate coated in butter and lots of salt is good for you. That is to say, for a while then drinking like a fish is good for you again. :rotfl2:

[gimpy117]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_life_expectancy
Netherlands: 79.8 yrs
USA: 78.2

I have hereby proven Dutchmen are heavier drinkers than US citizens:salute:



No really, if you want to see heavy drinking you should come over to our faculty's pub: €10 for 30 beers:D

Don't make me post a video of that octo kegger At WMU last St. patty's day! :up:

[DarkFish]

Don't make me post a video of that octo kegger At WMU last St. patty's day! :up:So, how fast does he drink? How fast do you drink?

[gimpy117]

So, how fast does he drink? How fast do you drink?

I saw a buddy of mine do a 24. oz. in less than 7 seconds.

[DarkFish]

I saw a buddy of mine do a 24. oz. in less than 7 seconds.argh! you US weirdo's with your crazy measuring systems!
Hmm.. according to google, 24 oz is about 70 cl, wich would make about 3 glasses.

At our study corporation, the current record for 1 meter (13 glasses=286cl=97oz.) with 4 persons (so that's the time for 4 glasses (about 88cl/30oz) a person) is 10.3 seconds. This includes time for taking and putting back those 4 glasses. We do have single glasses of 50cl/17oz that we occasionally down, but we usually do not measure the time for that as all our records are on the meter.

Current record for 1m for a single person stands at 2.49 minutes.


Personally I can drink a glass in about 1.5 seconds. But as you should know this time increases exponentially with the amount of beer you drink:O:

[Lord_magerius]

Don't forget though Darkfish, if this is true, you're pretty much immortal. :O:

[antikristuseke]

I saw a buddy of mine do a 24. oz. in less than 7 seconds.

That is fairly pathetic to be honest. I can do a pint in under 5

[Tribesman]

I can do a pint in under 5
Thats the time for a yard of ale isn't it

[Lord_magerius]

Pint's are easy, can knock a pint back in about 2 seconds, a yard requires skill as you have to drink it all and not let it spill all over your face.

I'll see if I can get the cam working to show how necking a pint is done :O:

[antikristuseke]

I have seen it, a friend of mine can do the same.

[DarkFish]

ehrm, does anyone here speak metric system?:-?

[frau kaleun]

ehrm, does anyone here speak metric system?:-?

No. Now away with you and your evil Euro-socialist weights and measures! :O:

[DarkFish]

No. Now away with you and your evil Euro-socialist weights and measures! :O:You're mean!:wah:

Time to drink my sorrow away:()1:
http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/funny-pictures-passed-out-alcoholic-cat-couch-fluffy.jpg

[frau kaleun]

http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/funny-pictures-cat-has-a-message-to-you-from-your-liver.jpg

[antikristuseke]

You're mean!:wah:

Time to drink my sorrow away:()1:


there there, this should cheer you up
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTxINWXNrPA

[frau kaleun]

In a somewhat related story: Deep Fried Beer (http://gawker.com/5626971/the-future-of-american-food-deep+fried-beer)!

Best comment so far: "I'm holding out for beer-battered beer."

[The Third Man]

Heavy Drinkers Outlive Non-Drinkers

and are more easily manipulated. That part isn't reported of course.

[Aramike]

In a somewhat related story: Deep Fried Beer (http://gawker.com/5626971/the-future-of-american-food-deep+fried-beer)!

Best comment so far: "I'm holding out for beer-battered beer.":rotfl2:

[Aramike]

Maybe we need to start an Annual Subsim Drinkathon. We'll have several events - the Short Sip competition, the Long Sip, the 6-Pack Sprint, the 12-Pack Marathon...

[frau kaleun]

:rotfl2:

I like the part about how eating the stuff is just like taking a bite of pretzel and a sip of beer, only without having to suffer through the delay and effort of raising a glass to your mouth. Because that's such a PITA, amirite?

[TarJak]

Maybe we need to start an Annual Subsim Drinkathon. We'll have several events - the Short Sip competition, the Long Sip, the 6-Pack Sprint, the 12-Pack Marathon...
Damn! I'll have to build another house:

http://www.321energy.com/editorials/moriarty/0225.jpg

[Aramike]

Damn! I'll have to build another house:

http://www.321energy.com/editorials/moriarty/0225.jpg:haha: Nice insulation.