Obama halts prosecution of alleged USS Cole bomber

[Factor]

Are you f##king kidding me! :damn:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/08/26/AR2010082606353_pf.html

[Skybird]

Sounds like another of these precious, well-meaning, symbolic signals by which to reach out to the Islamic world: "Look, we do not wish to upset you."

[The Third Man]

Are you f##king kidding me! :damn:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/08/26/AR2010082606353_pf.html

I'm willing to look at this and shake my head. It is just one other thing eroding his presidency. If he cared it would not be the statement from his administration. Because who is he gaining politically? No one. The Gibbs' anointed professional left, epitimised by David Letterman. Who recently said he'd have plenty of time for vacation after his term is up. Independents are done with anything Democrat, Republicans, may be OK with it, but conservatives are not.

So why does he, and his administration openly go against the desires of the people?

[Platapus]

But it appears that only the civilian trial has been suspended, the military trial will still go on.

So what's the big deal?

[GoldenRivet]

What purpose would the head of the executive branch of government have with intervening with the affairs of the judicial branch? (aside from a full pardon, he should have no reasons)

thats the question you must ask yourself Platapus

What forces are at work which influence Obama to get involved here?

[The Third Man]

What purpose would the head of the executive branch of government have with intervening with the affairs of the judicial branch?

thats the question you must ask yourself Platapus

What forces are at work which influence Obama to get involved here?

The justice department is part of the executive branch. Like the EPA, DOE, NEA, etc.

[GoldenRivet]

You misunderstand my point.

The president has the right to grant pardons... fine.

but why would he have any interest in halting a case against a terrorist... that is the question.

[razark]

The justice department is part of the executive branch. Like the EPA, DOE, NEA, etc.
But the Judicial Branch is not.

[GoldenRivet]

But the Judicial Branch is not.

correct - this was more what i was referring to.

[Factor]

But it appears that only the civilian trial has been suspended, the military trial will still go on.

So what's the big deal?



Because this happened 10 years ago. Abd al-Rahim should have had justice (death) carried out on him earlier than now. (if guilty:doh:) Give the famlies some closure since they were murdered in the name of an extremist religion.

[The Third Man]

Now I'm way confused as to what happened in this thread.

This is how I understand it.

The Judiciary is suposed to be an entity utno itself and part of the seperation of powers established in the US Constitution. The Justice Department, is part of the Executive Branch also part of the US Constitution.

The Justice Department, as part of its duties, are to submit criminal and civil, cases to the Judiciary for prosecution. It is upto the Judiciary to find wether or not to accept such submitted cases.

But the Justice Department is the law enforcement arm of the US government. Directed by the President.

So not to prosecute the individual is clearly a political decision by the Justice Department.

[GoldenRivet]

So not to prosecute the individual is clearly a political decision by the Justice Department.

ask yourself "Why".

[The Third Man]

ask yourself "Why".

The apology tour?

[Platapus]

No where does it say that this was Obama's decision. The article only referred to the Obama Administration which would include the department of justice.

Probably the Attorney General decided that with the history of torture in this case, it would be difficult to get a conviction in a civilian court and decided to throw this into the military tribunal system. Probably a good decision as this is more a military matter anyway.

[The Third Man]

No where does it say that this was Obama's decision. The article only referred to the Obama Administration which would include the department of justice.

Probably the Attorney General decided that with the history of torture in this case, it would be difficult to get a conviction in a civilian court and decided to throw this into the military tribunal system. Probably a good decision as this is more a military matter anyway.

Please. R you saying Obama isn't in charge of the Obama administration?

Place them on trial. if you are correct no harm. We can send them to Germany.

[Platapus]

Please. R you saying Obama isn't in charge of the Obama administration?



The president does not oversee ever single decision the entire executive branch makes. :nope:

I think we should wait until more information than what was contained in the Washington Post article is released.

Unless the purpose of this thread is just another "anything Obama does is wrong" thread. In that case I will just leave you guys alone.

[The Third Man]

The president does not oversee ever single decision the entire executive branch makes. :nope:


Obama is responsible. If he doesn't oversee it by policy or direct action it is his peril.

Just like the CEO of BP was responsible. Hello.

[GoldenRivet]

So far i have supported (i think) three decisions Obama has made.

I have not supported everything else the man has done.

so no this is not meant (at least from me) to be an "everything obama does is wrong" thread.

However, he is not a president who is in-line with the ideals of middle America... surely anyone with a functioning brain can see this.

[Tribesman]

So it appears the legal system is having problems still because of the way the government abused the legal system from the outset.

[The Third Man]

So far i have supported (i think) three decisions Obama has made.

I have not supported everything else the man has done.

so no this is not meant (at least from me) to be an "everything obama does is wrong" thread.

However, he is not a president who is in-line with the ideals of middle America... surely anyone with a functioning brain can see this.

Nor is he a president in line with the constitution. Which explains the 'astro-turf' which is the tea party and like Dave Letterman says is his only term.

[Tribesman]

Nor is he a president in line with the constitution.
Is someone having a birther moment again?

[AVGWarhawk]

Is someone having a birther moment again?

Huh? :06:

[The Third Man]

Let's not forget this is a president who said 'the police acted stupidly' before he knew any or all the facts. His reaction always goes to the non statesman, non-US Executive, and more neighborhood activist line of thinking. But the activist promoting himself not you!

[Bubblehead1980]

:damn::damn::damn: