Pa. High School Under Fire Over Quote FromHitler in Yearbook

[Gerald]

A Pennsylvania high school is under fire after a quote from Adolf Hitler appeared in its 2010 student yearbook, The Express-Times reported Thursday.

Easton Area High School in Easton, Pa., reportedly unveiled its new student yearbook this month featuring a quote from the Nazi dictator that appeared prominently alongside the words of other famous leaders and authors.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/08/26/pa-high-school-quote-hitler-yearbook/?test=latestnews?test=latestnews

[Takeda Shingen]

Wow. That's moronic. Still, it is strange that this news is in my neck of the woods and this is the first I have heard of it.

[Gerald]

Wow. That's moronic. Still, it is strange that this news is in my neck of the woods and this is the first I have heard of it. Sounds a bit too twisted :hmmm:

[CCIP]

Something tells me that one reason this could have happened is that the kids didn't know who Hitler actually was. And in that case, I sure do fear for the education system :doh:

[Sledgehammer427]

wow.

I'm curious how that managed to get in the yearbook. I worked on our schools yearbook my senior year, everything we wrote was quadruple checked.

Somebody wasn't paying much attention.
Or didn't take their history course...I don't think Hitler is a good role model for success...unless your definition of success is being in a ditch on fire.

[Castout]

"And in the last analysis, success is what matters," -Adolf Hitler, the fool that attacked everybody just because he thought he could.

I don't believe it was a mistake ever.

The student or whoever wrote that identify with the quote which Hitler had spoken.

It's as simple as that.

It is disturbing because when a person much more a young student identifies with that sentence then the sake of achieving goal justifies any method which actually doesn't!

When taken as an intrinsic value that sentence would make people as corrupt as their desires take and make them.

The problem is if everybody adopts the same kind of stance (even to varying degree) then everything will become chaotic, crumble and every mankind civilization and society as we know now will come to end and we all be living like savages.

That quote is A MAJOR FAIL!:down:

Even if Hitler had won WWII and ruled the entire world.

When men regress their civilization will too. That is a guarantee!

[Snestorm]

I see nothing wrong with the quote.

"The end justifies the means." Machiaveli
That's a whole lot colder than the quote from Hitler, and I learned it in school.
Double standard???

[antikristuseke]

I fail to see a problem with quoting Hitler in a school yearbook. It is not like that quote is espousing genocide or proclaiming superiority of any race over another. The fact that the person quotes was an insane little **** does not make the quote itself any less valid.

[Castout]

I see nothing wrong with the quote.

"The end justifies the means." Machiaveli
That's a whole lot colder than the quote from Hitler, and I learned it in school.
Double standard???

Machiaveli....no surprise personally I hate the guy's ideals that has inspired many crook political leaders and tyrants. Those people were or are successful because the others couldn't afford to go as low or lower . . . .It's amazing(or disgusting) how successful you can get when you live a life without moral consideration at all of course if done with proper intelligence or cunning because the truth is most capable men just can't afford reducing themselves to that kind of low point.

The motto which I believe:
Believe in nothing but your own desires, regard nothing but your own desires, do anything to make them happen. Freedom to be an anarchist without being thought one or even admitting to that. There's NO LAW from above or below to ever be heeded AT ALL but your own desires except when it's directly and as long as it is profitable. Befriend those you cannot fight against, avoid and fool those you can't win against and befriend but crush any other perceived threats otherwise, the sooner the better.

Total anarchy.
No form no ideals no principles, only desires and opportunities that come to make them happen. NOTHING IS SACRED.
Live to worship your own desires. Die in satisfaction.

[Raptor1]

"And in the last analysis, success is what matters," -Adolf Hitler, the fool that attacked everybody just because he thought he could.

I don't believe it was a mistake ever.

The student or whoever wrote that identify with the quote which Hitler had spoken.

It's as simple as that.

It is disturbing because when a person much more a young student identifies with that sentence then the sake of achieving goal justifies any method which actually doesn't!

When taken as an intrinsic value that sentence would make people as corrupt as their desires take and make them.

The problem is if everybody adopts the same kind of stance (even to varying degree) then everything will become chaotic, crumble and every mankind civilization and society as we know now will come to end and we all be living like savages.

That quote is A MAJOR FAIL!:down:

Even if Hitler had won WWII and ruled the entire world.

When men regress their civilization will too. That is a guarantee!

I would have thought whoever put it in there identifies with the quote in the sense that 'success matters', or something like that, not that it matters in any cost. Anyone who quotes Hitler in a yearbook might well be ignorant enough not to understand the meaning of the quote.

[Skybird]

Machiaveli is easy to be misunderstood as thus to be seen as a moron. I have read his major works and an extensive biography on him by one of the leading authors about him. He wasn't that moral moron (with the exception with his many relations to women, maybe :) ) He just was not too sentimental when assessing what works with leading the pack, and what not. He was a very dedicated realist, and he realised that lie and betrayal as well as manipulating people are the rules by which the game of power is played. He did not say that that is good or bad - he just said that that is how it is.

I recommend his Discorsi before any other of his works.

He also ws an admirer of the early Roman republic. That he had intimate knowledge of Roman history and about the names of it's poltical figures, you can easily see in the Discorsi.

To me he is not so much showing how morally crippled he was when revealing how politics get done by manipulation. He just pointed at the obvious. seen that way, he more revealed how morally crippled we all are - because we function in that way that we accept getting manipulated if only our superficial desires get pleased.

The power of the tyrant - needs the weakness and stupdity of those he rules. Philantropists tend to deny or ignoire that, claiming that it would be offending to say that. Machiaveli just showed the obvious, even if it is no compliment for us. In principle, he was just an unsentimental realist.


On the Hitler quote, one or two guys said that nothing is wrong with it. First, I do not know the context of the quote, if he said that in a context of wiping out the Jews, than obviously the quote is far from being "okay". Second, it is not only important what a quote says, but also, who the author of that quote is. And to refer to one of the worst criminals in mankind's history in order to make a moral or otherwise claimed reasonable statement, maybe is not the best of ideas. At best it helps to reinstall that criminal's bad reputation. And one must ask if that can be wanted in the case of Hitler. what's next, then? Taking simple ohrases from his speeches and rip them out of context of his policy and deeds and putting him side by side with pacifists and great philosophers of past times?

[Castout]

Machiaveli is easy to be misunderstood as thus to be seen as a moron.

He's not a moron he's a jerk :O:.

I'm no fan obviously

[Castout]

I would have thought whoever put it in there identifies with the quote in the sense that 'success matters', or something like that, not that it matters in any cost.

It would mean that way had he not put Hitler nor Machiaveli after the sentence :DL.

For example
Had he written

"And in the last analysis, success is what matters," -Lord Jesus Christ

it would mean entirely different than

"And in the last analysis, success is what matters," -Adolvie Hitler

but we all know Christ never said that :DL

[Raptor1]

It would mean that way had he not put Hitler nor Machiaveli after the sentence :DL.

Yes, and it would also mean that way if he didn't understand the quote or who it was that said it. There are plenty of stupid people around...

EDIT: I suppose it could also have been some kind of joke as well.

By the way, I have never heard of this quote before, anyone know an actual source for it?

[SteamWake]

Golly gee big news some kid at some obscure high school puts something stupid / provacative in their year book. Like that never happens.

Now its national news :doh:

How about that flood anyhow :nope:

[antikristuseke]

It would mean that way had he not put Hitler nor Machiaveli after the sentence :DL.

For example
Had he written

"And in the last analysis, success is what matters," -Lord Jesus Christ

it would mean entirely different than

"And in the last analysis, success is what matters," -Adolvie Hitler

but we all know Christ never said that :DL

How would a sentence change its meaning depending on who authored it?
I mean the quote itself is pretty much just a paraphrasing of "the only thing that matters is winning", not exactly ideal guideline to live a compassionate life by, but it would sound just as cold and uncaring if the saintliest person on Earth said it.

[Takeda Shingen]

It seems to be a combination of some kid trying to be funny and the yearbook advisor not checking the content and layout before sending it to press. I used to teach high school for a brief time, and you have to really watch those kids when it comes to stuff like this. They tend to think that they are both very funny and much smarter than you.

[Castout]

How would a sentence change its meaning depending on who authored it?
I mean the quote itself is pretty much just a paraphrasing of "the only thing that matters is winning", not exactly ideal guideline to live a compassionate life by, but it would sound just as cold and uncaring if the saintliest person on Earth said it.

No actually the author life is what gives meaning to the sentence.

It may not be obvious but hardly anything in life does anymore :DL

There's a very big big difference had those words been spoken by Christ or Hitler.

But I'm not going to explain it maybe in time you'll tell the difference ;)
Besides explaining it takes away the fun deciphering it...and it's beside the point..as it was just an example.

It would also change meaning had Lance Armstrong for example been the one who said it.
Or even some unknown student.

[TLAM Strike]

Lets play: Identify that quote!

"Anti-Semitism, as an extreme form of racial chauvinism, is the most dangerous vestige of cannibalism."

"Education is a weapon whose effects depend on who holds it in his hands and at whom it is aimed."

"Let us pray in this hour that nothing can divide us, and that God will help us against the Devil! Almighty Lord, bless our fight!"

"It would be easier for the Devil to go to church and cross himself with holy water than for these people to comprehend the ideas which are accepted facts to us today."

"Nothing is more precious than Independence and Liberty."

"Maybe you're afraid of sinking. Don't think about it. If you don't think about it, you won't sink. If you do, you will."

"Politics is war without bloodshed, while war is politics with bloodshed."

"Ideas do not need weapons, if they can convince the great masses."

"I am confident that the day is not far distant when the light of peace shine again."

[cptroyce]

Just another wonderful example of the "clueless" generation America is churning out :damn:

[The Third Man]

The fact that the quote was correctly attributed to Adolf Hitler makes me question the faculty oversite. Was there any?

[GoldenRivet]

serious lack of judgment putting that into the yearbook.

good quote though ;) just made by an infamous person

[Gerald]

serious lack of judgment putting that into the yearbook.

good quote though ;) just made by an infamous person and this meant that a newspaper got info, and then gave it one second,under normal circumstances, so things do not happen, then you have tight control on what should be printed and carefully checked several times, it is an example of ignorance.

[Takeda Shingen]

In this whole mess, it is the yearbook advisor that I wouldn't want to be. Imagine that meeting with Administration:

Administration: Why is there a quote from Adolf Hitler in the yearbook?
Advisior: One of the students must have put it in.
Administration: And why didn't you catch it?
Advisor: Because I didn't look.
Admisitration: So we have angry parents and egg on our faces because you didn't bother to proof the book before it was sent out?
Advisor: Umm......yes. But this year's book will be great.

[Gerald]

In this whole mess, it is the yearbook advisor that I wouldn't want to be. Imagine that meeting with Administration:

Administration: Why is there a quote from Adolf Hitler in the yearbook?
Advisior: One of the students must have put it in.
Administration: And why didn't you catch it?
Advisor: Because I didn't look.
Admisitration: So we have angry parents and egg on our faces because you didn't bother to proof the book before it was sent out?
Advisor: Umm......yes. But this year's book will be great. scenario in front of him, and clearly there will be given to someone who is responsible for the adm.

[Factor]

Ok, off topic, but I always got my yearbook at the end of the school year. These yearbooks were handed out Thursday?

[The Third Man]

Ok, off topic, but I always got my yearbook at the end of the school year. These yearbooks were handed out Thursday?

That you remember that is interesting. 30+ years latter I don't even have my HS yearbook. But I am certain career academics would have reviewed and censored the book.

[Task Force]

Just another wonderful example of the "clueless" generation America is churning out :damn:


HEY! I resent that, I am part of this clueless genaration... and, err... I must agree.:har:


Ok, off topic, but I always got my yearbook at the end of the school year. These yearbooks were handed out Thursday?


Hmm, maby this school is arsebackwards? Maby they accidently said!

Hello stidents im you HISTORY teacher, now lets learn about WW2!
First the allies, Adolf Hitler, Tojo, and mussolini. and On the EVIL axis, we have Churchill, US (F*CK YA), thos Commie bastards!