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yubba
08-25-10, 07:26 PM
Let's see if we can run this thread as a exchange of ideas and helpful things to survive these trying times ,I know it doesn't help listening too Beck, Rush , Hennity and Levin all day no wonder I'M wacked. Let it go where it wants to. There might be some advice out there that, just might help someone. Venting welcome. Would be interersted in some of you guys survival skills. Me USMC combat engineer 80/84, knew some of the guys that died in the Barracks bombing in Beirut, hell it was a whole company Com Company 8th Engineer Battalion 2nd FSSG, their barracks was next to mine. If we took care of business back then we wouldn't have the problems we have now. Talking nicely to tyranny won't stop it.

TLAM Strike
08-25-10, 08:04 PM
If we took care of business back then we wouldn't have the problems we have now. I think if we "took care of business" back then we would still be occupying Iran today.

...yea it was them... :yep:

Castout
08-25-10, 08:13 PM
You can't talk nicely to tyranny.


Sadly the US has done just that in many cases...

Sure the US is tough on tyrannical regimes which are not friendly to the US. . but not otherwise even quite tolerant.

Imo terrorism is an ideology(idealism) which should be fought with guess what opposing ideology(idealism).

And try to stop reinforcing their belief in the ideology of terrorism done from the US side.

yubba
08-25-10, 08:17 PM
The only reason why we are in the sand is because of oil. You can see what the occupation of Iraq got us . Thank You Mr Bush. If they only grew turnips who'd care. In Islams eye either you are or you're dead reason with that. AND why are liberal democrats embrassing Islam.

jumpy
08-25-10, 08:23 PM
Some domestic, some not:

Only fill your kettle with as much water as you are going to use - it takes less electricity to boil that water and therefore less money to pay for that electricity.

Switch off lights when you're not in the room.

If your bread is a little bit mouldy, toast it. Bread mould never killed anyone.

Use a microwave to cook with - it costs less than using an electric or gas hob.

Make meals to freeze instead of buying overpriced crap from supermarkets - it's also healthier.

Don't rely on anyone but yourself; because when the time comes, the closeness you feel towards another only serves to emphasize the true gulf between you.

Cotton wool balls soaked in a little bit of Vaseline (petroleum jelly) make good emergency tinder and will take a spark from flint and steel, even when wet and will burn longer than cotton wool on its own.

Keep your knife sharp at all times - a blunt knife is a dangerous knife.

If it feels wrong, then it probably is.

When building a fire, construct a wind-break heat reflector to direct heat back at you eg wattle & daub fence (or whatever). Preferably have your back to something similar too. If no materials are available stack gear/bergens behind you as a wind break.

WATER: without it you'll last 2 days at 48c if you sit in the shade and do nothing. If you have to walk anywhere in 48c you could perhaps cover 25 miles walking at night. During the day, perhaps a little as 5 miles. At 48c with 2L of water, you might last 3 days and travel 35 miles.
Drink 1.5L for every 2 lost.

hah - beware Greeks bearing gifts :arrgh!: This thread seemed to change as I was writing this, so perhaps I'm waaay off the mark lol

TLAM Strike
08-25-10, 08:25 PM
The only reason why we are in the sand is because of oil. You can see what the occupation of Iraq got us . Thank You Mr Bush. If they only grew turnips who'd care. Really? Bush must have been clairvoyant because they only found Oil in Afghanistan last week... :03:
(http://english.aljazeera.net/news/asia/2010/08/20108159431776396.html)

yubba
08-25-10, 08:36 PM
found that lithium stuff that they were going to put Government Motors Volt batteries. This was to be a advice thread so here goes ,Movies a must see, RED DAWN and MAD MAX, I think Rambo would be alittle over the top. Time too sharpen the guns and clean the knives

Takeda Shingen
08-25-10, 08:50 PM
So, because we do not like the current administration and it's policies we're going to get ourselves a nitro-charged 1973 Ford Falcon GT and run down The Toecutter.

Platapus
08-25-10, 08:53 PM
Use a microwave to cook with - it costs less than using an electric or gas hob.


is that really true? If you have to cook something from scratch (as opposed to just heating up something already cooked) does a microwave use less energy than gas?

Platapus
08-25-10, 08:55 PM
Some domestic, some not:


hah - beware Greeks bearing gifts :arrgh!: This thread seemed to change as I was writing this, so perhaps I'm waaay off the mark lol


You forgot one really important one

Beware the ides of March.:know:

jumpy
08-25-10, 09:06 PM
^^

me ma swears by it - she cooks meat and veg, curries and all sorts from scratch. obviously you don't get the nice 'crackling' on meat etc but it works ok.
She's really anal about the leccy bill so I guess there's a decent comparison if only anecdotal and not entirely scientific..
There's a few google searches that seem to indicate cost vs time comparisons with traditional stoves and microwave cooking.

GoldenRivet
08-25-10, 09:07 PM
When Tyranny comes knocking.

...its already too late


should have addressed it before it reached your door ;)

August
08-25-10, 09:17 PM
So, because we do not like the current administration and it's policies we're going to get ourselves a nitro-charged 1973 Ford Falcon GT and run down The Toecutter.

If he does it before they run over his wife and child does it become a timely idea?

frau kaleun
08-25-10, 09:18 PM
beware Greeks bearing gifts


Beware the ides of March.

Also: don't invade Russia.

Takeda Shingen
08-25-10, 09:21 PM
If he does it before they run over his wife and child does it become a timely idea?

:haha:

I was always surprised that society is breaking down and yet you can make a living selling ice cream.

Ducimus
08-25-10, 09:25 PM
So, because we do not like the current administration and it's policies we're going to get ourselves a nitro-charged 1973 Ford Falcon GT and run down The Toecutter.

Now were talking! Sign me up!

Come on, Sing it!

Get your motor runnin'
Head out on the highway
Lookin' for adventure
And whatever comes our way....

http://www.hecklerspray.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/1973_ford_falcon_xb_gt_coupe_mad_max.jpg

August
08-25-10, 09:30 PM
:haha:

I was always surprised that society is breaking down and yet you can make a living selling ice cream.


Dude, once the air conditioning stops running ice cream becomes the new gold! :yep:

mookiemookie
08-25-10, 10:14 PM
http://verybadfrog.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Meanwhile-in-America.jpeg

Ducimus
08-25-10, 10:16 PM
http://verybadfrog.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Meanwhile-in-America.jpeg

Oh man, talk about a classic sterotype. God and Guns, all wrapped up into one. :har:

Sailor Steve
08-25-10, 11:15 PM
beware Greeks bearing gifts :arrgh!:
Because, as anyone who reads the classics knows, Greeks bearing gifts always turn out to bring gifts bearing Greeks.

TLAM Strike
08-25-10, 11:35 PM
Also: don't invade Russia.

Ice and marshes be damned the Russkies can be conquered; if you bath in urine beforehand, then the Russians will gladly pay you whatever tribute you want. ;)

gimpy117
08-26-10, 01:12 AM
by taking care of business you mean shooting everybody we don't like, huh?

sounds like a solid plan. except that kinda ruined out country over the last 8 years.

frau kaleun
08-26-10, 07:32 AM
Ice and marshes be damned the Russkies can be conquered; if you bath in urine beforehand, then the Russians will gladly pay you whatever tribute you want. ;)

http://catandgirl.com/archive/cg0472napoleon.gif

Bilge_Rat
08-26-10, 08:22 AM
the problem with trying to be the world's policemen is that many if not most of the world's countries are dictatorships of one form or another and it has been like that since the beginning of civilization, 8,000 years ago. So where do you start?

North korea? China? Burma? Sudan? Congo? Syria? Kazakhstan? Saudi Arabia? Egypt? Lybia? Algeria? Chad? Venezuela?

The U.S. had grand ideas of bringing western style democracy to Iraq and the middle east when it invaded in 2003. Look how well that turned out..

Better to deal with the urgent problems on a case by case basis.

Skybird
08-26-10, 08:30 AM
Some domestic, some not:

Use a microwave to cook with - it costs less than using an electric or gas hob.
Using a combined micro-grill-combo myself (additional to electro-stove and water-cooker), and having good experience with it, I only say: it depends on the type and ammount of food. For some purposes, micros use less electricity, for others, they use more. If you use it for everything, your electricity bill will grow considerably.

Preferred would be a gas-stove and a huge Wok, cast iron, uncoated. Lets you regulate temperature better than anything else.

What saves you real money (more than 50% compared to the bakery shop, calculating both electricity and ingredients), is a good homebaker machine. That I use since I left the home of my parents. Panasonic's is the best you can get. I grind the flour myself, too. All in all a wholegrain bread that costs me around 4-5 Euros at the baker, selfmade costs around 2 euros or less (and tastes much better).

Kitchen One, out. :DL

Konovalov
08-26-10, 08:37 AM
Cooking tips from Sky. :DL Seriously why have we not got a cooking thread? We sub simmers are such a diverse multi-talented bunch of guys and girls.

frau kaleun
08-26-10, 08:44 AM
Cooking tips from Sky. :DL Seriously why have we not got a cooking thread? We sub simmers are such a diverse multi-talented bunch of guys and girls.

I think about this every week when I watch Top Chef. :D

Seriously, though, that would be cool. Sharing recipes and hints and tips, questions and answers.

Sadly I'm typically more interested in buying cool things for my kitchen, not so much in the actual, you know, cooking part. A lot of it is the time factor, but still. You know it's bad when you're using a $165 MRP grill pan to heat up frozen Tyson chicken strips. :O:

Skybird
08-26-10, 08:59 AM
First you must provide me with a list of kitchen-typical vocabularies and translations for the names of spices and vegetables. :DL And then I make all your hungry bellies do yum-yum until you all lay down and go tom-tom. :D

frau kaleun
08-26-10, 09:11 AM
First you must provide me with a list of kitchen-typical vocabularies and translations for the names of spices and vegetables. :DL And then I make all your hungry bellies do yum-yum until you all lay down and go tom-tom. :D

:wah:

I don't know if this will help - no translations, but it does have pictures and descriptions:

The Cook's Thesaurus (http://www.foodsubs.com/)

You are reminding me of all the times I go to the big international market down the street and look at all the German stuff with the pictures of yummy looking food on the front and then I turn the box over and all the directions are in German.

So again I say:

:wah:

TLAM Strike
08-26-10, 10:34 AM
You are reminding me of all the times I go to the big international market down the street and look at all the German stuff with the pictures of yummy looking food on the front and then I turn the box over and all the directions are in German.

Well the Germans tried to make everyone speak their language, you can't fault them for that...


:O:

Gerald
08-26-10, 10:39 AM
http://verybadfrog.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Meanwhile-in-America.jpeg :haha:

yubba
08-26-10, 04:30 PM
I feel so inadequate. BBQ Gabbage . 1 Gabbage, place on tin foil enough to wrap, cut core out, 1/2 stick of butter in core hole, 1 or 2 tablespoons of vinegar in hole, get your favorite BBQ sauce, pour over gabbage wrap it and put on grill cook it till soft. enjoy. BBQ Greens and black eyed peas , collard or turnip greens. sheet of tin foil enough to make pouch you can use canned greens or fresh strain water off canned, place on tin foil spread greens out ,add strained can of black eyed peas ,add bacon and onion ,again with your favorite BBQ sauce a nice coating wrap and put on grill. cook till bacon is done. Also works in crock pot and microwave minus tin foil of course.