newbie question alert hehe!

[Captain Can]

ahoy fellow captains,my name is Can!greatings from Turkey! :)

i am the new guy on this forum.i always heard about silent hunter series but never have a chance to play.well finally after discovering the great great SH3 a month ago(a huge 'Das Boot' movie fan here) ,i've discovered here while "googleing" some tips for the game.i must say that you guys rock!(GWX what a mode!!)

i learned the game basics but i am struggling with manuel TDC.the game is still fun for me with automatic TDC but i wanna take a few steps forward.so any video or written links from you guys about manuel TDC will be highly appreciated.(but please keep in mind that i am a newbie hehe! :DL )

sorry for the long post btw,i dont wish to bother anyone.

[Panser]

The ultimate guide to manual targeting is Wazoo's Manual Charting & Targeting Tutorial [v 2.3]

http://www.paulwasserman.net/SHIII/ (http://www.paulwasserman.net/SHIII/)

This video is also pretty good, though it isn't at maximum realism:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FnPqBJ5H4Y (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FnPqBJ5H4Y)

[Cambaz]

Welcome aboard Captain Can:salute: I guess I can help you in Turkish much more effectively, just ask what you want to learn about via PM... or via this topic your call :)

[Captain Can]

panser thanks for the links i am checking them right now.
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cambaz merhaba!:DL
its great the see Turkish fans of this great game hehe!i dont have a specific point,i am just looking for some tips with the manuel targeting as i have no exprerience with it.either written or video although video links will be much better for me as i am a newbie captain :) (türkçe konuşabiliyor muyuz bilmiyorum başlık altında :) )

[CherryHarbey]

welcome.
I've only just switched to collecting data for the TDC manually and I've been playing for a lot longer than a month, so if you are struggling with it then you are not the only one.
Check out the guides posted by Panser, if you are still having problems then keep the Weapons Officer assitance on, he's always right. that way you can collect the data yourself and then see if you were right by asking him for a solution.

[Cambaz]

panser thanks for the links i am checking them right now.
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cambaz merhaba!:DL
its great the see Turkish fans of this great game hehe!i dont have a specific point,i am just looking for some tips with the manuel targeting as i have no exprerience with it.either written or video although video links will be much better for me as i am a newbie captain :) (türkçe konuşabiliyor muyuz bilmiyorum başlık altında :) )

yea its great to see you here too :) if you want tips so you docked in a very right place, all the captains around here are so experienced and full of knowledge just ask anything you want to hear about like I did once upon a time ago :D (abi bi suru tutorial ve video bulabilirsin turkce konusmamiza pek ii bakmayabilirler burda gerci fark etmezde millet fransiz kalir hep:D istedigin zaman ozel mesaj atabilirsin bana burdan her konuda bildiklerimi anlatabilirim sana)

[Captain Can]

welcome.
I've only just switched to collecting data for the TDC manually and I've been playing for a lot longer than a month, so if you are struggling with it then you are not the only one.

ah good to see i am not the ony one struggling with it.:) i have a huge problem with the torpido angle (it always misses the target ship) ,but i am gonna try the 3mins 15 secs rule that i have just saw from the youtube link Panser sent.

all the captains around here are so experienced and full of knowledge just ask anything you want to hear about like I did once upon a time ago :D (abi bi suru tutorial ve video bulabilirsin turkce konusmamiza pek ii bakmayabilirler burda gerci fark etmezde millet fransiz kalir hep:D istedigin zaman ozel mesaj atabilirsin bana burdan her konuda bildiklerimi anlatabilirim sana)

hehe great to hear that cambaz.(abi şu youtube linkine bakıyorum elemanın yolladığı manuel TDC olayım bir felekat.açı fln yapamıyorum biraz kasmak lazım anlaşılan :))

[Tessa]

Doing manual targeting right out of the box is most ambitous, many experienced players decline to do it (usually out of preference and saving time and frustration). For manual targeting I'd suggest that you use the OLC Gui mod, its been around for a long time and (arguably) the best scope out there.

You get all the info you need from sliding the rings around which mechanically will compute most of the data you need. From my experience, its made (for me) an operation that was once extremely difficult down to something hard. It's been around when I started playing in 2006, and just kept improving over time, there's a plethora of people that can help on how to use it (and there's some good tutorial videos for it as well).

[Captain Can]

For manual targeting I'd suggest that you use the OLC Gui mod, its been around for a long time and (arguably) the best scope out there.

Tessa tnx for the tips.now i am checking the mode you told me.

[StarLion45]

Wlcome to aboard Herr Kaleun :salute:

[Captain Can]

Wlcome to aboard Herr Kaleun :salute:

Cheers Kapitan!!:salute:

[frau kaleun]

Ahoy and welcome, Can! :salute:

No tips on manual targeting from me as I am still relying on Mr. Triangle to help with that particular chore. But I can echo what most others have said, you've found the right place for answers to your SH3 questions. :yeah:

[Sailor Steve]

WELCOME ABOARD! :sunny:

Mr. Triangle...
I have Manual Targetting set, but also WE Assistance. It takes longer since I have him take several readings even though he doesn't need to. It's just as easy but at least it 'feels' more real.

[Alpha Von Burg]

Welcome aboard herr kaleun :salute:

Good luck and happy hunting...

[HW3]

Welcome aboard Captain Can!

[Flaxpants]

Ahoy there Captain Can! I'm about 2 months ahead of you having never tried Silent Hunter before, and like you I went straight in with the manual TDC (which I have to say is one of my favourite aspects). At first it was daunting but after having watched and read all the stuff I could I find I seem to have now got it down. If it's any consolation, now I can do it, it is actually much more simple than it first seemed.
I recommend you keep Map updates on until such time as you have worked out the TDC, at least then you can concentrate on the manual stuff without spending all your time actually working out where the boat is on your map.
Good Luck!:smug:

[Captain Can]

Thx a lot for all welcome's fellow Captains! :salute:

Ahoy there Captain Can! I'm about 2 months ahead of you having never tried Silent Hunter before, and like you I went straight in with the manual TDC (which I have to say is one of my favourite aspects).

now i am jealous hehe!:DL i hope i can use manuel TDC as well.

yesterday i done some practice but i couldnt hit any targets.i guess i need more practice and any links from you guys will be appricated :)

[Flaxpants]

Do what I did- Just get yourself onto YouTube and watch, and watch until it makes sense. It will.

[Pisces]

Ahoy and welcome, Can! :salute:

No tips on manual targeting from me as I am still relying on Mr. Triangle to help with that particular chore. But I can echo what most others have said, you've found the right place for answers to your SH3 questions. :yeah:I'm afraid I have not previously been introduced to a man going by this name. I think. Would you care to do the honours in showing me where the gentleman is?

[Pisces]

Also from the beginning try to keep the 2 parts separate.

1: First figuring out where he is going and with what speed. (usually involves plotting)

2: Getting into position (ahead) to shoot and setting up the TDC.

Separating the 2 gives you situational awareness, and makes you prepared. Thinking "I need to shoot now" the moment you encounter the target is the wrong way to start.

Also, in addition to Paul 'Wazzoo' Wasserman's tutorial I advise you to search for Dantenoc's 3 part tutorial 'The Hunt'. (there should also be videos of it somewhere ... DUH!! :damn:... Check the Filefront-link below)

And this thread by him:

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=88961

[frau kaleun]

I'm afraid I have not previously been introduced to a man going by this name. I think. Would you care to do the honours in showing me where the gentleman is?

Frankly, I'm shocked that you are unfamiliar with him, as Mr. Triangle has had one of the most long and storied military careers in history:

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/picture.php?albumid=158&pictureid=1292

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/picture.php?albumid=158&pictureid=1291

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/picture.php?albumid=158&pictureid=1290

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/picture.php?albumid=158&pictureid=1289

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/picture.php?albumid=158&pictureid=1288

Personally I feel fortunate to have him on my boat and do not hesitate to confess that much of my success is due directly to his guidance and assistance.

[Captain Can]

Frankly, I'm shocked that you are unfamiliar with him, as Mr. Triangle has had one of the most long and storied military careers in history.

oh my god!!Frau Kaleun you made my day second time after "vuvuzela salute".i was wondering 'bout Mr. (the mysterious) Triangle but i guess we got our answer.:har: that second and final pic come on.:har: :haha:



Also, in addition to Paul 'Wazzoo' Wasserman's tutorial I advise you to search for Dantenoc's 3 part tutorial 'The Hunt'. (there should also be videos of it somewhere ... DUH!! :damn:... Check the Filefront-link below)

And this thread by him:
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=88961

a huge tnx for the tips Pisces.btw that thread link that you sent is exactly what i was looking for!:)

i will take a screenshot when i blow up my first ship with using manuel TDC.i will do that!:)

[Sailor Steve]

An addendum on Herr Triangle: Back in the days of Silent Hunter II the red triangle was all we had. People struggled to make manual targetting mods, with varying (very little) success. It came to a point when we saw advanced release screenshots for SHIII and there was the triangle (though sometimes green or yellow in this case) we began to panic, and ask desparate questions. We relaxed somewhat when they assured us that the triangles would only be there in the easiest levels, and that true manual targetting would be an option.

Anyway, we used to be :/\\!! and hated it so much we wanted to :/\\chop or even :/\\x:, but there are stll some who want to :/\\k:.

Me, I just avoid it. I wish I could do so in SH4.

[Pisces]

Frankly, I'm shocked that you are unfamiliar with him, as Mr. Triangle has had one of the most long and storied military careers in history:

(appearances of Mr. Triangle snipped)

Personally I feel fortunate to have him on my boat and do not hesitate to confess that much of my success is due directly to his guidance and assistance.Ah yes, now I remember. I'm sorry, it was ages ago. Some time during the 1st Pacific War I had the honor of conferring with him about tactical matters. At the time his guidance didn't make much sense. However over the years his subliminal suggestions have crystallized the concept of the attack triangle in my head. Allowing me to fair much better in the Atlantic. I should be ever grateful to the man. :salute:

http://www.subsim.com/images/sh_shot1.gif