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Jimbuna
08-25-10, 11:09 AM
I've been meaning to post these for a few months now but never got around to it.

I did a favour for a local community transport company in June this year and drove a busload of elderly gentlemen for a day outing to Eden Camp in Malton, North Yorkshire.

http://www.edencamp.co.uk/index.html

As I recall the camp was used to intern Italian POW's during WWII

My reward....free entry plus a £5 food and drink voucher for the driver and most importantly, seeing the looks on some of those gentlemens faces as they beamed with pride as they reminisced with each other during the visit :DL

In no particular order:

http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/7830/p1000386.jpg (http://img829.imageshack.us/i/p1000386.jpg/)

http://img842.imageshack.us/img842/4773/p1000387f.jpg (http://img842.imageshack.us/i/p1000387f.jpg/)

http://img825.imageshack.us/img825/9538/p1000388.jpg (http://img825.imageshack.us/i/p1000388.jpg/)

http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/7558/p1000389v.jpg (http://img217.imageshack.us/i/p1000389v.jpg/)

http://img814.imageshack.us/img814/2064/p1000390.jpg (http://img814.imageshack.us/i/p1000390.jpg/)

http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/9418/p1000391m.jpg (http://img820.imageshack.us/i/p1000391m.jpg/)

http://img837.imageshack.us/img837/2061/p1000384.jpg (http://img837.imageshack.us/i/p1000384.jpg/)


http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/7025/p1000385c.jpg (http://img820.imageshack.us/i/p1000385c.jpg/)

Jimbuna
08-25-10, 11:09 AM
The V-1

http://img836.imageshack.us/img836/4064/p1000416.jpg (http://img836.imageshack.us/i/p1000416.jpg/)

http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/6126/p1000417z.jpg (http://img829.imageshack.us/i/p1000417z.jpg/)

http://img839.imageshack.us/img839/8391/p1000418v.jpg (http://img839.imageshack.us/i/p1000418v.jpg/)

http://img828.imageshack.us/img828/1985/p1000419q.jpg (http://img828.imageshack.us/i/p1000419q.jpg/)

Jimbuna
08-25-10, 11:11 AM
Underwater Chariots/Maile/Human trorpedos

http://img838.imageshack.us/img838/8843/p1000392q.jpg (http://img838.imageshack.us/i/p1000392q.jpg/)

http://img842.imageshack.us/img842/8466/p1000393i.jpg (http://img842.imageshack.us/i/p1000393i.jpg/)

http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/6763/p1000394g.jpg (http://img841.imageshack.us/i/p1000394g.jpg/)

http://img837.imageshack.us/img837/3429/p1000395f.jpg (http://img837.imageshack.us/i/p1000395f.jpg/)

http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/4392/p1000396.jpg (http://img832.imageshack.us/i/p1000396.jpg/)

http://img842.imageshack.us/img842/3469/p1000397p.jpg (http://img842.imageshack.us/i/p1000397p.jpg/)

http://img839.imageshack.us/img839/6862/p1000398md.jpg (http://img839.imageshack.us/i/p1000398md.jpg/)

http://img838.imageshack.us/img838/9743/p1000399h.jpg (http://img838.imageshack.us/i/p1000399h.jpg/)

http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/3535/p1000400.jpg (http://img841.imageshack.us/i/p1000400.jpg/)

Sailor Steve
08-25-10, 11:11 AM
Cool stuff, Jim! Thanks for sharing.

August
08-25-10, 11:11 AM
Wicked cool! Thanks for posting. :salute:

AVGWarhawk
08-25-10, 11:22 AM
The Spitfire is just one beautiful aircraft. Next to the P-40 the Spitfire has the best lines I have ever seen. I have seen a Supermarine Spit fly. What a machine. That crocodile is very cool looking. The half-track looks brand new. Thanks for sharing Jim.

Jimbuna
08-25-10, 11:41 AM
The Spitfire is just one beautiful aircraft. Next to the P-40 the Spitfire has the best lines I have ever seen. I have seen a Supermarine Spit fly. What a machine. That crocodile is very cool looking. The half-track looks brand new. Thanks for sharing Jim.

I'm still sorting the photos but you will see a small variety of underwater chariots and a T-34/85 as well as a V-1 amongst other gear shortly.

There wasn't a lot outdoors and quite a bit of what was looked like it needed a bit of TLC...most of the exhibits were in huts showing different themes etc.

Takeda Shingen
08-25-10, 11:45 AM
Those are fantastic! Thanks Jim!

ajrimmer42
08-25-10, 11:51 AM
awesome, love the place! Do they still sell the 'smells' in the gift shop?

HunterICX
08-25-10, 11:54 AM
Nice shots, thanks for sharing Jim! :salute:

HunterICX

Gerald
08-25-10, 11:55 AM
And a nice playground :DL

AVGWarhawk
08-25-10, 12:03 PM
I'm still sorting the photos but you will see a small variety of underwater chariots and a T-34/85 as well as a V-1 amongst other gear shortly.

There wasn't a lot outdoors and quite a bit of what was looked like it needed a bit of TLC...most of the exhibits were in huts showing different themes etc.


Given the age and being in the elements each pieces looks good. This is from a guy who has worked on a WW2 submarine that still floats in the bay! She looks good for her age and being in the elements. My view is a bit skewed! :DL

Platapus
08-25-10, 08:09 PM
Nice pictures.

Please Sir, I want some more - O. Twist

:yeah:

Jimbuna
08-26-10, 03:40 AM
awesome, love the place! Do they still sell the 'smells' in the gift shop?

They sure do but I didn't partake :DL

ajrimmer42
08-26-10, 04:08 AM
They sure do but I didn't partake :DL

Aww, I mean who wouldn't want their Kitchen to smell like Black Market Sausages, or their living room to smell like the Blitz??? lol

Schroeder
08-26-10, 04:54 AM
@Jim
Will you finally hurry up man? We're waiting!
Those Brits are some lazy .....:nope:


(Hey, I'm German. The Tommies expect me to talk like that, my people have a reputation to loose.)
:D

Jimbuna
08-26-10, 01:13 PM
Aww, I mean who wouldn't want their Kitchen to smell like Black Market Sausages, or their living room to smell like the Blitz??? lol


LOL :DL

Jimbuna
08-26-10, 01:15 PM
@Jim
Will you finally hurry up man? We're waiting!
Those Brits are some lazy .....:nope:


(Hey, I'm German. The Tommies expect me to talk like that, my people have a reputation to loose.)
:D


Sorry mate, I've been out most of the day but it will DEFINITELY BE TOMORROW.

There's even a mock up of a U-boat interior....not the most detailed example but the sounds were great :DL

TarJak
08-26-10, 09:32 PM
Looking forward to seeing the next round. These ones were nice Jim. Might have to put that place on the visit list next time I get over the the UK.

Jimbuna
08-27-10, 05:34 AM
Looking forward to seeing the next round. These ones were nice Jim. Might have to put that place on the visit list next time I get over the the UK.

I never really fancied it even though both my kids went as youngsters and assured me I'd like it.

I'm glad I did now :DL




#2 Updated with the V-1 pictures.

Schroeder
08-27-10, 05:42 AM
Isn't it just a lovely missile. And I can even imitate it's sound....after having plenty of beans for dinner.:D

Well, I still don't see any military sense in all of our V-weapons but they were some awesome developments... if they had been used for productive and not destructive things.:nope:

Jimbuna
08-27-10, 07:08 AM
Isn't it just a lovely missile. And I can even imitate it's sound....after having plenty of beans for dinner.:D

Well, I still don't see any military sense in all of our V-weapons but they were some awesome developments... if they had been used for productive and not destructive things.:nope:

LOL :DL

The technology in those days was quite impressive but a little late in the day to change the course of the war.

#3 Updated with the Human Torpedo pictures.

Schroeder
08-27-10, 07:34 AM
I don't think the V-weapons would have made any difference either if they had been fielded earlier. As I said, I don't see any military value in them, they can only cause terror and nothing else. They were way to inaccurate to be launched against military targets and quite some of them did not even hit the cities they were launched against. A real waste of scarce resources IMHO.

Nice torpedo pictures btw.
I think it must be a blast to ride one of those....in peacetime and just for fun.:rock:

Raptor1
08-27-10, 07:45 AM
Actually, by the end of the war measures were invented that greatly increased the accuracy of the V-2 with ground-based radio guidence, but these systems were not used extensively. Had these systems been used earlier and in much larger numbers, it could have turned out to be an effective weapon, especially for striking known positions of Allied supply dumps and harbours.

EDIT: Though I don't think they could have changed the course of the war much.

Jimbuna
08-27-10, 04:02 PM
One of the camp huts was devoted to models donated by enthusiasts.

Be advised....I am not a professional photographer :DL

http://img838.imageshack.us/img838/3674/p1000401x.jpg (http://img838.imageshack.us/i/p1000401x.jpg/)

http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/8779/p1000402.jpg (http://img713.imageshack.us/i/p1000402.jpg/)

http://img839.imageshack.us/img839/4451/p1000403c.jpg (http://img839.imageshack.us/i/p1000403c.jpg/)

http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/7075/p1000404.jpg (http://img841.imageshack.us/i/p1000404.jpg/)

http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/5356/p1000405y.jpg (http://img245.imageshack.us/i/p1000405y.jpg/)

http://img844.imageshack.us/img844/8797/p1000406m.jpg (http://img844.imageshack.us/i/p1000406m.jpg/)

http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/7567/p1000407m.jpg (http://img829.imageshack.us/i/p1000407m.jpg/)

http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/2112/p1000408y.jpg (http://img822.imageshack.us/i/p1000408y.jpg/)

http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/4346/p1000409w.jpg (http://img820.imageshack.us/i/p1000409w.jpg/)

http://img844.imageshack.us/img844/4366/p1000410cb.jpg (http://img844.imageshack.us/i/p1000410cb.jpg/)

http://img837.imageshack.us/img837/6771/p1000411t.jpg (http://img837.imageshack.us/i/p1000411t.jpg/)

UnderseaLcpl
08-27-10, 04:12 PM
I'm stealing some of these pics for my virtual museum, Jim. Don't try to stop me, and nobody has to get hurt. Don't be a hero.:stare:

Takeda Shingen
08-27-10, 04:13 PM
I'm stealing some of these pics for my virtual museum

Virtual museum?

Jimbuna
08-27-10, 04:17 PM
I'm stealing some of these pics for my virtual museum, Jim. Don't try to stop me, and nobody has to get hurt. Don't be a hero.:stare:

No problem James....there's still another 31 to come but they may have to wait until I get back from the Lake District.

UnderseaLcpl
08-27-10, 04:27 PM
Virtual museum?

Yeah, I copy pics from subsimmers, museum websites, friends, and anywhere else I can get them for my personal comprehensive worldwide virtual military museum. It's just a bunch of pics classified by location that I can peruse when I can't visit the actual museums/battlefields/memorials myself. Not as good as the real experience of course, but it saves film, time, and money.

Por ejemplo, I have about 500 pics from the Kubinka museum in Moscow. Never been there myself, probably won't ever get there, but I've seen most of it now, anyway.:D

No problem James....there's still another 31 to come but they may have to wait until I get back from the Lake District.

Well alright then. I'll be back for those, but easy on the flash next time please. Most of those model pics didn't make the cut.:DL

Thanks for the additions, though.

Takeda Shingen
08-27-10, 04:29 PM
Yeah, I copy pics from subsimmers, museum websites, friends, and anywhere else I can get them for my personal comprehensive worldwide virtual military museum. It's just a bunch of pics classified by location that I can peruse when I can't visit the actual museums/battlefields/memorials myself. Not as good as the real experience of course, but it saves film, time, and money.

Por ejemplo, I have about 500 pics from the Kubinka museum in Moscow. Never been there myself, probably won't ever get there, but I've seen most of it now, anyway.:D

I know what a virtual museum is, but I didn't know you made/were making one. That's cool! Would love to see it.

UnderseaLcpl
08-27-10, 05:27 PM
I know what a virtual museum is, but I didn't know you made/were making one. That's cool! Would love to see it.

And I'd love to show it and its thousands of pictures to you. The only question is how; there's a lot of pictures. You wanna come to my house?:DL

If you want pictures from a particular location, feel free to PM me and ask. My collection is far from complete, and you'll be able to find many of the pictures I have on the internet, but I'd be happy to share what I've collected.

Takeda Shingen
08-27-10, 08:41 PM
And I'd love to show it and its thousands of pictures to you. The only question is how; there's a lot of pictures. You wanna come to my house?:DL

If you want pictures from a particular location, feel free to PM me and ask. My collection is far from complete, and you'll be able to find many of the pictures I have on the internet, but I'd be happy to share what I've collected.

Ahhh. I see. I thought you were putting it online. Any chance of you uploading a few of your choice pics? It is okay if the answer is no, I just think that everyone would enjoy them. :up:

UnderseaLcpl
08-27-10, 09:01 PM
Ahhh. I see. I thought you were putting it online. Any chance of you uploading a few of your choice pics? It is okay if the answer is no, I just think that everyone would enjoy them. :up:

I guess I can pick through them and copy them to a new folder and upload them. That only leaves me with the question of which to upload. We've all seen Cavalla and Texas from the subsim events. I've got some good ones from my Ukranian stepmother, including old pics of the Lubyanka(political prison) and Soviet War memorials, some pictures of the RAF Museum at Duxford (and that flying Me-109 they used to have, before they crashed it),
Lots of stuff from the Confederate Air Force Museum, Smithsonian, Chicago Museum of Science and industry, Scottish Castles, English Forts and Ports......I think I even have some pics of that old fossil - Sailor Steve:DL

Quite a bit to sort through, but I think I'll go through them this wekend and start a museum thread for people to post pics in the coming week. The more I think about it, the more I like the idea.

Takeda Shingen
08-27-10, 09:03 PM
Cool. Still, please don't feel the need to spend your whole weekend doing that. I'd feel bad.

UnderseaLcpl
08-27-10, 09:06 PM
Cool. Still, please don't feel the need to spend your whole weekend doing that. I'd feel bad.
If you think I'd spend the whole weekend doing that, you're crazy. I have all kinds of important priorities, like beer that needs drinking. I'm just going to see if I can pencil it in and get something started.

Takeda Shingen
08-27-10, 09:08 PM
If you think I'd spend the whole weekend doing that, you're crazy. I have all kinds of important priorities, like beer that needs drinking. I'm just going to see if I can pencil it in and get something started.

I can respect a man who keeps his priorities straight. :up:

Jimbuna
09-05-10, 02:33 PM
Yeah, I copy pics from subsimmers, museum websites, friends, and anywhere else I can get them for my personal comprehensive worldwide virtual military museum. It's just a bunch of pics classified by location that I can peruse when I can't visit the actual museums/battlefields/memorials myself. Not as good as the real experience of course, but it saves film, time, and money.

Por ejemplo, I have about 500 pics from the Kubinka museum in Moscow. Never been there myself, probably won't ever get there, but I've seen most of it now, anyway.:D



Well alright then. I'll be back for those, but easy on the flash next time please. Most of those model pics didn't make the cut.:DL

Thanks for the additions, though.

More pictures from the visit...

http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/136/p1000412k.jpg (http://img833.imageshack.us/i/p1000412k.jpg/)
http://img545.imageshack.us/img545/6900/p1000413.jpg (http://img545.imageshack.us/i/p1000413.jpg/)
http://img375.imageshack.us/img375/7718/p1000414j.jpg (http://img375.imageshack.us/i/p1000414j.jpg/)
http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/534/p1000435vu.jpg (http://img27.imageshack.us/i/p1000435vu.jpg/)
http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/1722/p1000436c.jpg (http://img46.imageshack.us/i/p1000436c.jpg/)
http://img826.imageshack.us/img826/6273/p1000437.jpg (http://img826.imageshack.us/i/p1000437.jpg/)
http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/8290/p1000438p.jpg (http://img299.imageshack.us/i/p1000438p.jpg/)
http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/1874/p1000439q.jpg (http://img689.imageshack.us/i/p1000439q.jpg/)

Oberon
09-05-10, 02:38 PM
Nice T-34 :rock: That place has got a lovely set of exhibits, they've done a good job :yeah:

Herr-Berbunch
09-05-10, 03:08 PM
Lovely pics Jim.

My wife is a teacher and takes the kids there once a year - she says I'd love it but she hates it as she's seen it once or twice before, or three, or four... and she always goes in winter and it's fffffreezing!

I'll make sure I go one day though, not far for me either :D

Jimbuna
09-05-10, 03:12 PM
Nice T-34 :rock: That place has got a lovely set of exhibits, they've done a good job :yeah:

IIRC it's a T-34/85

There's still more to come :DL

Lovely pics Jim.

My wife is a teacher and takes the kids there once a year - she says I'd love it but she hates it as she's seen it once or twice before, or three, or four... and she always goes in winter and it's fffffreezing!

I'll make sure I go one day though, not far for me either :D

I know what she means, I couldn't really imagine visiting the place more than twice perhaps, unless there were additional exhibits to see.

krashkart
09-06-10, 12:18 AM
Great pics, Jim. :salute:

Jimbuna
09-06-10, 09:59 AM
Great pics, Jim. :salute:

Cheers :up:

The next lot:

http://img688.imageshack.us/img688/7525/p1000440b.jpg (http://img688.imageshack.us/i/p1000440b.jpg/)
http://img837.imageshack.us/img837/6492/p1000441.jpg (http://img837.imageshack.us/i/p1000441.jpg/)
http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/4821/p1000442.jpg (http://img831.imageshack.us/i/p1000442.jpg/)
http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/2127/p1000443.jpg (http://img812.imageshack.us/i/p1000443.jpg/)
http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/614/p1000444c.jpg (http://img153.imageshack.us/i/p1000444c.jpg/)
http://img843.imageshack.us/img843/5634/p1000445.jpg (http://img843.imageshack.us/i/p1000445.jpg/)
http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/7696/p1000446f.jpg (http://img339.imageshack.us/i/p1000446f.jpg/)

Konovalov
09-06-10, 10:13 AM
Great stuff Jim. :up:

Up yours Adolf :haha:

Oberon
09-06-10, 11:58 AM
Some nice heavy metal there Jim...is that an 88 I see in the first couple of pics? Fearsome bugger that, good bit of German ingenuity to turn a flak gun into an AT gun. :yep:

Schroeder
09-06-10, 12:06 PM
I don't think it's an 88. I think that's something British or Russian. :hmm2:

Raptor1
09-06-10, 12:10 PM
Looks like a Soviet 122mm M1931/A-19 or one of its variants.

EDIT: Ah, first couple of pictures. Need to scroll up more.

EDIT 2: I believe that might be a British QF 3.7" AA gun.

Oberon
09-06-10, 12:32 PM
Ah...yes...of course...

I was just testing you... :yep:

:damn::damn::damn::damn::damn::damn::damn::damn::d amn::damn::damn:

Jimbuna
09-06-10, 01:34 PM
Some nice heavy metal there Jim...is that an 88 I see in the first couple of pics? Fearsome bugger that, good bit of German ingenuity to turn a flak gun into an AT gun. :yep:

I don't think it's an 88. I think that's something British or Russian. :hmm2:

If your referring to the 5th and 6th pictures in #37 that is a SF11 18 150mm howitzer.

Raptor1
09-06-10, 01:37 PM
If your referring to the 5th and 6th pictures in #37 that is a SF11 18 150mm howitzer.

I think he refers to the 1st and 2nd pictures from #42.

Jimbuna
09-06-10, 02:10 PM
Looks like a Soviet 122mm M1931/A-19 or one of its variants.

EDIT: Ah, first couple of pictures. Need to scroll up more.

EDIT 2: I believe that might be a British QF 3.7" AA gun.

I think he refers to the 1st and 2nd pictures from #42.

Ah, right...if you are correct then you were spot on in your earlier post, it is indeed the QF 3.7" (94mm) AA gun, the British equivalent to the German 88mm but only used in the anti tank role in emergencies because of its heavier weight, longer setting up time and the fact the Matador vehicle pulling it could only operate on firm ground.

Gerald
09-06-10, 02:52 PM
Ah, right...if you are correct then you were spot on in your earlier post, it is indeed the QF 3.7" (94mm) AA gun, the British equivalent to the German 88mm but only used in the anti tank role in emergencies because of its heavier weight, longer setting up time and the fact the Matador vehicle pulling it could only operate on firm ground.

:hmmm:

Raptor1
09-06-10, 02:58 PM
It entered service in 1937.

Gerald
09-06-10, 03:00 PM
It entered service in 1937. :up:

Jimbuna
09-06-10, 03:00 PM
It entered service in 1937.

And was retired in 1959 :DL

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QF_3.7_inch_AA_gun

Gerald
09-06-10, 03:03 PM
And was retired in 1959 :DL

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QF_3.7_inch_AA_gun :roll:

Jimbuna
09-07-10, 08:40 AM
These are pictures from a hut that was intended to resemble the inside of a U-boat during a depth charge attack.

The eye to detail was quite poor IMHO but the soundtrack was quite remarkable/authentic.

http://img844.imageshack.us/img844/1151/p1000420z.jpg (http://img844.imageshack.us/i/p1000420z.jpg/)
http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/6586/p1000421x.jpg (http://img517.imageshack.us/i/p1000421x.jpg/)
http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/9537/p1000422k.jpg (http://img202.imageshack.us/i/p1000422k.jpg/)
http://img203.imageshack.us/img203/8361/p1000424ax.jpg (http://img203.imageshack.us/i/p1000424ax.jpg/)
http://img541.imageshack.us/img541/2487/p1000425q.jpg (http://img541.imageshack.us/i/p1000425q.jpg/)
http://img827.imageshack.us/img827/2604/p1000426f.jpg (http://img827.imageshack.us/i/p1000426f.jpg/)
http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/6421/p1000427n.jpg (http://img710.imageshack.us/i/p1000427n.jpg/)
http://img816.imageshack.us/img816/8753/p1000428.jpg (http://img816.imageshack.us/i/p1000428.jpg/)
http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/1666/p1000429m.jpg (http://img819.imageshack.us/i/p1000429m.jpg/)
http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/629/p1000430z.jpg (http://img405.imageshack.us/i/p1000430z.jpg/)
http://img409.imageshack.us/img409/6634/p1000431.jpg (http://img409.imageshack.us/i/p1000431.jpg/)
http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/6336/p1000433y.jpg (http://img191.imageshack.us/i/p1000433y.jpg/)
http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/7090/p1000434do.jpg (http://img97.imageshack.us/i/p1000434do.jpg/)

STEED
09-07-10, 11:03 AM
Nice pics jim. :up:

Jimbuna
09-07-10, 01:28 PM
Nice pics jim. :up:

Danke http://www.psionguild.org/forums/images/smilies/wolfsmilies/thumbsup.gif

Gerald
09-07-10, 01:34 PM
Thanks Jim! :DL

Jimbuna
09-07-10, 02:47 PM
Final picture, the bus I drove them to the museum in....notice the Green Goddess being spray painted in the background :DL

http://img843.imageshack.us/img843/7840/p1000447n.jpg (http://img843.imageshack.us/i/p1000447n.jpg/)

Gerald
09-07-10, 02:51 PM
:up:

Jimbuna
09-07-10, 05:54 PM
Your welcome http://www.psionguild.org/forums/images/smilies/wolfsmilies/thumbsup.gif

Wolfehunter
09-08-10, 06:33 AM
Amazing stuff thanks for showing it. :yeah:

Oberon
09-08-10, 06:54 AM
They don't make appliances like that any more Jim. I miss the old Bedford styles. I wonder if my grandfather ever used a Green Goddess.

Herr-Berbunch
09-08-10, 07:53 AM
A selfless bit of advertising for your mates transport :D

I've been in a Green Goddess during the firemen's strike in about 2003, although it wasn't green at that time, horrible horrible things! Luckily I was only getting a lift to the mess in it. For the actual strike I was called for I was fortunate enough to be driving a crew-cabbed Transit flat bed with a BA crew/kit - I think the GG was only there to remind us just how bad it could've been! :yep: Strike got cancelled before it started, I was quite looking forward to it - covering the N. Wales coast.

On another totally separate point (almost), the RAF BD monument - I've worked with guys from 5131 BD Sqn - they are embarrassed when called out as they have the 'blues-and-twos' blaring away but the law doesn't allow them to disobey any traffic signals! So imagine a crossroads with traffic lights, everybody stops for them and then gets so pee'd off that they don't move :nope:. It just isn't right - welcome to the UK - once home to the world's common sense :oops:

Jimbuna
09-08-10, 09:52 AM
The Police are also not automatically allowed to ignore the highway code and do such at their own risk.

If an accident occurs as a result of non-adherence they also run the risk of prosecution.

Their standing orders are that they can drive fast etc. if doing otherwise would hinder their response or impede their effectiveness to answer an emergency.

At all times the driver can be held responsible for any consequences coming about as a result of driving outside of the parameters of the highway code.

Oberon
09-08-10, 09:52 AM
Ha, isn't that just typical Berbunch, I didn't know that but I'm hardly surprised, some of our regulations are so stupid you really would think it's a joke but sadly it's not.
To be fair on the GGs though, they were meant for the post-apocalyptic wasteland Britain (or Deptford on a Friday...heck...on ANY night...or day :haha:) so I guess the ride quality would suffer a bit :haha:
Still, a reminder of what firefighters of the past had to use to deal with the fires they fought and the accidents they attended.

Herr-Berbunch
09-08-10, 10:00 AM
The Police are also not automatically allowed to ignore the highway code and do such at their own risk.


My understanding was that red lights were to be treated as give ways, but I could be well off the mark here and talking my usual :yawn::yawn:cks. It's still embarrassing for the lads (and lasses) to just sit there till the green light.

@Oberon - I've never been to Deptford, but I'm guessing it's like most British towns on a Friday night, full of sober gentlemen escorting their ladyfriends home from an evening at the theatre :hmmm:

Jimbuna
09-08-10, 11:33 AM
I had one colleague go through a red light with blues and twos switched on who collided with a motorist conforming to the green light....the injury to the motorist was minor whiplash, my colleague was 'grounded/foot patrol' for 6 months but warned/advised anything approaching a serious injury to the motorist could have resulted in prosecution then disciplinary.

Herr-Berbunch
09-08-10, 02:08 PM
Makes it worse when you read that things like that are responding to hoax calls! :nope:

Jimbuna
09-08-10, 02:32 PM
Makes it worse when you read that things like that are responding to hoax calls! :nope:

Very true mate but there is also the other side of the coin where patrol vehicles have been driven recklessly it could be argued and deaths have ensued.

I've seen more than my fair share of John Waynes in my time http://www.psionguild.org/forums/images/smilies/wolfsmilies/wolfcop.gif