Incoming student mindset...

[SteamWake]

A small university prepareas a 'report' to try to guide teachers as to what to expect from a students 'mindset'.

The report is actually pretty good and will make more than one of you feel just a little bit older. :|\\

Email?? pffft thats so 10's ;)

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20100817/D9HL65T80.html

[TLAM Strike]

74. They’ve always been able to blast off with the Sci-Fi Channel.

Correction, they can't remember when the Sci-Fi channel was good!. :haha:

[SteamWake]

Heh you have a point.

I guess I overlooked posting the actual list.

http://www.beloit.edu/mindset/2014.php

[Ducimus]

college freshmen born mostly in 1992.

Christ! Really? I graduated High school and enlisted in that year. Ok... NOW i feel old.

[SteamWake]

Christ! Really? I graduated High school and enlisted in that year. Ok... NOW i feel old.

Ugh... now your making me feel even older :88)

[August]

Christ! Really? I graduated High school and enlisted in that year. Ok... NOW i feel old.


You feel old? That's the year I turned 32 years old.

[nikimcbee]

You feel old? That's the year I turned 32 years old.

But that's not Sailor Steve old, Remember the Gettysburg Address? Steve was there.:haha:

[Ducimus]

You feel old? That's the year I turned 32 years old.

You know there was a time when i hated being the young pup. :haha:

[GoldenRivet]

At the ripe old age of 31 i just discussed this with one of my 17 year old students.

he thought the topic was interesting and mostly factual.

we agreed that it would be interesting to see what the "gap" was like between him when he reaches his 30s and the generation of those kids who are only 1 or 2 years old today.

[UnderseaLcpl]

I'd like to see a report on the increasingly unionized, federally funded, and ineffectual teacher mindset myself. I've only been out of high school for a decade and I can literally see students becoming stupider; at least in this state. Don't take my word for it, look at the released questions for the TAKS test - http://www.tea.state.tx.us/index3.aspx?id=44&menu_id3=793
This is a standard for state academic assessment!? Really? This ****e is worse than the TAAS that preceded it and that test was, I'm convinced, made for "special needs" students. What, exactly, is a professor going to do with a student who does anything other than make a mockery of these tests? I hope their understanding of students' mindsets can overcome at least four years' worth of substandard education.

[August]

You know there was a time when i hated being the young pup. :haha:

Yeah me too. How quickly time changes our feelings about that!

[Sledgehammer427]

1992? I didn't have a grasp of the english language or how to use the bathroom by myself...I was 1 year old.

That being said, I feel far more mature than my High school alumnus.

EDIT: I also had an original Macintosh computer when I was growing up. played my first subsim on that thing.

[SteamWake]

1992? I didn't have a grasp of the english language or how to use the bathroom by myself...I was 1 year old.

That being said, I feel far more mature than my High school alumnus.

EDIT: I also had an original Macintosh computer when I was growing up. played my first subsim on that thing.

Yea but do you wear a wristwatch?

[Zachstar]

But that's not Sailor Steve old, Remember the Gettysburg Address? Steve was there.:haha:

Ouch! Burn!!!!

Trying to predict a young person's mindset... HA good luck. In my high school days mindsets were more different than apples and oranges.

[The Third Man]

1992? OMG the internet for all didn't exist then. I'm not even sure Al Gore had even invented it yet. lol


Who remembers the first two numbers of your phone number being a word? That's how old I feel.

The one I remember was CHanel 7-6013

[Sledgehammer427]

Yea but do you wear a wristwatch?

used to, but a healthy mix of bodybuilding and farm work made it impractical

[The Third Man]

used to, but a healthy mix of bodybuilding and farm work made it impractical

What part of Illinois? Along the river I'm sure but are you close to Hannibal, Mo?

[Sledgehammer427]

not to hijack the thread, I'm in NW Illinois, about an hour away from the Miss and about 3 away from Chicago.

[Sailor Steve]

Christ! Really? I graduated High school and enlisted in that year. Ok... NOW i feel old.
So, you were born the year I got married. I'm glad you feel so old.

@ Nikimcbee: The funny thing is that that joke is even older than me. It's about time it was buried, like any other bone.

[Betonov]

used to, but a healthy mix of bodybuilding and farm work made it impractical
bigger watch band, or watch belt, the leather/metal thing that goes around your wrist so the watch stays on. Take your girlfriends waist belt if there's nothing your size and improvise

1992, the year I started grammar school

[SteamWake]

One thing that really jumped out at me was that it was pointed out to the teachers that some of the students will not know how to read or write cursive :o

Just what DO they teach in schools these days??

[Sledgehammer427]

We were taught to write cursive in 4th grade here, but nobody seemed to care whether or not we used it. So my cursive disintegrated (I always took learning to write it as an insult anyways) and my "plain" writing improved. Another reason the teachers didn't care much, I'm guessing they were at the point they just wanted to be able to read what the students were writing.

As for school curricula...:shifty:

bigger watch band, or watch belt, the leather/metal thing that goes around your wrist so the watch stays on. Take your girlfriends waist belt if there's nothing your size and improvise

Surely. Until you smash the crystal working on one of the tractors or what have you. My dad and I both have a history of doing such things.

[Lord_magerius]

We suffer from the same problem Sledgehammer, I think the medical term for it is clumsybastarditis though more commonly known as "oh for f...." syndrome. :O:

[krashkart]

Yea but do you wear a wristwatch?

Remember when calculators were miniaturized enough to where they could fit into a wristwatch? Everybody had to have one of those. :haha:

[Betonov]

They started teaching us english in 4th grade, german in 6th

[papa_smurf]

Quote:
Originally Posted by SteamWake http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/smartdark/viewpost.gif (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?p=1470545#post1470545)
Yea but do you wear a wristwatch?

Remember when calculators were miniaturized enough to where they could fit into a wristwatch? Everybody had to have one of those. :haha:

Unfortunately, I DO remember those.

[TLAM Strike]

They started teaching us english in 4th grade, german in 6th

Unfortunately they have yet to begin teaching English over here... :O:

[CCIP]

I may not be as old as some of you, but this gives me all the more reason to worry, seeing how unlike most in the thread my job is actually teaching these suckers :dead:

What frustrates me most, and is not really mentioned here, is two major attitude problems towards college education that you see in young students:

1) An education is a product. You have to get what you pay for.
2) College? More like High School 2.0

Both of make teaching these kids a real pain in the ass.

[Platapus]

1992?

I was underground in Omaha Nebraska, going toe-to-toe with the Russkies in a never ending battle for truth, justice, or the American way (I gets confused sometimes). I was hunting what was euphemistically called "relocatable targets" back then. It was the most lethal game of hide and seek. :yeah:

[Platapus]

One thing that really jumped out at me was that it was pointed out to the teachers that some of the students will not know how to read or write cursive :o

Just what DO they teach in schools these days??


I think they teach keyboarding, which is a fancy term for what they called in my day "Typing".

How many of us old guys ever write in cursive? I know that I sometimes curse in my writing, but I can't remember the last time I ever wrote in cursive or a situation where it would be necessary to write in cursive.

Perhaps it is a good thing that this "technology" is being dropped?

[frau kaleun]

I think they teach keyboarding, which is a fancy term for what they called in my day "Typing".

How many of us old guys ever write in cursive? I know that I sometimes curse in my writing, but I can't remember the last time I ever wrote in cursive or a situation where it would be necessary to write in cursive.

Perhaps it is a good thing that this "technology" is being dropped?

We were still taught cursive through grade school when I was there... and I remained a fair writer in same, when I took the time to do it "right." But by the end of grade school I had developed my own handwriting style which was a mix of cursive and print, depending on which got stuff on the page faster. I expect a lot of people did the same. By high school pretty much everything that involved major amounts of writing had to be turned in as a typewritten document anyway. Writing by hand was pretty much limited to answers on tests and overnight homework.

Now with the advent of the personal computer, I can say with no hesitation that my handwriting has deteriorated to the point that I am perfectly capable of scribbling down something in a hurry that even I can't read if I come across it again after having forgotten what I was scribbling about in the first place. Consequently when I have to write a note out by hand - which happens lot at work, Post-its being a primary means of interoffice communication on various documents that have to pass from person to person to person to person and back again - I make myself write it out in (mostly) block letters to ensure that it's legible to anyone who has to read it.

[SteamWake]

Kind of a shame really handwrighting is an art.

I used to work as a draftsmen before the days of autocad, one of the most sought out traits was 'lettering' the ability to hand wright text that could be read by all.

It took hours of study and years of practice to be even halfway decent.

To this day unless I am purposely 'lettering' my cursive is more legible than my block letters.

Kind of curious when you think about it how the computer has crushed an art form.

But how do kids take notes in class these days?

[TLAM Strike]

Kind of a shame really handwrighting is an art.

In the case of people like Frau Kaleun and me an abstract art. :03:

My hand writing is horrible, print or those squiggly letters for making 'yas mark. Both are indecipherable.

It is so bad that back in high school they had to let me use a computer to write out any essay questions on tests. Actually I got good at typing, and I plan on buying a laptop for note taking when I go back to school.

[Sledgehammer427]

But how do kids take notes in class these days?

OH! OHHH! I got this!

I slept. my mind is far more receptive to lessons when I'm not using it to be cynical.
When I actually took notes (between naps and walking from nap room to nap room...ehem, classroom..)
Note taking has become kind of an art form in itself. you get the time to read the powerpoint slide, then an equal amount of time, about 15-45 seconds, to write it all down. usually smashing a few words onto a couple lines in your notebook as quickly as possible.
I usually gave up and slept. I am a better reader/listener than I am a note taker.

[razark]

I used to work as a draftsmen before the days of autocad, one of the most sought out traits was 'lettering' the ability to hand wright text that could be read by all.

It took hours of study and years of practice to be even halfway decent.
The office I work in shares space with the department that maintains the engineering drawings for all buildings on site, as well as a large amount of other hardware (it's amazing what can be considered a drawing, sometimes). One day when I had not much else to do, I opened up one of their drawers, pulled out a stack of early to mid 60s vintage, and looked through them. It looked like pretty standard stuff, much like I saw on their computers.

And then I took a second look, and it hit me. They were done by hand! Holy crap! The precision of the lettering and the drawings was amazing. It really is a lost art, and I really do mean art.

[Platapus]

Now with the advent of the personal computer, I can say with no hesitation that my handwriting has deteriorated to the point that I am perfectly capable of scribbling down something in a hurry that even I can't read if I come across it again after having forgotten what I was scribbling about in the first place. Consequently when I have to write a note out by hand - which happens lot at work, Post-its being a primary means of interoffice communication on various documents that have to pass from person to person to person to person and back again - I make myself write it out in (mostly) block letters to ensure that it's legible to anyone who has to read it.

I am with you on this. Back in my IBM Selectric 2 days, I was known to type my post-it notes if it was important.

[Tchocky]

Had to think back to my days in an LA elementary school to remember what "cursive" means :D The word doesn't quite exist over here.

There's no real distinction in Irish schools, if your handwriting is legible then keep on truckin'. Mine is admittedly horrid when writing up notes for myself, but I can usually put in the effort for something important.

I'm pretty much back in school at my current job, a paycheck really helps the study go down :D