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fastfed
08-16-10, 01:15 PM
I played this for the first week and was pissed I wasted the money.. I'm a huge fan of SH, from part 1-3 and even enjoyed part 4.

But this game was a disaster!! I was told to "allow the modders to fix it"

Has anything changed for the better? For people that really like a Simulator??

Thanks all!

SteamWake
08-16-10, 01:41 PM
No its exactly the same :doh:

Except for the hundreds of mods and the patch. ;)

Hartmann
08-16-10, 03:22 PM
No itīs the same, Stock sh5 its like a shooter but with battleships and carriers with a dumb IA

With mods is a lot better and more simulator, Ia reacts,wolfpacks, interface changes..and more.

fastfed
08-16-10, 03:27 PM
Ok well, then I will rephrase the question.

With Mods (there were none when I first got it, obviously) is SH5 any better?

I am looking for a major change with many things.. Like SH3 have Grey Wolves, anything like that for SH5? An all in one download? If so or if not where do I start? Thanks All!

THE_MASK
08-16-10, 04:41 PM
Generic Mod Enabler - v2.5.0.150
[C:\Ubisoft\Silent Hunter 5\MODS]
Accurate German Flags
Grossdeutscher Rundfunk
RemoveLogoIntroTheDarkWraith
SD_MapCourseLine_tiny_arrows_ocred
Loading Screens Mod 2.0
Lite Campaign LC 1.2
Sh5EnvModGold
sobers base wave mechanics for SH5 v3
AilClouds 3.0
AilMoon 1.5
No Damn Bubbles, No Damn Halo Mod
NDB,NDH OM#1 - No Dialog Indicator
No magic skills v1.5
No Ship Wakes 1.2
Shadow Improvement Mod
sobers multi color mod
sobers no footstep sound mod
sobers silent hud
sobers hyrophone fix
NewUIs_TDC_4_0_3_ByTheDarkWraith
MRP 1.3
MRP 16x9 patch
NewUIs_TDC_4_0_3_No_Hydrophone_On_Surface
NewUIs_TDC_4_0_3_Sub_Warship_Merchant_Same_Shape
NewUIs_TDC_4_0_3_Waypoint_Contacts_Same_Shape_No_C olor
IRAI_0_0_18_ByTheDarkWraith
Capthelms SH5 Audio Mod
North Atlantic Green 1.1
sobers 100% underwater FX

oscar19681
08-16-10, 04:47 PM
I,ve been away myself for a while. Checked the mods forum. Lots of mods but nothing really ground breaking . Many new versions of existing mods and some new small mods. But no stuff like GWX or modified interieur (exept for paintjobs), New ships , complete 3-d crew , corrected wardroom or external u-boat model mods (Correct Viib comes to mind) or band at base and more life in general for the base are nowhere to be seen.

THE_MASK
08-16-10, 04:53 PM
User interface like sh3/4
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=166093
Better AI than sh3/4 ever could dream about .
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=171973
Gets rid of the silly magic skills.
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=164996
Great radio mod.
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=165053
Realistic hydrophone operator.
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/downloads.php?do=file&id=2767
Environment mod.
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/downloads.php?do=file&id=1853
Cloud,rain,moon mods.
http://www.shmods.ailantd.com/
Audio mod.
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/downloads.php?do=file&id=1570
Graphics mod.
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=171415

M1Thompson
08-16-10, 04:57 PM
Ok well, then I will rephrase the question.

With Mods (there were none when I first got it, obviously) is SH5 any better?

I am looking for a major change with many things.. Like SH3 have Grey Wolves, anything like that for SH5? An all in one download? If so or if not where do I start? Thanks All!

i just made a huge sound mod that replaces over 70 of the boring stock sounds with new realistic ones:ping:
here is the link

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?p=1468596#post1468596

hope you enjoy :yeah:

fastfed
08-16-10, 04:59 PM
Thanks Oscar, I agree, unless its something like GWX, this game is doomed..

All these small little small mods that you have to install are doing nothing much to improve this game..

I thought for sure there would be a major improvement.. but it doesn't look like it yet.. I'll give it another 3 or so months and check back, other wise, what could of been a great game, will finally go in the garbage!

Takeda Shingen
08-16-10, 05:04 PM
All these small little small mods that you have to install are doing nothing much to improve this game..

That's pretty insulting to the modders that do all the work; something I'm sure they'll keep in mind the next time you come back to seek their help.

Will-Rommel
08-16-10, 05:28 PM
Good call Takeda, just what i tought. :salute:

Arclight
08-16-10, 05:29 PM
That's pretty insulting to the modders that do all the work; something I'm sure they'll keep in mind the next time you come back to seek their help.
Actually, it's really hard remembering. Just too many of them. :lol:

Takeda Shingen
08-16-10, 05:53 PM
Actually, it's really hard remembering. Just too many of them. :lol:

Don't worry, I'm keeping a crib sheet. :O:

CaptainMattJ.
08-16-10, 06:20 PM
what he needs and what we all need is a supermod. TMO for SH5. thatd be groundbreaking.

Ducimus
08-16-10, 06:39 PM
TMO for SH5.


http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t236/lilbluedog/celeb/jack/Jack5.jpg

CaptainMattJ.
08-16-10, 07:48 PM
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t236/lilbluedog/celeb/jack/Jack5.jpg
:rotfl2: theres always a picture

DelphiUniverse
08-16-10, 08:45 PM
Thanks Oscar, I agree, unless its something like GWX, this game is doomed..

All these small little small mods that you have to install are doing nothing much to improve this game..

I thought for sure there would be a major improvement.. but it doesn't look like it yet.. I'll give it another 3 or so months and check back, other wise, what could of been a great game, will finally go in the garbage!

The contents is not the biggest issue atm. We need to get a working game first. I have alot of bugs I want to report to ubi. I did that before 1.2 patch came, they dont seem very interested btw. Maybe they are lazy, I don't know.

It would be cool to edit those .ogg files and add in some silent hunter 2 music into the game. That would be a cool mod to begin with.

Something like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OljrK0sptWs

I would also favor changing some of the sound in game. Many of the sounds are very annoying.

Krauter
08-16-10, 09:19 PM
Thanks Oscar, I agree, unless its something like GWX, this game is doomed..

All these small little small mods that you have to install are doing nothing much to improve this game..

I thought for sure there would be a major improvement.. but it doesn't look like it yet.. I'll give it another 3 or so months and check back, other wise, what could of been a great game, will finally go in the garbage!

Well then.. I guess you should run back to SH3 like all the others that bash this game and all the work the Modders have put into it.. Honestly the amount of negativity that this game recieves :stare:..

If all of that went into actually working on Mods and utilities to work with GR2 files (as privateer is doing) then the game would probably skyrocket.

Just so I don't have to say I told you so when SH5 blows you all away.. HAR HAR :D

Cheers,

Krauter

Moeceefus
08-16-10, 09:26 PM
Thanks Oscar, I agree, unless its something like GWX, this game is doomed..

All these small little small mods that you have to install are doing nothing much to improve this game..

I thought for sure there would be a major improvement.. but it doesn't look like it yet.. I'll give it another 3 or so months and check back, other wise, what could of been a great game, will finally go in the garbage!


You obviously have no idea what you are talking about.

robbo180265
08-16-10, 10:56 PM
Thanks Oscar, I agree, unless its something like GWX, this game is doomed..

All these small little small mods that you have to install are doing nothing much to improve this game..

I thought for sure there would be a major improvement.. but it doesn't look like it yet.. I'll give it another 3 or so months and check back, other wise, what could of been a great game, will finally go in the garbage!

Way to go - how to belittle all the hard work done by the modders so far.

Are you aware of how long this game has been available?

Are you aware of how long it took for a supermod to be developed for SH3?

Somehow I doubt it.....

I'm goin' down
08-17-10, 03:15 AM
I will nominate Post 15 for the SH5 funniest post when Mod of the Year nominations are tabled. Ducimus knows a softball when he sees it.

raven1309
08-17-10, 03:30 AM
My son was watching me play sh5 the other night when he seen my mod list he seriously asked if there was anything left of the original game:haha:
To all the moders keep up the good work much appreciated :salute::yeah:

Venatore
08-17-10, 04:21 AM
I was told to "allow the modders to fix it"

All these small little small mods that you have to install are doing nothing much to improve this game..

Do me a favour mate ....... cancel your Subsim account :yawn:

Moderators please sink this thread.

Sailor Steve
08-17-10, 07:25 AM
Thanks Oscar, I agree, unless its something like GWX, this game is doomed..

All these small little small mods that you have to install are doing nothing much to improve this game..

I thought for sure there would be a major improvement.. but it doesn't look like it yet.. I'll give it another 3 or so months and check back, other wise, what could of been a great game, will finally go in the garbage!
Or start learning how to do it yourself. If everybody who whined about how the modders (who work for free out of their love for the game) had let them down and started to learn how hard it is, maybe things would get done faster.

Nemesis1024
08-17-10, 10:52 AM
Or start learning how to do it yourself. If everybody who whined about how the modders (who work for free out of their love for the game) had let them down and started to learn how hard it is, maybe things would get done faster.


Couldn't have put it better myself m8 :yeah:

I know my account with subsim is new and all but after playing the mods for SH3 and 4 I have to say that I love the work these guys put into improving the game.

Keep up the good work peeps, your modding is more than welcomed by those who appreciate your efforts :)

DelphiUniverse
08-17-10, 11:15 AM
Mods are nice. But some modders tend to like putting the old fashional button-menu from sh3 into sh5 so that you can "warp" to deck, back to the sub, to the periscope etc.

I don't favor such buttons, it removes realism. In world war 2 you didnt have buttons to magically warp to the position you need to be. It's not how it worked back then.

You had to use your feet to walk down the latter and up the latter, bending down between hatches and stuff. Warp-buttons does not add to realism. It removes realism and is cheating in highest form.

Other than that, mods are nice.:salute:

Krauter
08-17-10, 11:28 AM
Mods are nice. But some modders tend to like putting the old fashional button-menu from sh3 into sh5 so that you can "warp" to deck, back to the sub, to the periscope etc.

I don't favor such buttons, it removes realism. In world war 2 you didnt have buttons to magically warp to the position you need to be. It's not how it worked back then.

You had to use your feet to walk down the latter and up the latter, bending down between hatches and stuff. Warp-buttons does not add to realism. It removes realism and is cheating in highest form.

Other than that, mods are nice.:salute:

TDWs Mod has different Options..

fastfed
08-17-10, 02:02 PM
OK!!! First off you all took what I said wrong..

I think anyone that does things for free deserve much more than "props" or "good job"

Its actually the opposite.. I think the modders are GOD! I already admitted I Loved GWX for SH3!
I remember when we all talked about how horrible SH5 when we all just got it. We all hoped Modders were going to revive this game one day.. All I am saying, except for small stuff here and there, not much has changed.. In terms of GWX for SH3.

I am sure they will be able to do it, maybe not, from what I remember a modder saying it was impossible for a GWX in SH5?

fastfed
08-17-10, 02:07 PM
OK.. After looking at the TONS of mods for this game just now.. Im gonna try it..

Anyone have a list of the best mods? Or "Must Have Mods"
I see there is so many I wouldn't know where to start, lol

Thanks!

Krauter
08-17-10, 02:08 PM
All these small little small mods that you have to install are doing *NOTHING* much to improve this game..!

I'm not disputing the fact that you may or may not approve of Mods nor how you view them in this forum. What I see as unnacceptable and very rude is the fact that a Mod needs to be 'large' or 'super' to contribute to this game.

ANY Mod, Large or Small brings this game, and SH3 or 4 for that matter, closer to what the game should have been and to what the community wants the game to be.

The simple fact that you state these small little Mods are doing Nothing Much to improve the game is a slap in the face to a Modder. All Modders start off somewhere. If you've just shunned the work of a beginner Modder who has released something not ground breaking, but at least improves the game a little bit, you've just given him a reason to quit. Like we all say Modders are people who work for free, out of their love for the game and the happiness it brings them.

Shunning their work may not stop them from creating Mods but it may stop them from releasing those mods, however small, to the community.

Thanks.

A little respect is all that's needed in this world


If you want a list of respected Mods or "must have's" go to the Mod Loadout/Order thread (or something along those lines) there is a lot of good information in there

Cheers,

Krauter

longam
08-17-10, 03:44 PM
If you look at what is under the hood of sh5 you'll see its there just need turned on or fixed or scripted. SH5 release state doesn't represent the games potential at all.

In time we'll be huging our sh5 boxes saying I'm going back to SH5 "SuperModName" because SH7 is crap, or what ever the game of the year is. :D

Nisgeis
08-17-10, 03:51 PM
If you look at what is under the hood of sh5 you'll see its there just need turned on or fixed or scripted.

That was dangerously close to a car anaology. :DL.

CaptainMattJ.
08-17-10, 04:17 PM
I will nominate Post 15 for the SH5 funniest post when Mod of the Year nominations are tabled. Ducimus knows a softball when he sees it.

of course you choose the post that bashes me. still its funny though. looks like my half sisters father

CaptainMattJ.
08-17-10, 04:21 PM
OK.. After looking at the TONS of mods for this game just now.. Im gonna try it..

Anyone have a list of the best mods? Or "Must Have Mods"
I see there is so many I wouldn't know where to start, lol

Thanks!

TheDarkWraiths Multi UI mod. must have. and due to the REDICULOUS spawn times and how it takes 6 months to find 1 type of ship, i suggest using Lite Campaign. And depending on whether or not you like the fact that 1 torpedo rarely kills anything but a destroyer and under, critical hit torpedoes arent bad either. although sometimes you can kill a little too easy, so you know it up to you.

robbo180265
08-17-10, 04:26 PM
TheDarkWraiths Multi UI mod. must have. and dueto the REDICULOUS spawn times and how it takes 6 months to find 1 type of ship, i suggest using Lite Campaign. And depending on whether or not you like the fact that 1 torpedo rarely kills anything but a destroyer and under, critical hit torpedoes arent bad either. although sometimes you can kill a little too easy, so you know it up to you.

The only thing I'd add to that is TDW's Ai mod, which rocks:up:

CaptainMattJ.
08-17-10, 04:29 PM
I'm not disputing the fact that you may or may not approve of Mods nor how you view them in this forum. What I see as unnacceptable and very rude is the fact that a Mod needs to be 'large' or 'super' to contribute to this game.

ANY Mod, Large or Small brings this game, and SH3 or 4 for that matter, closer to what the game should have been and to what the community wants the game to be.

The simple fact that you state these small little Mods are doing Nothing Much to improve the game is a slap in the face to a Modder. All Modders start off somewhere. If you've just shunned the work of a beginner Modder who has released something not ground breaking, but at least improves the game a little bit, you've just given him a reason to quit. Like we all say Modders are people who work for free, out of their love for the game and the happiness it brings them.

Shunning their work may not stop them from creating Mods but it may stop them from releasing those mods, however small, to the community.

Thanks.

A little respect is all that's needed in this world


If you want a list of respected Mods or "must have's" go to the Mod Loadout/Order thread (or something along those lines) there is a lot of good information in there

Cheers,

Krauter

nicely said, and the game could be pretty much flawless and there would still be mods. too add onto and improve it. theres no full potential for any game that can be modded, because people like it differently, play differently, and that what mods are all about. improving the game on a PERSONAL level. many people can like the same thing, which is the main reason modders make it, but also to personalize that one group who maybe doesnt want more realism/ wants to see what it would be like to drop a nuclear torpedo in a large convoy. and theres always going to be people who like it differently. and after the modders have squelched all big requests they start going down and down until their making mods for single people's requests and whoever else who wants to try it.. so technically a game can never reach full potential, as this is an opinion. also why they made multiple SH4 supermods cause not everyone wanted to use TMO or wanted to use RFB.


p.s: sorry for posting so much in this thread :salute:

longam
08-17-10, 05:22 PM
That was dangerously close to a car anaology. :DL.

Yea, just trying not to say what has been said a thousand times before.

Moeceefus
08-17-10, 06:49 PM
OK!!! First off you all took what I said wrong..

I think anyone that does things for free deserve much more than "props" or "good job"

Its actually the opposite.. I think the modders are GOD! I already admitted I Loved GWX for SH3!
I remember when we all talked about how horrible SH5 when we all just got it. We all hoped Modders were going to revive this game one day.. All I am saying, except for small stuff here and there, not much has changed.. In terms of GWX for SH3.

I am sure they will be able to do it, maybe not, from what I remember a modder saying it was impossible for a GWX in SH5?


**** GWX! Get over it already. The modders have made SH5 a joy and continue to improve it. You'd know if you played it instead of the usual blind bashing that goes on here.

Ducimus
08-17-10, 08:28 PM
I find myself musing at how funny it is that some people expect some good samaritan to fix all the games problems for them, and then hand them the fix on a silver platter, for absolutely free. Some of these same people will, later on, turn around and bitch about it because it doesn't meet their personal wants in the game, and how that SoanSo could have done a better.

I love that ****. Truly I do. :shifty:

Krauter
08-17-10, 08:37 PM
I find myself musing at how funny it is that some people expect some good samaritan to fix all the games problems for them, and then hand them the fix on a silver platter, for absolutely free. Some of these same people will, later on, turn around and bitch about it because it doesn't meet their personal wants in the game, and how that SoanSo could have done a better.

I love that ****. Truly I do. :shifty:

Lol, exactly the same reason I tell ppl who whine to quit being a little sissy and start modding out the problems you whine so much about

Nisgeis
08-18-10, 02:12 AM
Just look at SteelViking. He wasn't happy with the state of the game and decided to start modding and look at all the great things he's released in such a short time that enhance the game no end. My utmost respect to SteelViking for doing that :salute:, if only there were more like him.

McBeck
08-18-10, 07:45 AM
p.s: sorry for posting so much in this thread :salute:
No need to appologize :D

Galanti
08-18-10, 01:09 PM
I popped in here after taking a few months off from the SH franchise and was struck by the same thing as the OP. I can see the tremendous improvement to the core gameplay through new UIs, AI, interiors, etc., but I suppose I'm more disheartened by the lack of any progress in improving the campaign or adding to the pitifully short roster of merchant shipping.

Krauter
08-18-10, 01:15 PM
What people either fail to realize, or choose to ignore, is that for the 'pitifully short merchant roster', which I agree is completely lacking, is set as it is until privateer finishes his object importer.

Privateer has made a ton of headway in giving us the ability to create and import objects into the submarine and game. As for the campaign, I too am surprised at the amount of work that could be done. Albeit, I would try to fix it but I would probably do more damage anything (a la Ubisoft :O:)

Cheers,

Krauter

Takeda Shingen
08-18-10, 01:28 PM
Patience is very much a necessary trait for both submarine commanders and submarine simulation enthusiasts.

Krauter
08-18-10, 01:29 PM
^

Agreed

Galanti
08-18-10, 01:35 PM
Patience is very much a necessary trait for both submarine commanders and submarine simulation enthusiasts.

Absolutely correct, and I'm still learning from my four-year-old.

voss
08-18-10, 02:16 PM
Patience is very much a necessary trait for both submarine commanders and submarine simulation enthusiasts.
Truer words have never been spoken! :rock:

SteelViking
08-18-10, 04:28 PM
Just look at SteelViking. He wasn't happy with the state of the game and decided to start modding and look at all the great things he's released in such a short time that enhance the game no end. My utmost respect to SteelViking for doing that :salute:, if only there were more like him.

Wow, thanks Nisgeis. You are one of the people that actually saved SH5 for me in the first place. I was about to shelve it, but then you came out with your U-Boat Killer mod. My first real DCing(actually got damaged) in SH5 happened right after installing your mod, and it made me change my mind. It also helped me realize that there was potential in SH5 to become great. Needless to say, having you praise my work means a lot.

So, thank you, in more ways than one.:salute:

McBeck
08-19-10, 08:25 AM
Im very close to starting SH5 again :D

Barso
08-19-10, 01:11 PM
I had already uninstalled SH5 and shelved it.
I then read about TDW's IRAI mod and I now constantly play SH5 with TDW's, mods and slot of others installed and I can't believe how much this game has improved.
I will not be uninstalling SH5 in the future.
I can remember posting about how much of a dissappoinment SH5 was when released and refusing to admit this game could be saved by the modders, apologies to all who I offended because the modders are saving this game and I am now eating humble pie with egg on my face.

longam
08-19-10, 06:43 PM
I had already uninstalled SH5 and shelved it.
I then read about TDW's IRAI mod and I now constantly play SH5 with TDW's, mods and slot of others installed and I can't believe how much this game has improved.
I will not be uninstalling SH5 in the future.
I can remember posting about how much of a dissappoinment SH5 was when released and refusing to admit this game could be saved by the modders, apologies to all who I offended because the modders are saving this game and I am now eating humble pie with egg on my face.

And it seems like TDW is just getting warmed up, he's chewing on this game like a mad wolf. Others have seemed to join the pack as well.

Thats enough cliches for one post.

THE_MASK
08-19-10, 08:11 PM
Im very close to starting SH5 again :D
I restart it about every half hour , and reinstall it about every second day :O:

fastfed
08-19-10, 11:23 PM
LOL Ok boys! I must admit, I too have been playing the hell out of this.. Of course with some mods installs (OK OK THANK YOU MODDERS)

That said, maybe someone can help me..

I am on my third mission, I went into the port by Scapa Flow, and there was a bunch of ships, some Destroyers and capital ships, I torped some, but none of them more at all.. I even surface and they still don't move at all (They do shoot at me)

Is this normal? Am I to assume they're all anchored and don't bother chasing me?

Thanks

Wolfling04
08-20-10, 12:58 AM
Yes, anchored ships will not pursue you.

if you create a mission with the mission editor you can choose an "anchored" option.
try it sometime, make a real simple mission using the editor with 2 two ships, one at anchor and one just a speed of zero. the not at anchor will speed off as soon as it detects you.

McBeck
08-20-10, 01:09 AM
Yes, anchored ships will not pursue you.

if you create a mission with the mission editor you can choose an "anchored" option.
try it sometime, make a real simple mission using the editor with 2 two ships, one at anchor and one just a speed of zero. the not at anchor will speed off as soon as it detects you.
That seems fair, since you just dont turn the keys and sail off in ships of that size

Wolfling04
08-20-10, 01:44 AM
That seems fair, since you just dont turn the keys and sail off in ships of that size:haha::haha::haha:

Watch "Torpedo spotted sir"

Capt'n "wheres the keys!"

Bernard "Ah, sir I forgot them locked inside the bridge sir"

Capt'n "BEEERRRNAARRRDDD!!!!"

McBeck
08-20-10, 05:19 AM
:haha::haha::haha:

Watch "Torpedo spotted sir"

Capt'n "wheres the keys!"

Bernard "Ah, sir I forgot them locked inside the bridge sir"

Capt'n "BEEERRRNAARRRDDD!!!!"
:har::har:

DavyJonesFootlocker
08-20-10, 06:28 AM
My SH5 mantra is this......"Torpedo missed, sir!":D

John Channing
08-20-10, 07:13 AM
I've had that same guy on my boats since Silent Hunter I!

JCC

Lord Justice
08-20-10, 03:17 PM
he's chewing on this game like a mad wolf. Others have seemed to join the pack as well.

Thats enough cliches for one post.Then perhaps you should guide them sir, bring about some order!! :doh: