View Full Version : Britain and Iceland go to war
Well then lets not hang around. ;)
The European Union could impose trade sanctions against Iceland or stop its ships from entering EU ports in an emerging "mackerel war".
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/now-britain-and-iceland-go-to-war-over-the-mackerel-2049099.html
UnderseaLcpl
08-11-10, 07:38 AM
By contrast, the EU Common Fisheries Policy, which Britain joined on its accession to the Common Market in 1973 – is considered to have been a disaster. A third of all fish are thrown back dead from boats, either because they are the wrong species, a legal but imperfect size, or the quota has already been met.
As a result, cod in the North Sea has plunged to 3 per cent of its natural abundance, despite a recent recovery. And much of the cod sold in Britain now comes from Iceland.
So this is the source of all this contention? Trade protectionism that made an industry uncompetitive so now it wants more trade protectionism? Sounds about par for the course for Britain.
NeonSamurai
08-11-10, 07:55 AM
Looks more like environmental concerns when one country is overfishing beyond what scientists believe the stocks can handle.
The rising tension follows Iceland's unilateral decision to catch three times as much mackerel this year as the EU considers reasonable, prompting a similar move by the Danish-owned Faroe Islands. Together with the amounts traditionally taken by the EU and Norway, the quotas would exceed the sustainable catch by a third and threaten a success story in European fishing, which has been dogged by political dithering and national self-interest.
This doesn't mean though that the EU policy isn't stupid when it comes to throwing over dead fish that were caught but not the right species.
UnderseaLcpl
08-11-10, 08:06 AM
Looks more like environmental concerns when one country is overfishing beyond what scientists believe the stocks can handle.
This doesn't mean though that the EU policy isn't stupid when it comes to throwing over dead fish that were caught but not the right species.
I see those as one and the same. Environmental concerns are often a smokescreen thrown up to disguise some other agenda. EU policy mandates waste through regulation and quotas, British fisheries become uncompetitive due to overfishing, sudden;y the environment is a concern so the EU must do something about it.
I would also venture that there is probably a subsidy at work in this fishing industry, and because subsidies create a lack of incentive to innovate or economize, British fisheries are probably less competitive to begin with. Iceland may have subsidies, too, but thay may be better-implemented.
No mention in that article about how the fish quotas are sold/traded in british central fishmarkets?
Not sure how true that is, but I did see a program recently that was talking about the fishing industry in UK. What we lost in fishing fleets was regained in having a central trading market for the fishing catch? Or something to that effect anyway. It must be more complicated.
Task Force
08-11-10, 08:27 AM
Careful, make them too angry and they will use the volcano on you again...
Sailor Steve
08-11-10, 08:28 AM
I predict Britain will win. The only threat Iceland can make is to withold all the ice, which won't work because the Brits like their beer warm anyway.
Hmm, mod spending cutbacks, less new ships in the navy... underfunded navy vs volcano? I don't much care for those odds :hmmm:
@steve
Never mind the warm beer, where will I buy frozen microwave meals from in the future?! :rotfl2:
papa_smurf
08-11-10, 10:27 AM
I predict Britain will win. The only threat Iceland can make is to withold all the ice, which won't work because the Brits like their beer warm anyway.
Too right, nowt wrong with a warm beer:D.
Sailor Steve
08-11-10, 11:53 AM
@steve
Never mind the warm beer, where will I buy frozen microwave meals from in the future?! :rotfl2:
Umm, is it too late to change my bet?
dunno, what odds you wanna give me if I put my money on the volcano and shares in a chain-store for reasonably priced frozen meals? :DL
Oh No! 'mum's gone to iceland'! disaster! their plan to hold us hostage is bearing fruit... I mean frozen summer fruits... fruits and cream and pizza slices argh will their frozen leverage never end?
What's in it for the EU? :hmmm:
UnderseaLcpl
08-11-10, 02:35 PM
What's in it for the EU? :hmmm:
What do you mean?
There not going to do a thing unless there is some sort of back hander for them.
Cough..."money"...cough. :shifty:
UnderseaLcpl
08-11-10, 02:41 PM
There not going to do a thing unless there is some sort of back hander for them.
Cough..."money"...cough. :shifty:
Ahem... votes and political leverage as well...ahem.
I didn't relaize it was a rhetorical question, though I should have:oops:
Ahem... votes and political leverage as well...ahem.
I didn't relaize it was a rhetorical question, though I should have:oops:
Thats OK. :DL
It took the EU some 13 to 14 years to sign off there accounts, wonder why. ;)
Well the Brits more or less took out Iceland's banks, if they go after their fishing sector too ... ... ... :/\\chop
yer, but only 'cause they borrowed our magic beans and wouldn't give them back when we asked, so we had to loan more magic beans from some other guys so that our bean farmers had beans to sell... er hmmm lol whatever.
Hello. I am from iceland and i have to disagree. We icelanders are stuck in a hells circle. We have no money to pay out loans, the goverment rises taxes, more unemployed, less ppl pay taxes and everything in icelanf is ****ed up. We are trying our best but the goverment has nothing to work with so we cant pay icesave.
Please get this message forward
Lord_magerius
02-01-11, 11:37 AM
They're sending spies to the internets now to check on us :hmmm:
Don't mention the mackerel :o
Sailor Steve
02-01-11, 11:41 AM
Hello. I am from iceland and i have to disagree. We icelanders are stuck in a hells circle. We have no money to pay out loans, the goverment rises taxes, more unemployed, less ppl pay taxes and everything in icelanf is ****ed up. We are trying our best but the goverment has nothing to work with so we cant pay icesave.
Please get this message forward
Are you saying you're helpless, so we should come invade you?
:rotfl2:
Oh, and WELCOME ABOARD! :sunny:
Lord_magerius
02-01-11, 11:44 AM
You should know by now Steve that "invade" is not a word anymore. I think what you meant to say was "liberate" :know:
Tchocky
02-01-11, 11:49 AM
FINALLY! Unfinished business!
oh, sorry. Misread.
Jimbuna
02-01-11, 11:50 AM
Cod war revisited....difference being we've no longer got a navy to protect our now invisible fleet of fishing boats.
The threat of closing the NATO base at Keflavik is no longer tangible so I reckon the volcano will win by a mile.
Sailor Steve
02-01-11, 11:50 AM
You should know by now Steve that "invade" is not a word anymore. I think what you meant to say was "liberate" :know:
I consider your attempts to liberate my mind to be most invasive.
:rotfl2:
Herr-Berbunch
02-01-11, 11:51 AM
The US doesn't need asking twice to, ahem, 'liberate' somewhere - but if the UK go to war with Iceland this year then the US would show up toward the end of 2013...
'Tis a shame as I'd love to go to Iceland, it's in my top three world destinations! :yep: I don't want to be seen as an Imperialist Invader though, just a nice tourist!
PS Welcome aboard eysi :salute: not the best way to be introduced :nope:
Lord Justice
02-01-11, 12:50 PM
Well then lets not hang around. ;)
Class :yeah::woot:
Cod war revisited....difference being we've no longer got a navy to protect our now invisible fleet of fishing boats.
The threat of closing the NATO base at Keflavik is no longer tangible so I reckon the volcano will win by a mile.
Was gonna poste something similar. Reminds of the Cod Wars of the 70's.
The US doesn't need asking twice to, ahem, 'liberate' somewhere - but if the UK go to war with Iceland this year then the US would show up toward the end of 2013...
'Tis a shame as I'd love to go to Iceland, it's in my top three world destinations! :yep: I don't want to be seen as an Imperialist Invader though, just a nice tourist!
PS Welcome aboard eysi :salute: not the best way to be introduced :nope:
Simple just sign up and you'll get posted there at some point after your tour of Afghanistan.:O:
nikimcbee
02-01-11, 02:38 PM
The US doesn't need asking twice to, ahem, 'liberate' somewhere - but if the UK go to war with Iceland this year then the US would show up toward the end of 2013...
'Tis a shame as I'd love to go to Iceland, it's in my top three world destinations! :yep: I don't want to be seen as an Imperialist Invader though, just a nice tourist!
PS Welcome aboard eysi :salute: not the best way to be introduced :nope:
join the navy, see the world.:yeah::salute:
Jimbuna
02-01-11, 04:19 PM
Was gonna poste something similar. Reminds of the Cod Wars of the 70's.
IIRC Iceland doesn't have an army of 100+ :o
Jimbuna
02-01-11, 04:20 PM
join the navy, see the world.:yeah::salute:
It goes something like this...
I joined the navy to see the world
But what did I see
I saw the sea :DL
bookworm_020
02-01-11, 10:42 PM
There not going to do a thing unless there is some sort of back hander for them.
Cough..."money"...cough. :shifty:
Can you back hader a cod, your slap it around the face?:hmmm:
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