Done Playing For Awhile

[Sailor Steve]

I'm done with SH3 for awhile, and maybe forever.

I've now started my fourth new career in a row. Each time I sail out of port and go to my assigned grid. Each time the weather turns bad. Each time I find I'm too old and tired to play the hours required for the weather to turn good again. Each time I'm forced to save in the middle of a storm. And each time when I reload the game I'm underwater and in a death dive. Every single time. It never fails.

Too many headaches. I haven't played a real career in more than a year, and now it seems I can't.

SH4 is much smoother, and I've never had a problem like that. But SH4 is still very incomplete, at least on the Atlantic side. It doesn't have the things I most enjoy, mainly SH3 Commander. I'll still fiddle around with it, because it's so pretty, but it's not the same.

I'll still work on the Ship Names, because that's an obsession I can't quit. And I may be in the position to buy a new computer soon. We'll see what happens then.

Sorry to be negative, but I'm very tired and very frustrated right now.

[Gerald]

I'm done with SH3 for awhile, and maybe forever.

I've now started my fourth new career in a row. Each time I sail out of port and go to my assigned grid. Each time the weather turns bad. Each time I find I'm too old and tired to play the hours required for the weather to turn good again. Each time I'm forced to save in the middle of a storm. And each time when I reload the game I'm underwater and in a death dive. Every single time. It never fails.

Too many headaches. I haven't played a real career in more than a year, and now it seems I can't.

SH4 is much smoother, and I've never had a problem like that. But SH4 is still very incomplete, at least on the Atlantic side. It doesn't have the things I most enjoy, mainly SH3 Commander. I'll still fiddle around with it, because it's so pretty, but it's not the same.

I'll still work on the Ship Names, because that's an obsession I can't quit. And I may be in the position to buy a new computer soon. We'll see what happens then.

Sorry to be negative, but I'm very tired and very frustrated right now. Good luck!

http://imgur.com/DJG90.jpg :up:

[ryanglavin]

Well friend, join the club. I was about 15 seconds from losing my 890K career from corrupt files.
System reset thingy saved it.

I'm giving this game a break... I can't deal with the stress anymore, heh.

[Sailor Steve]

Good luck!:up:
:rotfl2:

Yeah, there is that! I ran into a little money today, so tomorrow I'm picking up my second one in three weeks, plus some other goodies. So I'm not all doom-and-gloom, just about the game.

[Gerald]

:rotfl2:

Yeah, there is that! I ran into a little money today, so tomorrow I'm picking up my second one in three weeks, plus some other goodies. So I'm not all doom-and-gloom, just about the game. as always ....

[Flaxpants]

Well I must be lucky then so far as I haven't encountered any of the problems you're having Steve. Admittedly I've only been playing the game for a few weeks but I've given it many hours of my time and so far it seems extremely stable. I installed a mod or two that seemed to affect the stability, so I took them off right away and the issues were fixed.
Sorry to hear you're on a downer with SH3- I'm on an upper!

[Tolkemec]

To Steve: I feel you. I had the same problems over and over again, losing a lot of careers (and I know it will happen again). The issue of the savegames is unforgivable in a retail game, and it's something I really am angry about. It is usually this issue that makes me lose interest in playing SH3, yet after a while (maybe as long as an year), I just come back to my old Type IIa again. I've been playing this game since 2006 I think (that was when I first wrote in subsim, asking for help as usual).

Now I am VERY careful with my saves (you know I save a lot, so I figure I am just ok being a rider of permastorms). Never got the death dive pbl though (fingers crossed).

Now before I save I put TC to 1024 to see if there is a frame drop, If there isn't, I go to the nav map, go to TC 1, hit esc, then come back to the navmap without saving, then hit esc again and save game, each time with a different name. Then I copy my SH3 folder in a SH3backup folder. Yeah, its kind of a ritual... still it is working fine.

Before knowing that the savegame was actually an issue (didn't know of the subsim www), I once saved a corrupt file hiting ALT+TAB multiple times while in the loading screen. Eventually (don't know why), It worked. It took a lot of patience and complete lack of computing skills, but I *really* was very happy. I think (SH3 never told me what hit me), I got bombed by a plane in a mediterranean night one hour later, losing all hands. Oh well...

To Flaxpants: You don't know the extent of your luck, Flaxpants... but you're tempting your karma! You're attracting the unwanted attention of the Macbeth Curse to your SH3... do it at your own risk :-)

[Flaxpants]

To Flaxpants: You don't know the extent of your luck, Flaxpants... but you're tempting your karma! You're attracting the unwanted attention of the Macbeth Curse to your SH3... do it at your own risk :-)

I do hope not, I'm having way too much fun! One thing I have noticed though with regards the saves, is that the dates/times of the saves you make sometimes seem to corrupt, a later save will suddenly have an earlier date than a previous save, or vice versa. This caused me a problem once only. Is it possible to correct these dates perhaps before loading the game?
At the end of the day, my motto in life is 'keep it simple', and that applies to my PC, my games and any associated mods, which I will always keep to a minimum.

[Panser]

Like Flaxpants, this is an issue I've thankfully never had and I easily have 200 hours or more of play time on the game over the years (120 this year alone).

I always save when dived just as I'm engaging convoys as many is the time I've knocked PrtScrn instead of F12 and caused my game to crash due to the resfix mod, losing hours of stalking, shooting and evading.

What exactly is the nature of the death dive, an uncontrolled dive that even blowing ballast can't save?

[RConch]

Sorry to hear this Steve.
I also have had none of these problems you have related.
Since I got my new computer and the "new" version of SH III, I have not experienced any problems at all.
I save when I want no matter what or where I am( underwater, under attack and in sight of enemy ships ect.). I save game often.
I keep my mods VERY simple and load them myself with back up.
From my experience, if you can, get a new machine with Win 7 and the "new" version of SH III and I think you will find alot of the problems are gone and keep the mods simple.
It maybe a case of few is better.:salute::yep:

[Svendog]

Hi Steve, I know what you mean about the storms, I recently started a new career and I'm on patrol 5 now, off the north of Ireland shadowing a convoy. The weather went bad about 2 days out of Willi and has been like it ever since. I don't get the save game issues people are always talking about though. I hit the convoy last night, went to 30 metres and re loaded my tubes then saved before going to bed. This morning I loaded the saved game and was back in the thick of it, submerged and shadowing the convoy. Maybe its that your hardware is too good? I use an A-bit nf7 mobo, Athlon 3200 xp, nVidia 7600 gt and 2gb ram running stock SH3 v1.4b and apart from a very occasional CTD I have no problems. Just a thought anyway. Best of luck. Sven.:salute:

[Herr-Berbunch]

Hi Steve, sorry to see you quiting SH3, I'm sure you'll be back one day - just a quick trawl through the Comments to SUBSIM Review reveal people returning in droves, well, a trickle. Thanks for continuing with Ships Names - it adds greatly to alot of peoples games - are there many left for you to do, you must run out eventually?

I hope you'll still pop into the SH3 threads to offer your experience and advice, wisdom and wit :up:

:salute:
:cry::cry::cry::O::cry::cry::cry:

[Sailor Steve]

Well I must be lucky then so far as I haven't encountered any of the problems you're having Steve. Admittedly I've only been playing the game for a few weeks but I've given it many hours of my time and so far it seems extremely stable. I installed a mod or two that seemed to affect the stability, so I took them off right away and the issues were fixed.
Sorry to hear you're on a downer with SH3- I'm on an upper!
Glad to hear it! :rock:

What exactly is the nature of the death dive, an uncontrolled dive that even blowing ballast can't save?
Exactly. You're very careful to save on the surface, nowhere near land, no ships anywhere around, and when you load the the game you are submerged and headed for the bottom at flanks speed.

I hope you'll still pop into the SH3 threads to offer your experience and advice, wisdom and wit :up:
Oh I'll never leave Subsim. Even when I was homeless and couldn't play at all I was still here every day, posting from the library. This is only about playing, not about modding or posting. :sunny:

[Kapt Z]

Sorry to see you go Steve. Know what you mean, though.

My old machine just barely ran SH3 and even then it couldn't handle GWX and I had pretty much given up on the game entirely about a year or so ago. Then we finally bought a new computer and now SH3 is brand new again! I can run GWX and a bunch of mods no problem, no graphics issues, no save issues, unbelievable difference!

I'll get SH4 someday, but with all the complaints I hear about SH5 I could play SH3 for years to come.

Good luck in the Pacific and give my regards to the IJN.:salute:

[Hans Uberman]

I can entirely understand. Oddly enough, bugged saves and lost careers are what stop me from playing SH4, and got me playing SH3. Have a good rest, you've obviously earned it!

[Gerald]

Oh I'll never leave Subsim. Even when I was homeless and couldn't play at all I was still here every day, posting from the library. This is only about playing, not about modding or posting. :sunny:[/QUOTE] other than time, money, or other circumstances,what would you do then..
:hmm2:

[pickinthebanjo]

The things that piss me off are when you get constant messages, or when I save and then the next time I re-load I receive a pile of old messages one after another.

And those storms :nope: I've never been to England so I don't know if it's really like that but it seems like as soon as I hit English waters the storm comes in.

Last time though I had my laptop sitting on top of an AC vent which kept it very cool, so I just TC'd through that storm in a few minutes

[Platapus]

The nice thing about taking a break from SH3 is that the war will still be waiting for you when you decide to come back.

No hurry, we can hold WWII for you. :D

[frau kaleun]

I'm done with SH3 for awhile, and maybe forever.

http://a7.vox.com/6a00f48cdf229f000300e398f107df0004-500pi

I'm keeping my fingers crossed that you'll eventually find a way to come back and enjoy the game. :yep:

[irish1958]

Same problem.:cry::wah: Reece's weather fix saved me. I don't for the life of me know why the developers:88) didn't fix the weather in a patch. They knew of the problem but choose to ignore it for some reason.:damn:
And it is still a problem in SH4 and 5!
DUH!:help:

[Sailor Steve]

Good luck in the Pacific and give my regards to the IJN.:salute:
No Pacific, no IJN. Strictly OM and one each of the three types of u-boats. It will take me forever to reach 1942, and my compulsive nature demands that I play in a strict chronological order.

other than time, money, or other circumstances,what would you do then..
Well, I could have bought an entirely new computer today, but, silly me, I spent the money on a second bass (far different from the first one, but just as good), a pair of speaker cabinets so our two guitar players could hear each other better on stage, and a bunch of peripherals. I could buy a computer tomorrow, but I'm actually thinking of a car. I haven't had one in five years. Or finally getting my poor old Kawasaki up and running again. I could still buy a computer Friday, but there is no way I'm missing this year's Subsim Meet. Saturday I'll be broke again.

I'm keeping my fingers crossed that you'll eventually find a way to come back and enjoy the game. :yep:
I think I'll enjoy the game just fine, Except it will be SH4 rather than SH3. And who knows - that computer may be along sooner than I think.

I doubt it though. We still need a couple of new floor monitors and I'd like a crossover cabinet myself. :D

[Ducimus]

Strictly OM and one each of the three types of u-boats.

And here I thought you were gonna give 9D2 a whirl. I have to say, one reason i released what i have so far as a beta was too see how many people are really interested in it. Not that many are. I may just axe the project, or fold what's been done so far into TMO so it doesn't go to waste. Doing so may also help reduce the need for dual installs.

As for SH3. I have many fond memories playing this game, but the one thing that kills it for me, above all else, is the load time. Call it a personal pet peeve, but that super long load time bugs the hell out of me. Tantamount to scraping nails on a blackboard. It's like watching a web browser thats not responding, suddenly catch up to what it was loading 5 minutes after you clicked on a flash riddled web site. (single core cpu here at work)

[Sailor Steve]

And here I thought you were gonna give 9D2 a whirl. I have to say, one reason i released what i have so far as a beta was too see how many people are really interested in it. Not that many are. I may just axe the project, or fold what's been done so far into TMO so it doesn't go to waste. Doing so may also help reduce the need for dual installs.
I've already looked at it, and it's awesome. But as I said, I'm a little on the obsessive-compulsive side, and I have to start at the beginning of the war. I can't help myself. But I'll get to it, that I promise. It may take awhile though.

I'll tell you what. Since I'm still trying to set up mods for my OM career, I'll go ahead an try a 9D2 career immediately. It's not like I can't go back and start over anytime I want. I wasn't trying to dis you at all, and I know how hard it can be to pour your heart into something and have it be ignored. I have been playing music for 45 years now.

Sometimes I just forget about things from one day to the next.

As for SH3. I have many fond memories playing this game, but the one thing that kills it for me, above all else, is the load time. Call it a personal pet peeve, but that super long load time bugs the hell out of me. Tantamount to scraping nails on a blackboard. It's like watching a web browser thats not responding, suddenly catch up to what it was loading 5 minutes after you clicked on a flash riddled web site. (single core cpu here at work)
Different strokes for different folks. I can live with the load times, but only because I can spend that time talking to myself about other things that are always buzzing around my head. What makes me grind my teeth is waiting five minutes for it to load and then having the experience I described above.

[Ducimus]

Honestly, It won't break my heart in the slightest if nobody touch's it. Let's me off the hook for having to support another mod. :rotfl2:

[Jimbuna]

That's tough Steve.....sounds to me like you've had a similar experience to what I encountered last week, your system has eventually been overpowered by a plethora of mods :nope:

I've a 3.0GHZ quad core system coming tomorrow and I suspect/hope you'll not be far behind me :up:

[Herr-Berbunch]

That's tough Steve.....sounds to me like you've had a similar experience to what I encountered last week, your system has eventually been overpowered by a plethora of mods :nope:

I've a 3.0GHZ quad core system coming tomorrow and I suspect/hope you'll not be far behind me :up:

Ooh, mod heaven compared to mod soup - then we expect to see your mod list, not your son's from Dec! :D

[irish1958]

I've a 3.0GHZ quad core system coming tomorrow and I suspect/hope you'll not be far behind me :up:
Jim, did you just rob a bank or win the lottery?:arrgh!:

[frau kaleun]

Jim, did you just rob a bank or win the lottery?:arrgh!:

He finally gave in and sold Neal the last surviving set of negatives from the film he shot at the last Subsim Meet.

Sadly, Neal is now running the site from a cardboard box underneath a highway overpass just outside the I-610 Loop.

[Jimbuna]

Ooh, mod heaven compared to mod soup - then we expect to see your mod list, not your son's from Dec! :D

Well you just never know :DL

It will be far easier to determine what won't work with what because of an actual conflict instead of the old chestnut "have I simply overloaded the systems capabilities"? :hmmm:

[Jimbuna]

Jim, did you just rob a bank or win the lottery?:arrgh!:

That's a hard one to answer without running the risk of mixed responses....but the simple truth is I salted a sum of money away a couple of years ago in preparation for the day when the upgrade/replacement became inevitable.

The system arriving tomorrow is not top of the range actually:

AMD 64 Phenom2 Quad Core 945+ - 3.0 GHZ
8 GIG DDR3 RAM - 1333mhz
2x500GIG SATA2 Drives
ASUS M4N68T Motherboard
Integrated 16 Bit 7.1 Sound
1GB ATI Radeon HD5750 PCI Express
W7 (not sure if it's Home or Ultimate)

I'm currently looking at a newer/more powerful chip set/system than the one above for a backup that won't be used for SH work but other more powerful games in the near future, therefore negating the need to having to constantly run registry scans etc. between mod testing.

He finally gave in and sold Neal the last surviving set of negatives from the film he shot at the last Subsim Meet.

Sadly, Neal is now running the site from a cardboard box underneath a highway overpass just outside the I-610 Loop.

Still got them hence the second system already in the pipeline :DL

[Herr-Berbunch]

The system arriving tomorrow is not top of the range actually:

AMD 64 Phenom2 Quad Core 945+ - 3.0 GHZ
8 GIG DDR3 RAM - 1333mhz
2x500GIG SATA2 Drives
ASUS M4N68T Motherboard
Integrated 16 Bit 7.1 Sound
1GB ATI Radeon HD5750 PCI Express
W7 (not sure if it's Home or Ultimate)



Better than mine :wah:


I'm currently looking at a newer/more powerful chip set/system than the one above for a backup that won't be used for SH work but other more powerful games in the near future, therefore negating the need to having to constantly run registry scans etc. between mod testing.



Still got them hence the second system already in the pipeline :DL

But what is this 'other games', surely SH3 is you life, there is no game other than SH3 :o

[Jimbuna]

Better than mine :wah:



But what is this 'other games', surely SH3 is you life, there is no game other than SH3 :o

I'm looking at branching out to whatever comes onto the market next without having to check system specs for a year at least.

[Herr-Berbunch]

I'm looking at branching out to whatever comes onto the market next without having to check system specs for a year at least.

Yeah, I'm looking into something like Arma II at the minute :hmmm:

[pickinthebanjo]

Well you just never know :DL

It will be far easier to determine what won't work with what because of an actual conflict instead of the old chestnut "have I simply overloaded the systems capabilities"? :hmmm:

Thats one thing I am looking forward to myself tomorow. Now I just have to get to a store and hope they sell the RAM I need in this town.

[Krauter]

I just recently bought a MacBookPro laptop..

I'm wondering if it will be OK to run either SHIII or SH4..

Specs are:

Intel Core 2 Duo
2.4GhZ Processer Speed
L2 Cashe: 3Mb
4GB of Memory
Nvidia GeForce 320M

[Herr-Berbunch]

I just recently bought a MacBookPro laptop..

I'm wondering if it will be OK to run either SHIII or SH4..

Specs are:

Intel Core 2 Duo
2.4GhZ Processer Speed
L2 Cashe: 3Mb
4GB of Memory
Nvidia GeForce 320M

Specs seem fine for it, but I think you'll need some other software to run a windows-based game on a mac. Somebody has mentioned it elsewhere recently but I'm struggling to find it, even with Captcha removed! :D

Edit: Found the other thread http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=172697

[sergei]

Use Bootcamp to set up a separate windows partition.
(Bootcamp comes as standard as part of your OS).
Specs seem fine.
Mine are very similar, and I can run SH3 and 4 + tons of mods just fine.

[flag4]

I'm done with SH3 for awhile, and maybe forever.

I've now started my fourth new career in a row. Each time I sail out of port and go to my assigned grid. Each time the weather turns bad. Each time I find I'm too old and tired to play the hours required for the weather to turn good again. Each time I'm forced to save in the middle of a storm. And each time when I reload the game I'm underwater and in a death dive. Every single time. It never fails.

Too many headaches. I haven't played a real career in more than a year, and now it seems I can't.

SH4 is much smoother, and I've never had a problem like that. But SH4 is still very incomplete, at least on the Atlantic side. It doesn't have the things I most enjoy, mainly SH3 Commander. I'll still fiddle around with it, because it's so pretty, but it's not the same.

I'll still work on the Ship Names, because that's an obsession I can't quit. And I may be in the position to buy a new computer soon. We'll see what happens then.

Sorry to be negative, but I'm very tired and very frustrated right now.

Sailor Steve, are you looking forward to a more functional/connection free SH5?

i know your problems can be fixed - (a bit presumptious perhaps but, i know you know that!) - with SH3, just sounds like you have had enough for now. stopped playing myself the other year - too much real life crashing in on me - had no energy. didnt think i would play again. the very thought of SH3 made me tired - no kidding. so i went back to COD2 with the Merciless Matador Mod ( alot of blood!!) - almost a new game with it. kill kill kill no breathing. ten minutes of that on Veteran level and i was out for the count!!

flag4:salute:

[Sailor Steve]

Sailor Steve, are you looking forward to a more functional/connection free SH5?
I couldn't run it anyway without a new computer.

i know your problems can be fixed - (a bit presumptious perhaps but, i know you know that!) - with SH3, just sounds like you have had enough for now.
Not in the least. If it would run without problems I'd be playing right now. That said, in many other posts I've said that I like the history more than the game itself. I spend so much time trying things out that I doubt if I've completed 20 patrols in five years of playing. If I like a mod I want to see it in action more than I want to actually play the game, which means that I don't want to remove certain mods to make it run better.

So no, I don't play anything else at all, I'm not even remotely tired of SH3, and I don't see a way to make it better short of a complete new computer.

[Herr-Berbunch]

Make your ships' names payware, at least until you get a new machine!

One dollar - one hundred names. I'd gladly donate a 'small' amount for some of these mods and names is one of them...

...but, I'd want to see you with a new fangled all singing all dancing mod machine and not a bloody guitar. :yep:

No offense!

Tap Jim up for a loan, he's obviously loaded at the moment :D

[Krauter]

My only problem is I do not have a Win XP/Vista/7 Disc lying around.. I thought I did (my Home PC is Win7) but I dont.. anyway I can get it without a disc?

[sergei]

My only problem is I do not have a Win XP/Vista/7 Disc lying around.. I thought I did (my Home PC is Win7) but I dont.. anyway I can get it without a disc?

No, sorry Krauter.
You'll need an install disc.

[Jimbuna]

Tap Jim up for a loan, he's obviously loaded at the moment :D

How did you know I'm currently suffering from a very heavy cold/man flu? :DL