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Hi everyone.
I have encountered something game breaking. And that is FPS. It's a thread you would expect at sh5 forum :D .
Alright now is it just me or does every ones FPS crap like mine? In the subs interior itsjumping constantly from 15 to 25 which is not the bggest problem but when I am outside the sub it drops to 12~13 sometimes 9 if I'm in port or a ship burns it drops to 3 fps. I was expecting this game to run flawless considering it's age but well....I forgot how old my pc is.
I have GWX 3.0 installed btw.
Here are my specs.
Intel pentium 4 3.0ghz; 768mb ram; Nvidia geforce fx5200; a broken 320gb drive and a almost working 74gb drive.
I know the pc is crap but still... It is better than recommended specs isn't it?
The only thing I think I could try is reinstalling the OS since it wasn't me who was using the PC for the last year (I had a great notebook which could run SH5 with ease but my sister moved and took it with her.) , maybe it has some viruses. (though AV didn't find anything)
I can only reinstall the Os in a month or so when my friend will get back from vacation since I have to back up some stuff. Any other ideas that could help?
Hi everyone.
I have encountered something game breaking. And that is FPS. It's a thread you would expect at sh5 forum :D .
Alright now is it just me or does every ones FPS crap like mine? In the subs interior itsjumping constantly from 15 to 25 which is not the bggest problem but when I am outside the sub it drops to 12~13 sometimes 9 if I'm in port or a ship burns it drops to 3 fps. I was expecting this game to run flawless considering it's age but well....I forgot how old my pc is.
I have GWX 3.0 installed btw.
Here are my specs.
Intel pentium 4 3.0ghz; 768mb ram; Nvidia geforce fx5200; a broken 320gb drive and a almost working 74gb drive.
I know the pc is crap but still... It is better than recommended specs isn't it?
The only thing I think I could try is reinstalling the OS since it wasn't me who was using the PC for the last year (I had a great notebook which could run SH5 with ease but my sister moved and took it with her.) , maybe it has some viruses. (though AV didn't find anything)
I can only reinstall the Os in a month or so when my friend will get back from vacation since I have to back up some stuff. Any other ideas that could help? so it happens a lot about U-boat, and it affects the composition,and by extension your graphics card also,I would suggest that you look at drivers on the graphics card, and do an upgrade on RAM memory.to obtain a better optimization or change the graphics card,if you have the opportunity for this :salute:
Well I will steal additional 256mb ram plate from my friends old pc but again only in a month. I can't buy anything right now(would I love a new pc trust me) :damn:
Pretty much forgot to update my drivers if I'm honest. Will try and report if it helped.
I hate my stupid keyboard! ITS made from some rubber or jelly or silicon crap that doesn't type properly unless hit with a hammer. Have t recheck everything I write because of that. And the stupid cheap mouse that fails every 10 minutes. :damn::damn:
Sailor Steve
08-05-10, 10:26 AM
HiHere are my specs.
Intel pentium 4 3.0ghz; 768mb ram; Nvidia geforce fx5200; a broken 320gb drive and a almost working 74gb drive.
I know the pc is crap but still... It is better than recommended specs isn't it?
Barely. I have recently upgraded to 4 GB of RAM and a 1 GB video card, and I still have to dial back the AA on the card to keep it from stuttering when a ship is burning.
What mods are you running? This game takes a lot of power to make it smooth.
Herr-Berbunch
08-05-10, 10:39 AM
I started off playing with P4 2.66, 1.5Mb RAM, 250Gb HD and a ATI X800XL 256Mb and my frame rates were never that bad, even with GWX.
I know SH3 is predominantly processer-run but that graphics card is only just scraping into the 'it'll work' territory, it's seven years old and came with a choice of AGP or PCI (not -E). I'd like to think you'd got the AGP version, in that case there are myriad graphics card out there that are infinately (almost!) better that cost peanuts today. If you've got the PCI version then you may as well abandon ship now!
My suggestions: get new graphics card (if AGP, hell, somebody on this forum will have one gathering dust that they'll send to you probably for just p&p, we're that nice!); increase RAM - check what you're motherboard is capable of and come back to us (again, we might have some just laying around...)
Failing the above, start saving. It's never ideal, but with a modern PC you'll find so much more than SH3 enjoyable... :D
Edit: The latest drivers available for your card are 175.19 from July 2008, I doubt you'll need to update. Latest XP drivers are up to 258...
Thanks for the answers. i only run GWX 3.0 as I already mentioned. BTW the graphics settings are a bit messy. I couldn't find advanced.
Yeah my graphics card is agp8x . I was planning non upgrading it but then my sister bought a really great laptop which she let me use. But now she moved and I'm stuck with this rusty old bucket. It has 4 ram slots and 3 of the are used by 256mb plates.I really don't want to upgrade it since i had bad experience with it. I wasted all my money on a 320gb hard drive which broke down in a year (warranty just expired) and made my pc crash bsod and all kinds of miracles. I really don't want to waste any money on this.
New(well old) drivers didn't do anything either. LOL I could complain about this PC forever. My speakers are making this annoying buzzing sound all the time because they are near my wireless phone, and since it gets it's cable from a modem I can't move them far away for the buzz to stop :haha:
:D
SO looks like I'm doomed then
EDIT:
HA ha lol. The game crashed when i sped up time x256 :D
Herr-Berbunch
08-05-10, 11:05 AM
Can anyone donate a AGP 8x card? :hmmm:
@Ediko what RAM can you take?
Lol I appreciate the help. I really don't know about ram. All I know is that I can't it one more 256mb plate or I need totally new ones.. Would DXdiag indicate the ram type or any other way to find it. BTW I think there is a bug in the device manager. It hows me 2 3.0ghz cpu's although I clearly don't have a dual core... (did dualcores even exist in 2004?)
Thanks for the answers. i only run GWX 3.0 as I already mentioned. BTW the graphics settings are a bit messy. I couldn't find advanced.
Yeah my graphics card is agp8x . I was planning non upgrading it but then my sister bought a really great laptop which she let me use. But now she moved and I'm stuck with this rusty old bucket. It has 4 ram slots and 3 of the are used by 256mb plates.I really don't want to upgrade it since i had bad experience with it. I wasted all my money on a 320gb hard drive which broke down in a year (warranty just expired) and made my pc crash bsod and all kinds of miracles. I really don't want to waste any money on this.
New(well old) drivers didn't do anything either. LOL I could complain about this PC forever. My speakers are making this annoying buzzing sound all the time because they are near my wireless phone, and since it gets it's cable from a modem I can't move them far away for the buzz to stop :haha:
:D
SO looks like I'm doomed then
EDIT:
HA ha lol. The game crashed when i sped up time x256 :D In the case of speakers, so the cables are not shielded,Therefore you for noise from other electronic devices,so if you have plans to upgrade your rig, so I suggest you build one yourself,and it has several advantages, it is cheaper and you choose what you want,instead of unnecessary things.Finally, I mentioned that there are some AGP cards on the market that is "decent" but I would not bet on it without saving and low-lying and building your own rig with PCIe 16 or PCIe 2.0,whatever you choose,I wish you good luck :up:
Thanks. I don't plan to upgrade this rig since its pretty much dying already. The problems I had with it bring back memories. It was already quite dated when I first got it and well its here just because I can't get anything. I don't plan to buy a new pc either since I will be moving to Denmark in a year (Free universities for the win) and I need all the money I can get (not like I can get any but still lol). So I will propably get a new pc when everything will be more stabilised. Meanwhile I thought I could waste some time in sh3 and some other old classics I didn't play enough but seems that the rig won't let me. QUite odd if I'm honest because I do remember playing SH3 a loong time ago and it was running fine I think.
Lol I appreciate the help. I really don't know about ram. All I know is that I can't it one more 256mb plate or I need totally new ones.. Would DXdiag indicate the ram type or any other way to find it. BTW I think there is a bug in the device manager. It hows me 2 3.0ghz cpu's although I clearly don't have a dual core... (did dualcores even exist in 2004?) so you can see all the information you think is important (free version).
http://www.cpuid.com/softwares/cpu-z.html
Yeah device manager was wrong. I downloaded hwmonitor maybe it's overheating a lot? Worth a look I guess.
Yeah device manager was wrong. I downloaded hwmonitor maybe it's overheating a lot? Worth a look I guess. come from the same manufacturer so it is up to you which option you choose..
Sailor Steve
08-05-10, 02:24 PM
Can anyone donate a AGP 8x card? :hmmm:
The 1 MB card I just bought is AGP! My system is quite old as well, and is now maxed out. The card was $57 from www.newegg.com (http://www.newegg.com).
Well I will steal additional 256mb ram plate from my friends old pc but again only in a month. I can't buy anything right now(would I love a new pc trust me) :damn:
Pretty much forgot to update my drivers if I'm honest. Will try and report if it helped.
I hate my stupid keyboard! ITS made from some rubber or jelly or silicon crap that doesn't type properly unless hit with a hammer. Have t recheck everything I write because of that. And the stupid cheap mouse that fails every 10 minutes. :damn::damn:
Brother, I feel for you. Trying to run SH3 on a marginal setup like that is a recipe for heartbreak. And here I sit on a pile of unused mice and keyboards cluttering up my house.
The 1 MB card I just bought is AGP! My system is quite old as well, and is now maxed out. The card was $57 from www.newegg.com (http://www.newegg.com). :DL
Herr-Berbunch
08-05-10, 03:14 PM
You mean of course one gig
I hope so! :hmmm:
Brother, I feel for you. Trying to run SH3 on a marginal setup like that is a recipe for heartbreak. And here I sit on a pile of unused mice and keyboards cluttering up my house.
Heh I'm done. Might as well just look at the screens with performance like I have lol. And this stupid mouse which isn't even mine is failing all the time. Ah well maybe I'll get a life..... :har:
No way lol I will just keep stalking the forums :haha:
Even if you have to wait, one day you'll have a system good enough to run the game with justice. Keep the faith, Herr Kaleun. Just consider your current down time as an extended shore leave.
i have a " XFX nVidia 7600gt -256mb DDR3 " on the shelf . If that helps , drop a message here or feel free to pm me . :cool:
This is the first forum that is so friendly. I have been on a lot of them (no not just bragging about my system all the time :haha: ) and not a single one ever offered such help. Thanks guys you really are great. :salute:
Doolar Semler isn't that card a bit to expensive? It still costs quite a lot here I checked. And isn't it pci-e? Thanks for your help.:up:
no it not expensive , we could work out a trade or something ,ya know . i would rather see this card in use , sinking ships then to be mothballed on my shelf .
Herr-Berbunch
08-06-10, 06:47 AM
I'm sure nobody here is uber-flash with the cash, but we all want the same thing, for SH (all flavours) to be enjoyed to the best of it's ability, and we'll all do our best to get people beyond scraping by.
Have you discovered what RAM you can take yet? :D
Are you sure it still is expensive where I live.(I checked).
So do you want a cat? Hes fluffy,loves to hug eats a lot and is rather useless :)
Now if I'm serious I would love that card but I'm not really sure what I could offer you in exchange. As you already know all my electronics are fubar.
So I'm a bit lost know.
Didn't see your post Herr-Berbunch.
http://img822.imageshack.us/i/ramf.jpg/
This is what cpuz is showing. So it means that my ram is ddr. When I view individual plates in cpuzz it shows frequency latency and what not so I'm not sure what you need to know? Sorry if there are some typos this keyboard is driving me mad. (My sis tought it's a cool idead to order a 2 $ silicon keyboard from Honk Kong, but well it's at least better than on screen keyboard)
Herr-Berbunch
08-06-10, 10:11 AM
Right, looking at that graphic, you appear to have DDR400 (also known as PC3200). BUT, and that is a big but, I suggest you check out www.crucial.com and run their memory advisor tool from their homepage before trying to stick anything in your PC.
If you can take PC3200 you should be able to take PC2700, which although slightly slower it's something I've got sat at home. But run that tool above first and let us know, it should let you know exactly what type and how much you can take! :up:
Herr-Berbunch
08-06-10, 11:05 AM
And is your 320 Gig HDD totally bustedbrokerfuffled? And is that what OS/SH3 are on or are they on your 74 Gig HDD? Or split between the two?
Try running something like CCleaner from Piriform to get rid of any unwanted files (temp folders, things like that), get rid of any programs you downloaded ages ago and don't really use anymore, scan with the reg cleaner, and fix any issues (DO save a backup as offered).
Defrag the HDDs, I use Defraggler also from Piriform (both free!), but Microsoft do have a built-in one that can be just as good. Before you defrag it's a good idea to have as little running as possible, disconnect from t'interweb.
Also take a vacuum cleaner or air duster to the internals, being very careful not to knock anything, and don't blow too hard too close with the duster. Include fans/vents/filters if you have any. Obviously before you delve inside, turn it off, remove the power cable and wait for any lights that are on the motherboard to go out before you stick your hands in.
Yeah the drive is siting inside doing nothing since I disconnected it from all wires. It is beyond repair as far as all the programs I tried said (I tried a LOT) and was causing constant crashes,bsodm,hangs etc. I did all I could to make the system better. (I advise adcanced system care btw, its free and has a lot ofgood stuff in it)
http://www.crucial.com/systemscanner/viewscanbyid.aspx?id=3874863231D926C3 Here is that sites result. If you don't see it I can make a screen.
Oh a bit offtopic but anyone from Kiel here? I'm going too Germany for a week tomorrow (My school sends everyone who learns German for one practice week). There is going to be some shopping in Kiel or some other nonsense. I really want to get to Laboe and see u995 but it's quite far and I won't make it on foot I guess. Maybe someone who's been there knows some kind of transport. :salute:
Alright since there's just 3 hour of sleep left for me I'm going to bed now. I will bump this thread in a week or so and report if I will make any progress. Thanks for all the help guys really appreciating it!
No ... I got a mean cat , that won't work ... but all kidding aside . If ya want the XFX 7600gt , i'll send it to ya . Its doing me no good just sitting on the shelf . I would like to see someone put it to good use ( sinking merchants that is ) . I really don't need anything in return , but I thought that sounded fun . Again its only got 256mb DDR3 memory and it is an AGP 8x . If interested , PM me your address . Jerry :cool:
Sailor Steve
08-06-10, 06:36 PM
I hope so! :hmmm:
As I said in post #4. A later typo doesn't count if I got it right the first time. :O:
pickinthebanjo
08-06-10, 08:00 PM
The 1 MB card I just bought is AGP! My system is quite old as well, and is now maxed out. The card was $57 from www.newegg.com (http://www.newegg.com).
Reminds me of when I bought my first 32Mb Nvidia card, that thing was top of the line when I bought it :haha: I just bought a Zotac 512Mb though to use in my old rig, it only cost me $59.99 at futureshop
pickinthebanjo
08-06-10, 08:05 PM
Even if you have to wait, one day you'll have a system good enough to run the game with justice. Keep the faith, Herr Kaleun. Just consider your current down time as an extended shore leave.
I hear you there, I had to quit playing SH3 about a month or two ago because my computers temperature started to hit 100 degrees, peaking at about 120 before shutting down. So I'm just finishing up a new build, can't wait to attack another convoy.
I hear you there, I had to quit playing SH3 about a month or two ago because my computers temperature started to hit 100 degrees, peaking at about 120 before shutting down. So I'm just finishing up a new build, can't wait to attack another convoy.
Was that a desktop or a notebook? My previous notebook experienced soaring temperatures, in spite of all my precautions: never put it on a soft surface, always use a flat, hard support underneath and preferably a cooling mat. The first time it began to run hot, I disassembled it down to a bare chassis and replaced the CPU/heatsink combo. Man, that is a chore! It ran fine for a year and a half after that, but recently began to run hot again. This time, I was able to source a new part from an American supplier, but to no avail. It still runs in the mid 70's; last time I ran it it hit 80 Celsius, which is very hot, even for an AMD mobile CPU. It has become unstable to the point of uselessness. The sound jitters, like when you speak into a fan, and the mouse pointer skips across the screen. I always had my data backed up, so I didn't lose anything. I replaced it last week with a new gaming notebook with very high specs and it just eats through GWX and asks, "Is that all you got?" Even in convoy battles it just breezes through with no lag at all.
pickinthebanjo
08-06-10, 11:02 PM
Was that a desktop or a notebook? My previous notebook experienced soaring temperatures, in spite of all my precautions: never put it on a soft surface, always use a flat, hard support underneath and preferably a cooling mat.
Yeah an HP G50 Laptop, I'm pretty sure that it is the GPU/HDD making most of that heat, I was thinking of applying some new TC under the Heatsinks (as well as cleaning them) Also I have mine sitting on top of a grill (BBQ maybe?:haha:) so it kinda floats there
The first time it began to run hot, I disassembled it down to a bare chassis and replaced the CPU/heatsink combo. Man, that is a chore! It ran fine for a year and a half after that, but recently began to run hot again..
What kind of laptop? mine has a 2.1 Sempron (a tough little chip that one is)
I am also a pretty heavy smoker so it tends to suck that up also (needs constant vent cleaning) Also how do you change a laptops CPU, I always thought those were integrated like the GPU's are?
It's an HP Pavilion dv8120ca. It has an AMD Turion CPU at 2 GHz. It has a lovely 17 inch widescreen, but the graphics card is too weak for even stock SH3, something which I realized to my chagrin only after I had bought it. Thus, the reason why when I replaced it I got a high spec gaming notebook by ASUS. I've replaced CPU's in desktops and servers, but never in a notebook; the only ones I've worked on have been my own. What I replaced was the CPU cooling fan, not the CPU itself.
You've probably already been told, but smoking near a computer is very bad for the machine. I've cleaned smokers' computers and they are absolutely vile inside. All the dust in a chassis in a non-smoker's computer is silver/gray, but a smoker's dust is tarry and brown. I have cleaned my brother's a few times and it is a chore. He doesn't smoke, but he lets his buddies light up in his house and smoke dope, something which I would kill someone for if they tried it in my home.
Herr-Berbunch
08-07-10, 06:56 AM
Yeah the drive is siting inside doing nothing since I disconnected it from all wires. It is beyond repair as far as all the programs I tried said (I tried a LOT) and was causing constant crashes,bsodm,hangs etc. I did all I could to make the system better. (I advise adcanced system care btw, its free and has a lot ofgood stuff in it)
http://www.crucial.com/systemscanner/viewscanbyid.aspx?id=3874863231D926C3 Here is that sites result. If you don't see it I can make a screen.
Oh a bit offtopic but anyone from Kiel here? I'm going too Germany for a week tomorrow (My school sends everyone who learns German for one practice week). There is going to be some shopping in Kiel or some other nonsense. I really want to get to Laboe and see u995 but it's quite far and I won't make it on foot I guess. Maybe someone who's been there knows some kind of transport. :salute:
Alright since there's just 3 hour of sleep left for me I'm going to bed now. I will bump this thread in a week or so and report if I will make any progress. Thanks for all the help guys really appreciating it!
Ok, I've got one Gb stick of PC3200, I'll have another dig around to see if I can find any more! PM your address and it'll be winging it's way across the Atlantic to you. All I ask in return is when you can - donate to subsim.com :yeah:
pickinthebanjo
08-07-10, 12:58 PM
You've probably already been told, but smoking near a computer is very bad for the machine. I've cleaned smokers' computers and they are absolutely vile inside. All the dust in a chassis in a non-smoker's computer is silver/gray, but a smoker's dust is tarry and brown. I have cleaned my brother's a few times and it is a chore. He doesn't smoke, but he lets his buddies light up in his house and smoke dope, something which I would kill someone for if they tried it in my home.
Yeah I know, so with my latest build I am being careful. When I smoke I try to do so in another room but mostly I just open the door and blow the smoke out to another room :haha: though I should try those patches
Here is a little bump as I already mentioned here somewhere. Man was Germany great! I felt like I stepped in a **** when I returned (and no I'm not the only one who felt that way ). Was just great fun ( u995 was pretty epic too lol, never thought those torpedoes are so big)
Anyway thanks Doolar Semler and Herr-Berbunch I'm PM'ing you now
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