View Full Version : StarCraft II Overheating Bug
It seems that this game has a known bug that melts video cards in the main menu.
http://gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2010/07/28/blizzard-confirms-starcraft-ii-overheating-bug.aspx
ETR3(SS)
07-30-10, 01:45 PM
Huh... wonder if they are going to replace people's fried cards?
This.
Wolfehunter
07-30-10, 02:39 PM
wow I'm shocked, 12 years to make a game and they forgot to fix a little config script..:rotfl2: Real pros..
antikristuseke
07-30-10, 02:47 PM
If your graphics card overheats under 100% load, it is not really the applications fault, now is it?
Granted the menu should have a FPS cap for practical purposes, but if your hardware is damaged due to inadequate cooling you need to take that up with the hardware manufacturer, not Blizzard.
SteamWake
07-30-10, 10:52 PM
Graphic cards are not designed to carry 100% load 100% of the time.
Wow this is gonna be a big action suit. Glad I dident get the game :up:
Apparently, the game's menu screens aren't framerate-limited. This means that when there's nothing else going on, your graphics hardware renders the bejeezus out of those screens, causing nasty overheating problems
papa_smurf
07-31-10, 05:20 AM
Im really surprised at Blizzard for this balls up, not like them at all.
antikristuseke
07-31-10, 05:27 AM
Graphic cards are not designed to carry 100% load 100% of the time.
Wow this is gonna be a big action suit. Glad I dident get the game :up:
How many hours did the people spend on the menu screen when they damaged their hardware?
As part of overclocking stability testing i have run my entire system under 100% load for hours. Haven't lost anything to heat damage yet
Spoon 11th
07-31-10, 06:42 AM
How is this a bug? It'a feature, a feature of not capping frame rate.
"If your video cards are overheating because of FPS not being locked your system either has airflow/cooling issues or is dirty as F*ck. Just turn on vsync."
Any people dreaming about some big class action suit because of this should simply be murdered.
SteamWake
07-31-10, 08:41 AM
Murdered? isnt that a bit strong? Maybe wacked with a wet noodle.
Class action suits are a way of life :haha: punishable by death :o
Thing is lots of pepole stop at a menu screen to go mow the lawn cook dinner change a diaper or fall asleep.
Common sense would lead one to believe that at a menu screen the machine would be under the least stress not a constant grind. You would also think pepole would notice the cooling fans screaming like they have never screamed before. But they dont. Folks are lazy and to many its easier to leave the game running than it is to end the program and shut the machine down.
A video card on the verge of failing just might be pushed over the edge.
I have had games cook an older card before its not unheard of.
antikristuseke
07-31-10, 10:39 AM
Murdered? isnt that a bit strong? Maybe wacked with a wet noodle.
Class action suits are a way of life :haha: punishable by death :o
Thing is lots of pepole stop at a menu screen to go mow the lawn cook dinner change a diaper or fall asleep.
Common sense would lead one to believe that at a menu screen the machine would be under the least stress not a constant grind. You would also think pepole would notice the cooling fans screaming like they have never screamed before. But they dont. Folks are lazy and to many its easier to leave the game running than it is to end the program and shut the machine down.
A video card on the verge of failing just might be pushed over the edge.
I have had games cook an older card before its not unheard of.
In that case it is their own god damned fault, is it not?
SteamWake
07-31-10, 10:47 AM
In that case it is their own god damned fault, is it not?
Well that depends after all they have been practicing this behaviour for many years with no consiquences.... till now.
Is it un reasonable to expect a computer to be able to run in an 'idle' state indefinatly? The assumption is that at a menu screen it is in an 'idle' state.
antikristuseke
07-31-10, 10:52 AM
It is unreasonable to hold software accountable for hardware issues. Menu screens are not idle state, but nor should they load a system 100%. Still, if you suffer hardware damage in a few hours of your hardware runign at full load that is a hardware problem either caused by a poor cooling solution, a clogged cooling solution or aged hardware components failure, where that loadcomes from is irrelevant.
CaptainHaplo
07-31-10, 10:57 AM
The fault is in three places.
Programatic failures - the load screen shouldn't max hardware.
Hardware failure - either through age or cooling
User failure - for not keeping the system clean should the cooling be an issue, as well as what kind of moron just sits for an hour at a start screen.....
PEBKAC
Problem Exists Between Keyboard And Chair
SteamWake
07-31-10, 11:00 AM
Like I said I have had games cook what was thought to be a good card. I assume the stress caused some discreete component to fail but these days you just replace the whole card.
So Oblivion cooked a card, went out bought a new better vid card and promptly blew out a PSU :haha:
I dont thing anything will really come of it but Ill bet you a Beer that out there somewhere right now someone is concieving a class action suit. It's the american way.
antikristuseke
07-31-10, 11:04 AM
To sue others for a fault of your own?
Edit: I should probably step back, am in a foul mood and might say something stupid. Probably just need to vent so will take a walk.
Fincuan
07-31-10, 11:09 AM
To sue others for a fault of your own?
That's how it sadly goes.
Nowadays it seems to be a part of human nature to always try to find the fault in someone or something else than yourself. Anything related to the government seems to be the top choice, closely followed by large companies.
SteamWake
07-31-10, 11:09 AM
To sue others for a fault of your own?
To some portion of the american community....yes.
It probably is a minority portion but still yes.
I dont condone it, in fact I rather dislike it. But... well... there it is.
Wolfehunter
07-31-10, 11:57 AM
Any people dreaming about some big class action suit because of this should simply be murdered.
Why? I got my replacement card From nvidia when they fried it with one of there drivers back in april. Took 3 months and they sent dell tech down to my house and swap my burnt card with a new one. Dell didn't want to do it at first because my rig's warranty expired. Nvidia payed for it all.
If there responsible you can go through proper channels. Be civil and you can have a refund or replacement.
If blizzard is responsible they should fix there mistakes. Lawsuit or not.
Arclight
07-31-10, 06:09 PM
I'd like to point out most games do this. From some, I even get an audible high pitched whine from my card as it renders those intro logo screens and menus at 2000fps.
If you're thinking of sueing, you might as well sue the entire games industry.
Seth8530
08-01-10, 01:08 AM
yah, If your GPU cant handle being under full load then its your faulty GPU not the software.. BTW most gpu's are designed to thermal throttle themselves if they overheat so something musta went wrong with the card.
SteamWake
08-01-10, 09:44 AM
The only 'thermal throttling' that I am aware of is the fan.
Some newer PCI x 2 cards can monitor the GPU's temprature over the bus and some even have 'shut down' routines. But older PCI and PCI x buses dont have this feature.
ETR3(SS)
08-01-10, 11:53 AM
After reading this thread I got to thinking. So I started up SH4 and looked at my FPS and it was over 2k almost 3k!:timeout: I'm off to look in the SH4 threads to see if I can find some sort of frame limiter for the menu screen.
After reading this thread I got to thinking. So I started up SH4 and looked at my FPS and it was over 2k almost 3k!:timeout: I'm off to look in the SH4 threads to see if I can find some sort of frame limiter for the menu screen.
Force Vsync on from your ATI/NVIDIA control panel.
ETR3(SS)
08-01-10, 12:20 PM
Force Vsync on from your ATI/NVIDIA control panel.
Thanks!:salute:
Arclight
08-01-10, 01:21 PM
On a sidenote; V-sync can decrease performance. You can enable trible-buffering to get around that, but that can only be forced in the driver for OpenGL games. Direct3D games need to have it build into the engine (in which case you should find a V-sync option in the in-game options).
antikristuseke
08-02-10, 01:46 AM
V-sync is there to reduce tearing by synchronizing the framerate with your monitors vertical refresh rate. It caps your max framerate, and might have a 1% or less impact on performance, but your game should look etter as a result since you dont get parts of the frame displayed out of sync making it look weird.
Arclight
08-02-10, 02:02 AM
Depends on whether or not your card can keep up with with the cap and if triple-buffering is used. If your card can only manage 50FPS but the refresh rate is 75Hz (thus FPS capped at 75), you'll lose a ton of performance with double-buffering.
It's not a problem if your card can either keep up with the refresh rate, or triple-buffering is used. Otherwise you'll want to turn V-sync off.
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