Q-ship mod

[maillemaker]

So what do the q-ships in the q-ship mod look like? Can you tell they are armed, or do the packing crates on the deck just start shooting at you?

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/downloads.php?do=file&id=1424

Steve

[timmy41]

or do the packing crates on the deck just start shooting at you?

the image of that just made me laugh

[frau kaleun]

Maybe I don't pay enough attention to what should be obvious details, but I never know they're armed until I surface and they start shooting at me. And at that point all I know for sure is that I'm dealing with an armed target that may or may not be a merchant. I find out for sure they were Q-ships when they're listed as such in my patrol log, provided I sink them.

But I think in real life their weapons were disguised or hidden in some way, otherwise what would be the point? Since IIRC they were intended to lure u-boats in for what looked like an attack on an unarmed merchant and then turn the tables on them. It wouldn't be much of a trap if their armament was clearly visible to an approaching enemy.

[Capt. Morgan]

So what do the q-ships in the q-ship mod look like?

They look like small unarmed steamers - too small to waste a torpedo on.

In my only encounter with a Q-ship, I was too busy crash-diving to notice if its guns were visible when firing - it killed my deck-gun crew.

[Jimbuna]

IIRC I may have put a picture or two in the readme.

[sergei]

IIRC I may have put a picture or two in the readme.

Yep you did :yep:

And no Maillemaker, you can't tell they're armed just by eyeballing them.
Trust me - when you meet one you'll realise soon enough :03:

[maillemaker]

OK, so they just look like small freighters. Where are the guns? Inside the cargo boxes? Do they open up to reveal the guns or does gunfire just erupt out of the boxes?

I always eyeball my targets before approaching with the guns.

Steve

[HW3]

Inside the cargo boxes, and gunfire just erupts out of the boxes.

[maillemaker]

This is cool. Can't wait to get back to port so I can install it.

Steve

[Jimbuna]

This is cool. Can't wait to get back to port so I can install it.

Steve

Have a spare pair of skiddies nearby :DL

[frau kaleun]

Have a spare pair of skiddies nearby :DL

Hee, I can't wait to see how cool he thinks it is when they start shelling the bejaysus out of him! :D

P.S. It is actually pretty cool in that "OMGWTFBBQ ALAAAAAAARM!!!!11!" kinda way.

[OuNiS]

Hey maillemaker!

They hunt for you...
Wacht out!

[Jimbuna]

Hee, I can't wait to see how cool he thinks it is when they start shelling the bejaysus out of him! :D

P.S. It is actually pretty cool in that "OMGWTFBBQ ALAAAAAAARM!!!!11!" kinda way.

LMAO :har:

[maillemaker]

I have installed the mod.

Steve

[Jimbuna]

Be very careful of what vessels you approach on the surface http://www.psionguild.org/forums/images/smilies/wolfsmilies/whistle.gif

Beware of the http://www.psionguild.org/forums/images/smilies/wolfsmilies/wolfinsheepsclothing.gif

[maillemaker]

First trip out with the q-ship mod and I ran across one on the east cost of Britain.

I have external cam on for now since I just installed a new skin and wanted to see what it looks like. Kinda blew the surprise because I external-cammed the ship and in fact you can see the guns hidden in the q-ship crates if you look carefully.

Sucker shot at me and damaged me even though I was submerged! They saw my scope.

Steve

[Jimbuna]

The experience is a little more dramatic when you have no external cam enabled and come across one whilst on the surface :yep:

[frau kaleun]

It's especially fun when you approach one submerged and undetected, put an eel into what seems to be an ordinary merch, and then (as I am wont to do early in the war) surface to finish her off with your guns only to start taking damage from her guns before you can even get up to the bridge.

Fortunately they all seem to be smallish vessels and IME one well-placed eel is usually enough to sink them.

[Sailor Steve]

In the First World War the Q-ships became an art form. They carried extra crew whose sole job was to make a good show of abandoning ship. They would take to the lifeboats and everything. Then, when the unsuspecting u-boat would close in to board and lay scuttling charges...

Of course the Brits cried foul when the Germans started torpedoing them from underwater, but what's a poor u-boatman to do?

[frau kaleun]

Of course the Brits cried foul when the Germans started torpedoing them from underwater, but what's a poor u-boatman to do?

First they don't like it when we give them a couple warning shots with the deck gun and then sink their ship after they've abandoned it.

Then they don't like it when we torpedo them from underwater.

Then they don't like it when we wait 'til after dark and torpedo them on the surface.

*heavy sigh*

There is just no pleasing some people.

[Jimbuna]

I don't believe the hedgehogs and later on squids minded all that much :DL

[maillemaker]

One thing I noticed with the q-ship mod was that it is not listed as a q-ship either in the log within SH3, nor in the patrol log listed in Commander.

I used JSGME to install, plus copied the entries as listed in the readme.

But I'm not sure I copied the entries into the right files. As I recall the paths to the specified files did not match my install.

Steve

[sergei]

But I'm not sure I copied the entries into the right files.

Possibly not.
I'm sure I remember seeing 'Q-Ship' in one of my Commander patrol reports.

[maillemaker]

The readme says to modify these two files:

Copy and paste the following line into your

C:\Program Files\Ubisoft\GWX3.0\data\Sea\EnglishNames CFG:

SCF=Small Coastal Freighter

For German players (GermanNames CFG):

SCF=kleiner Küstenfrachter

For French players (FrenchNames CFG):

SCF=petit cargo côtier


Copy and paste the following into your

C:\Program Files\SH3 CommanderGWX3.0\Cfg\Ship names Cfg:

[LOV]
0001=Q Ship HMS Chatsgrove
0002=Q Ship HMS Maunder
0003=Q Ship HMS Prunella
0004=Q Ship HMS Lambridge
0005=Q Ship HMS Edgehill
0006=Q Ship HMS Brutus
0007=Q Ship HMS Cyprus
0008=Q Ship HMS Looe
0009=Q Ship HMS Antoine
0010=Q Ship USS Atik
0011=Q Ship USS Captor
0012=Q Ship USS Asterion
0013=Q Ship Uss Big Horn
0014=Q Ship USS Irene Forsyte

For my stock Windows 7 install of SH3 and GWX 3, there is no path for:

C:\Program Files\Ubisoft\GWX3.0\data\Sea\EnglishNames CFG:

I have:
C:\Program Files (x86)\Ubisoft\SilentHunterIII\data\Sea\EngishNames .cfg
C:\Program Files (x86)\Ubisoft\SilentHunterIII\MODS\GWX - Fix French\data\sea\EngishNames.cfg
C:\Program Files (x86)\Ubisoft\SilentHunterIII\data\Submarine\Engis hNames.cfg
C:\Program Files (x86)\Ubisoft\SilentHunterIII\data\Land\EngishName s.cfg
C:\Program Files (x86)\Ubisoft\SilentHunterIII\MODS\GWX - Fix French\data\Air\EngishNames.cfg
C:\Program Files (x86)\Ubisoft\SilentHunterIII\data\Air\EngishNames .cfg
C:\Program Files (x86)\Ubisoft\SilentHunterIII\MODS\GWX - Fix French\data\Land\EngishNames.cfg
C:\Program Files (x86)\Ubisoft\SilentHunterIII\MODS\GWX - Fix French\data\Submarine\EnglishNames.cfg
C:\Program Files (x86)\Ubisoft\SilentHunterIII\data\Ordnance\Englis hNames.cfg

Which file should I modify?

Likewise I have no file:
C:\Program Files\SH3 CommanderGWX3.0\Cfg\Ship names Cfg:

I do have a:
C:\Program Files (x86)\SH3 Commander\Cfg\Ship names.cfg

Which is the one I modified.

[Jimbuna]

The readme says to modify these two files:

Copy and paste the following line into your

C:\Program Files\Ubisoft\GWX3.0\data\Sea\EnglishNames CFG:

SCF=Small Coastal Freighter

For German players (GermanNames CFG):

SCF=kleiner Küstenfrachter

For French players (FrenchNames CFG):

SCF=petit cargo côtier


Copy and paste the following into your

C:\Program Files\SH3 CommanderGWX3.0\Cfg\Ship names Cfg:

[LOV]
0001=Q Ship HMS Chatsgrove
0002=Q Ship HMS Maunder
0003=Q Ship HMS Prunella
0004=Q Ship HMS Lambridge
0005=Q Ship HMS Edgehill
0006=Q Ship HMS Brutus
0007=Q Ship HMS Cyprus
0008=Q Ship HMS Looe
0009=Q Ship HMS Antoine
0010=Q Ship USS Atik
0011=Q Ship USS Captor
0012=Q Ship USS Asterion
0013=Q Ship Uss Big Horn
0014=Q Ship USS Irene Forsyte

For my stock Windows 7 install of SH3 and GWX 3, there is no path for:

C:\Program Files\Ubisoft\GWX3.0\data\Sea\EnglishNames CFG:

I have:
C:\Program Files (x86)\Ubisoft\SilentHunterIII\data\Sea\EngishNames .cfg
C:\Program Files (x86)\Ubisoft\SilentHunterIII\MODS\GWX - Fix French\data\sea\EngishNames.cfg
C:\Program Files (x86)\Ubisoft\SilentHunterIII\data\Submarine\Engis hNames.cfg
C:\Program Files (x86)\Ubisoft\SilentHunterIII\data\Land\EngishName s.cfg
C:\Program Files (x86)\Ubisoft\SilentHunterIII\MODS\GWX - Fix French\data\Air\EngishNames.cfg
C:\Program Files (x86)\Ubisoft\SilentHunterIII\data\Air\EngishNames .cfg
C:\Program Files (x86)\Ubisoft\SilentHunterIII\MODS\GWX - Fix French\data\Land\EngishNames.cfg
C:\Program Files (x86)\Ubisoft\SilentHunterIII\MODS\GWX - Fix French\data\Submarine\EnglishNames.cfg
C:\Program Files (x86)\Ubisoft\SilentHunterIII\data\Ordnance\Englis hNames.cfg

Which file should I modify?

Likewise I have no file:
C:\Program Files\SH3 CommanderGWX3.0\Cfg\Ship names Cfg:

I do have a:
C:\Program Files (x86)\SH3 Commander\Cfg\Ship names.cfg

Which is the one I modified.

My OS is XP Pro and not W7 (I will have W7 within the week though) I'm afraid but IIRC the C:\Program Files (x86)\SH3 Commander\Cfg\Ship names.cfg should be the correct one....back it up first just in case.

Are you using SH3Commander?

If not then ignore adding the individual [LOV] ship names but if you are you will need to locate the location of the ship mames CFG file.

Isn't there anyone using SH3 Commander and the W7 OS around these parts? :hmmm:

[Pebble Monkey]

I came across my first Q ship last night, cheeky bugger even fired at me!

I don't get the Q Ship named in the logs either, not in SHIII itself, or within SHIII Commander. I'm pretty sure I added the lines in the right place. I'm running on XP though, so I can't help with the Win7 installation. At a guess :

C:\Program Files (x86)\Ubisoft\SilentHunterIII\data\Sea\EngishNames .cfg is the right file within the sim and C:\Program Files (x86)\SH3 Commander\Cfg\Ship names.cfg should be the correct one within SHIII Commander.

Like I said though, I could be wrong, because it isn't working for me

[maillemaker]

Are you using SH3Commander?

If not then ignore adding the individual [LOV] ship names but if you are you will need to locate the location of the ship mames CFG file.

Isn't there anyone using SH3 Commander and the W7 OS around these parts?

I am using SH3Commander.

Are you saying with commander I modify a different CFG file?

Steve

[Jimbuna]

I am using SH3Commander.

Are you saying with commander I modify a different CFG file?

Steve

Try searching for the the line Pebble Monkey suggests:

C:\Program Files (x86)\SH3 Commander\Cfg\Ship names.cfg

As I said earlier, I won't have the W7 OS for about a week :-?

[HW3]

The problem might be that starting with Windows Vista, the UAC in Windows messes up the changes of files when SH3 and/or SH3 Commander are installed inside the Program Files or Program Files (x86) folders. The solution is to install them outside of those files. Example C:\Games\ That way the UAC will not effect changes.

[Jimbuna]

The problem might be that starting with Windows Vista, the UAC in Windows messes up the changes of files when SH3 and/or SH3 Commander are installed inside the Program Files or Program Files (x86) folders. The solution is to install them outside of those files. Example C:\Games\ That way the UAC will not effect changes.

You may well be right.

The fact is the mod was created before W7 was released so I simply can't state what the situation is.....at least until I get the W7 OS.

[HW3]

Jim, Windows 7 has the UAC also, so do yourself a big favor and make a folder like in my example and install there.:shucks:

[Jimbuna]

Jim, Windows 7 has the UAC also, so do yourself a big favor and make a folder like in my example and install there.:shucks:


Rgr that mate.....I'm off to witness the bench testing this afternoon http://www.psionguild.org/forums/images/smilies/wolfsmilies/thumbsup.gif

[MILLANDSON]

The problem might be that starting with Windows Vista, the UAC in Windows messes up the changes of files when SH3 and/or SH3 Commander are installed inside the Program Files or Program Files (x86) folders. The solution is to install them outside of those files. Example C:\Games\ That way the UAC will not effect changes.

Or you can do like I do and just turn off UAC. You don't need it if you have an ounce of sense and proper computer protection with firewalls and anti-viruses.