more then me that can't play right now?

[melin71]

I seems not to be abel to start the game. are the dam master server down?

[yllekm]

Same problem here.

[Los]

yup

:down:

[M4XDmG]

First time ever this happens to me. :down: Now I'm pissed.

Edit: Works now!

[yllekm]

Bah! I can't even login in to the Ubisoft forums to complain about it.

Nice DRM, Ubi. I'm a paying cutomer and can't play.

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I guess DRM really does just punish the honest, paying customers. :damn:

[SteelViking]

You might want to edit out that bit about piracy. Even spreading info such as this is really looked down upon here. You may receive an infraction. Not preaching, just a friendly warning.

[Webster]

saying things like that is encouraging piracy which something that we do not allow talking about here.

there are other ways to say things without actually saying it so you wouldnt find yourself getting in trouble here but i think you knew full well what you were doing.

ubi isnt reading this and your not talking to ubi here so all your doing is asking to be banned by saying such things here

[Los]

He's right tho.... right now Drm is only stopping the legit players from playing. Kinda backwards.

[Harmsway!]

This kind of thing is strangely encouraging. I don't believe UBI wants to see server problems anymore then we do. This might mean they have to waste time on a game they no longer want to bother with. Unless I'm wrong and the same server is used for their other DRM games, they may have a business case in removing the DRM requirement.

In other words whats the logic in supporting a SH5 DRM server with resources if you aren't even willing to give resources to a patch?

[yllekm]

You might want to edit out that bit about piracy. Even spreading info such as this is really looked down upon here. You may receive an infraction. Not preaching, just a friendly warning.

Well, I could edit it but since you quoted it, what I said would still be there for all to see.

And, just in case anyone gets the wrong idea about me, I own two licenses for SH5 - the retail DVD and the digital download gold version. :)

[Walruss]

DRM is a ticking time bomb waiting to explode. As has been said in other threads (e.g the resale thread just above this one) it's style often contravenes commercial law in countries that aren't the US. I'm not sure, but I'm fairly certain you could contest it in Australia too, with a good lawyer.

It's funny because games like Supreme Commander, with only a CD key, and a game design that allowed one to play it from the game files alone (no installation necessary) still do exceedingly well. From figures I've seen in the past, when securorom was the big thing, companies were spending more money on 'protection' than what piracy ever cost them. And no matter what you do, how secure you make it, you're still giving someone a bunch of code, and with the right techniques, any code can be altered. I mean, look at the thriving modding community here?

Just be glad it isn't starcraft 2, complete with no LAN support.

PS: If you do take the cost analysis into account, it wasn't piracy that made these measures popular with game publishers, but paranoia.

[SteelViking]

Well, I could edit it but since you quoted it, what I said would still be there for all to see.

And, just in case anyone gets the wrong idea about me, I own two licenses for SH5 - the retail DVD and the digital download gold version. :)

However, I can and will delete that post of mine, and I am sure that Webster will do the same if you edited your statement how we advised. I am not accusing you of piracy, I just wanted to let you and everyone else know that the explicit discussion of piracy is not allowed.

[Webster]

Well, I could edit it but since you quoted it, what I said would still be there for all to see.

And, just in case anyone gets the wrong idea about me, I own two licenses for SH5 - the retail DVD and the digital download gold version. :)

talking about or encouraging piracy has no bearing on weather you actually own the game.

infraction given and all referenced quotes deleted

[Ducimus]

You guys mean this?
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/picture.php?albumid=203&pictureid=1398


Personally, I decided to give SH5 the one fingered salute (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=1448920&postcount=121) in retaliation for upsetting my fragile sensitivities. :O:

[Walruss]

Ducimus- in a word? brilliance :P

[Sailor Steve]

Personally, I decided to give SH5 the one fingered salute (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=1448920&postcount=121) in retaliation for upsetting my fragile sensitivities. :O:
You can count that high? :O:

I be sumwhut edumacated, so I's prefer the Eurotrash two-fingered version.
:rotfl2:

Disclaimer: No actual insult toward any person, nation, continent, race, color, creed, lifestyle, dev or mod team, or game company was intended in this childish joke.

[SteelViking]

You can count that high? :O:

I be sumwhut edumacated, so I's prefer the Eurotrash two-fingered version.
:rotfl2:

Disclaimer: No actual insult toward any person, nation, continent, race, color, creed, lifestyle, dev or mod team, or game company was intended in this childish joke.

:har: I love it.....Sumwhut:har: I have heard some people literally pronounce it that way, but I have never read a spelling of it.

[Méo]

Personally, I decided to give SH5 the one fingered salute (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=1448920&postcount=121) in retaliation for upsetting my fragile sensitivities. :O:

No offence Ducimus but SHIII can have all those features, but if it doesn't have wolfpack, it means nothing to me.

I really don't see why I should start another campaign in SHIII and being the only one fighting the most powerful navy of the world...

[thyro]

I just wonder if the hackers using the DRM-FIX are also facing the same problem :hmmm:

[Takao]

You don't see any hackers complaining here, do you?

Seems to be only ligit customers complaining about not being able to play:cry:

I think Blizzard founder, Frank Pierce, says it best
"We need our development teams focused on content and cool features, not anti-piracy technology."

The DRM for the much anticipated Starcraft II is a single online activation.

No wonder most folks have consigned SHV to the crapper....

[Karasunx]

No offence Ducimus but SHIII can have all those features, but if it doesn't have wolfpack, it means nothing to me.

I really don't see why I should start another campaign in SHIII and being the only one fighting the most powerful navy of the world...

Wait, SH5 has wolfpacks?!? That isn't meant to sound sarcastic...oh too late, but really whenever I radio convoy and task force positions nothing comes of it.

[Méo]

Wait, SH5 has wolfpacks?!? That isn't meant to sound sarcastic...oh too late

I see no sarcasm, only misinterpretation (as usual...)

Since SHV is an unfinished game, of course wolfpacks are not fully operational.

Nevertheless, we might see it later.

On the other hand, probability that we ever see them in SHIII must be very close to zero. :hmmm:

[Ducimus]

No offence Ducimus but SHIII can have all those features, .....

Perhaps. But SH4 has much better graphics and doesn't take 10 years to load. :O:

[Sailor Steve]

No offence Ducimus but SHIII can have all those features, but if it doesn't have wolfpack, it means nothing to me.

I really don't see why I should start another campaign in SHIII and being the only one fighting the most powerful navy of the world...
It's all a state of mind. Yes, working wolfpacks would be wonderful, for about one year of the war. I see no reason to have SH5 if I can't run a Type II, Type IX or Type XXI.

If wolfpacks are the only criterion you have for a decent sim, then you are missing out on all the rest of the war in favor of one very limited feature.

[Méo]

If wolfpacks are the only criterion you have for a decent sim, then you are missing out on all the rest of the war in favor of one very limited feature.

Misinterpretation, again. :damn:

I never said it was the only criterion I had but IMHO it's the major feature that's been missing so far.

I mean the battle of the Atlantic without wolfpacks is approximately the same as the blitzkrieg without close air support.

Or even worse, imagine the blitzkrieg without force concentration...

In other words, a major part of the strategy is missing.

in favor of one very limited feature.

Very limited ? :06:

I mean the whole idea of the u-boat war was to coordinate and concentrate them together once the enemy found. (I guess I'm not learning you anything, perhaps you forgot..?)

I fail to see what's very limited in this ?

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BTW, did I go to the SHIII forum and tell them their game sucks cuz it won't ever have any wolfpacks...

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Edit: To avoid any misinterpretation, I'm not saying SHIII sux, I'm just looking for something else.

[Sailor Steve]

Misinterpretation, again. :damn:

I never said it was the only criterion I had but IMHO it's the major feature that's been missing so far.
No, you said ...SHIII can have all those features, but if it doesn't have wolfpack, it means nothing to me.
And that was all I was responding to.

Very limited ? :06:

I mean the whole idea of the u-boat war was to coordinate and concentrate them together once the enemy found. (I guess I'm not learning you anything, perhaps you forgot..?)

I fail to see what's very limited in this ?
I was referring to dates, and just a little research showed how wrong I was. I apologize for using that word. It was my belief that wolfpacks were very limited in time frame, lasting only a year. In fact there were a great many of them from 1940 right through 1944.

http://www.uboat.net/ops/wolfpacks/

[Méo]

No, you said

I was referring to Ducimus link:

Personally, I decided to give SH5 the one fingered salute (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=1448920&postcount=121) in retaliation for upsetting my fragile sensitivities. :O:

But that's ok Steve! :)

btw, thanks for your link on uboat.net, very interesting, but one wolfpack seems to be missing: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convoy_SC_7

[Jimbuna]

This is a fair 'Timeline' link to wolfpacks and other war related topics:

http://www.google.co.uk/#q=german+wolfpacks&hl=en&tbs=tl:1&tbo=u&ei=Br9KTKjUGpb80wS_ye2ECw&sa=X&oi=timeline_result&ct=title&resnum=11&ved=0CEMQ5wIwCg&fp=965d13b402569f38

Convoy SC7:

http://www.warsailors.com/convoys/sc7.html