Mk 18-2

[Gibus]

Hello
I wonder if there is a MOD to use the MK18-2 electric torpedoes put into service from August 1944.
In advance, thank you.

Gibus

[Bubblehead1980]

what was the difference between the Mark 18-1 and Mark 18-2?

[WernherVonTrapp]

The only thing I know about it is that the Mark-18 came in two variants. Mod-1 and Mod-2. Mod-2 was introduced in 1945 and was faster than the Mod-1. I don't know the actual speed differences between the two so, the question is: Is the game version of the Mark-18 already based on Mod-2 or on the slower Mod-1?:hmmm:

[Bubblehead1980]

Thinking its based on Mod-1 because it moves at 29 knts in game but remember reading books about later patrols and the author(usually former skippers) talking about 33 knot speed of the electric torpedos.

[ETR3(SS)]

I can only find this link http://www.microworks.net/pacific/armament/mk18_submarine.htm and it doesn't cite any source as to where they got their info from. Where are you guys getting your info from?

[Gibus]

http://www.microworks.net/pacific/armament/mk18_submarine.htm

My source (manual for Silent Hunter I) gives exactly the same figures as those quoted here: 4000 yards range, speed 40 knots, explosive mass : 500 lbs.
This was to be a good weapon.

But this does not say whether such a mod exists ... :hmmm:

[WernherVonTrapp]

My source (manual for Silent Hunter I) gives exactly the same figures as those quoted here: 4000 yards range, speed 40 knots, explosive mass : 500 lbs.
This was to be a good weapon.

But this does not say whether such a mod exists ... :hmmm: Ah, that looks like the same source I read.:yep:

[ETR3(SS)]

I looked it up in my SH1 manual and sure enough it was there. I have to say the more and more I get into SH4 and modding it, the more and more I see how much was left out or seemingly half-assed. To answer your question though, there is no mod that I know of that has the Mk 18 Mod 2 in it, just the Mod 1 as additional torpedoes can not be added (to the best of my knowledge).

[Bubblehead1980]

never played SH 1, was not into subsims back then.From what I have heard though, what it lacked in certain areas it was not others and covered a lot of things Sh 4 should have. A Mark 18-2 that makes 40 knots would be great.

[WernherVonTrapp]

I found another source that, at least, references the Mark-18 Mods-1 & 2. It seems to be a credible source.
http://www.usna.edu/Users/cs/tlogue/SI204/projects/current/P02/Project.html

http://www.usna.edu/Users/cs/tlogue/SI204/projects/current/P02/Step2/TorpedoCharacteristics.htm

:salute:

[ETR3(SS)]

I would say the Naval Academy is a credible source.:up:

[Ducimus]

I have to say the more and more I get into SH4 and modding it, the more and more I see how much was left out or seemingly half-assed.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_gcA0ZuKGkI8/S19qK59tvwI/AAAAAAAAFyo/tHuc9l2gRAc/s320/Schultz.jpg
Left our or half assed? In SH4? I don't believe it!


The sad truth is, the deeper you dig, the more apparent it is how awesome the game *could* have been when you see the unfinished fragments left behind from development. Things the devs started, but dropped.

[ETR3(SS)]

Tell me about it. I've seen references to missiles in the game files since SH2!:o And just last night while trying to figure out how to launch 24 Trident II's from the Ohio I saw a reference to a Missile Submarine.:damn:

[ichso]

The sad truth is, the deeper you dig, the more apparent it is how awesome the game *could* have been when you see the unfinished fragments left behind from development. Things the devs started, but dropped.

Interesting. Had there been attempts to include more detailed diving mechanics ? With trimming the boat, usage of compressed air, actual ballast readouts and so on ?

[Bubblehead1980]

That would be cool as an option.As Captain thats not really your responsibility but would be cool as an option.

[Ducimus]

Interesting. Had there been attempts to include more detailed diving mechanics ? With trimming the boat, usage of compressed air, actual ballast readouts and so on ?

I think they did add a trim gauge with SH4. If it existed in SH3 i don't know. There's alot of smaller stuff. Radar mounted periscope, covers for the SJ radar screen, crew changing their cloths based on weather (cold, hot), FM sonar (it's modeled but i know why they stopped, the game mechanics just don't support this bad boy), A couple other minor items here are there.

[LukeFF]

BTW, for those interested in how the Mark 18 worked, here is the April 1943 manual for the Mark 18:

http://www.hnsa.org/doc/torpedomk18/index.htm