Sarah Palin compares herself to Shakespeare

[Torvald Von Mansee]

http://wonkette.com/416738/sarah-palin-proudly-confuses-her-illiteracy-with-genius
:har::har::har::har::har::har::har::har:

[The Third Man]

http://wonkette.com/416738/sarah-palin-proudly-confuses-her-illiteracy-with-genius
:har::har::har::har::har::har::har::har:

Where is the video confirming your post. After all, fair is fair.

[The Third Man]

I consider myself an independant and criticizing just to criticize Sarah Palin doesn't cut it.

[CaptainHaplo]

Its making fun of her posts on twitter apparently. And of course - her faith (as the "peoms" linked to a picture of what appeared to be her special needs child, herself, and scripture - how classy and "progressive"). When you have to go looking this deep for stuff to make fun of, it just shows the irrational hatred some have for others who have differing views.

But then again - this is brought to you by the same people who advocate for "immigration reform" that doesn't secure the border so that the street killings, party massacres, etc can come on in from "down south".

[The Third Man]

So what she says is now funny. When Obama says the same things it is profound. Interesting.

[Zachstar]

If you looked at her exchange on twitter you will know just how dumb and uneducated (And bigoted) she sounded. She changed the tweet multiple times to attempt to repair the damage but her changes just changed from being bigoted to being outrageously stupid. To her credit tho she gave progressives a slew of funny words to use in campaigning.

[CaptainHaplo]

And if you looked at what the article itself wrote - they made fun of her special needs child and her faith...

Who is the lower class on that exchange, eh?

Like I said - venom over irrational hatred..... if it wasn't so irresponsible, it would be pitiable.

[FIREWALL]

That site is just asshat. :nope:

[AngusJS]

And if you looked at what the article itself wrote - they made fun of her special needs childNo it doesn't. It says "brain damaged followers". And the picture doesn't make fun of Trig.

and her faith...Oh noes! But I don't see how quoting a line of scripture makes fun of her faith.

[frau kaleun]

Sarah Palin refudiates this thread. :O:

[krashkart]

Sarah Palin refudiates this thread. :O:

No need to get all wee wee'd up about it. :O:

[frau kaleun]

Don't misunderestimate my wee wee.

Wait, what?

[krashkart]

Don't misunderestimate my wee wee.

Wait, what?

Oh my... :oops:

:rotfl2:

[nikimcbee]

Don't misunderestimate my wee wee.

Wait, what?

Good grief, I don't wanna know.
http://hippiekiller.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/lucy_and_charlie_brown.jpg

[Bubblehead1980]

I'm not a Palin fan but she is treated like crap by the media.You know why? Because she is a threat.Pretty much every Democrat/Liberal/"Progressive"/Moron etc realizes that November is going to be a huge loss for Dems and unless things get way better(doubt they will) she has a chance in 2012 if she runs and just like the climate was right for Obama to run in 08, itll be right for her and she will prob pull out a squeaker.Really would not be as big of a shock as some act.So now Libs in media are doing all they know how to do, ridicule and attack her in order try and discredit her.Who knows, she may just shock everyone.Pretty much anything will be better than who we have now.I knew he was crap when he was running and just love how I have been vindicated and most of my friends have admitted they made a mistake voting for him.Told them most people our age make stupid mistakes and vote for candidates like him, I tried to warn them though, just glad I knew better:arrgh!:

Anyway, Palin is not my ideal candidate but she is treated unfairly and deserves better.

[Skybird]

she is treated unfairly and deserves better.

The mockery thrown at her direction is well deserved by every word of hers.

Stupidity is the biggest of all threats. A malicious person can be driven awayby showing him/her a deterrant. A uncapable person can be halted by countering him/her and revealing his/hers inability. But a stupid perso0n: doe snot listen, is too dump to be afraid, needs no argument, and always ends any attempt to confront him/her by saying "I believe this, I believe that." It is completely useless to debate with such a person, and the onyl way to stop him/her is by crushing him/her. People can be stupid, although they have learned a lot of stuff. And poorly educated people still can be anything but stupid. Education sometimes correlates with intelligence, but it must not be like that always. With stupid persons, no argument and no manners and no procedures count, the only thing that counts is that you stop them while there is still time.

Palin once said in a sideremark she likes goldfishes. I personally would introduce Palin to that four meter long, wide-grinning white "goldfish" in the aquarium over there. Telling her that her feeding the "goldfish" would make some nice pictures for the media, should be enough to convince her.

And it even would not be a lie.

[Zachstar]

And if you looked at what the article itself wrote - they made fun of her special needs child and her faith...

Who is the lower class on that exchange, eh?

Like I said - venom over irrational hatred..... if it wasn't so irresponsible, it would be pitiable.

Considering what level she stopped to I would Say Sarah

[AVGWarhawk]

The mockery thrown at her direction is well deserved by every word of hers.

Stupidity is the biggest of all threats. A malicious person can be driven awayby showing him/her a deterrant. A uncapable person can be halted by countering him/her and revealing his/hers inability. But a stupid perso0n: doe snot listen, is too dump to be afraid, needs no argument, and always ends any attempt to confront him/her by saying "I believe this, I believe that." It is completely useless to debate with such a person, and the onyl way to stop him/her is by crushing him/her. People can be stupid, although they have learned a lot of stuff. And poorly educated people still can be anything but stupid. Education sometimes correlates with intelligence, but it must not be like that always. With stupid persons, no argument and no manners and no procedures count, the only thing that counts is that you stop them while there is still time.

Palin once said in a sideremark she likes goldfishes. I personally would introduce Palin to that four meter long, wide-grinning white "goldfish" in the aquarium over there. Telling her that her feeding the "goldfish" would make some nice pictures for the media, should be enough to convince her.

And it even would not be a lie.

Well then sir, why does Palin command the media and public attention like she does? She likes goldfishes? Interesting how this remark makes the news and you remember this remark. How stupid is she when something as simple as this is said in passing is plastered on the internet. This statement is remembered by you. She commands an audience wherever she goes. She commands her own thread here at SS. Is she really a dope as eveyone likes to throw her way? For some reason people stop and listen even if she is talking about goldfish. :hmmm:

[Torvald Von Mansee]

Well then sir, why does Palin command the media and public attention like she does?

Because McCain chose her as his running mate in a futile attempt to court more female voters. I'm also told she's physically attractive.

She's stupider than Dubya, and that's saying something.

[AVGWarhawk]

Because McCain chose her as his running mate in a futile attempt to court more female voters. I'm also told she's physically attractive.

She's stupider than Dubya, and that's saying something.

McCain only introduced Palin to the world. She took the reigns after that. She resigned as govenor for AK because she has more of a world stage doing what she does now. She is ask to attend these functions for tea party people and the like. She is influential and does command the media/peoples attention. Why is this? As far as physical, she is not going to break into a strip tease anytime soon. If that is what the world is waiting for there will be much disappointment.

[SteamWake]

She's stupider than Dubya, and that's saying something.

I keep hearing this chant from the left but frankly when I listen to her speak she doesent come off as stupid.

I think the lib's are doing their best to paint her as stupid and likely even believe that. Yet she continues to be a powerful political force even after leaving office. That doesent sound too stupid to me.

Cant wait till November :salute:

[Buddahaid]

I don't see what there is to like. McCain made a very bad mistake with her that cost him the election. She is political poison from any side.

[SteamWake]

I don't see what there is to like. McCain made a very bad mistake with her that cost him the election. She is political poison from any side.

I dont think Ms Palin cost him the election honestly not that she helped any but I dont think he stood a chance against the 'hope and change' media blitz and the overwhelming desire to place a black man in the oval office.

[TLAM Strike]

Why is this? As far as physical, she is not going to break into a strip tease anytime soon. If that is what the world is waiting for there will be much disappointment.

I the movie I saw of her she did that and more... :O:

[AVGWarhawk]

I don't see what there is to like. McCain made a very bad mistake with her that cost him the election. She is political poison from any side.


No, McCain was outclassed by Obama's team. Obama was groomed years in advance. His team learned to use the internet to reach a particular crowd. He was able to identify with the voters. He made 'shivers' go up peoples legs. McCain was left to wallow in his old school mentality. In short, no matter who McCain selected as a running mate he was doomed.

[AVGWarhawk]

I the movie I saw of her she did that and more... :O:

I did not see this movie. :har:

[mookiemookie]

Yet she continues to be a powerful political force even after leaving office.
A fool and his money are soon parted.

the overwhelming desire to place a black man in the oval office.

This is the kind of garbage opinion that those on the right love to fart out at every opportunity. "He won because he was black" doesn't hold water given the black candidates over the years - Sharpton, Jackson, Chisolm, Keyes namely. By your poorly thought out rationale, they should have all been president.

The better man won. Get over it. Stop blaming race.

[SteamWake]

A fool and his money are soon parted


In April, May and June, SarahPAC raised $866,000. Most of the money paid for consultants, travel and organization. But SarahPAC also gave out $87,500 to Republican candidates.


Yea about that money.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=128470518&ft=1&f=1014

Jackson... :D thats hilarious...

Like it or not the mans race was a major factor not to me but to the electorate at large. They were 'motivated'.

[AVGWarhawk]

This is the kind of garbage opinion that those on the right love to fart out at every opportunity. "He won because he was black" doesn't hold water given the black candidates over the years - Sharpton, Jackson, Chisolm, Keyes namely. By your poorly thought out rationale, they should have all been president.

The better man won. Get over it. Stop blaming race.


I agree here. McCain was outclassed and out manuevered. Obama offered up a change in direction. Palin had very little to do with losing the seat for McCain. He was doomed from the word go.

[Skybird]

As I see it, she does not command the media, AVG. The media stalk on her because it is a given that sooner or later she produces another laugh at her own cost that will make the nation(s) laughing.

And the goldfish remark I only remember because it was one of the most intellectual remarks she ever made. I always try to see the best in people.

[AVGWarhawk]

As I see it, she does not command the media, AVG. The media stalk on her because it is a given that sooner or later she produces another laugh at her own cost that will make the nation(s) laughing.

And the goldfish remark I only remember because it was one of the most intellectual remarks she ever made. I always try to see the best in people.

Sorry but I think it is more then just waiting on a laugh. She is in command of something Skybird. Why is she booked at speaking engagements? Are these people waiting for a good laugh at her expense? Personally I would spend my money to laugh at Larry the Cable Guy. Sarah does not qualify for the Blue Collar Comedy Tour. Was it she would do more and generate more cash by working the circuit with appearances and speaking? Why yes of course. What you are seeing might be the dumbest person the world yet she is becoming very influential. If she is so dreaded and so dumb why is she booked for these events. Why is she seen more than Michele Obama and Hillary Clinton combined?

[mookiemookie]

Sorry but I think it is more then just waiting on a laugh. She is in command of something Skybird. Why is she booked at speaking engagements? Are these people waiting for a good laugh at her expense? Personally I would spend my money to laugh at Larry the Cable Guy. Sarah does not qualify for the Blue Collar Comedy Tour. Was it she would do more and generate more cash by working the circuit with appearances and speaking? Why yes of course. What you are seeing might be the dumbest person the world yet she is becoming very influential. If she is so dreaded and so dumb why is she booked for these events. Why is she seen more than Michele Obama and Hillary Clinton combined?

She's popular for the very same reason that shows like American Idol and The Bachelor are hits. Americans love mindless crap.

[AVGWarhawk]

She's popular for the very same reason that shows like American Idol and The Bachelor are hits. Americans love mindless crap.

I would have to disagree. The woman has booked more speaking engagements than the likes of Joe Biden and Bill Clinton could ever hope to schedule. Even the Blue Collar Comedy Tour takes a break.

[Skybird]

Okay AVG, you convinced us: Palin is a brilliant intellectual, she is well in knowledge, wise, and truly educated. By being that, she truly attracts a huge crowd of people who are seeking right these qualities, and think she speaks their minds. That's what makes her a perfect representative of that crowd.

And that's why I avoid all that crowd alltogether. ;) I just can't stand to be outsmarted by so many brilliant, shining people. ;)

[AVGWarhawk]

Okay AVG, you convinced us: Palin is a brilliant intellectual, she is well in knowledge, wise, and truly educated.

Next topic please.


No where did I say she was brilliant nor did I say she was well in knowlege, wise or truly educated. Please find that where I stated this. I simply stated she is on demand. No one here including yourself can provide a legitimate answer as to why. For the most part all we have thus far is she is a clown. For such a clown she is in the lime light all the time. Can anyone explain why? So please finish the topic before we move on.

[UnderseaLcpl]

She's popular for the very same reason that shows like American Idol and The Bachelor are hits. Americans love mindless crap.

I will never think of myself as a cynic again.

[mookiemookie]

I will never think of myself as a cynic again.

One-upped you on cynicism, did I? :D

[Skybird]

No where did I say she was brilliant nor did I say she was well in knowlege, wise or truly educated. Please find that where I stated this. I simply stated she is on demand. No one here including yourself can provide a legitimate answer as to why. For the most part all we have thus far is she is a clown. For such a clown she is in the lime light all the time. Can anyone explain why? So please finish the topic before we move on.
Why she is in demand, is very simple to anser: smple solutions for simple minds. The baudi8ence attracted by her is a mirror of her "qualities".

Lance said mookiemookie were a cynic in his comment. Lance is wrong here. mookiemookie brought it to the point. A comparable comment like his was on my lips - but I bit them.

[Moeceefus]

She's popular for the very same reason that shows like American Idol and The Bachelor are hits. Americans love mindless crap.


Must be why Obama took off so well at first.

[AVGWarhawk]

Why she is in demand, is very simple to anser: smple solutions for simple minds. The baudi8ence attracted by her is a mirror of her "qualities".

Lance said mookiemookie were a cynic in his comment. Lance is wrong here. mookiemookie brought it to the point. A comparable comment like his was on my lips - but I bit them.


So now we are saying the people who gaither for these events that have Palin as a keynote speaker are simple? Or is it her qualities are the reason for the audience to attend? What might these qualities be? That she is a simple minded funny person and that is what America likes to see as Mookie would have it? All Mookie has done is side step the real reason people show up to hear Palin speak. It is not for a comedy show or a good laugh to be sure. It is people of like minds who apparently are simple minded that know no better according to you. In short, we are still in the mist as to why people show up. You say simple people. Mookie says it is a comedy of errors. Is it really?

[Sailor Steve]

I will never think of myself as a cynic again.
You don't have to. I'm glad to do it for you. :D

[Biggles]

No where did I say she was brilliant nor did I say she was well in knowlege, wise or truly educated. Please find that where I stated this. I simply stated she is on demand. No one here including yourself can provide a legitimate answer as to why. For the most part all we have thus far is she is a clown. For such a clown she is in the lime light all the time. Can anyone explain why? So please finish the topic before we move on.

Maybe noone can give us an answer. I for one cannot see how she could draw so much attention, just like I still wonder to this day why the world decided that I had to know who Paris Hilton is...

Regarding the actual topic here....If Palin did compare herself to Shakespeare (I'm thoroughly confused by everything I've read of that link and in this thread) then I'd say that if she isn't stupid (which ofcourse is relative) then she is at the very least cocky. Anyone here read her book? If yes, do you think that it's of such quality that schoolchildren around the world will read, analyze and perform plays based on it 400 years from now? I very much doubt it to be honest.

No matter what you think of Palin, or what you think she is capable of, comparing her to Shakespeare is just...silly. Utterly silly. Not even Monty Python could make that up...

[Moeceefus]

No matter what you think of Palin, or what you think she is capable of, comparing her to Shakespeare is just...silly. Utterly silly. Not even Monty Python could make that up...



Who cares? Shakespeare is highly overrated anyways. :DL

[Biggles]

Who cares? Shakespeare is highly overrated anyways. :DL

Oh I agree!:D Those sonnets nearly became the end of me in English class last year...oooh the horror...but his influence cannot be ignored, nor the fact that we still read his work after several hundred years!

[Moeceefus]

Oh I agree!:D Those sonnets nearly became the end of me in English class last year...oooh the horror...but his influence cannot be ignored, nor the fact that we still read his work after several hundred years!


Who writes that doesn't have a Shakespearian like comparison in thier head afterwards? I'd say its the norm. Just like watching a kung fu movie and feeling like Bruce Lee afterwards.

[AVGWarhawk]

Maybe noone can give us an answer. I for one cannot see how she could draw so much attention, just like I still wonder to this day why the world decided that I had to know who Paris Hilton is...



Good point. However, sex sells and Hilton got the sex tapes and the suggestive commercials. She has the Hilton fortune to back her tomfoolery.

What is Palin selling?

[Biggles]

Good point. However, sex sells and Hilton got the sex tapes and the suggestive commercials. She has the Hilton fortune to back her tomfoolery.

What is Palin selling?

Well...as I think someone mentioned earlier, Palin has been regarded as good looking by the press a number of times (I for one cannot see why, but that's me). And well, she does get attention and headlines, thus organizations and companies that crave attention might be interested in her. Now the real problem is to explain why she gets attention...well I know I sure as hell raised an interested (and disbelieved) eyebrow when I heard her talking about how close she lived to Russia and that she could actually see it from her home...

[UnderseaLcpl]

Who the hell is Paris Hilton?

[Biggles]

Who the hell is Paris Hilton?

Oh how I wish I didn't know...

[TLAM Strike]

Who the hell is Paris Hilton?
Its a hotel in the Capital of France... :yeah:

:O:

[Takeda Shingen]

Well...as I think someone mentioned earlier, Palin has been regarded as good looking by the press a number of times (I for one cannot see why, but that's me).

Oh I certainly think that she is attractive. I also happen to think that she is an idiot.

[Skybird]

So now we are saying the people who gaither for these events that have Palin as a keynote speaker are simple? Or is it her qualities are the reason for the audience to attend? What might these qualities be? That she is a simple minded funny person and that is what America likes to see as Mookie would have it? All Mookie has done is side step the real reason people show up to hear Palin speak. It is not for a comedy show or a good laugh to be sure. It is people of like minds who apparently are simple minded that know no better according to you. In short, we are still in the mist as to why people show up. You say simple people. Mookie says it is a comedy of errors. Is it really?

You get judged by the company you seek. If you seek the company of wolves, that probably is because you're wolf. If you seek the company of an idiot, it helps if you are an idiot yourself. If it walks like a duck, squawks like a duck and looks like a duck - it probably is a duck.

As you say so nicely in English: birds of same feather flock together. We have an eqivalent to that in German, but yours has the advantage of ryhmes. :D

A week ago, there was an essay in a German paper about the way those ten Russian spies hid in America by blending into it' s background, copying it's idols, using it's habits and adorable goals of it'S way of living for mimikry. That many of the characteristics of those spies - for example that good-looking woman who even took almost nude shots and behaved like a starlet or a glamour girl in order to blend into the cultural background of contemporary America - just served like a mirror in which America was to gaze at itself, was something that american media, as far as I have moinitored their coverage of the story, just missed completely.

[Torvald Von Mansee]

Who the hell is Paris Hilton?

One of the vibrant go-getting prime movers who shouldn't be burdened by taxes on all the meritorious wealth she has justly earned!!!

[UnderseaLcpl]

One of the vibrant go-getting prime movers who shouldn't be burdened by taxes on all the meritorious wealth she has justly earned!!!

How has she not earned it? Presumably, millions of people enjoy whatever the hell it is she does, and they are willing to pay for it with the fruits of their labor. She started in an advantageous positon, but how is that not just? Everybody starts in a different position.

What you really mean to say is that you want some of what she has for whatever purpose you may deem appropriate.

Now, here's the real question. Why would I ask a stupid question like "Who the hell is Paris Hilton"?

[antikristuseke]

Oh I certainly think that she is attractive. I also happen to think that she is an idiot.

With a little bit of rohyhpnol that could bean amazing combination, with political power, not so much.

[AVGWarhawk]

You get judged by the company you seek. If you seek the company of wolves, that probably is because you're wolf. If you seek the company of an idiot, it helps if you are an idiot yourself. If it walks like a duck, squawks like a duck and looks like a duck - it probably is a duck.

As you say so nicely in English: birds of same feather flock together. We have an eqivalent to that in German, but yours has the advantage of ryhmes. :D

Good point! However, being human nature as it is the focal point is always on blunders or acts of stupidity. This goes for all people in the media's eye. And that my friend is what sells good TV and newspapers.

[Skybird]

Good point! However, being human nature as it is the focal point is always on blunders or acts of stupidity. This goes for all people in the media's eye. And that my friend is what sells good TV and newspapers.

Stupidity to me is a sociological, not a psychological symptom.

Three years ago, in a different context, I quoted this text by Bonhoeffer, a German resisting to the Nazis. His precise observation and conclusion is stunning, I agree with this text 100%, and always did.


Bonhoeffer was an evangelic theologist participating in the resistance against Hitler. For his convictions he was arrested in 1943, and murdered in 1945. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dietrich_Bonhoeffer


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Dummheit ist ein gefährlicherer Feind des Guten als Bosheit. Gegen das Böse läßt sich protestieren, es läßt sich bloßstellen, es läßt sich notfalls mit Gewalt verhindern, das Böse trägt immer den Keim der Selbstzerstörung in sich, indem es mindestens ein Unbehagen im Menschen zurückläßt. Gegen die Dummheit sind wir wehrlos. Weder mit Protesten noch mit Gewalt läßt sich hier etwas ausrichten; Gründe verfangen nicht; Tatsachen, die dem eigenen Vorurteil widersprechen, brauchen einfach nicht geglaubt zu werden – in solchen Fällen wird der Dumme sogar kritisch -, und wenn sie unausweichlich sind, können sie einfach als nichtssagende Einzelfälle beiseite geschoben werden. Dabei ist der Dumme im Unterschied zum Bösen restlos mit sich selbst zufrieden; ja, er wird sogar gefährlich, indem er leicht gereizt zum Angriff übergeht. Daher ist dem Dummen gegenüber mehr Vorsicht geboten als gegenüber dem Bösen. Niemals werden wir mehr versuchen, den Dummen durch Gründe zu überzeugen; es ist sinnlos und gefährlich.
Um zu wissen, wie wir der Dummheit beikommen können, müssen wir ihr Wesen zu verstehen versuchen. Soviel ist sicher, daß sie nicht wesentlich ein intellektueller, sondern ein menschlicher Defekt ist. Es gibt intellektuell außerordentlich bewegliche Menschen, die dumm sind, und intellektuell sehr schwerfällige, die alles andere als dumm sind. Diese Entdeckung machen wir zu unserer Überraschung anläßlich bestimmter Situationen. Dabei gewinnt man weniger den Eindruck, daß die Dummheit ein angeborener Defekt ist, als daß unter bestimmten Umständen die Menschen dumm gemacht werden, bzw. sich dumm machen lassen. Wir beobachten weiterhin, daß abgeschlossen und einsam lebende Menschen diesen Defekt seltener zeigen als zur Gesellung neigende oder verurteilte Menschen und Menschengruppen.So scheint die Dummheit vielleicht weniger ein psychologisches als ein soziologisches Problem zu sein. Sie ist eine besondere Form der Einwirkung geschichtlicher Umstände auf den Menschen, eine psychologische Begleiterscheinung bestimmter äußerer Verhältnisse.
Bei genauem Hinsehen zeigt sich, daß jede starke, äußere Machtentfaltung, sei sie politischer oder religiöser Art, einen großen Teil der Menschen mit Dummheit schlägt. Ja, es hat den Anschein, als sei dies geradezu ein soziologisch-psychologisches Gesetz. Die Macht der einen braucht die Dummheit der anderen. Der Vorgang ist dabei nicht der, daß bestimmte – also etwa intellektuelle – Anlagen des Menschen plötzlich verkümmern oder ausfallen, sondern daß unter dem überwältigenden Eindruck der Machtentfaltung dem Menschen seine innere Selbstständigkeit geraubt wird und daß dieser nun – mehr oder weniger unbewußt – darauf verzichtet, zu den sich ergebenden Lebenslagen ein eigenes Verhalten zu finden. Daß der Dumme oft bockig ist, darf nicht darüber hinweg täuschen, daß er nicht selbstständig ist. Man spürt es geradezu im Gespräch mit ihm, daß man es gar nicht mit ihm selbst, mit ihm persönlich, sondern mit über ihn mächtig gewordenen Schlagworten, Parolen etc. zu tun hat. Er ist in einem Banne, er ist verblendet, er ist in seinem eigenen Wesen mißbraucht, mißhandelt. So zum willenlosen Instrument geworden, wir der Dumme auch zu allem Bösen fähig sein und zugleich unfähig, dies als Böses zu erkennen. Dadurch werden Menschen für immer zugrunde gerichtet werden können.
Dummheit ist ein gefährlicherer Feind des Guten als Bosheit. Gegen das Böse läßt sich protestieren, es läßt sich bloßstellen, es läßt sich notfalls mit Gewalt verhindern, das Böse trägt immer den Keim der Selbstzerstörung in sich, indem es mindestens ein Unbehagen im Menschen zurückläßt. Gegen die Dummheit sind wir wehrlos. Weder mit Protesten noch mit Gewalt läßt sich hier etwas ausrichten; Gründe verfangen nicht; Tatsachen, die dem eigenen Vorurteil widersprechen, brauchen einfach nicht geglaubt zu werden – in solchen Fällen wird der Dumme sogar kritisch -, und wenn sie unausweichlich sind, können sie einfach als nichtssagende Einzelfälle beiseite geschoben werden. Dabei ist der Dumme im Unterschied zum Bösen restlos mit sich selbst zufrieden; ja, er wird sogar gefährlich, indem er leicht gereizt zum Angriff übergeht. Daher ist dem Dummen gegenüber mehr Vorsicht geboten als gegenüber dem Bösen. Niemals werden wir mehr versuchen, den Dummen durch Gründe zu überzeugen; es ist sinnlos und gefährlich.
Um zu wissen, wie wir der Dummheit beikommen können, müssen wir ihr Wesen zu verstehen versuchen. Soviel ist sicher, daß sie nicht wesentlich ein intellektueller, sondern ein menschlicher Defekt ist. Es gibt intellektuell außerordentlich bewegliche Menschen, die dumm sind, und intellektuell sehr schwerfällige, die alles andere als dumm sind. Diese Entdeckung machen wir zu unserer Überraschung anläßlich bestimmter Situationen. Dabei gewinnt man weniger den Eindruck, daß die Dummheit ein angeborener Defekt ist, als daß unter bestimmten Umständen die Menschen dumm gemacht werden, bzw. sich dumm machen lassen. Wir beobachten weiterhin, daß abgeschlossen und einsam lebende Menschen diesen Defekt seltener zeigen als zur Gesellung neigende oder verurteilte Menschen und Menschengruppen.So scheint die Dummheit vielleicht weniger ein psychologisches als ein soziologisches Problem zu sein. Sie ist eine besondere Form der Einwirkung geschichtlicher Umstände auf den Menschen, eine psychologische Begleiterscheinung bestimmter äußerer Verhältnisse.
Bei genauem Hinsehen zeigt sich, daß jede starke, äußere Machtentfaltung, sei sie politischer oder religiöser Art, einen großen Teil der Menschen mit Dummheit schlägt. Ja, es hat den Anschein, als sei dies geradezu ein soziologisch-psychologisches Gesetz. Die Macht der einen braucht die Dummheit der anderen. Der Vorgang ist dabei nicht der, daß bestimmte – also etwa intellektuelle – Anlagen des Menschen plötzlich verkümmern oder ausfallen, sondern daß unter dem überwältigenden Eindruck der Machtentfaltung dem Menschen seine innere Selbstständigkeit geraubt wird und daß dieser nun – mehr oder weniger unbewußt – darauf verzichtet, zu den sich ergebenden Lebenslagen ein eigenes Verhalten zu finden. Daß der Dumme oft bockig ist, darf nicht darüber hinweg täuschen, daß er nicht selbstständig ist. Man spürt es geradezu im Gespräch mit ihm, daß man es gar nicht mit ihm selbst, mit ihm persönlich, sondern mit über ihn mächtig gewordenen Schlagworten, Parolen etc. zu tun hat. Er ist in einem Banne, er ist verblendet, er ist in seinem eigenen Wesen mißbraucht, mißhandelt. So zum willenlosen Instrument geworden, wir der Dumme auch zu allem Bösen fähig sein und zugleich unfähig, dies als Böses zu erkennen. Dadurch werden Menschen für immer zugrunde gerichtet werden können.


Translation:

Stupidity is a more dangerous enemy to the good than is evil. Against evil one can protest, it can be exposed, if necessary it can be prevented by the use of force, the evil always carries the seed of it's own self-destruction inside itself, in the way that it always, at least, leaves a certain uneasiness in man. But against stupidity we are defenseless. Neither protest nor violence can achieve something; reasons and arguments don't get thought about, facts that are contradicting one's own prejudice simply must not be believed - in such cases the stupid even becomes critical -, and if it cannot be avoided to accept them nevertheless, they get cleaned off the table as unimportant exceptions/isolated cases. At the same time the stupid, different to the evil one, is completely satisfied with himself; he even becomes dangerous by going on the attack when being irritated. Therefore, when dealing with the stupid, more caution is needed than when dealing the evil one. Never again we will try to convince the stupid by reasons and arguments, it is in vain, and dangerous.
In order to know how we could deal with stupidity, we need to understand it's essential nature. So much is sure: that it is not so much an intellectual deficit, but a human defect. There are very intellectual people, who are stupid, and there are people who intellectually are a bit slow, but in no way are stupid. to our surprise, we make this discovery on the occasion of certain situations, where we get the impression that stupidity is not so much an innate defect, but that under certain conditions humans are being made stupid, or rather allow to be turned into stupids. Further we observe that that isolated and lonely living people tend less often towards this defect, than people that tend to live or are forced to live in a more social and group-oriented manner. So, stupidity seems to be less a psychological and more a sociological problem. It is a special form of influence of historical conditions that affects man, a psychological inner concomitant of certain outer conditions. Looking closer at it, it becomes clear that every kind of outer display of power, wether it be of political or religious nature, makes a huge part of the people to be dumb , even more, it almost seems to be a sociological-psychological law. the power of the one - needs the stupidity of the other. the process is not that certain inherent predispositions suddenly get stunted, or fail completely, but that by the overwhelming impression of the display of power man gets stripped of his inner independence, so that from now on he - more or less subconsciously - declines to find his own behavior towards the emerging different challenges and situations of his daily life. That the stupid often is stubborn cannot hide the fact that he is lacking in independence. One almost feels it when talking with him, that one is not dealing with himself, but with catch-phrases and slogans. He is under a spell, he is blinded, in his own nature he is abused and mistreated. Being turned into a tool without will, the stupid is able to do all evil things, at the same time being unable to realise the evil in his deeds. In this way, man can be destroyed forever.

[Tribesman]

Is it true that Palins daughter has been turned down by the TV networks when she attempted to sell herself as a reality TV show featuring her rekindled relationship and engagement with the father of her child?

[AVGWarhawk]

Is it true that Palins daughter has been turned down by the TV networks when she attempted to sell herself as a reality TV show featuring her rekindled relationship and engagement with the father of her child?

I would have turned it down also. Who would watch the damn thing anyway?

[AVGWarhawk]

Stupidity to me is a sociological, not a psychological symptom.

Three years ago, in a different context, I quoted this text by Bonhoeffer, a German resisting to the Nazis. His precise observation and conclusion is stunning, I agree with this text 100%, and always did.

In short, "You can not fix stupid." :up:

[ryanglavin]

I would have turned it down also. Who would watch the damn thing anyway?

We have american Idol and The Bachelor. Quoting my grandfather on matters such as these, "White Trash will flock!"

[Tribesman]

We have american Idol and The Bachelor. Quoting my grandfather on matters such as these, "White Trash will flock!"
They did offer to bring in her future mother in law to add some personality to the show.
After all a hillbilly heroin angle does give a love story about an unwed mother a nice reality TV taste

[AVGWarhawk]

We have american Idol and The Bachelor. Quoting my grandfather on matters such as these, "White Trash will flock!"

And that is the sad reality of reality TV and America. :88)

[krashkart]

What's so real about reality TV? I have yet to see a "Survivor: Antarctica". NASA TV shows more of reality. :O:

Back to the topic, Palin is probably a really nice person in person and if nothing else, at least she keeps it real. She is unashamed of her human mistakes and that might just be part of what draws people to her.

[AVGWarhawk]

Well, something draws the people. She is carrying some sort of influence.

[Takeda Shingen]

What's so real about reality TV? I have yet to see a "Survivor: Antarctica". NASA TV shows more of reality. :O:

You know, I was really excited when survivor first came out. I thought that the people were going to be required to, well, survive. I figured wrong.

[Vladivostok]

You know, I was really excited when survivor first came out. I thought that the people were going to be required to, well, survive. I figured wrong.

To me the whole concept is at fault when they leave a group of people on an uninhabited island in the Pacific, especially if these are completley out of their environment considering most people (I include myself here) have little or none previous experience of surviving in such a milieu. Sadly enough.

If we want true survival shows they'd better dump them in places closer to home, like ... Vancouver Island? Hippa Island?

I think we need to move closer to Palin's own territory and keep our eyes open for that survival show set in Alaska! No idea how much of it is pre set but at least they're enduring hardships (without them annoying challenges and competitions) for us to enjoy in a comfortable couch and a nice cup 'o tea. ;)

[Platapus]

The British show "Now get out of this" was way way better than survivor.

My record for watching the survivor is 8 minutes. That was how long it took to become disgusted with the show, crawl over The Frau, cop some feels on the way, and change the TV station.

[Flaxpants]

Whatever you may think of Sarah Palin, the only thing she has in common with Shakespeare is a beard.

[SteamWake]

Whatever you may think of Sarah Palin, the only thing she has in common with Shakespeare is a beard.

What no horns? How about a little hitler mostache?

anyhow..

Palin's post to face book deleted and later restored... REFUDIATED!!! :haha:

http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/07/23/sarah-palin-facebook-post-deleted-thanks-social-experiment/?test=latestnews