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SteamWake
07-18-10, 09:00 AM
Several 'streaming' sites shut down...


After the U.S. Government took action against several sites connected to movie streaming recently, nerves are jangling over the possibility that this is just the beginning of a wider crackdown. Now it appears that a free blogging platform has been taken down by its hosting provider on orders from the U.S. authorities on grounds of “a history of abuse”. More than 73,000 blogs are out of action as a result.


http://torrentfreak.com/u-s-authorities-shut-down-wordpress-host-with-73000-blogs-100716/

Moeceefus
07-18-10, 10:14 AM
Good ole dems.

Platapus
07-18-10, 10:46 AM
Well, if these sites were in violation of the law or regulations, this is a good thing. :yep:

nikimcbee
07-18-10, 10:50 AM
That probably why they don't allow pirate site discussion here.

aergistal
07-18-10, 12:00 PM
That probably why they don't allow pirate site discussion here.

...rule that seems to be applied only to new users to be fair, while others get the à la Nelson blind eye treatment.

mookiemookie
07-18-10, 12:18 PM
...rule that seems to be applied only to new users to be fair, while others get the à la Nelson blind eye treatment.

Examples?

aergistal
07-18-10, 12:40 PM
Examples?

I don't like pointing the finger at people. It's also somehow normal to be biased against new users since you don't know what to expect of them.

Yet a rule should be a rule for all.

Sailor Steve
07-18-10, 01:26 PM
I don't like pointing the finger at people.
Don't make claims unless you're willing to back them up. I could say all sorts of nasty things about any group and then fall back on "I don't like to point fingers."

Jimbuna
07-18-10, 01:31 PM
That probably why they don't allow pirate site discussion here.

Yeah....a pretty good policy it is too :yep:

aergistal
07-18-10, 01:43 PM
Don't make claims unless you're willing to back them up. I could say all sorts of nasty things about any group and then fall back on "I don't like to point fingers."

I protested when I noticed that, so it's in my recent post history for anyone interested. Newcomers are attentioned, I know because that's the story of my very own first posts here.

And I don't like to do this, but next time I see it I will report it.

CaptainHaplo
07-18-10, 01:52 PM
You should report it every time.

However - it is important to note that there is a big difference in discussing pirating (as in does copy protection stop pirates or hurt legit consumers) and giving sources to or encouraging pirating. The first will sometimes be allowed because it does not violate the rules here - where the second does.

Pirating is wrong - so if you do it and admit it here - you will be called on the carpet for it. If you do it and don't say anything about it here, then no one here can do anything about it.

As Neal says - what you do on your pc is your business - but dont discuss it here.

Takeda Shingen
07-18-10, 02:03 PM
I protested when I noticed that, so it's in my recent post history for anyone interested. Newcomers are attentioned, I know because that's the story of my very own first posts here.

And I don't like to do this, but next time I see it I will report it.

There is a tremendous difference between questioning if a member has a pirated copy and discussing the circumvention of DRM. I didn't issue you the infraction but agree with it. All you got was a slap on the wrist; no points, no brig time. Moreover, it was almost two months ago. It's probably time to get over it.

GoldenRivet
07-18-10, 02:07 PM
I protested when I noticed that, so it's in my recent post history for anyone interested. Newcomers are attentioned, I know because that's the story of my very own first posts here.

And I don't like to do this, but next time I see it I will report it.


one big source of the problem... newcomers display an overwhelming unfamiliarity with the rules.


the rules all members are supposed to read when they join.

apparently a lot of folks dont.

aergistal
07-18-10, 02:22 PM
There is a tremendous difference between questioning if a member has a pirated copy and discussing the circumvention of DRM. I didn't issue you the infraction but agree with it. All you got was a slap on the wrist; no points, no brig time. Moreover, it was almost two months ago. It's probably time to get over it.

According to the FAQ there is no such difference:
We do NOT allow discussion or even mention of warez

It was not my intention to trigger this discussion anyway and it's obvious that the rule, by the textbook, is not enforced.

Takeda Shingen
07-18-10, 02:27 PM
First, the poster did not mention warez or piracy in any specific or promotional manner. He accused another member of having a pirated copy. Such behavior is not a violation of the SubSim.com user agreement. Accordingly, no action was taken. That is the intention of the rule. You are looking to justify your case by splitting hairs.


It was not my intention to trigger this discussion anyway and it's obvious that the rule, by the textbook, is not enforced.

Yes, it clearly was your intention to trigger this discussion. I can only reitterate that I hope that you are able to get past it. I also firmly restate that I belive the rule is enforced both logically and fairly.

SteamWake
07-18-10, 02:29 PM
So uhhh yea.. hey ... how about those streaming sites... ?

Takeda Shingen
07-18-10, 02:30 PM
So uhhh yea.. hey ... how about those streaming sites... ?

Sorry SteamWake.

Back to your regularly scheduled programming.

SteamWake
07-18-10, 02:34 PM
Careful what you say on the interwebs lest they backtrack you !!! :haha:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VKYYbwyWtQ&feature=player_embedded

Kind of sad really.

Snestorm
07-18-10, 08:44 PM
73.000 sites shut down, for how many suspected/known of violators?

On the surface, it appears to be a dangeriouse presedent to be setting.

Is this the greatest crimmal sweep in history, or the actions of a government gone crimminal?
(Just questions that come to mind. Scary stuff, either way.)

aergistal
07-19-10, 03:42 AM
I like MoS's approach :haha:

Lawyers for UK dance music label Ministry of Sound have issued thousands of letters to British filesharers this month demanding compensation for alleged copyright theft.
The letters threaten recipients with immediate court action unless they pay immediate compensation in the region of £350.


http://www.techradar.com/news/internet/ministry-of-sound-chases-thousands-of-file-sharing-brits-703966#ixzz0u7FAqUnD