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Patchman123
07-12-10, 10:11 AM
I was on Harris Game Design a few weeks ago and those people are total complete idiots. They'd think that people like us who focus on historical accuracy in games were too "Picky" to say it. They think people like us are picky. Yes, that's right, we're picky to a bunch of nerdy college students like "Imperious_Leader" who like harass and needle people to death for any views that disagree with them. When I specified that a Brewster Buffalo was used in Malaya, a user told me that he asked me a question, saying "Did they use aircraft in two theaters?" Yes, that's the way it was. They think that such things are bull**** to have more accuracy and people like Imperious_Leader can't believe anyone else but himself and his stupid friends, when I present an accurate map of Russia, he thinks it's all wrong because it disagrees with his view of reality, he just says this when I have a dissenting idea about the map of Russia. :damn: :damn: For example. He accuses me of knowing nothing about what I'm talking about and I KNOW several people in Russia, who back me up at every turn.

He says 4 out of 6 are wrong and I named correct Russian territories. This idiot constantly harasses me about this map. My map is correct, but he can't handle people who disagree with him because what the Russians call their territories is bull**** to him. It's all bull**** to his peabrain.
He's an absolute and total *******. Sorry for the language, they're *******s on that server, they're a total bunch of losers who no respect for anyone on that server. Absolutely no respect. They have no respect for people like us. They think we're "picky' on Harris Game Design if we were to tell them about the submarines the Briitsh actually used and the Americans, they'd flay us alive. They just don't care about more historically accurate game pieces at all.


He's an idiot. Sorry about the language. That's the way I feel about Harris Game Design and the arrogant morons who flock to this ******* like a guru. It's asinine because we're talking about Russia you know, and he thinks that oblast names are bull****. He's a total xenophobic douchebag and he wants to control everything because he's always right and any newcomers idea's that challenge his are wrong, no matter how they're right.

Sorry guys.

He cares little about what Russians call their territories and others because it's all bull**** to him because it doesn't exist on his ****ty 1930s era maps that he bought for $ 1.00 at Ebay from some cheap dealer who just wants to make a buck. They don't a give a damn at all. Not one. These people are horrendously apathetic. Their lack of caring about historical accuracy by these stupid college nerds on Harris Game Design makes me want to throw up. This Imperious_Leader's constant harassment of me on that site is disgusting and unwarranted. The Russians call their territories by skaya suffixes, don't bother telling him, IT"S BULL**** BECAUSE IT DISAGREES WITH HIS VIEW ON REALITY.

SteamWake
07-12-10, 10:13 AM
Is it too picky to ask for paragraphs?

mookiemookie
07-12-10, 10:17 AM
Well that was certainly out of left field.

Patchman123
07-12-10, 10:21 AM
Is it too picky to ask for paragraphs?

What?

Patchman123
07-12-10, 10:23 AM
Well that was certainly out of left field.

Is anyone to penalize me for this? I sure hope not, because it's how I feel about Harris Game Design and that guy's love of control of everything on there, because he flips out if he does have control and he's rude and insults and harasses anyone who disagrees with him. He's a control freak.

IMPERIOUS LEADER is a control freak along with many others. Anyone experience the same things I do?

Sailor Steve
07-12-10, 10:35 AM
Is anyone to penalize me for this?
Penalize? No. But you will get some argument from people who have no clue who Harris Game Design is, or what they make.

IMPERIOUS LEADER is a control freak along with many others. Anyone experience the same things I do?
Not me, because I only play subsims and have never heard of him or his company.

Patchman123
07-12-10, 10:41 AM
Penalize? No. But you will get some argument from people who have no clue who Harris Game Design is, or what they make.


Not me, because I only play subsims and have never heard of him or his company.

I play subsims too as well as board games. I love Axis & Allies and I'm sick of these and fed up with them to the point where I want to scream. I want to kick some ass.

That's because you're not on Harris Game Design and have to encounter this idiot!

SteamWake
07-12-10, 10:46 AM
I'm sick of these too... wait.. what... ??

This is over a board game forum :doh: :o :har:

Patchman123
07-12-10, 10:52 AM
I'm sick of these too... wait.. what... ??

This is over a board game forum :doh: :o :har:

Yeah,
I thought this area was about topics not related to submarines and personal reasons.

Weiss Pinguin
07-12-10, 10:55 AM
General Games Discussions: Other Naval Games & All Kinds of Other Games... (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/forumdisplay.php?f=177)

Patchman123
09-09-10, 12:00 AM
http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/ss184/Patchman123/Crap3.jpg


Please excuse the language he wrote me,
I just merely wanted to see Poland in a 1940 game with the Free Polish Forces fighting in the Battle of Britain against the Germans. He was the one that told me it took place in 1939. He played a mean trick on me, the Polish forces fought in 1940, but that's bull**** to him or that the Polish Navy fought in the Atlantic theater. I am quite sane, I just wanted to see the Free Polish Forces in the game, but that's bull**** to him, and represent the role the Polish forces played in the Battle of Britain and I just providing some 1939 background info as well to add Poland, but that's "bull**** about Poland" I had written that my family was from Poland as well, but that's BS, too. He insulted my family in that very message he sent me.

My Rojek heritage he insulted. He insulted the contributions of the Poles in the Battle of Britain.
He also claims that his location is Berlin, Reich Chancellery, while pretending to be an absolute dictator leader, Fuhrer on the internet.

ttp://www.mediafire.com/file/s8m653r57j16b69/harrisgamedesign2.pdf

These are the hateful and Russophobic and Fascistic and Xenophobic comments he has written about persons of Russian descent, deliberately mocking their territorial nomenclature, when in fact sincere authors of cite names, ending in skaya or whatever when talking about Russia, becuase that\'s what they call them, and there is no direct translation for them into English. I want the community to see what Imperious leader has done to me. Please. My dad had to block me from accessing Harris Game Design because of this whole horrible mess involving Imperious leader.


http://map.rin.ru/cgi-bin/main_e.pl?Region=kirov
http://www.mapmonde.org/asia/russia/kirovskaya-oblast/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moskovskaya_oblast%27

He believes that it was crap that Poland was armed with the PZL p.11C fighter plane that they used to fight the Germans with during the Blitzkrieg assault on their country. The Poles fought valiantly for their country, with many fleeing to England to in the RAF, after first fleeing to Romania and France to later join the RAF after France fell to the Germans.
You see what I'm saying?

WarlordATF
09-09-10, 12:31 AM
Your letting this get to you. If you know he's wrong just write him off as another idiot on the internet, there are millions of em. Just state your case and bring your facts and then walk away, if they are not smart enough to research their facts its not really worth taking the time to debate them.

ETR3(SS)
09-09-10, 01:25 AM
Curiosity got the best of me so I checked out that PDF of yours and the Harris Games forums. And my conclusion is it looks like you gave as good as you got. I saw more name calling from you to him then from him to you.:nope:

I think it's was a good move on your fathers part to block you from there. I don't see anything that he has done to you, but you have done to yourself. He disagreed with you and you wouldn't just let it go. Hopefully you have learned from this grasshopper.

Dowly
09-09-10, 02:28 AM
Maybe we should ask Mr. Imperious leader to come over here so he can.. you know.. defend himself. :hmmm:

Tribesman
09-09-10, 02:43 AM
Maybe we should ask Mr. Imperious leader to come over here so he can.. you know.. defend himself.
Isn't Imperious leader the one thats gonna take over ruining North Korea after the dear leader?

Patchman123
09-09-10, 09:04 AM
Isn't Imperious leader the one thats gonna take over ruining North Korea after the dear leader?


No, he likes to think he's a total dictator in control, though on Harris Game Design. He cites his location on http://www.axisandallies.org as Berlin, Reich Chancellery, you know the same Reich Chancellery where Hitler plotted the deaths of millions of people and started a world war that consumed 50 million people.

He likes his Der Führer type locations, like Berlin Reich Chancellery, and Berlin Fuhrer bunker. God, he must really love being in Hitler's shoes, and must really love that place, especially after he and Eva shot them themselves and had their bodies burned so that the Russians wouldn't find them.
They did anyway. Tell him that the Red Army is on his doorstep and we would like to knock and come in for a visit.
:yeah::D
He also claims on Harris Game Design that people like us who want more historical accuracy are picky.
We are not, we just want to see it portrayed more accurately in order to preserve history for future generations. Axis & Allies prides itself on historical accuracy and that whole statement is stupid on his part. He hates historical accuracy, at least when I say it. He says that all the facts that I learned over 15 years of my lifetime are BS from all those archive sources, documents, personal accounts, and thorough research by people like Walter J. Boyne, is BS to this idiot. What else from this idiot and his love for the Holocaust?

He was making anti-Jewish jokes on Board Game Geek, the people on there called it tasteless and stupid. He claimed that he was from "Germany" as well. He loves the Reich Chancellery in Berlin. Does he love Eva Braun too?

http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=3122

Gender: MaleAge:121Location:Berlin, Reich ChancelleryLocal Time:September 09, 2010, 05:54:41 amLanguage:

Gender: MaleAge:121Location:Berlin, Reich ChancelleryLocal Time:September 09, 2010, 05:54:41 amLanguage:Gender: MaleAge:121Location:Berlin, Reich ChancelleryLocal Time:September 09, 2010, 05:54:41 amLanguage:And being down in that stingy little whole. He loves Germany because of the Nazis, which is why he cites his location as Berlin Reich Chancellery. Don't worry about all this. All the oblasts in Russia exist on English maps! PLEASE BELIEVE ME, I'm NOT AN IDIOT OR STUPID. THIS GUY IS LYING AND I HAVE PROOF.

He was making slurs against persons of Russian and Polish ancestry with and insulting Russia and making xenophobic comments about Russians and their territorial nomeclature of skaya that they use. I'll show you an example. English maps have them on the net.
He gives me the credit for inventing them. :haha::haha::haha:
It redirects on Wikipedia, but Imperious leader is too stupid to look it up for himself. There is no direct way to translate it into English. That idiot should know that. Here is Wikipedia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moskovskaya_Oblast

This what Russians and native people over there call their territory and he insulting them by doing this with his slur against Russians and people like them. They call it skaya because of a feminine noun in Russian.

What his girl's name from Odessa, Slutskaya? There is a figure skater from Russia with that name, I use it as a joke. This was a joke.

Anyway, this is what Russian people call it and he made the xenophobic comment on Harris Game Design that I don't care what Russians call their territories and all that and we were talking about Russia and designing the map for Axis & Allies game series. So, he decides to insult the whole Russian people and my friends over there. That little bastard. Anyway, here you go.


Tell that stupid little bastard that on Harris Game Design.
http://www.mediafire.com/file/s8m653r57j16b69/harrisgamedesign2.pdf

Look at this. Oh how Jerry deserves a little kick up his arse. That little Nazi bastard.
http://map.rin.ru/cgi-bin/main_e.pl?Region=leningrad

The Hun will suffer for his crimes. Zhivela Srbija. He will not get away with his insulting comments about Russians. Tell people on Harris Game Design that this clown has been harassing me for the last 3 months. He deserves to be kicked off Harris Game Design.

This guy
These names do exist. I found them in Google, something that cheap narrow-minded ******* is too stupid to do. Sorry for the language.

Let's get that little dirty Hun.

Weiss Pinguin
09-09-10, 10:10 AM
http://knowyourmeme.com/i/000/057/463/original/I_like_where_this_thread_is_going.jpg?1278193007

Tchocky
09-09-10, 11:39 AM
Full steam ahead!

Oberon
09-09-10, 11:44 AM
Ram the torpedoes!

http://reocities.com/Athens/agora/8088/Cruiserdraw2.jpg

Tribesman
09-09-10, 11:52 AM
Full steam ahead!

Does Steam have some sort of DRM?

SteamWake
09-09-10, 11:58 AM
Does Steam have some sort of DRM?

Oh nooo now were in for it...

I was really supprised to see this thread re-surface.

ETR3(SS)
09-09-10, 02:19 PM
Ok, I am going to break this down for you one quote at a time.

No, he likes to think he's a total dictator in control, though on Harris Game Design. He cites his location on http://www.axisandallies.org (http://www.axisandallies.org/) as Berlin, Reich Chancellery, you know the same Reich Chancellery where Hitler plotted the deaths of millions of people and started a world war that consumed 50 million people.This is a WWII based game correct? Maybe his preferred side to play in the game is the Germans and his location on a internet forum *gasp* might be construed a bit of role playing. Go to the SH3 forum here and count the amount to U-boat sigs. Does that mean that deep down all these people are Nazis? What about the people that play SH3 and/or 5 and not 4, does that make them Nazis? No. It's just a game.

He likes his Der Führer type locations, like Berlin Reich Chancellery, and Berlin Fuhrer bunker. God, he must really love being in Hitler's shoes, and must really love that place, especially after he and Eva shot them themselves and had their bodies burned so that the Russians wouldn't find them.
They did anyway. Tell him that the Red Army is on his doorstep and we would like to knock and come in for a visit.
:yeah::DRelevance? Or is this your way of fighting back at him?


He also claims on Harris Game Design that people like us who want more historical accuracy are picky.
We are not, we just want to see it portrayed more accurately in order to preserve history for future generations. Axis & Allies prides itself on historical accuracy and that whole statement is stupid on his part. If Axis & Allies prides itself on historical accuracy and you want more historical accuracy, then maybe you are being picky. If you want to preserve history for future generations than write a history book. Nobody would want to play a game if it stopped being fun and started being a lesson in 1940's geography.


He hates historical accuracy, at least when I say it. He says that all the facts that I learned over 15 years of my lifetime are BS from all those archive sources, documents, personal accounts, and thorough research by people like Walter J. Boyne, is BS to this idiot. What else from this idiot and his love for the Holocaust?I am going to go out on a limb here and say that you are 15. Right? So since the day you popped out of your mother your nose was in the books studying all this? Everybody as their own opinions and points of view. Not everyone of those will coincide with yours, in fact the fast majority will not. I looked up Walter J Boyne, all I got was a retired Col form the USAF that wrote books that have nothing to do with the subject matter here.



He was making anti-Jewish jokes on Board Game Geek, the people on there called it tasteless and stupid. He claimed that he was from "Germany" as well. He loves the Reich Chancellery in Berlin. Does he love Eva Braun too?What no links?

(http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=3122)http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=3122

Gender: MaleAge:121Location:Berlin, Reich ChancelleryLocal Time:September 09, 2010, 05:54:41 amLanguage:

Gender: MaleAge:121Location:Berlin, Reich ChancelleryLocal Time:September 09, 2010, 05:54:41 amLanguage:Gender: MaleAge:121Location:Berlin, Reich ChancelleryLocal Time:September 09, 2010, 05:54:41 amLanguageOMG! Someone call Guinness! This man is 121 years old!

And being down in that stingy little whole. He loves Germany because of the Nazis, which is why he cites his location as Berlin Reich Chancellery. Don't worry about all this.First I see this...

All the oblasts in Russia exist on English maps! PLEASE BELIEVE ME, I'm NOT AN IDIOT OR STUPID. THIS GUY IS LYING AND I HAVE PROOF.Then I see this. And I think this :nope:

He was making slurs against persons of Russian and Polish ancestry with and insulting Russia and making xenophobic comments about Russians and their territorial nomeclature of skaya that they useSo let me get this straight, you can call him an idiot, nazi, etc but when he uses "slurs"...(btw I haven't seen any proof of these slurs but you seem to be quite liberal with the name calling yourself)

. I'll show you an example. English maps have them on the net.
He gives me the credit for inventing them. :haha::haha::haha:
It redirects on Wikipedia, but Imperious leader is too stupid to look it up for himself. There is no direct way to translate it into English. That idiot should know that. Here is Wikipedia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moskovskaya_Oblast If your High School teacher hasn't told you already, Wikipedia is not a credible source to cite. Yes some of the information in there may be correct, but anybody can pretty much put anything they want in there.

This what Russians and native people over there call their territory and he insulting them by doing this with his slur against Russians and people like them. They call it skaya because of a feminine noun in Russian.There we are with claims of slurs against Russians again.

What his girl's name from Odessa, Slutskaya? There is a figure skater from Russia with that name, I use it as a joke. This was a joke. Ok I get it now. You can make jokes about Russians but he can't, it all makes sense now.:doh:

Anyway, this is what Russian people call it and he made the xenophobic comment on Harris Game Design that I don't care what Russians call their territories and all that and we were talking about Russia and designing the map for Axis & Allies game series. So, he decides to insult the whole Russian people and my friends over there. That little bastard. Anyway, here you go.
Newsflash, I could care less what the Russians call their territories as well. It does not make me xenophobic. So technically that's not insulting.

Tell that stupid little bastard that on Harris Game Design.
http://www.mediafire.com/file/s8m653r57j16b69/harrisgamedesign2.pdfOh good you fixed the link for that. To anyone who wants a look, its a 114mb PDF that has pictures of printed out screenshots of some of the discussion. If you look closely he has a nice little filing system for all of them as well.

Zhivela Srbija.I pulled this out of order specifically to ask, WTF does this mean and how is it supposed to get me join your side?

The Hun will suffer for his crimes. He will not get away with his insulting comments about Russians. Tell people on Harris Game Design that this clown has been harassing me for the last 3 months. He deserves to be kicked off Harris Game Design.What insulting comments (again)? Also it is not the duty or responsibility for anyone at Subsim to fight your battles for you on another unrelated game forum/site. And from what I've seen over there and here, you are being the harassing one.

This guy
These names do exist. I found them in Google, something that cheap narrow-minded ******* is too stupid to do. Sorry for the language.OK good great! They exist, you found proof and he doesn't want to listen to you. You are not going to change his mind, least of all by complaining about all of it on a forum he doesn't go to. Bottom line, you are blowing this way out of proportion just because someone disagrees with you.

Tribesman
09-09-10, 03:33 PM
OMG! Someone call Guinness!
yes please:woot:

AVGWarhawk
09-09-10, 03:58 PM
I don't know about calling Guiness but I might drink one or two. :DL

Oberon
09-09-10, 05:03 PM
I don't know about calling Guiness but I might drink one or two. :DL

You're buying. :yeah:

AngusJS
09-09-10, 07:46 PM
I pulled this out of order specifically to ask, WTF does this mean and how is it supposed to get me join your side?I think it means "Long live Serbia".

Anyway, Patchman - relax. Life is too short to take tiffs on the internet so seriously.

Platapus
09-09-10, 08:14 PM
I guess I will ask the obvious question: If you dislike this guy so much, why go to that website/read his posts? :06:

Patchman123
09-09-10, 08:40 PM
I guess I will ask the obvious question: If you dislike this guy so much, why go to that website/read his posts? :06:
Because I want to see the Axis & Allies game improved. Well, I want SH4 to be improved in the much the same way, am I picky then? Are we picky? It would seem like it.

Besides, he has made slurs against my Polish heritage on Harris Game Design. I wrote on there also that my family came from Poland, (which it does, BTW) and he called it bull**** about Poland and all that and insulted the legacy of the Poles fighting for the RAF and the British during the war.
:rotfl2:

Some people on the internet would accuse us of going overboard on Historical Accuracy, as well. Does that make us picky to be able to depict the whole SH4 warfare game correctly. I've already got a lesson in 1940s Geography, thanks to that guy.

Thank you very much.

If it's a minor scuffle, then how come he's been doing this to me CONSTANTLY for the last 4 months and won't stop?
Explain to me that one. He's been doing this for months on end. It has to stop.

Some people out there accuse us of being picky with accuracy and preserving history with Silent Hunter in which IL does it. Does that make us picky, to see historical accuracy preserved in a game? Hell no it doesn't. We preserve the game history of World War II, in much the same way with A&A that I do. That makes us picky, doesn't it?
In the same logic that Imperious leader uses.

Gee that makes us picky doesn't it, along with All Aircraft Arcade and Forgotten Hope. In Imperious leader's mind, we're all "picky" aren't we?

Gee, and I thought that the HGD people were Wikipedia-type people, they cite it alot and seem to mainly understand it.

P.S. ask people from Russia and tell you that they use Skaya oblasts. All my friends do too. He's been harassing me about that for months. They do call it that anyway, BTW. In case you're wondering. All my friends over there call it that, and he has dishonored and insulted them with this crap of his on Harris Game Design.

I found it in Google easily, I'm sure he can too.

Doesn't matter about Wikipedia either. Encyclopedia Britannica uses the same thing as well. Just look up Orel Oblast in Encyclopedia Britannica and they're better than Wikipedia any day.

antikristuseke
09-09-10, 08:44 PM
You seem to be overreacting, but since the internets is serious business, here:
http://rlv.zcache.com/how_about_a_hot_cup_of_shut_the_hell_up_mug-p1688756240090600472om5b_400.jpg
:O:

Patchman123
09-09-10, 09:29 PM
You seem to be overreacting, but since the internets is serious business, here:
http://rlv.zcache.com/how_about_a_hot_cup_of_shut_the_hell_up_mug-p1688756240090600472om5b_400.jpg

Gee thank you very much!

:O:


Those aren't jokes about Russia, those are ethnic slurs insulting their country about their skaya oblast thing. I did that joke to make fun of his obsession with that whole thing.

Too bad Imperious leader won't use his stupid little narrow brain to find it out.

If they're jokes, they're sure as hell not very funny. You don't get it, do you? All my friends who call it skaya, oblast are stupid, right, too? Like Daria and all my friends on the internet, they taught me that they couldn't be translated too easily anyway. So take that, next time. Those are slurs against the Russian nation made by Imperious leader of HArris Game Design and it's about time the world found out it.

You know. I hope he pays for it.

ETR3(SS)
09-09-10, 09:31 PM
Those aren't jokes about Russia, those are ethnic slurs insulting their country about their skaya oblast thing. I did that joke to make fun of his obsession with that whole thing.

Too bad Imperious leader won't use his stupid little narrow brain to find it out.

If they're jokes, they're sure as hell not very funny. You don't get it, do you? All my friends who call it skaya, oblast are stupid, right, too? Like Daria and all my friends on the internet, they taught me that they couldn't be translated too easily anyway. So take that, next time. Those are slurs against the Russian nation made by Imperious leader of HArris Game Design and it's about time the world found out it.

You know. I hope he pays for it.You are just sooo full of teenage anger aren't you?

Takeda Shingen
09-09-10, 09:51 PM
Patchman, I really think it is time to just let it go and move on. I know that you want to stick it to him and show him a thing or two in order to 'win' the argument, but if I may be so bold to present you an outsider's view of your argument:

Whoever that guy is, he sleeps just fine at night, gets up, goes about his business and has a jolly old time. He is not aware of what you are saying and who you are saying it to, nor does he care. Outside of what interaction he has had with you, he pays you no mind.

Conversely, you clearly spend a lot of time stewing over what has been said. You expend an enormous amount of energy on his behalf, plot your revenge against this person and generally spend a whole lot of time thinking about him. He really bothers you; so much so that you have detailed his activity to a group of people that have no connection with him, nor wish to.

Now, you tell me who is winning. Once you can answer that, think about how much longer you want him to continue to win. There is much to be said for the axiom that 'living well is the best revenge', because as long as you continue in this manner, you remain his servant.

ETR3(SS)
09-09-10, 10:00 PM
Honestly Takeda, I think he's beyond any reason and just wants to show the world that he is right. I'd even go so far as to say that one thing is being said to him but he interprets it another way, i.e. these mysterious slurs that I have yet to see proof of.

Takeda Shingen
09-09-10, 10:17 PM
You may be right, but I figured that I might as well take a crack at sound advice. He can take or discard it as he sees fit.

ETR3(SS)
09-09-10, 10:34 PM
Can't say I blame you. I tried to point out a couple of things to him already and it seems he's ignored that and continued on with his crusade.

antikristuseke
09-10-10, 01:11 AM
I tried with something moderately insulting, Takeda tried with reason, thsoe two combined can not possibly fail.:woot:

Editquote
Those aren't jokes about Russia, those are ethnic slurs insulting their country about their skaya oblast thing. I did that joke to make fun of his obsession with that whole thing.

Too bad Imperious leader won't use his stupid little narrow brain to find it out.

If they're jokes, they're sure as hell not very funny. You don't get it, do you? All my friends who call it skaya, oblast are stupid, right, too? Like Daria and all my friends on the internet, they taught me that they couldn't be translated too easily anyway. So take that, next time. Those are slurs against the Russian nation made by Imperious leader of HArris Game Design and it's about time the world found out it.

You know. I hope he pays for it.

I live next to russia, trust me, I get it.

frau kaleun
09-10-10, 01:37 PM
Now, you tell me who is winning. Once you can answer that, think about how much longer you want him to continue to win. There is much to be said for the axiom that 'living well is the best revenge', because as long as you continue in this manner, you remain his servant.

^^yeah that

http://thrivingtoo.typepad.com/thriving_too/images/2008/09/13/wrong.jpg

Weiss Pinguin
09-10-10, 01:56 PM
http://img.myconfinedspace.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/04/17706-1d68e97f5e8457375ed687e587dabe78.jpg