Did I miss something at the end of my campaign?

[flatsixes]

Good morning. I've just finished my first campaign on SH4 with TMO (Thank you Ducimus!) and I was a bit disappointed in the closing. I mean, it just ended - war over - congratulations. You go on to write a book about it. It's not like I was expecting a brass band and hula girls to greet my gallant crew upon our return to Pearl, but nothing? No tonnage stats? No steaming miles? No efficiency rating? Just "buh-bye now?"

I'm not whining, stats or no stats I had an absolute ball playing this sim. I just want to know if I missed something somewhere, because I'd like to fix it before I start on my next campaign (Asian Division this time through.)

Thanks guys.

[WernherVonTrapp]

Ahh yes, I've suffered a few of those myself. Quite anticlimactic, wouldn't you say?

[McHibbins]

Promotions, decorations, end of camapaigns....ja, the devs never were fans of making this moments special....:nope:

[Armistead]

Be a good mod for someone to make. It is dull.

[Diopos]

Well, taking into account the status of UBI's "stock" versions, maybe the devs didn't believe that anybody would play a full campaign to the end anyway ...:hmmm:


:)


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[flatsixes]

I suppose that I could just keep my own log of patrols. That way my First Mate could roll her eyes even further back into her head!!! :salute:

[Admiral8Q]

It's not like I was expecting a brass band and hula girls to greet my gallant crew upon our return to Pearl, but nothing?
That would be really fun if their was some kind of victory video! :cool:

[tomoose]

@ Diopos: LMAO, good one!!:salute:

It would be a good mod if only to have a splash screen or two pop up (i.e. a victorious sub preparing to dock etc) much like the movies shown during the menus at start up.:hmmm:

[ancient46]

From the final patrol log of the Archerfish:
August 15, 1945
0505 Quick dive.
1200 Position.
Lat. 41° 58' N.
Long. 144° 01' E.
1451 Surfaced. Heard over RB0 that President Truman had announced that the Japs surrendered.
1545 Submerged.
2001 Surfaced.
2145 Received ComSubPac serial 32 ordering the end of offensive action.
2300 Received message to go to area 2.


After that they Joined Bennys Peacemakers under the command of R. H. (Ben) Bass that steamed into Tokyo Bay for VJ DAY.

The war ended for most subs with that message, orders to cancel their current mission, and orders for what to do next. The Redfin was ordered to patrol the South China Sea for a while before returning to base. A less than dramatic ending that is mirrored in the game.

[Deephunter]

Where have I heard it....??

"Not with a bang...But with a whimper"...

[flatsixes]

Well, maybe I'll send this to UBISoft for use in the upcoming Silent Hunter VI ("Newbs in the Bathtub")

:D
http://i909.photobucket.com/albums/ac291/k8tbar/EndofCampaign.jpg

[Admiral8Q]

:haha::har::har::har::haha::haha:

[Bubblehead1980]

Orders to steam to Tokyo Bay and when you arrive, the US fleet is at anchor, would be a great ending and thinking it could be maniupulated to do so.The modders could tell us .Or if in asiatic station, orders to return to base and game doesnt end until you arrive in port unless youre not back by say 1 September 45.

[flatsixes]

I really like that idea, Bubblehead. My dad's ship, the USS Tamalpais, was in Tokyo Bay for the formal surrender, and it was evidently quite a sight to behold. Of course, only the shooting part of the war was over. The task of rebuilding was only beginning to be appreciated.

I stay in touch with my dad's shipmates, and one of them sent me these shots of their ship riding at anchor close by the USS Missouri.

http://i909.photobucket.com/albums/ac291/k8tbar/USS%20Tamalpais/USSTAMALPAISAO96TokyoBay2Sept452.jpg

http://i909.photobucket.com/albums/ac291/k8tbar/USS%20Tamalpais/USSTAMALPAISAO96TokyoBay2Sept45c.jpg

http://i909.photobucket.com/albums/ac291/k8tbar/USS%20Tamalpais/USSTAMALPAISAO96TokyoBay2Sept45d.jpg

http://i909.photobucket.com/albums/ac291/k8tbar/USS%20Tamalpais/USSTAMALPAISAO96TokyoBay2Sept45e_1.jpg

Like I said, it must have been really something to see.:salute:

[Platapus]

I had the same issue with SH3.

Both games are pretty emotionally draining. It would be nice for some closure other than the programming credits.

Especially SH4 as we are on the winning side in that game. :woot:

[Bubblehead1980]

Very coo flatsixes that your father was there and you have kept in touch with his friends. Wish I had time I would volunteer to do the traffic, just need a modder to fix it so that it shows up and can move into Tokyo Bay for the Surrender in Sept 45.Could prob be done.....prob have to make sure japanese airbases and ships exit at right date, US ships appear at correct date, make sure the campaign wont end game until say September 4 at midnight.

Edit: I just put a request out in the modders forum for someone with the know how to implement the changes.I volunteered to do the harbor traffic for Tokyo Bay, just need someone with the knowledge on how to make it all come together, I majored in pre law and legal studies in college, the computer courses I took didnt cover this stuff, wish I had been into SH 4 a long time ago, I would have.Oh well.Hopefully someone will be willing to work this out.Any materials anyone has on the ships that were in Tokyo Bay on surrender and positions in the bay, send me a link.Want it to be as accurate as possible.

[flatsixes]

You guys are an awesome bunch. I wish that I could be of some assitance in the modding dept., but I've only just recently qualified on "right click the mouse." I'd be more than happy to lend a hand doing research or providing entertainment (Ever see a lawyer tap dance? Not pretty.)

Here's a listing of the vessels that were present in Tokyo Bay on September 5, 1945 (not yet independently verified). http://everything2.com/title/Allied+ships+present+in+Tokyo+Bay+for+Japan%2527s+ Surrender

Quite a roster, eh?

[Admiral8Q]

Here's a listing of the vessels that were present in Tokyo Bay on September 5, 1945 (not yet independently verified). http://everything2.com/title/Allied+ships+present+in+Tokyo+Bay+for+Japan%2527s+ Surrender

Quite a roster, eh?

I'm sure that would crash the game! :o

[sergei]

Damn impressive list though. :yep:

[Bubblehead1980]

You guys are an awesome bunch. I wish that I could be of some assitance in the modding dept., but I've only just recently qualified on "right click the mouse." I'd be more than happy to lend a hand doing research or providing entertainment (Ever see a lawyer tap dance? Not pretty.)

Here's a listing of the vessels that were present in Tokyo Bay on September 5, 1945 (not yet independently verified). http://everything2.com/title/Allied+ships+present+in+Tokyo+Bay+for+Japan%2527s+ Surrender

Quite a roster, eh?

You are a lawyer flat? I start Law School this Fall:arrgh!:

Thanks for the list, I have been doing some research as well.Doubt could include all of them but could include all the major like the BB's and CV's(notice no fleet carriers were present) then include a couple reps of each type.

I will make sure your father's ship is in there near the Mighty Mo:salute: If anyone can find a visual reference showing the positions of the ships in Tokyo Bay, that would be great so can be accurate.

[flatsixes]

Congratulations, Bubblehead. Law school (if it's successful) is a real brain-changer. Folks that you've known you whole life simply won't believe what a complete &*^%#&* you've managed to become after only a few short months! :O: Really, enjoy the experience. It's the once in a lifetime kind.

I'll hunt around and see if I can find out any information on what ships were anchored where in Tokyo Bay that day. I do remember my father telling me that Halsey sent a squadron of mine sweepers a couple of days ahead of the big boys to clear the harbor, promptly followed by the hospital ships to recover the Allied POW's. My father's ship, the Tamalpais, came into the bay with the hospital ships. (The Tamalpais was new construction, and never carried oil, only fresh water, which, my dad never failed to inform, was infinitely more valuable than oil in the Pacific war, although the USN was late to realize it .) No fleet carriers came into the bay, but instead stood off outside to provide air cover. There was a very real concern that fanatical elements might stage suicide attacks on the fleet, so things were a bit more tense than the pictures let on.

[Solidsnake2234]

I have always wondered. In both German and American campaigns in SHIV, what were to happen if you refuse the order to end offensive actions. Rather, you continue on an endless patrol hunting ships, if possible. Has anyone ever tried something like that?

[fireftr18]

I have always wondered. In both German and American campaigns in SHIV, what were to happen if you refuse the order to end offensive actions. Rather, you continue on an endless patrol hunting ships, if possible. Has anyone ever tried something like that?

The program automatically ends your career at the end of the war. You can't continue.

[ETR3(SS)]

The program automatically ends your career at the end of the war. You can't continue.Not only that but you're then sinking neutral shipping and will negatively impact your renown.

[Armistead]

The mod would be a lot like Fred's early Pearl Harbor start, which I imagine is a lot of work, but his mod makes sense, an end of war mod doesn't.

You could script the traffic, missions, etc, but it would be a mass work depending on what mods you would use it with. Most mods continue traffic until 12/31/45, but you never see it because the war ends. You would have to make every attack platform neutral. If you added all the traffic for the surrender, it would be one laggy load.

The biggest issue is I don't think the game has a career end file that can be adjusted like a carrer start file, so probably no matter what you do the game will end when the japs surrender.

Anyway, if it could be done, it would be a mass undertaking with little reward, not to mention a laggy mess for all the ships at surrender.

[Simmy]

That was a post I made at Ubiloss.
What a friggin let down the ending was. I mean did anyone care at all that we just fought a war that cost 400,000 American lives?
Of course the Japanese or the Germans didn't care considering the losses they took. But Ubibucks is an American company, or are they?:06:

[ETR3(SS)]

...But Ubibucks is an American company, or are they?:06:No they're French.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubisoft

[fastfed]

The program automatically ends your career at the end of the war. You can't continue.

Not true at all, I kept going one time and kept advancing time.. Before I knew it, it was 1980.. Sure enough, I ran into the USS Nimitz carrier unit, but before I could catch up to it, it entered some weird storm and disappeared.. The storm looked funny but before it disappeared I took a quick screen shot

http://dvdmedia.ign.com/dvd/image/FINAL_COUNTDOWN-3_1081799135.jpg


so.. As you can see, you can keep going forward if you want.

I heard of someone advancing to 2012 and they saw old wwii battleships fighting aliens or something, probably BS, but who knows

[Carrollsue]

Good morning. I've just finished my first campaign on SH4 with TMO (Thank you Ducimus!) and I was a bit disappointed in the closing. I mean, it just ended - war over - congratulations. You go on to write a book about it. It's not like I was expecting a brass band and hula girls to greet my gallant crew upon our return to Pearl, but nothing? No tonnage stats? No steaming miles? No efficiency rating? Just "buh-bye now?"

I'm not whining, stats or no stats I had an absolute ball playing this sim. I just want to know if I missed something somewhere, because I'd like to fix it before I start on my next campaign (Asian Division this time through.)

Thanks guys.

:har::D:salute:
I had the same feeling when I step off the plane at El Toro USMC base from Vietnam in 67'

[captgeo]

well.....you can always just start again....:D

[underthepea]

Where have I heard it....??

"Not with a bang...But with a whimper"...

not in the movie "On the Beach?" / just kidding.

OTOH the way I play this game i'd likely to be taken into the jailhouse by MPs, or shot on site, if I made it back, and that's just one mission :o. hehhe (mmm, reminds me of Das Boot, 'tis ending of mine, 'cept the friendly fire bit).