View Full Version : What the heck took so long !
SteamWake
06-29-10, 09:13 PM
US accepts international assistance for Gulf spill
US accepts international assistance in dealing with massive oil spill in Gulf of Mexico
Unbelevable 6 months and more later... :oops:
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/US-accepts-international-apf-4104246595.html?x=0&.v=2
mookiemookie
06-29-10, 09:14 PM
Indeed - not sure why it took so damn long. But 6 months is an exaggeration.
SteamWake
06-30-10, 08:49 AM
Indeed - not sure why it took so damn long. But 6 months is an exaggeration.
Foriegen contries were offering help on nearly day one April 20 of 2010.
They were prohobited due to some law written decades ago (Jones Act) controlling foriegen ships in national waters and the forigen aid was rejected. Rejected in wrighting no less.
Obama (at the time) refuesed to wave this law. The law has been waved in the past and all Obama had to do was to 'say' it was waved and invite our 'allies' to help.
But I am assuming that at the time the fed's figured that they could get this thing under control without outside help and look the hero. They guessed wrong.
Foriegen contries were offering help on nearly day one April 20 of 2010.
Dude, it hasn't been six months since then.
Sailor Steve
06-30-10, 11:22 AM
Dude, it hasn't been six months since then.
Sure it has. My daughter's birthday was yesterday, October 30.
Where have you been?
:rotfl2:
Sure it has. My daughter's birthday was yesterday, October 30.
Where have you been?
:rotfl2:
This is beginning to sound like a bad sci-fi movie! :DL
Sailor Steve
06-30-10, 11:26 AM
Nah. Sometimes I just get a little ahead of myself.
SteamWake
06-30-10, 11:32 AM
Dude, it hasn't been six months since then.
Yea I got my timeline a little screwed up so its been 3 months and a few days.
That doesent deflect the issue.
Sailor Steve
06-30-10, 11:39 AM
Um...still off by a month.
SteamWake
06-30-10, 11:40 AM
Sigh... :haha:
krashkart
06-30-10, 11:49 AM
Happy Easter everyone! :DL
Sorry SW, couldn't resist. :D
Sailor Steve
06-30-10, 11:49 AM
Some days ya just can't win.
It is nice that they offered, and good that we accepted.:sunny:
Sailor Steve
06-30-10, 11:50 AM
Happy Easter everyone! :DL
I'm running ahead of myself; you're behind yourself.
Which of us is worse off?
krashkart
06-30-10, 11:56 AM
I'm running ahead of myself; you're behind yourself.
Which of us is worse off?
I dunno man, but I hope someone around here knows what time it is. I think I might be early for my appointment yesterday. :hmm2:
FIREWALL
06-30-10, 11:57 AM
It was all about EGO. No more ,no less. :nope:
TLAM Strike
06-30-10, 12:43 PM
This is beginning to sound like a bad sci-fi movie! :DL
Well yea, every day all we see on TV is Gulf Oil spill so it must be a repeating time loop...
... wait 'bad' sci-fi? That was an awesome bit of Sci-Fi... (http://memory-alpha.org/wiki/Cause_and_Effect)
:O:
GoldenRivet
06-30-10, 12:46 PM
Indeed - not sure why it took so damn long. But 6 months is an exaggeration.
it is an exaggeration.
closer to 3 months.
but thats only because it took this empty box of an administration 3 months to even recognize that there was a problem
krashkart
06-30-10, 12:53 PM
Sheer lunacy. How could they not accept that help from the get-go.
Platapus
06-30-10, 05:34 PM
It was all about EGO. No more ,no less. :nope:
Pride is a terrible vice. This has happened before when other countries offer us help in disasters. Presidents seem to feel it is a sign of weakness to accept help. :nope:
Sailor Steve
06-30-10, 05:42 PM
closer to 3 months.
Barely two months, if it happened April 20th. Or was that when the help was first offered.
Is there a possibility that the president delayed accepting help because BP assured him they had it under control? People sure do like to blame those they don't like, whether the blame is deserved or not.
krashkart
06-30-10, 09:01 PM
Excellent point, Sailor Steve. :hmmm:
EDIT - It's easier to blame the most obvious suspect, at first anyway.
Zachstar
06-30-10, 09:05 PM
Wow talk about sillyness sinking your own point.
nikimcbee
06-30-10, 09:26 PM
Sigh... :haha:
okay, everybody hog-pile on SW!:haha:
Aramike
06-30-10, 09:39 PM
I tend to sit in the camp that understands that there was very little that Obama could have actually done regarding the spill. However, before anyone thinks I'm giving him a pass, understand this: he didn't even do the LITTLE that he could have done, such as accepting early aid and expediting federal approval to LA for precautionary measures.
Finally, what he actually DID do such as the moratorium on drilling does absolutely nothing to address the crisis at hand.Is there a possibility that the president delayed accepting help because BP assured him they had it under control? People sure do like to blame those they don't like, whether the blame is deserved or not. I'm sorry, Steve, but that doesn't fly. Everyone in the world knew that BP had no control of the situation. There's no reason to believe that the Obama Administration had somehow missed the memo, as it were. And if they had, that would speak of incompetence of the highest order.
Sailor Steve
06-30-10, 10:04 PM
I'm sorry, Steve, but that doesn't fly. Everyone in the world knew that BP had no control of the situation. There's no reason to believe that the Obama Administration had somehow missed the memo, as it were. And if they had, that would speak of incompetence of the highest order.
My point wasn't about what he could have done or when. I'm not really qualified to argue about that. My point is that I constantly see hardcore "I'm right and you're stupid" coming from both sides of every argument. I'm tired of shallow people who would rather point fingers at the other side than have an actual discussion.
Aramike
06-30-10, 11:55 PM
My point wasn't about what he could have done or when. I'm not really qualified to argue about that. My point is that I constantly see hardcore "I'm right and you're stupid" coming from both sides of every argument. I'm tired of shallow people who would rather point fingers at the other side than have an actual discussion.I don't disagree with that, but there are times when fingers need to be pointed for accountability purposes. This is one of them, I think.
Torvald Von Mansee
07-01-10, 12:02 AM
Obama could personally capture Osama Bin Laden, and the righties around here would find something to criticize about it.
Platapus
07-01-10, 05:38 AM
Obama could personally capture Osama Bin Laden, and the righties around here would find something to criticize about it.
I am reminded of a quote by LBJ
"If tonight, I were to walk across the surface of the Potomac River, the headlines in the morning's papers would be 'LBJ can't swim!'".
I am reminded of a quote by LBJ
"If tonight, I were to walk across the surface of the Potomac River, the headlines in the morning's papers would be 'LBJ can't swim!'".
:haha::haha:
Unbelevable 6 months and more later... :oops:
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/US-accepts-international-apf-4104246595.html?x=0&.v=2
And it might make it worse that people around the world had been offering to help us since day 1.
But thanks to our idiot president they were all turned down.
Aramike
07-01-10, 11:08 AM
Obama could personally capture Osama Bin Laden, and the righties around here would find something to criticize about it.So wait ... are we now implying that a president can actually do no wrong because that the most partisan believes that EVERYTHING is wrong?
I see a lot of anecdotes here, but very little in the way of attempting to show how Obama didn't badly screw up the oil spill situation.
Sailor Steve
07-01-10, 11:14 AM
Obama could personally capture Osama Bin Laden, and the righties around here would find something to criticize about it.
And if Bush had personally captured Osama Bin Laden the lefties would have found something to complain about.
You (and your opposites here) seem bent on proving my "I'm right and your stupid) observation. A little actual discussion would be nice from both you and Dutch.
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