Obama's Internet Kill Switch

[TarJak]

http://www.smh.com.au/technology/security/obama-internet-kill-switch-bill-approved-20100625-z8sf.html

Who who here thinks this is a good idea?:06:

[GoldenRivet]

Extraordinarily bad idea...

Americans however... as a whole, will continue to roll over and gladly take it up the arse as long as they can get their big screens, big macs and big cars :nope:

100 years ago there would have been a war.:shifty:

[Betonov]

so if americans shut down their internet, the rest of the world looses connection to their servers
so everytime Obama gets twitchy it's likely I'll fail my exams because I wouldn't be able to get to information I need

[GoldenRivet]

The US government has way outgrown it's shorts. this is getting out of hand.

[Betonov]

"Only specific systems or assets whose disruption would cause a national or regional catastrophe would be subject to the bill's mandatory security requirements," the senators wrote.

oops, I guess this answers my question

[tomfon]

The article says that the US President already has authority under the Communications Act to close any facility or station for wire communication...

This additional "kill switch" would enable him to shut down everything at no time. Why? Is he afraid of a coup d' état? :06:

[Castout]

so if americans shut down their internet, the rest of the world looses connection to their servers
so everytime Obama gets twitchy it's likely I'll fail my exams because I wouldn't be able to get to information I need

Yes I believe that's one of the privilege of becoming superpower and right now the only one world's superpower.

The article says that the US President already has authority under the Communications Act to close any facility or station for wire communication...

This additional "kill switch" would enable him to shut down everything at no time. Why? Is he afraid of a coup d' état? :06:

It's meant to safeguard US from cyber warfare.
Every rule comes with good intention to gain legitimacy and public support but in practice men are known to have abused their own made rule.

Heck we ordinary people don't even know for sure if a rogue government agency or hacker is spying on us. The Chinese hackers got into US electrical grid system and they spied on activists. God knows what other government is doing similar things.

In 2008 alone I reinstalled XP on my machine sometimes every week or two. It was bad. In total that year I probably reinstalled my operating system 15 or more times. I kept getting BSOD and no it wasn't hardware fault. I switched to Vista and the same thing kept happening so many that I cracked my Vista DVD.

Since Sunday I keep getting problems too on my computer. Reboot, blackscreen, BIOS hang and BSOD. It was three times on Sunday and twice today.
Ran AV and it was all fine. Ran memory diagnostics and it was all fine too.

Not saying it was definitely hacker attack but that's a real possibility considering I'm an activist. They sent cyber bullies with insults on one forum to get rid of me and I'm sure they are going to try something to keep me from writing my blog or simply to aggravate and frustrate me. In effect I'm becoming a bit paranoid since I always can't be sure whether it was them or not.

[Betonov]

It's meant to safeguard US from cyber warfare.
Every rule comes with good intention to gain legitimacy and public support but in practice men are known to have abused their own made rule.
the road to hell is paved with good intentions

[tomfon]

@Castout

I'm not a US citizen but i hope that this law won't turn against you. BTW i didn't know that Chinese hackers spend their time harassing US citizens.:o

[Castout]

@Castout

I'm not a US citizen but i hope that this law won't turn against you. BTW i didn't know that Chinese hackers spend their time harassing US citizens.:o

Yea me too hoping the same though I can't see a reason why any US agency let alone Obama would want to shut my access to internet :DL

And well I'm no US citizen but have read news that the Chinese planted some rogue programs into the US electrical grid system compromising the system in the event of war.

It was also reported that Chinese hackers presumably acting on the Chinese govt behalf implanted spying programs into the personal computer of activists(their political dissidents)

Cyber warfare is indeed a real threat.

[Sailor Steve]

I think it's a great idea! I'm all for it! In fact with this they could



















"The natural progress of things is for liberty to yield and government to gain ground."
-Thomas Jefferson

That was Jefferson's observation, not his wish. This is a terrible move. It seems that the politicians always want more government and less freedom.

In those days papers were printed by highly opinionated private men, and expressed whatever opinions they had, not just on the op-ed pages; very much like the internet today.

Here is what Jefferson thought of that:

"The basis of our governments being the opinion of the people, the very first object should be to keep that right; and were it left to me to decide whether we should have a government without newspapers or newspapers without a government, I should not hesitate a moment to prefer the latter. But I should mean that every man should receive those papers and be capable of reading them."

-Thomas Jefferson to Edward Carrington, 1787.

the road to hell is paved with good intentions
Amen, brother! :rock:

[conus00]

Jefferson must be turning in his grave...

[Snestorm]

Why? Is he afraid of a coup d' état? :06:

It would appear so.

[Wolfehunter]

I'm not surprised. :nope:

[Wolfehunter]

Yea me too hoping the same though I can't see a reason why any US agency let alone Obama would want to shut my access to internet :DL

And well I'm no US citizen but have read news that the Chinese planted some rogue programs into the US electrical grid system compromising the system in the event of war.

It was also reported that Chinese hackers presumably acting on the Chinese govt behalf implanted spying programs into the personal computer of activists(their political dissidents)

Cyber warfare is indeed a real threat.So hire hackers to fight back. Cyber war has been going on for a while now. No excuses for goverments to be cheap about it. Help kids here have freedom to express hacking and cracking. This way you can find the talents and give them a job to protect the nation. Business too have to stop being cheap. There is a war out there. Time to wake up.

[UnderseaLcpl]

It goes without saying that I'm completely opposed to this. I don't buy the national security argument, either, as I can't imagine what kind of cyber-attack would be more destructive or disruptive than shutting down the entire internet. The military has it's own encrypted internet, and the private users have god knows how many different encryptions and safeguards.

Perhaps the worst thing about this is that Obama's killswitch is linked directly to untold millions of adorable, captioned, kittens. Is that the kind of man we want in the highest office of the country? A man who wants to kill kittens?:stare: No, sir! No,sir it is not!

[SteamWake]

I can just picture Barry standing there rubbing his chin.. "Hmmm lets see if this works.. 'click' " Oh noes.. the lolcats... :haha:

[gimpy117]

Funny how it was proposed by Lieberman. who is the "D.I.N.O.S.A.U.R"
http://sporkinthedrawer.typepad.com/.a/6a00d83451c23269e20120a78bb951970b-800wi

and besides....the communications bill of 1934 sect. 706 already stated:
SEC. 706. [47 U.S.C. 606] WAR EMERGENCY--POWERS OF PRESIDENT. (a) During the continuance of a war in which the United States is engaged, the President is authorized, if he finds it necessary for the national defense and security, to direct that such communications as in his judgment may be essential to the national defense and security shall have preference or priority with any carrier subject to this Act. He may give these directions at and for such times as he may determine, and may modify, change, suspend, or annul them and for any such purpose he is hereby authorized to issue orders directly, or through such person or persons as he designates for the purpose, or through the Commission. Any carrier complying with any such order or direction or preference or priority herein authorized shall be exempt from any and all provisions in existing law imposing civil or criminal penalties, obligations, or liabilities upon carriers by reason of giving preference or priority in compliance with such order or direction.
I think were running the risk of blaming Obama for congress being a bunch of scared old men when it comes to the internet. The president did not propose the bill...so i don't see why it's his fault. Im getting tired of every bill that comes out of Washington that somebody (usually from the GOP) dosen't agree with being called "Obama's ______ Bill". If Congress passes said bill, It's their fault alone. Hopefully Mr. Obama will give it a veto or a pocket veto. Or the Supreme court will say it's "unconstitutional". Sadly though, We are the same great nation who passed the patriot act, so it seems our government can pass any law, and the people won't much care, as long as it's wrapped thoroughly in statements of "it's for national security"

[nikimcbee]

Assuming this goes through, I wonder what the "emergency":doh: would be to shut it off? Not enough kittens have full medical coverage (around nov 2012), national crisis...must save kitties...

Break glass, flip switch.:haha: