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ajrimmer42
06-24-10, 04:31 PM
Just wondering if anyone out there plays airsoft??? I started about 18 months ago, so much better than paintball lol. Anyways, I just got a new front end for my L85 :D
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs322.ash1/28242_1518750133587_1379526408_1444762_6552453_n.j pg
:rock: It's actually just an M4 CASV unit which somehow fits on with very little modification, they don't yet do an airsoft version of the actual L85 RIS kit. The rifle is just an AA R85, the cheapest L85 out there lol, and as such the piston just broke, the stock one sucked anyway though so it's a good excuse to get a new one :D
So anyone else got any gear they wanna show off? :arrgh!:
Platapus
06-24-10, 04:46 PM
Pardon my ignorance, but what is the difference between the paintball and the Airsoft?
I assume that Airsoft does not shoot paintballs :know:
Does it shoot any other type of marking projectile. If not, how is the "score" kept?
ajrimmer42
06-24-10, 04:49 PM
No airsoft uses 6mm bbs, it works purely on an honour system, you just have to be honest and acknowledge when you've been hit. Plus they have marshalls walking around so if they see anyone not taking hits they just ban them lol. It does work surprisingly well.
this is what ive got :D
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c297/morty-dk/P7160020.jpg
Castout
06-24-10, 09:16 PM
Since playign ArmA been watching some rifle clips and airsoft guns among them.
There was this really good and well amde SVD Dragunov airsoft gun that some guy tested in a real gun indoor range(and no it wasn't your usual cheap looking airsoft Dragunov) and it was a real temptation but I knew I wouldn't be able to afford that :D.
Watched a clip of this New Zealand resident testing his REAL civilian Dragunov in his backyard. Awwww wish I was that lucky :yep:.
Nothing beats firing a real gun I guess and a day in the range with marksman rifle with scope could put a smile on any man's face . :DL
especially with a picture of either his ex wife or boss down on the bull's mark LoL.
Betonov
06-25-10, 01:03 PM
I play occasionaly, with rented weapons. I like it better than paintball because I get to play with mock-ups of real life weapons and they are easier to wield than paintball, because there is no CO2 and ammo canister.But picking out a team is hard, because of the fair play involved in keeping score. And we have no marshalls here, usually just two guys keeping check that we dont brake the guns and kill eachother with hand to hand combat.
On a related note, me and my friends are curently in the planing proces to build a massive airsoft/paintball polygon or obstacle course. construction of a whole slum village and a wild west street are being planned. We already have land so now we are aquiring material
Dont worry, I'll post a thread about it when it is finished somewhere between september 2010 and march 2011
I had a full armory of guns, sold them when my team broke up. Thinking about getting back into it
Kapitan
06-28-10, 04:57 PM
I play infact i played on sunday with my group the white knights we use SA80 and M4 although we are switching to M4 cause the SA80A1 is just rubbish.
We played at Penn near high wycombe a sort of woodland area we played from 0900 to 1700 in 28*c heat about 6 out of 47 dropped out by lunch i ended up drinking about 5 litres of water and believe me i was sweating it out like a tap.
But in all great fun !
geetrue
06-29-10, 12:17 PM
Those guns look very very real to the naked eye ...
Can you imagine being stopped for a tail light out with the peace officer seeing those in the back seat?
I would like to know more about airsoft, please ...
I see airsoft guns in the local ads here in America for like $29.95 on sale, but they have red things where the barrel is.
Is this red thing normal or some kind of USA law?
What does FPS mean in regards to airsoft and do they hurt at close range like those nasty paintball shots do.
Speaking of paintball have you seen the naked girls on PBTV playing paintball? My my those things leave bruises in nice places on a naked girl.
Kapitan
06-29-10, 12:52 PM
Ok for you geetrue
FPS feet per second
In america all airsoft weapons must have orange tip UK must be a highlighted colour unless a member of ukara site
Provided you can explain it i doubt the police officer will have any issue
wowser "hardball" long time since i was playing, but i have used loads on time on it..
Startet for fun 1992 in 93 we got the basic team ready and in 95 we startet to play et survival game style (sleeping ourdoors in weekends) got involved in a fairly big scenario that ran for 3 years and us being number 1 score all the years. Had load of challenges in urban speedball, we were not good there, but normaly we had a rematch over a weekend our style and won.
1999 we ran into problems with the local police, they were werry close arresting us for paramillitay training (sounds fun, was not)
2000 we all joined national guard same division and same unit.Year after we got transfered to infantry. 2005 we had a closing meeting and décided to close the "club". work, kids and wifes made it imposible to keep up the dedication level needed, both in hardball and national guard.
"Hardball" and our style of play have given me memorys that is priceless. The training we got helped me loads in millitary and national guard service and my best friends to day are some of the old members of "Særlig opklarings gruppe" (SOG)
We prefered survival game. Sleeping outdoor, night fights booby traps and insertions. But many had fun just using the sunday at a factory site.
TBear
Platapus
06-29-10, 06:29 PM
Those guns look very very real to the naked eye ...
Can you imagine being stopped for a tail light out with the peace officer seeing those in the back seat?
I think the only problem would be if you suddenly reached for your airsoft in your enthusiasm to show the police officer how cool it is..... Bad Thing :D
I think the only problem would be if you suddenly reached for your airsoft in your enthusiasm to show the police officer how cool it is..... Bad Thing :D
:rotfl2:
Castout
07-05-10, 03:57 AM
Since playing I'm ArmA 2 I'm rather interested in getting an airsoft gun well actually I want the real one, an SVD Dragunov but that's way out of my league.
And so I've been looking for a nice SVD dragunov airsoft gun and
found two of them
A Real Sword SVD Dragunov which is sold at US$750.00 ONLINE which I guess would be substantially more expensive here.
And a CA SVD priced at US$700.00 in a local store here.
...and that stopped me from exploring further. Damn these are expensive.
Not to mention when a sales women I saw on youtube shooting a can at some distance which I don't think that far actually smiled after hitting the said can. I mean a 700 bucks toy gun to shoot at a short distance? Maybe when my Maddoff scheme worked out :D
I guess I would have to be content wtih ArmA and Arrowhead meanwhile at least in those the distance are realistic
Anyway this whole exploring thing has brought me an idea since what I actually wanted is a realistic looking rifle and one which shoots like the real one ballistic wise so there must be a way to make these guns to shoot virtual bullet. That is a realistic feel and look of a gun but which fire a virtual bullet aimed at a specially made electronic target that would register hit and spread for accuracy and if needed to register misses and gives off warning tone to simulate hearing the gun firing. An added realistic bang(sound) would be terrific but not that necessary. Of course this limits the application of the gun but the device could be made to be attached to players allowing players to engage fellow players at realistic distances with realistic ballistic trajectory something that's done in the real Army exercises.
So can anyone tell me why this idea is not workable? or haven't been implemented?
Geno_Mariner
07-05-10, 07:19 AM
I'd love to play Airsoft but it's banned out here in Australia. Apparently there was meant to be some hearing to discuss the revision of the ban at the beginning of this year... :stare: Will have to check up on the Airsoft sites again, but I'm willing to bet the Australia one remains unchanged.
Otherwise I would've got a few arsenals of Sniper Rifles (I'm more like a sniper in some ways), not to mention SVD's :yeah: (However that may change soon if our good Laser Tag sites gets Frag Tag aka military/survival laser tag with real gun sounds and realistic guns, hope they'd make a SVD... :D here's a site link if anyone's curious http://www.fragtag.com.au/ )
Anyway, I talk too much. It's been a while since I talked of Airsofts :doh:
Schroeder
07-05-10, 07:43 AM
Anyway, I talk too much.
Says who?;)
Raptor1
07-05-10, 07:47 AM
Says who?;)
Not nearly as much as you do. :O:
Betonov
07-05-10, 07:57 AM
I'd love to play Airsoft but it's banned out here in Australia.
damn, you aussies have no fun. but I'm sure there are no inspectors out in the outback, you could play with homemade airsoft tanks down there with 3000 vs 3000 players and noone would notice
Geno_Mariner
07-05-10, 08:20 AM
damn, you aussies have no fun. but I'm sure there are no inspectors out in the outback, you could play with homemade airsoft tanks down there with 3000 vs 3000 players and noone would notice
Some peeps reckons because we have a new PM (Gillard) we might have a chance. But who knows. Just a matter of convincing the govt to revise the ban. I'm just annoyed that NZ got it legal and UK got it legal, but not us Aussies :stare: Maybe I'll move to NZ, it's a few hours flight away :hmmm: Never flown there but airfares aren't pricy, haha. (And yep... the Aussie Airsoft sites remains unchanged, except for a few new ones popping up, here's hoping someone will notice)
@Schroeder: lol I get some people who says I talk a little too much, I'm usually a bit of a chatty person when on a topic I like... :doh:
Castout
07-05-10, 02:42 PM
I'd love to play Airsoft but it's banned out here in Australia. Apparently there was meant to be some hearing to discuss the revision of the ban at the beginning of this year... :stare: Will have to check up on the Airsoft sites again, but I'm willing to bet the Australia one remains unchanged.
Otherwise I would've got a few arsenals of Sniper Rifles (I'm more like a sniper in some ways), not to mention SVD's :yeah: (However that may change soon if our good Laser Tag sites gets Frag Tag aka military/survival laser tag with real gun sounds and realistic guns, hope they'd make a SVD... :D here's a site link if anyone's curious http://www.fragtag.com.au/ )
Anyway, I talk too much. It's been a while since I talked of Airsofts :doh:
Umm as far as I know it's not banned but you are required to get a real weapon license when you buy one :D.
Anyway the price tags for these airsoft guns here are ridiculous. For example
A real Sword SVD that would cost US$750.00 is sold at US$1300.00 and add another $400.00 for a real SVD scope and those prices are for second hand RS SVD!!!!
A JG SVD that would sell for only US$99-100 abroad is sold at $350.00!!!
:nope:. I'm not going to fork US$350.00 for stuff that's actually a hundred bucks in value. I mean I can understand that these people have to profit but selling at 300% than what the British or Americans are selling is not trading but stealing.
Well I wouldn't worry about being chatty there's nothing wrong with that in fact I'd appreciate it. Thanks for the link didn't know those stuffs already existed ;-)
Geno_Mariner
07-05-10, 07:54 PM
Real weapon license huh? :hmmm: Airsoft sites for AU are still saying Airsoft is not legal here :-? I've been planning to get one (license) for some time since I used to consider trying out Clay Pigeon Shooting (or target shooting).
But as far as I know, there isn't any Airsoft meeting grounds but that probably means I need to dig deeper.
:o That much for the SVD's? Real wallet breaker for me :damn: But I don't know if I can even import from abroad either, customs'd be all over my Airsofts if I ever did. Don't know what should be done in that situation, the only things I've ever had from abroad are model kits and the few odds and ends.
@Castout: I've been told Mildura in Victoria will be getting Frag Tag, I'm just hoping Sydney (or surrounding suburb or elsewhere) will get it someday. It'll beat normal laser tags :yeah:
Castout
07-05-10, 08:08 PM
Real Sword SVD and Classic Army SVD are the top two Airsoft SVD Dragunov. The RS could be bought at US$750 online and the CA at about US$420.00 online.
There's also the Chinese JG SVD sold at US100.00 online
But I think I may have found the one for me if the price is right
An A&K SVD Dragunov(spring not electric) which performance easily exceeds 400 feet per second. Online it's about US$150.00.
Now to look for this A&K here along with a scope rail and a scope at fair price is another matter altogether especially without a silly jacked up price tag.
Heck you can even buy a REAL illegal pistol for US$250.00 so I don't see why these airsofts should cost a lot more than a real gun.
A&K SVD teaser(warning music is AWFUL)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmUZSW_bYIs
TLAM Strike
07-05-10, 09:41 PM
Heck you can even buy a REAL illegal pistol for US$250.00 so I don't see why these airsofts should cost a lot more than a real gun. Serrously, the prices are nuts, I've seen a Mosin Nagat Sniper Rifle selling for about US$160 online. (A real one not an airsoft).
I've though about getting in to Airsoft (to have fun and get in shape) but since I plan on going to College next year I gave it up- any weapons are not allowed on campus- even airsoft. :down:
Buddahaid
07-05-10, 11:53 PM
I belong to a BB gun club that puts on wars mostly near New Orleans. I'm talking the bronze/steel Daisy type .187. Members only affair but we get to use pyro for grenades and rockets, etc.
The best thing about the airsoft products are the automatics and the realistic looks. I've purchased both the Thompson M1A1 and 1928 ganster style solely for the looks. First thing to go are the orange tips (saved for the future). They are great fun and have a nice heft to them. :rock:
thorn69
07-06-10, 12:56 AM
http://foxandmaus.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/shooteyeout_distress-logo.jpg?w=400&h=409
Castout
07-06-10, 02:42 AM
Serrously, the prices are nuts, I've seen a Mosin Nagat Sniper Rifle selling for about US$160 online. (A real one not an airsoft).
I've though about getting in to Airsoft (to have fun and get in shape) but since I plan on going to College next year I gave it up- any weapons are not allowed on campus- even airsoft. :down:
College is just four years and by the time you're done even better guns will be coming out :03: that is if it still interests you. Probably would switch to dating girls :DL
And speaking about the prices I've seen an airsoftgun being sold at a whopping US$1400.00 Now the people who would buy such guns are bloody idiot first and foremost! For example google ARES airsoft.
Betonov
07-06-10, 08:30 AM
I belong to a BB gun club that puts on wars mostly near New Orleans. I'm talking the bronze/steel Daisy type .187. Members only affair but we get to use pyro for grenades and rockets, etc.
The best thing about the airsoft products are the automatics and the realistic looks. I've purchased both the Thompson M1A1 and 1928 ganster style solely for the looks. First thing to go are the orange tips (saved for the future). They are great fun and have a nice heft to them. :rock:
I'm gonna ask you for advice about organising these airsoft wars. If our plan with the airsoft grounds go as planned we're going to see some annual large scale battles in Slovenia
Buddahaid
07-06-10, 10:56 AM
Those wars are usually somewhere around 25-40 people in size. The club has rules of safety and conduct to prevent injuries, and it has worked for thirty years with injuries being limited to ankle sprains and blood blisters on fingertips, etc. Club approved headgear is a must and all orifices must be protected. The rest is up to your pain threshold. With the BB guns, we limit the velocity to under 350fps and test them before battle to be certain. The pyro is also limited to items that will not get stuck on your person and start burning things. No flaming balls, etc. Worst injuries here involve loud bangs close to the ears. New members must be sponsored, and the sponsor is mainly responsible for the newbees conduct.
As far as the wars themselves go.
1. Three hits and your dead.
2. If pyro explodes within a rifle arc of your person, your dead
3. Knife (rubber) kills are made by putting down, or slinging, your gun, placing one hand on the victim, stabbing and saying "Your dead".
3. Garrot kills are the same, but both hands must be placed on the victim.
4. No body contact other than knife or garrot kills allowed.
5. When you are dead, you hold your hands and gun over your head and announce, "I'm dead". You then exit the battle zone to your sides dead zone.
6. Dead zones are usually a protected, helmet off area where you can get a breather, reload, or whatever you need to do.
7. Deaths are recorded at the dead zone by shooting a hole next to your name into a cardboard placard.
8. Once you have recorded your death you may reenter the battle at once.
9. If something goes wrong, you shout "Stop the war" until you get every ones attention, then correct or deal with the problem.
10. One, or two people are marshals to keep things, and people in line.
11. Deaths are strictly an honour system. No griping over someone who doesn't die when you think you killed them. You may be shooting an empty gun.
Battles are created by the scenario masters and kept secret until the war. We also have a "machines of war" category, that allows for the creation of virtual tanks, etc. How to kill them, and how deadly they are, is decided in the scenario.
Battles are usually divided into two halves of two hours each, or until the main goal is won. Often the first half is in daylight, and the second half after dark with a rest period in between.
Before battle, you will each check each other to ensure your gear is on safely.
That pretty much sums it up for general rules and procedures. Battle scenarios are mostly two teams and some goal to accomplish. It helps to have a permanent battle zone where you can erect some types of structures beforehand. Our scenarios are a mix of historical and fantasy battles. We've had Macy's verses Bloomingdale's, the battle over the last FEMA trailer stuck on the causeway, a pocket of Russian paratroopers (laugh, they jumped out of slow, low flying planes into snowbanks without chutes) surrounded by Germans, etc.
Oh, cliffs and water crossing are simulated by creating a zone where you have to crawl along a rope, or cross on your knees using your gun as a paddle. Usually small boats are two or three man affairs with no shooting allowed because you are paddling.
Budda
Oh yeah, we allow you to re-spawn yourself as many times as you can stand during the war. After the war, deaths are tallied and used to weight the results in determining who won. This allows for larger battles to be represented. I usually get killed 25-30 times during a war. This is a big fun factor over paintball IMO.
We also make medals and such to award in the banquet that follows right after the war. These are comical in nature, but proudly worn.
Betonov
07-06-10, 12:22 PM
thanks :yeah:
copied it onto a document for future references, will mention your name as the author, credit where credit is due
Buddahaid
07-06-10, 02:20 PM
As for pyro, three types are mainly used to make the following.
1. Firecracker Grenades. Take one pack of firecrackers, bend in half to break the paper, find the fuse leader and tape on another inch or so of canon fuse on. This is then put in a 35mm film canister with the fuse sticking out of the cap which has been cross-cut.
2. Firecracker satchel charges. Made up from longer strings of about 100, tape on extra canon fuse and tape up into something more manageable.
3. Bottle rocket launchers, big or small rockets with report. Use PVC pipe to fashion a barrel, cut an opening in the side to get to the fuses with a lighter. You want to block the back end, but leave it open to air. Keep it away from your face.
4. Saturn pods. These are those cubes of 25 little screaming rockets that go anywhere. They also come in 100 packs. You can't throw these so they are usually held somehow and "aimed". You can make holders, PVC tube barrel launchers, or tape one to your back for a suicide style.
5. If you carry a lighter, tie it to yourself with a bootlace. Alternately, you can tape strike anywhere kitchen matches to the fuses and tape an emery board to your forearm. It's a good idea to tape the matches on anyway to help lighting.
Budda
Castout
07-06-10, 04:47 PM
Buddhaaid 350 fps is kind of on the weak side.
The cheap A&K Dragunov I'm contemplating to buy for example could easily reach 470 fps out of the box. Then again I'm only meaning to hit static targets.
Paintball was 300fps, but getting hit by a 65 caliber round object left a cherry you could brag about for days, dang they hurt.
Being an old paintball player from days past I don't like the price of this equipment. $750.00 is just out there, <shrug>
ooh yeah, finally got exactly what i needed for airsoft :D
front
http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/2213/p8030030.jpg
and rear
http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/3618/p8030031.jpg
(http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/3618/p8030031.jpg)
Geno_Mariner
07-07-10, 08:37 AM
Man, the war thing sounds like my kind of fun :D If only there are known Airsoft grounds here... :doh: Plus getting my gun license and so on. (Although once Mildura's Frag Tag is set up, I might end up going once a month or something)
Castout
07-09-10, 09:06 PM
Found local dealer for A&K SVD Dragunov and it should be in stock next week
I hope he would not jack up the price.
Anyway there's a new wooden SVD from A&K and they resumed production which had been discontinued.
And I would like to ask your opinion, which one do you think is the better looking? The all black or the wooden Dragunov? And which one would probably be more robust? I'm afraid the wooden parts would crack.
Some pictures and painful teaser for the Australians :O:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v319/roh_kudus/svd_black_02.gif
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v319/roh_kudus/svd_WD_02.gif
More pictures:
http://akairsoft.com/svd_black.html
http://akairsoft.com/svd_black.html
http://akairsoft.com/svd_WD.html
Buddahaid
07-09-10, 10:51 PM
Buddhaaid 350 fps is kind of on the weak side.
The cheap A&K Dragunov I'm contemplating to buy for example could easily reach 470 fps out of the box. Then again I'm only meaning to hit static targets.
Oh that hurts plenty with the steel BBs and I usually get many big welts through the clothing. The limit is has everything to do with helmet safety. We use a stainless steel screen material that has many holes just under BB diameter. The airsoft, or paintball goggles can be shattered and the 6mm BBs slow down sooner. Try it with a homely Red Ryder at 250fps onto your thighs and you'll see.
Best gun is the Daisy model 25 pump which has just been reissued. 50 BB shot tubes so you need spares, but you can shoot almost two BB a second.
TLAM Strike
07-09-10, 11:49 PM
And I would like to ask your opinion, which one do you think is the better looking? The all black or the wooden Dragunov? And which one would probably be more robust? I'm afraid the wooden parts would crack.
I would go with the all black one since the wood seems to have a shinyness to it (I guess from whatever finish they put on it). Anything shiny is bad if you are trying to be a sniper. Also the black would probably be easier to add camouflage paint to as needed by your surroundings. (The movie Shooter demonstrates a great field expendant way to do this with a can of spray paint and a branch.)
Couple links to help get you started:
Sniper Training Manual (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/www.lenaweemilitia.com/US%20Military%20Field%20Manual%20-%20Sniper%20Training.pdf)
SVD Manual (The Real Item) (http://kalashnikov.guns.ru/manual/english/svd/)
make your own ghillie suit (http://www.snipercountry.com/InReviews/YourOwnGhillie.asp)
More ghiliie suit stuff (http://www.ghilliesuitclothing.com/blog/how-to-make-a-ghillie-suit/)
Castout
07-09-10, 11:51 PM
Oh that hurts plenty with the steel BBs and I usually get many big welts through the clothing. The limit is has everything to do with helmet safety. We use a stainless steel screen material that has many holes just under BB diameter. The airsoft, or paintball goggles can be shattered and the 6mm BBs slow down sooner. Try it with a homely Red Ryder at 250fps onto your thighs and you'll see.
Best gun is the Daisy model 25 pump which has just been reissued. 50 BB shot tubes so you need spares, but you can shoot almost two BB a second.
STEEL BBs. That's so mean :DL. Is that even legal? I mean the steel BBs. :06:
The new A&K Dragunov reportedly has a much lower fps. Their site claims 300-396fps instead of the past 400s-470s.
As for trying that 250fps I will have to trust your insight :D
Castout
07-09-10, 11:55 PM
I would go with the all black one since the wood seems to have a shinyness to it (I guess from whatever finish they put on it). Anything shiny is bad if you are trying to be a sniper. Also the black would probably be easier to add camouflage paint to as needed by your surroundings. (The movie Shooter demonstrates a great field expendant way to do this with a can of spray paint and a branch.)
Couple links to help get you started:
Sniper Training Manual (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/www.lenaweemilitia.com/US%20Military%20Field%20Manual%20-%20Sniper%20Training.pdf)
SVD Manual (The Real Item) (http://kalashnikov.guns.ru/manual/english/svd/)
make your own ghillie suit (http://www.snipercountry.com/InReviews/YourOwnGhillie.asp)
More ghiliie suit stuff (http://www.ghilliesuitclothing.com/blog/how-to-make-a-ghillie-suit/)
Umm I don't intend to join an airsoft club and participate in mock battles. I just want a sniping experience probably paying around in an empty open field nearby hitting cans or a printed target as far as the rifle power could allow decent accuracy or spread.
As for the ghillie suit I think a supplier nearby(walking distance found them to my amazement) is selling them at US$80.00 but there isn't much point since I don't intend to participate in airsoft battles at least not now.
As for the rifle I prefer the black one too than the wooden one. It just looks more intimidating and yes it camouflages itself better in that monotone color.
ajrimmer42
07-10-10, 05:08 AM
Buddhaaid 350 fps is kind of on the weak side.
Lol, here in the UK 370 is the max you're allowed at most sites :( 350 is a usual, standard fps. So not fair :p You're allowed up to 500 for snipers but they have a minimum engagement range. In fact CQB sites tend to have a max of 320. Still hurts like a b*****d though lol!
Geno_Mariner
07-10-10, 05:13 AM
@Castout: Black SVD's definitely better
I totally want one... lol. Someday, I will have one :D
Castout
07-10-10, 05:38 PM
@Castout: Black SVD's definitely better
I totally want one... lol. Someday, I will have one :D
:D You'll get one if someone wants something bad enough he'll get it in the end. It's a matter how how much wanting and how long :03:
I hope the guy wouldn't jack up the price. The quote should be available next week. He's getting his A&K directly from the factory.
If the price was jacked up I wouldn't buy it. I would only buy it as long as I consider it a fair price not necessarily as cheap as the UK and US online retailer but fair.
Castout
08-03-10, 11:04 PM
I picked up my A&K SVD Dragunov yesterday.
Don't have the scope yet. Planning to order it online once local customs replied to my Inquiry whether Rifle optics are considered contraband.
Fired a few rounds to test its accuracy without scope
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v319/roh_kudus/TargetPractice.jpg
The bulls eye is 2 cm in diameter.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v319/roh_kudus/Firstpractice.jpg
The rifle is quite heavy I have difficulty firing accurately only with my 2 hands standing up or even kneeling down without external support.
As for muzzle speed in feet per second it was measured at 509.7 feet per second consistently. Yea it's a monster. Wouldn't be able to play in most airsoft play ground. The max fps allowed on average is about 400 feet per second. As you can see I have no problem hitting the bulls eye from this distance. In fact with a little more time I probably could place all the rounds on the bulls eye. The bbs penetrated the thick cardboard.
Edit: Umm my result is incosistent I tend to have larger grouping now. I wonder if adjusting hop up would help
ajrimmer42
08-04-10, 04:05 AM
Epic ^^^ With the inconsistent grouping, have you cleaned the barrel since you got it? A lot of people tend to reccommend cleaning the barrel before you use a gun to get rid of any manufacturing gunk left behind, or excess lube etc.
I bit the bullet (if you'll excuse the pun) and bought myself a Tokyo Marui Hi Capa 4.3 the other day :D Hopefully be here today or tmoro! can't wait. Kinda wierd cos I never used to like Hi Capas, but then I watched Torchwood and their standard handguns are TM Hi Capa 4.3s and I sorta thought 'actually they are quite nice' and I had some money I was planning on throwing at Airsoft stuff. I was looking at MP5s and P90s as I wanted a decent CQB wep but I found the more I looked at the 4.3 the more I liked it so I bought it. I'm gonna upgrade it a bit and have it as my CQB Primary, along with my Glock as a secondary :D Pistols ftw! :arrgh!:
ajrimmer42
08-04-10, 06:44 AM
OMGZ it's here :D
As usual I've already set about it with a rag and white spirit so the slide is no longer sickeningly green, however purely by chance I found that leaving some bits (actually the harder to strip bits) green it looked pretty good.
Some pics, along with my Glock 26A (they both look a bit too shiny because of the camera, and also cos I just lubed them up :yep: )
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs146.ash2/40625_1570666191456_1379526408_1587706_1683375_n.j pg
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs105.ash2/38597_1570666431462_1379526408_1587708_2397078_n.j pg
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs225.snc4/38597_1570666471463_1379526408_1587709_5462617_n.j pg
Kinda gives it a bit of a 'night fighter' look
Castout
08-04-10, 05:24 PM
Epic ^^^ With the inconsistent grouping, have you cleaned the barrel since you got it? A lot of people tend to reccommend cleaning the barrel before you use a gun to get rid of any manufacturing gunk left behind, or excess lube etc.
I bit the bullet (if you'll excuse the pun) and bought myself a Tokyo Marui Hi Capa 4.3 the other day :D Hopefully be here today or tmoro! can't wait. Kinda wierd cos I never used to like Hi Capas, but then I watched Torchwood and their standard handguns are TM Hi Capa 4.3s and I sorta thought 'actually they are quite nice' and I had some money I was planning on throwing at Airsoft stuff. I was looking at MP5s and P90s as I wanted a decent CQB wep but I found the more I looked at the 4.3 the more I liked it so I bought it. I'm gonna upgrade it a bit and have it as my CQB Primary, along with my Glock as a secondary :D Pistols ftw! :arrgh!:
The barrel looked clean. After some time again the grouping is pretty much the same it's just that I never seem able to get a shot on the bulls eye no matter how I tried to aim there. In my first try I got two shot hitting the bullseye within 5 shot rounds.
I myself prefer a low cap mag. Hig cap mag seems to be very thrifty as you need to put a lot of BBs to get it to feed.
I'm using the low cap mag all the time for now witht he SVD, the A&K SVD came with a low cap steel mag and a high cap plastic mag.
As for pistolI still have my M639 myself that was bought almost 20 years ago!!!It still looks good but I don't think it shoots true anymore though.
OMGZ it's here :D
As usual I've already set about it with a rag and white spirit so the slide is no longer sickeningly green, however purely by chance I found that leaving some bits (actually the harder to strip bits) green it looked pretty good.
Some pics, along with my Glock 26A (they both look a bit too shiny because of the camera, and also cos I just lubed them up :yep: )
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs146.ash2/40625_1570666191456_1379526408_1587706_1683375_n.j pg
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs105.ash2/38597_1570666431462_1379526408_1587708_2397078_n.j pg
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs225.snc4/38597_1570666471463_1379526408_1587709_5462617_n.j pg
Kinda gives it a bit of a 'night fighter' look
LASERZ would be awesome to go with that greeen :DL
ajrimmer42
08-05-10, 05:31 AM
lol, I'd love a green laz0r :arrgh!: Surprisingly expenzive though, although the £20 laser/flashlight unit I bought a few months ago sucks, it worked a bit but would switch of if you fired or jolted the unit lol, got our money back luckily, but now it's just stopped working altogether. Does look good on the front of my L85 though.
On the up side I've finally fixed my L85!!! It was making a horrible grinding noise when the trigger was pulled, so I took it apart and saw that the piston teeth were quite worn, problem solved, or so I thought. I put a brand new steel teethed piston in it yesterday, put the beast back together, pulled the trigger. Wham! Same thing again :cry: Posted for help on my local airsoft site forum and got a slightly confuzzling reply about a grub screw and the motor, anyway I took it apart again this morning and had a look at the motor. The impression I got from the forum post was that he tightened the grub screw which holds the cog onto the motor shaft, anyway I couldn't find an allen key small enough for that. I then realised that the actual motor seemed to be slightly loose in it's housing, it could be moved forwards and backwards slightly. So I then deduced that there was another grub screw behind the motor which pushes the thing into the gearbox. I tightened that, irradicated the loose motor, problem solved :rock:
So I've just been outside to fire off a celebratory mag, unfortunately my battery went flat about halfway through so I was forced to fire off a few Hi Capa mags instead :D oh well!
ooh yeah, i got some gear a few days ago :D
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c297/morty-dk/P9030037.jpg?t=1281103032
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c297/morty-dk/P9030033.jpg?t=1281103031
ajrimmer42
08-06-10, 11:24 AM
Very nice Morts, been thinking about getting some knee pads myself. I'm also considering getting rid of my current tac vest, partly cos it kinda sucks and partly cos I dnt really need it. atm I only use it for the holster and to carry my L85 mag between games. Now I have 2 pistols I need 2 holsters so I'm thinking I might just get left and right leg holsters, and maybe a mag pouch for a belt. Tac vest are great, and handy, but they can get a bit in the way, I never go prone cos I'm always afraid I'll crush something lol.
Got my battery charged and zeroed in my hop after replacing the rubber. Man with that 6.03mm tightbore, my L85 shoots damn straight! :rock:
6.03 ?! sweet :DL
im considering getting PDI 6.01 for my rifle, seeing as i use it as a DMR
ajrimmer42
10-15-10, 03:47 AM
Cheapo Dragunov anyone? http://shop.ehobbyasia.com/aandk-svd-bolt-action-airsoft-sniper-rifle.html
Just ordered myself left and right ACU leg holsters for my pistols :D along with an extended 50rd Hi Capa mag. Was gonna get a few of the new Magpul EMAGs for my L85, but alas they were out of stock by the time I wanted to order them lol. Guess I'll be sticking with my Hi Cap.
I just can't wait for the 31st! Me and a load of mates are going along to the new RAF Newton venue that my local site have just acquired. atm only 'The School' is open, which is what was the old RAF training college. They are planning to develop the whole site into a FIBUA arena,which is awesome seeing as the control tower, hangars, mess halls, playground, and housing estate are all still there. It'll be the largest in Britain when it's done :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLyap2K3TWs
Castout
10-15-10, 04:46 AM
I bought the same A&K Dragunov for a little more than 300 bucks here. It's not cheap here :damn:. I know a rip off . . . .
ajrimmer42
10-15-10, 04:53 AM
I bought the same A&K Dragunov for a little more than 300 bucks here. It's not cheap here :damn:. I know a rip off . . . .
Ah didn't realise it was that one! The only thing with getting from these 'cheap' places like ehobby or RSOV is that they make up their cost in shipping, so you're likely to pay like $150 for shipping lol
TLAM Strike
10-15-10, 09:13 AM
Ah didn't realise it was that one! The only thing with getting from these 'cheap' places like ehobby or RSOV is that they make up their cost in shipping, so you're likely to pay like $150 for shipping lol
Very common in "E Commerce", it pays (no pun intended) to check price plus S&H, and to check out several vendors for items.
Legionary74
10-15-10, 01:04 PM
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ajrimmer42
10-15-10, 02:50 PM
I play all the time in Pennsylvania. Its fun as hell :D
Heres what my gun looks like:
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/31vxd09f2iL._SS500_.jpg
Since I descend from Soviet Snipers in WWII, I kick ass :D
Awesome! Marui VSR 10?
Castout
10-15-10, 05:52 PM
Airsoft is illegal here unless you have a real gun permit :damn:
part of the reason they are so expensive and you can't buy them from abroad yourselves such from online. They'll confiscate it.
It has always been semi legal but the police chief made it clear recently that they would confiscate airsoft gun that came without real gun permit.
This happens because of some high profile robbery with REEL guns(including automatic assault rifle)
ajrimmer42
03-08-11, 10:45 AM
Just got myself a second AEG after finding out my L85 is shooting about 40fps too hot for my CQB site at 390 :O: Had a thing for LR300's ever since first playing STALKER so I ended up getting one :D or a G&G GR300L to be exact.
Also finished my makeshift B&Q gun rack :D
http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r131/ajrimmer42/170cc10c.jpg
Got a 9.6v pack in it and by god does it shoot! no idea what the rof is but on full auto you can't fire off one round at a time, it'll fire about 3 rounds just tweaking the trigger lol
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