Time to take up arms

[GoldenRivet]

http://www.examiner.com/x-17078-Lafayette-Political-Buzz-Examiner~y2010m6d3-Leave-like-beaten-rats-You-old-white-people-It-is-your-duty-to-die--

if this gets much hotter, I think i'll load up the AR-15 and head to Arizona.:nope:

[Zachstar]

And be promptly targeted and negated by a drone thinking you are a drug runner.

Are you nuts?

[GoldenRivet]

i highly doubt under this coward president, any munitions would be dropped anywhere near the border.

[krashkart]

I don't see why you let that stuff get under your skin, Rivet. The letter was designed to play on our fear. :hmmm:

[Jimbuna]

I was expecting the link to take me to an article something along the lines of "The British Are Coming!!"

This is potentially far more worrying :o

Obama must be well into his first and final term by now :hmmm:

[UnderseaLcpl]

I was expecting the link to take me to an article something along the lines of "The British Are Coming!!"

This is potentially far more worrying :o


More worrying than having our tea taxed?:stare: I think not,sir. You may tell your monarch that we shall not fall for her obvious ploy. :DL

Seriously though, this doesn't worry me at all. I like hispanics. Let'em all in, I say. The rabble-rousers are just going through a phase. If they spend enough time in this country they'll be indistinguishable from the rest of us, save for the tan and the cuisine.

It's odd you should bring this up, because I was just talking to a friend last night about this very same thing. He was concerned about Catholocism, as he's a devout Protestant; I pointed out to him that most of the mutual Hispanic accquaintances we have don't even go to mass anymore, or only go on Easter and Christmas. I'm pretty sure that if we took a survey, half would say they were Catholic, a quarter would say they were "part of the one with the....y'know, the guy in the hat", and a quarter would say "See you in church!".

Besides, if we devote all our efforts to keeping Hispanics out, how will we ever find the time to keep the black man down?

[Betonov]

The loudest are allways a minority, just ignore them and they'll go away.

But still, reminds me how Serbia lost Kosovo

And one more thing, I'm left and I'm a liberal and European, but there is nothing on this world that agree morre with than this quote:
WHEN I WAS YOUNG:
When I was young, I remember hearing about the immigrants that came through Ellis Island . They wanted to learn English. They wanted to breath free. They wanted to become Americans. Now too many immigrants come here with demands. They demand to be taught in their own language. They demand special privileges--affirmative action. They demand ethnic studies that glorify their culture.

[mookiemookie]

Besides, if we devote all our efforts to keeping Hispanics out, how will we ever find the time to keep the black man down?

Ok that made me laugh. :rotfl2:

[krashkart]

But still, reminds me how Serbia lost Kosovo

How so? :hmmm:

[SteamWake]

I don't see why you let that stuff get under your skin, Rivet. The letter was designed to play on our fear. :hmmm:

Exactly it seems the rhetoric had the desired effect.

I dont doubt a word of it however I think it only has effect if it sees the light of day and here it is.

By the way I noticed this article came out of Miami, I would love to hear the Cuban community's take on this.

[nikimcbee]

"The British Are Coming!!"

Great!:woot: I was looking forward to having lunch with Mr.Buna again. Maybe that ruffian Steed will come this time? Oberon?

[STEED]

We're on the way, watch out Obama we're going to kick your ass out the White House and burn your Red dreams.:D

[Tchocky]

if this gets much hotter, I think i'll load up the AR-15 and head to Arizona.:nope:

And do what exactly?

Oh, and current immigrants are speaking more English, percentage-wise, than before.

Edit - Holy hell, posted a picture that was way too big. It's in the next link.

http://contexts.org/socimages/2010/06/15/english-acquisition-among-u-s-immigrants/

[Betonov]

krashkart Quote:
Originally Posted by Betonov http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/smartdark/viewpost.gif (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?p=1424493#post1424493)
But still, reminds me how Serbia lost Kosovo

How so? :hmmm:

walking on a minefield here but I'll try to put this as objectively as possible.
Kosovo was serbian for the better part of the last millennia. As was albania albanian. until the 20th century albanians were a minority. but in two generations the albanians became the majority in kosovo trough breeding and immigration. And the serbian treatment of albanians during the nineties also helped create the albanian determiantion to have an independent kosovo.

[Jimbuna]

Besides, if we devote all our efforts to keeping Hispanics out, how will we ever find the time to keep the black man down?

Ok that made me laugh. :rotfl2:

Ditto :DL

[AVGWarhawk]

I was expecting the link to take me to an article something along the lines of "The British Are Coming!!"

This is potentially far more worrying :o

Obama must be well into his first and final term by now :hmmm:

If the British where coming would they were the red coats again?

[STEED]

If the British where coming would they were the red coats again?

Only our beloved Chelsea pensioners who have better things to do with there time. ;)

[Blacklight]

I really don't think we have to worry about it. That letter was written by a single idiot (if it's even real).

[Jimbuna]

If the British where coming would they were the red coats again?


Probably....but I'm more concerned about them wearing those stupid wigs and traffic cone lids :DL

[Zachstar]

i highly doubt under this coward president, any munitions would be dropped anywhere near the border.

*Picard Facepalm*


If things get even half as warm as this letter indicates the area would be flooded by drones by now. If anyone is dumb enough to go to the border armed with such a large weapon they deserve to be hellfire food.

[AVGWarhawk]

Probably....but I'm more concerned about them wearing those stupid wigs and traffic cone lids :DL

Well..those only enhanced the red coat and provided better targets. Really...red coats? In the woods? Not the best camo :DL

[Jimbuna]

Well..those only enhanced the red coat and provided better targets. Really...red coats? In the woods? Not the best camo :DL

Yeah, I often wondered why they abandoned the basic concepts of camoflauge :hmmm:

I suppose on a battlefield they were more manacing looking when standing in line....the French certainly thought so :DL

[Ducimus]

There are several reasons why i want to abandon my home state of california and move elsewhere. This is one of them.

How bad the problem is (transformation instead of intergration), depends on where you are. Regardless the problem gets continually worse, and it's not going to go away. The anchor baby vote gets larger and larger as time goes on. Sometime in my lifetime, this state will be a complete loss to hispanic special interest.

[Jimbuna]

*Picard Facepalm*




http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v337/JFliegel/picard-facepalm.jpg

[AVGWarhawk]

Yeah, I often wondered why they abandoned the basic concepts of camoflauge :hmmm:

I suppose on a battlefield they were more manacing looking when standing in line....the French certainly thought so :DL

Well, they learned the hard way. Fighting in bright red coats on unfamiliar land against men in farming clothing familiar with the land and a bit more driven to win. It was a new type of warfare really. :hmmm:

[AVGWarhawk]

There are several reasons why i want to abandon my home state of california and move elsewhere. This is one of them.

How bad the problem is (transformation instead of intergration), depends on where you are. Regardless the problem gets continually worse, and it's not going to go away. The anchor baby vote gets larger and larger as time goes on. Sometime in my lifetime, this state will be a complete loss to hispanic special interest.

Yep...

[Platapus]

Obama must be well into his first and final term by now :hmmm:

Hey, Bush got re-elected so I would not count Obama out yet. :nope:

[Jimbuna]

Hey, Bush got re-elected so I would not count Obama out yet. :nope:


I'm obviously a non American and only know what I'm fed on the news and internet etc. but I'd have thought a lot would depend on how credible a candidate the opposition put up against him would carry a good deal of significance.

[GoldenRivet]

on the subject of W's re-election, I didnt consider John Kerry to be a very credible candidate.

One thing to consider is that during most of the first term in office, President Bush enjoyed a fair amount of popularity. I think that there were a lot of Americans who knew that our troops were still in the fight and needed support at home. Additionally, we had dragged a lot of allies into this engagement... loyal allies that the people of this nation are grateful for no matter what the news might lead one to believe. Furthermore i got the impression that if Mr. Kerry had been elected, he would not have continued the military campaigns with any deal of zest or aggression (if at all) putting America in the awkward position of telling all its friends "Sorry guys... we dont want to play anymore, now give me my ball, im going home" which would have been absolute BS. in short... take it or leave it - like it or not - the WTC attack was too fresh on enough American minds to sway the vote in Dubya's favor.

be it also noted that Bush only won the 2004 re-election by a margin of approximately 2%.

he only carried about 20-30 more electoral college votes than Mr. Kerry if i recall.

Platapus is right... dont count Obama out yet, doing so would be a dangerous proposition for America as a whole, we must unite against this guy and return power to the states and sovereignty to the constitution. Too many liberties have been abandoned and traditional American values abandoned in the past decade under the watch of both parties. (I mean seriously folks... we live in an America where you could get in trouble for displaying the American flag. What other nation in the known universe has this problem??? America, WTF you are looking totally retarded in front of all the other countries.)

in my opinion, Obama pushed WAY too hard for health care reform and rammed a bill up our asses that was wildly unpopular. He has also embraced numerous sweeping reforms and changes that some do not support. Now something along the lines of 60-70% of the nation (depending on your number source) is frustrated with him... some are outright angry and others frothing at the mouth with impeachment rhetoric.

Obama missed a moment of glory if you ask me... he could have gone down in history as one of the greatest presidents of all time if he had not rammed that bill through, now he is probably hosed and lumped in as yet another defiler of the constitution.

I mean for Christ's sake... BOTH sides of the isle openly wanted health care reform, how do you screw that up?!? seriously?!

Even I supported almost 75% perhaps even 80% of the language within the bill :doh: But the Dems had to go and f*ck it up by forcing -FORCING- the general populace to purchase a service. Which I'm sorry folks... but thats unconstitutional any effing way you slice it. ;)

thats where my beef is.

if they had taken that forced to "purchase or else be fined or jailed" BS out of there and figured out a way to fund this without causing super hyper inflation in the next 10 - 20 years i would have probably written my congressmen a dozen supportive letters instead of a dozen angry mob letters :doh:

I think the strategy for conservative America is to vote this loser and all his lackeys out, get the republican party in and in the next election, perhaps when the fate of the universe is not nearly so much at stake...give a third party a chance.

and if thats not the collective "plan" then it probably should be.


EDIT:

interesting side note about Obama pushing the "Change" thing too hard.

in 2004 Bush ran his campaign on the ownership of Private property - economic liberty - personal responsibility and National Security.

in 2009-10 we have a president who is doing the 180 degree opposite of those things.

One extreme (Bush)..........................Average Joe............................ Other Extreme (BO)

[SteamWake]

Hey, Bush got re-elected so I would not count Obama out yet. :nope:

LOL :har:

Yea... sure... :haha: :har:

[Platapus]

I'm obviously a non American and only know what I'm fed on the news and internet etc. but I'd have thought a lot would depend on how credible a candidate the opposition put up against him would carry a good deal of significance.

That is exactly correct. Well done! Many people don't get that significance. :yeah:

[Zachstar]

Kerry was and is a joke today. When I was a repub it was easy as pie to focus on his bad points. He had almost nothing to offer other than "not being Bush" His cowardly "Lets take a step back and cool off" comments on the generals comments just proves hes even weaker than Obama.

[mookiemookie]

Obama missed a moment of glory if you ask me... he could have gone down in history as one of the greatest presidents of all time if he had not rammed that bill through, now he is probably hosed and lumped in as yet another defiler of the constitution.

Obama will go down as a mediocre president. You're correct in saying he's missed opportunities.

He had a golden opportunity to get Wall Street reform done when the populist rage and sentiment was at its highest. We could have reigned in the excess and massive disastrous deregulation of the late 90's. but instead he focused on...health care. And on that, he bargained from a position of weakness - offering concessions to the Republicans from the very start. We ended up with a watered down bill that's not real health care reform, it's a gift of millions of new customers to the insurance industry.

He's pursued a horrible program of artificially inflating home prices with the ill-advised homebuyer tax credits and the disastrous HAMP programs. Neither of which offer a real solution to the problem. We're still going to be taking our medicine of foreclosures and home prices reaching an equilibrium state - all those programs have done is kick the can down the road.

Instead of using the FCC to enshrine Net Neutrality as the law of the land, he's now holding behind closed door meetings with the major ISPs. So much for "transparency" and "change".

The oil spill was a golden opportunity for real stimulus - he should have used it as a urgent spur in the butt and announced a new multi-billion dollar program for alternative energy. Instead he gave a vague speech full of the same old tired bullcrap that every president says about energy independence sometime in the future. Nothing concrete, just full of platitudes and vague things that sound nice.

Obama's re-proven that corporate campaign donations are what run this country. And if you think the other side's any different, Joe Barton the corporate apologist pig would like a word with you.