Boater chases mysterious periscope off Hollywood beach

[TopTorp '92]

http://www.upi.com/Odd_News/2010/06/18/Fishermen-spot-periscope-off-So-Florida/UPI-90971276885787/

I think someone's sub-driver is getting sloppy out there. What caught my attention was the article speculation about the sub blowing ballast as evidenced from the bubbles that came to the surface. I found it unlikely that the sub driver would blow ballast while running away from the fisherman. Subs don't blow ballast when on defense. More likely: the bubbles were cavitation from the sub speeding away.

[Oberon]

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=171308

So close. Unlucky man.

In other news, you're right, never leave the scope up for more than a few seconds. Six tops IIRC. That skipper was lucky that that fisher wasn't an enemy patrol boat.

Not high odds on it being an Ivan boat, but I guess it's possible.

Was there a nudist beach nearby? :hmmm:

[thorn69]

Most likely it was drug runners. They've been known to use subs to transport illegal drugs into the US via Floridian waters.

[TLAM Strike]

Most likely it was drug runners. They've been known to use subs to transport illegal drugs into the US via Floridian waters.

But those are semi-submersible craft not true submarines. A lot of the time they are just gofast boats with a waterproof top. Doubtful it would have a periscope.

http://img714.imageshack.us/img714/2875/narcosub2.jpg
http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/7383/semisubmersiblevesselss.jpg

[SteamWake]

Ive seen me a mermaid once... :salute:

[TLAM Strike]

Ive seen me a mermaid once... :salute:

... and I've seen me a shark eat an octopus. :O:

[thorn69]

But those are semi-submersible craft not true submarines. A lot of the time they are just gofast boats with a waterproof top. Doubtful it would have a periscope.

http://img714.imageshack.us/img714/2875/narcosub2.jpg
http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/7383/semisubmersiblevesselss.jpg



Maybe they've advanced in their tech? Remember, under Obama's watch - ANYTHING is possible! ;)

[krashkart]

What does Obama have to do with an 'iffy' periscope sighting? :06:

[Buddahaid]

What does Obama have to do with an 'iffy' periscope sighting? :06:

Nothing, and EVERYTHING.......

It must be Meg Whitman looking for tax cuts. :yep:

[thorn69]

What does Obama have to do with an 'iffy' periscope sighting? :06:

A serious lack of national security!

[Weiss Pinguin]

But those are semi-submersible craft not true submarines. A lot of the time they are just gofast boats with a waterproof top. Doubtful it would have a periscope.
Money plus ingenuity is a scary thing :shifty:

Probably a North Korean sub trying to pump a few incendiary torpedoes into a few cargo ships...

[GoldenRivet]

What is the operation range of North Korea's best sub?

My money is on

A. American Sub

B. Chinese Sub

C. Drug smuggling Semi Submersible of some kind.

[Jimbuna]

Ive seen me a mermaid once... :salute:

... and I've seen me a shark eat an octopus. :O:

I once heard a shrimp fart whilst scuba diving :smug:

[krashkart]

I once heard a shrimp fart whilst scuba diving :smug:

I once caught shrimp while farting. :DL

[frau kaleun]

I once caught shrimp while farting. :DL

I once ate some shrimp and then farted.

[TLAM Strike]

What is the operation range of North Korea's best sub?

Well their longest range sub is the Romeo class with a range of 14,000 nm (according to combat fleets of the world- Wikipedia list 9,000 nm as its range). Sufficient for the trip.

Their Sang O class boats have a range of 1,500 miles which are their longest range indigenous small subs.

However their is another way too, look at this photo:
http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/5906/p4stbdbow.jpg
This is a captured North Korean 'P-4' class small submarine. Notice her bow? That eye bolt like thing? Its likely that is for towing the sub long distances using a trawler or freighter. A North Korea cargo ship could tow her to the US West coast and release her once its in range then pick her up later.

[XabbaRus]

We should make a subsim knock off of the Sang-O.

How hard can it be?

[TLAM Strike]

We should make a subsim knock off of the Sang-O.

How hard can it be?

I'm with you on that one! We can build it at my house, on Lake Ontario we only have to worry about the Canadian Navy spying on us. There is a 60 meter long pier and several waterfront buildings about five miles away that are totally disused. That could be our base of operations. :arrgh!:

Seriously! Look how primitive the Sang O is:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-z-HUgsClk
we could build that!

[Platapus]

I once ate some shrimp and then farted.

One morning I shot an elephant in my pajamas. How he got in my pajamas I'll never know.

[SteamWake]

Well their longest range sub is the Romeo class with a range of 14,000 nm (according to combat fleets of the world- Wikipedia list 9,000 nm as its range). Sufficient for the trip.

Their Sang O class boats have a range of 1,500 miles which are their longest range indigenous small subs.

However their is another way too, look at this photo:
http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/5906/p4stbdbow.jpg
This is a captured North Korean 'P-4' class small submarine. Notice her bow? That eye bolt like thing? Its likely that is for towing the sub long distances using a trawler or freighter. A North Korea cargo ship could tow her to the US West coast and release her once its in range then pick her up later.

Well I'm strictly a layman but I wouldent trust a 'long tow at sea' to that wimpy lil eye bolt. :O:

[Weiss Pinguin]

Well I'm strictly a layman but I wouldent trust a 'long tow at sea' to that wimpy lil eye bolt. :O:
I find your lack of faith in the power of Kim Jong Il disturbing :stare: Nuclear fusion holds all things together!

[krashkart]

I find your lack of faith in the power of Kim Jong Il disturbing :stare: Nuclear fusion holds all things together!

Incorrect! Only the powers of Glorious Leader hold all things together. :know:

[SteamWake]

I find your lack of faith in the power of Kim Jong Il disturbing :stare: Nuclear fusion holds all things together!

Not duct tape... oh god I have it all wrong !

[Weiss Pinguin]

Not duct tape... oh god I have it all wrong !
Don't you know Kim Jong Il invented duct tape?

[Jimbuna]

Don't you know Kim Jong Il invented duct tape?

LOL, look at what happened to the last poor unfortunate he tested it on.

He obviously said somethingt wasn't appreciated :DL

http://graphjam.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/duct_20tape.jpg

[SteamWake]

http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh312/UlteriorModem/duct_tape.jpg

[MrYenko]

I live maybe 10 miles north of Hollywood, FL, and I've been fishing in that area, and farther offshore, on and off for quite some time.

I find the idea of a submerged submarine in that area a bit hard to believe, and the idea that he was doing anything resembling 20kn nearly impossible. Ive never seen the navigation charts of the area, but my rough knowledge is that the seafloor off the southeast Florida coast is VERY gently sloped. between 3-5nm offshore, I don't think there's many (If any) places where its more than 100-200ft deep.

In water that shallow, I don't see a USN nuke doing more than a few knots, and I seriously doubt anyone else would risk being that close to shore, seeing how there's nothing militarily important to look at, and you're well within US territorial waters. (Lots of NON-military things to look at, though, Particularly if you've got a good magnification factor in your optics... :yeah:)

Either the observer has terrible recollection skills, is lying through his teeth, mistook what he saw, or the North Koreans are coming. :arrgh!:

We'll probably never know, though; If it was a USN vessel, they'll never admit it, and if it wasn't, they'll also never admit it.

[ivank]

EDIT: Decided that was too much personal info, so LEMONS!

[SteamWake]

I live maybe 10 miles north of Hollywood, FL, and I've been fishing in that area, and farther offshore, on and off for quite some time.

I find the idea of a submerged submarine in that area a bit hard to believe, and the idea that he was doing anything resembling 20kn nearly impossible. Ive never seen the navigation charts of the area, but my rough knowledge is that the seafloor off the southeast Florida coast is VERY gently sloped. between 3-5nm offshore, I don't think there's many (If any) places where its more than 100-200ft deep.

In water that shallow, I don't see a USN nuke doing more than a few knots, and I seriously doubt anyone else would risk being that close to shore, seeing how there's nothing militarily important to look at, and you're well within US territorial waters. (Lots of NON-military things to look at, though, Particularly if you've got a good magnification factor in your optics... :yeah:)

Either the observer has terrible recollection skills, is lying through his teeth, mistook what he saw, or the North Koreans are coming. :arrgh!:

We'll probably never know, though; If it was a USN vessel, they'll never admit it, and if it wasn't, they'll also never admit it.

He is right the water is pretty shallow out there till about 10 miles or so.

[TLAM Strike]

D'oh, silly me. When I read Hollywood I thought of California! :damn:

Florida, frack, forget North Korea its was probably Cuban! Maybe one of their new Delfin class midget subs:
http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/9886/minisub.jpg
^Only known photograph. Taken in Havana.

Could perhaps have been a Venezuelan Type 209 class snooping about too.

[MrYenko]

I'd believe a Cuban sub, particularly a minisub. However, it leaves the big question of, WHY.

Cuba can get any intel about this area it needs from any of the several million Cubans living in the area. (Not saying that 99.9% of the local ex-Cubans would do that, just saying that I find it hard to believe the Cuban government doesn't have anyone on the ground here. Ditto to Venezuala or any of the other banana peoples republics)

And if it were just a training mission, precision navigation, or the like, why get so close to shore, and risk an international incident?

[TLAM Strike]

And if it were just a training mission, precision navigation, or the like, why get so close to shore, and risk an international incident? I don't know ask the crew of the Whiskey on the Rocks (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whiskey_on_the_rocks)!

[Oberon]

I don't know ask the crew of the Whiskey on the Rocks (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whiskey_on_the_rocks)!

:har:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXXGep9RB34

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ipyXGjuixI

[Wolfehunter]

I once ate some shrimp and then farted.:rotfl2: Did they change color too... :haha:

[frau kaleun]

:rotfl2: Did they change color too... :haha:

Yes, because I'm a lady which means I fart delightfully scented rainbows. :O:

[krashkart]

Yes, because I'm a lady which means I fart delightfully scented rainbows. :O:

Somewhere Over the (Mercaptan) Rainbow. :har:

[Jimbuna]

Yes, because I'm a lady which means I fart delightfully scented rainbows. :O:

LOL :DL

[gimpy117]

what if it was one of ours...that just didn't want to be bothered with a boater chasing the scope :hmmm:

[TLAM Strike]

Yes, because I'm a lady which means I fart delightfully scented rainbows. :O:

I checked with your credit card company Frau, the last time you ate shrimp the NCA issued a Pinnacle - NUCFLASH alert. :ping:


:O:

[Oberon]

I checked with your credit card company Frau, the last time you ate shrimp the NCA issued a Pinnacle - NUCFLASH alert. :ping:


:O:

:har::har::har::har:

[frau kaleun]

I checked with your credit card company Frau, the last time you ate shrimp the NCA issued a Pinnacle - NUCFLASH alert. :ping:

On the plus side, at least there was no Emergency Evacuation.

[krashkart]

On the plus side, at least there was no Emergency Evacuation.

There wasn't anyone left to evacuate, from what I heard. :DL

[thorn69]

Y'all should stop teasing the girl about her noxious fumes...


http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3277/2498284808_deb87c9a1b.jpg

Sailor Steve is getting angry about it! :har:

[frau kaleun]

There wasn't anyone left to evacuate, from what I heard. :DL

To be fair, the blast area was mostly unpopulated anyway.

http://www.astro.virginia.edu/class/oconnell/astr121/im/tunguska-1.jpg

Shame about the trees though.

[Webster]

I'd believe a Cuban sub, particularly a minisub. However, it leaves the big question of, WHY.




simple, Castro wanted a McDonalds cheese burger :D

[TLAM Strike]

simple, Castro wanted a McDonalds cheese burger :D

And a Coke. :O:

He loves Coke-a-Cola... :yep:

To be fair, the blast area was mostly unpopulated anyway.

http://www.astro.virginia.edu/class/oconnell/astr121/im/tunguska-1.jpg

Shame about the trees though.

and thanks to you it will remain uninhabited for the next 500 years. :)

[Weiss Pinguin]

and thanks to you it will remain uninhabited for the next 500 years. :)
Now we know where these guys came from...
http://talkplaystation.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/resistance2.jpg

[Platapus]

Now we know where these guys came from...
http://talkplaystation.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/resistance2.jpg

What game is that from?

He looks like a nice guy who only needs a hug. :yep:

[Gerald]

I don't know ask the crew of the Whiskey on the Rocks (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whiskey_on_the_rocks)! 1981 as well

:lurk:

[Weiss Pinguin]

What game is that from?

He looks like a nice guy who only needs a hug. :yep:
Resistance: Fall of Man. A group of aliens comes pouring out of Russia years after the Tunguska explosion :p2: