View Full Version : Silent failure 5. Losing my optimism.
oscar19681
06-17-10, 03:56 PM
Well let me just start of saying that silent hunter 5 has potential. I sometimes have fun with it when fully modded. And i even had some fun with it out of the box when ignored all the issues. But since the day this "sim" came out i and many other hardcore players have been finding a way to turn it into the thing we really wanted it to be in the first place. But for about a month now i,ve been pumping mods into sh-5 and it does work to some extent. But i just cant help it to find myself passing some sh-5 time for other good sims simply because it does not feel complete and unfinished. Sure we have all these mods but it takes such a massive s.h.i.tload of mods to make it into the sim i want it to be that i get CTD,s now. I cant blame the modders because they are doing some amazing work out there. For example i finally configured sh-5 into what i would call "close to sh-3 GWX. But after having 5 CTD,S in minutes i just could not help thinking that i just wasted another 40 minutes and i didnt even get near my objective zone. I mean when i have to leave port 5 times because of crashes it drains you right out of the pleasure! Its things like this that make me not toucht the game for another 2 to 3 weeks. It just suck the fun right out of the whole immersion and experience! Sure sh-3 and sh-4 had its issues but sh-5 seems to be such a bad programmed peace of software that its almost impossible to be overlooked! I remember when sh-3 was stuffed with mods it crashed on me from time to time but it was acceptable. Now when sh-5 is fully modded it crashed so i make multiple saves to make my way up from there. Then i save and the save itself makes the game crash only to find out that my other failsave,s have dissapeared allong with it. I,m pretty easy with stuff like this normally but i just cant help thinking that i,m seriously loosing my optimism for sh-5. Not because of the gameplay but simply its f.u.c.k.e.d at the core. And when something is f.u.c.k.e.d at the core its pretty much a sinking ship. Not to mention that UBI has waved its a.s.s goodbye and leave the modders to work hard to sort there s.h.i.t out. Thanks ubi! You gone to fat this time!
mookiemookie
06-17-10, 04:01 PM
You should probably edit out the curse words in your post.
karamazovnew
06-17-10, 04:11 PM
Well, it's times like these that really make me wanna hug Lurker_hlb. SH3 for me is just a bit too buggy with corrupted saves so it's up to Sh4+OM+OMEGU to fill the spot that SH5 has left empty.
Dimitrius07
06-17-10, 04:11 PM
You should probably edit out the curse words in your post.
He censored cursed words, whats the problem? Don`t tell me its a first time you see something like this.
In other words - my cat can run the company better ........
Ducimus
06-17-10, 04:20 PM
Well, it's times like these that really make me wanna hug Lurker_hlb. SH3 for me is just a bit too buggy with corrupted saves so it's up to Sh4+OM+OMEGU to fill the spot that SH5 has left empty.
Lurker has my admiration. He's done an incredible job, and taken on more large projects then i ever had the patience for. People really should check out his work. The problem is alot of people have horse blinders on. They only want to see uboats, and not really give anything else a try. So, SH4 just doesn't even make it on the radar for many.
oscar19681
06-17-10, 04:47 PM
Surely i might just not give up on sh-5 . But for now the bad just outweighs the good. Maybe some complete package in a supermod will clear things up. But for now i will just watch on the sideline to see where sh-5 go,s
krashkart
06-17-10, 04:52 PM
I don't remember which game it was, but I had so much trouble just getting the dang thing to run long enough to enjoy the gameplay that I finally gave up on it. Pretty frustrating when that happens. It was patched later on and ran just fine thereafter. Hopefully that happens for SH5.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMH5_pyiFg0
Karasunx
06-17-10, 05:20 PM
I'm sorry Oscar, that truly sucks. I know how even one CTD can ruin an entire night. I had the same issues with Enigma: Rising Tide and have never touched the game since. It's obvious that everyone has made their minds up about SH5 and either enjoy it or can't stand it. Like so many have said, just give it time and either UBI or the Modders will make it into the game everyone expects. Otherwise, hopefully UBI won't pull the franchise and we can hope for a better SH6 with something for everyone. I think it'd be great if they went back to the Pacific campaign and just alternated every game. It'd be awesome to have the technology behind SH5 with a Gato class sub.
krashkart
06-17-10, 05:22 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMH5_pyiFg0
The ending is classic. :rock:
Gorshkov
06-17-10, 05:36 PM
Unfortunately Oscar19681 is right! SH5 was released as alpha-beta version which means it is much more buggy and unfinished than SH3 and SH4 were in time of their release. In return this means I am not sure SH5 can be acceptably fixed by modders alone. If UBI Soft really abandons SH5 its future is rather dark, I think.
SH5 developer should make available one-two patches bug-fixing vanilla game to a point it will be playable with most annoying hard-coded shortcomings removed and basic features fully functional. Only such SH5 version could become a basis for creation of large super-mods.
The ending is classic. :rock:
Cruise control would have saved her life :haha:
Task Force
06-17-10, 06:42 PM
The big question for me is? Is SH5s Dev team still employed, with UBIs current condition, I dont know.
The big question for me is? Is SH5s Dev team still employed, with UBIs current condition, I dont know.
I'm sure most of these dev companies are on contract terms.
Task Force
06-17-10, 06:53 PM
yea, I guess they would be.
mookiemookie
06-17-10, 07:23 PM
He censored cursed words, whats the problem? Don`t tell me its a first time you see something like this.
In other words - my cat can run the company better that those Ubi$oft c@nts :yeah: :rock:.
No, I have no problem with curse words or seeing them, or as my friends will attest - using them.
But, at the risk of sounding pedantic:
Please use language that you would use around your mother. No vulgarities, obscenities, hate speech, or foul language. Do not use *******ing w*rds with aster*cks, that's the same thing as vulgar languge. Express yourself with respect to others.
scratch81
06-17-10, 09:44 PM
No, I have no problem with curse words or seeing them, or as my friends will attest - using them.
But, at the risk of sounding pedantic:
I agree, i too, am not offended with vulgarity or overall general naughtiness, but the rules are the rules.
ps-I can't help but to find your quote of the *** editing issue a bit ironic, even though you've done the same with your sig. not trying to start anything or be disrespectful to anyone in any manner, merely making an observation:)
I agree, i too, am not offended with vulgarity or overall general naughtiness, but the rules are the rules.
ps-I can't help but to find your quote of the *** editing issue a bit ironic, even though you've done the same with your sig. not trying to start anything or be disrespectful to anyone in any manner, merely making an observation:)Hee Hee!! That was a nice catch Scratch81!!:D
thorn69
06-17-10, 11:06 PM
I agree, i too, am not offended with vulgarity or overall general naughtiness, but the rules are the rules.
ps-I can't help but to find your quote of the *** editing issue a bit ironic, even though you've done the same with your sig. not trying to start anything or be disrespectful to anyone in any manner, merely making an observation:)
Rules were meant to be broken! If people stopped breaking rules then there would be a lot of people out of work and the bad guys would starve. Just think of all the cops and correctional officers out there that pay taxes to house, feed, and medicate the offenders they work so hard to apprehend and detain! Those poor bad guys would go hungry for God's sake!
I mean, we've got to support the United Socialist States of America (USSA), am I right? I mean, Herr Obama would be disappointed if the big bad policeman stopped an "illegal" immigrant and asked him for some bloody identification! I mean sheesh, we're only supposed to be IDing US citizens after all! Every cop has built-in nationality radar didn't you know?! How dare a cop do such a thing to an "illegal" immigrant on his way to a dope house! :doh:
And you think Herr Obama would approve of punishing those that use profanity? Get real! He encourages that too. He said, "I want to know whose a.s.s. to kick" on national television with Matt Lauer for every man, woman, and child in the world to hear! The great one can't be wrong and thinks the only people who need any punishment or restraint are those that enforce rules and regulations!
I'm a cop, so I would know. I used to do my job (the way you used to expect me to) but now that's a bad thing so I don't. Drive through my 65 m.p.h zone at 100+mph and see if I stop you. Not gonna happen. I want to keep my job after all. Times are tough and jobs are scarce! I'm going to just sit there and eat my jelly donuts, drink my coffee, and play a few rounds of Doodle Jump on my Iphone instead. Call me to respond to a domestic scene and I will be 5-0... Meaning I will be about 50 minutes late, so stay strong little lady. I don't want to get there early because I might have a brain fart and resort to my old ways and get slapped with a police brutality suit when I light your abusive "illegal" immigrant boyfriend up like a Christmas tree with 100,00 volts of government issued light saber! Just don't be crazy like 90% of the women out there and stab me in the Kevlar when I'm putting your hot tamale in the back of my patrol car! Otherwise I will light you up as well and yes, you're gonna have a bad hair day! :yep:
Anyways, I think it's unethical for y'all to be asking Neal and the mods on here to do any enforcing. Learn to be forgiving and accepting of those who break "the old rules". It's going to take time for the rules to be changed but count on Obama making that a priority once he's done robbing the wealthy and the poor of all their money first. Hes loves to break the rules and what fun would that be if he already had the rules taken away? :doh:
tonschk
06-17-10, 11:23 PM
Lurker has my admiration. He's done an incredible job, and taken on more large projects then i ever had the patience for. People really should check out his work. The problem is alot of people have horse blinders on. They only want to see uboats, and not really give anything else a try. So, SH4 just doesn't even make it on the radar for many.
:yeah: I Fully agree with you about this :up:
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Onkel Neal
06-17-10, 11:44 PM
Please watch your language, this is supposed to be a place for intelligent discussion.
Rules were meant to be broken! If people stopped breaking rules then there would be a lot of people out of work and the bad guys would starve. Just think of all the cops and correctional officers out there that pay taxes to house, feed, and medicate the offenders they work so hard to apprehend and detain! Those poor bad guys would go hungry for God's sake!
I mean, we've got to support the United Socialist States of America (USSA), am I right? I mean, Herr Obama would be disappointed if the big bad policeman stopped an "illegal" immigrant and asked him for some bloody identification! I mean sheesh, we're only supposed to be IDing US citizens after all! Every cop has built-in nationality radar didn't you know?! How dare a cop do such a thing to an "illegal" immigrant on his way to a dope house! :doh:
And you think Herr Obama would approve of punishing those that use profanity? Get real! He encourages that too. He said, "I want to know whose a.s.s. to kick" on national television with Matt Lauer for every man, woman, and child in the world to hear! The great one can't be wrong and thinks the only people who need any punishment or restraint are those that enforce rules and regulations!
I'm a cop, so I would know. I used to do my job (the way you used to expect me to) but now that's a bad thing so I don't. Drive through my 65 m.p.h zone at 100+mph and see if I stop you. Not gonna happen. I want to keep my job after all. Times are tough and jobs are scarce! I'm going to just sit there and eat my jelly donuts, drink my coffee, and play a few rounds of Doodle Jump on my Iphone instead. Call me to respond to a domestic scene and I will be 5-0... Meaning I will be about 50 minutes late, so stay strong little lady. I don't want to get there early because I might have a brain fart and resort to my old ways and get slapped with a police brutality suit when I light your abusive "illegal" immigrant boyfriend up like a Christmas tree with 100,00 volts of government issued light saber! Just don't be crazy like 90% of the women out there and stab me in the Kevlar when I'm putting your hot tamale in the back of my patrol car! Otherwise I will light you up as well and yes, you're gonna have a bad hair day! :yep:
Anyways, I think it's unethical for y'all to be asking Neal and the mods on here to do any enforcing. Learn to be forgiving and accepting of those who break "the old rules". It's going to take time for the rules to be changed but count on Obama making that a priority once he's done robbing the wealthy and the poor of all their money first. Hes loves to break the rules and what fun would that be if he already had the rules taken away? :doh:
Right. Keep the political rants in GT.
He censored cursed words, whats the problem? Don`t tell me its a first time you see something like this.
In other words - my cat can run the company better ........
The problem is that cencoring your words is not OK either.
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/faq.php?faq=vb_faq#faq_new_faq_item_language
Lurker has my admiration. He's done an incredible job, and taken on more large projects then i ever had the patience for. People really should check out his work. The problem is alot of people have horse blinders on. They only want to see uboats, and not really give anything else a try. So, SH4 just doesn't even make it on the radar for many.
You might be right. Maybe I finally should look in the discount bins for SHIV. But then my other side tells me to stay away from it -- too many bugs etc. The title just brings up negative headlines in my mind. They screwed up the start badly, and it is engraved as a warning. And there is no 2nd first start. But I'll keep an eye open -- afterall it would be perfect strategy to buy a discount SHIV and download all the finished mods, while waiting on someone to "treat" SHV to perfection (if that is still possible and going to happen) and the DRM to be gone.
Well let me just start of saying that silent hunter 5 has potential. I sometimes have fun with it when fully modded. And i even had some fun with it out of the box when ignored all the issues. But since the day this "sim" came out i and many other hardcore players have been finding a way to turn it into the thing we really wanted it to be in the first place. But for about a month now i,ve been pumping mods into sh-5 and it does work to some extent. But i just cant help it to find myself passing some sh-5 time for other good sims simply because it does not feel complete and unfinished. Sure we have all these mods but it takes such a massive s.h.i.tload of mods to make it into the sim i want it to be that i get CTD,s now. I cant blame the modders because they are doing some amazing work out there. For example i finally configured sh-5 into what i would call "close to sh-3 GWX. But after having 5 CTD,S in minutes i just could not help thinking that i just wasted another 40 minutes and i didnt even get near my objective zone. I mean when i have to leave port 5 times because of crashes it drains you right out of the pleasure! Its things like this that make me not toucht the game for another 2 to 3 weeks. It just suck the fun right out of the whole immersion and experience! Sure sh-3 and sh-4 had its issues but sh-5 seems to be such a bad programmed peace of software that its almost impossible to be overlooked! I remember when sh-3 was stuffed with mods it crashed on me from time to time but it was acceptable. Now when sh-5 is fully modded it crashed so i make multiple saves to make my way up from there. Then i save and the save itself makes the game crash only to find out that my other failsave,s have dissapeared allong with it. I,m pretty easy with stuff like this normally but i just cant help thinking that i,m seriously loosing my optimism for sh-5. Not because of the gameplay but simply its f.u.c.k.e.d at the core. And when something is f.u.c.k.e.d at the core its pretty much a sinking ship. Not to mention that UBI has waved its a.s.s goodbye and leave the modders to work hard to sort there s.h.i.t out. Thanks ubi! You gone to fat this time!
I know what you mean. It's been like few months since buying SH5, so after these few months I've tried to play and give a chance to this game once again with all these great MODS (respect to you modders). Even with tons of mods there's still big mess. The feeling of "artificial limbs" overwhelms me. Currently i have some issues with surfacing after diving(cant fully surface) and the crew that flickers, suddenly changes poses and turns around when i talk to them. I don't even know if sonarman do anything, he even doesn't warns you when depth charges are in the water.
WTF is wrong with people that have created this game? Can somebody tell what they were thinking? I'm dying of curiousity and it drives me crazy, really i just can't imagine that. Did they play their own game?
krashkart
06-18-10, 04:36 AM
WTF is wrong with people that have created this game? Can somebody tell what they were thinking? I'm dying of curiousity and it drives me crazy, really i just can't imagine that. Did they play their own game?
There are theories on that. I would be surprised if the devs hadn't played it. What seems to make the best sense to me is that the sim was rushed out the door to meet deadline.
Im sure they did not played this game, there is no way to play this game with stock settings, except.. if u play "dot-style". And I don't think that there were mods available before the official release.
Also, they have a testing department, but there is no way that this game was ever tested... you have to be seriously brain damaged to test this game and not find any bug.
I also lose my optimism, on mod section only TDW mod is being improved and developed, all other mods are abandoned and no new one is surfacing. I so f'ing wanna play this game, but is harder and harder. Only load it for watching the sunrise and the clouds is not enough anymore. I just can't play ancient games, so maybe I should try SH4.. but playing in Pacific with fleet subs.. is weird for me, I dont know if I can manage to do that for more than few hours.
I agree, i too, am not offended with vulgarity or overall general naughtiness, but the rules are the rules.
ps-I can't help but to find your quote of the *** editing issue a bit ironic, even though you've done the same with your sig. not trying to start anything or be disrespectful to anyone in any manner, merely making an observation:)
:haha: oh that's a classic
WTF is wrong with people that have created this game? Can somebody tell what they were thinking? I'm dying of curiousity and it drives me crazy, really i just can't imagine that. Did they play their own game?
Dan (from the Dev team) told us, soon after the release, that he was embarrassed of how SH5 turned out. Embarrassed or ashamed, I forget exactly which word he used. So what does that mean...
I'll have to go with Krashkart and say they were given a very short amount of time. But did they do the best with that short amount of time, that's a whole other question.
The only good news for us subsimers is that if they ever come out with another SH, there's no way they could make this mistake again (errr right?) I'm hoping for a "it can only get better from here" scenario.
Either way, the more posts I read, the more I'm convinced that not buying SH5 was the best money I ever saved.
krashkart
06-18-10, 05:36 AM
Sounds like Dan really wanted something more than what they were able to give us. Probably a safe bet that much of the team feels pretty much the same way.
Yeah, If SHV had had another 8-12 months of development time, it could well have been bloody amazing.
An expansion pack could save it, but that wouldnt be very ethical...
I think we may have to live with what we have as a building block.
Im not playing SHV in current state, ive shelved it until it combomes what it should be.... and Im done with Sh3 & 4.
Sardaukar67
06-18-10, 06:46 AM
Well, I still play SH3 w NYGM and SH4 with RFB/RSRD.
I'll get SH5 when it's in "bargain bin", 9.99 or 5.99 etc., IF DRM has been removed then. It should be modded to at least satisfactory level by then (hopefully)
mookiemookie
06-18-10, 07:08 AM
I agree, i too, am not offended with vulgarity or overall general naughtiness, but the rules are the rules.
ps-I can't help but to find your quote of the *** editing issue a bit ironic, even though you've done the same with your sig. not trying to start anything or be disrespectful to anyone in any manner, merely making an observation:)
:rotfl2:Touche! I had forgotten all about that. Guess it makes me look like a bit of a hypocrite.
Fixed.
Had to fix mine too (Even though it was a quote) :har:
Should I give myself a warning?
Sailor Steve
06-18-10, 11:10 AM
Should I give myself a warning?
I think you should keelhaul yourself, and then make up new accounts so you can come back and tell everybody what a jerk you were for doing that to yourself.
:rotfl2:
Karasunx
06-18-10, 11:15 AM
Yeah, If SHV had had another 8-12 months of development time, it could well have been bloody amazing.
An expansion pack could save it, but that wouldnt be very ethical...
I think we may have to live with what we have as a building block.
Im not playing SHV in current state, ive shelved it until it combomes what it should be.... and Im done with Sh3 & 4.
Actually, just looking at the games industry as it is I wouldn't be surprised if they did offer expansion packs. A lot of games do that, you have the core game and then after it's been out a bit an expansion pack or add on is offered for a price. If (and this is a big IF) SH5 was to follow that model you have the main game, it's tweaked by a few patches, and then an expansion would be released containing a playable Type II/Type IX, or more missions that take you to the end of the war. It's total speculation, but it makes sense with what Ubisoft has done with other games like Assassin's Creed. It's just the business model with today's games.
moscowexile
06-18-10, 02:07 PM
I agree entirely with Oscar's sentiments. The other night I had finally had enough and removed my heavily modded SH5 from the HDD. The disk is now in its box awaiting its resurrection day, but when or if that will ever be is anybody's guess. I am now back with SH3 LSH (and WAC, GWX, NYGM and SH4 with RFB/RSRD). Playing modded SH3 again has been like undergoing post trauma therapy.
Beautiful graphics in SH5; great efforts from the modders, but...I just get no pleasure from the game: it's so incomplete. And I say "game" not "simulator".
What finally made me throw the towel in was a little foray into Scapa Flow. I approached the base in the twilight on the surface, submerged at the entrance to the Flow. Only one DD sniffing around. I torpedoed Ark Royal. Got 4 eels into her. She took several hours to go down, which was not the case in reality. I slipped out of the Flow unmolested, not an RN vessel in sight. In the early hours of the following morning I attacked a cargo vessel. I decided to surface in order to see if His Majesty's navy would at last respond to my presence. I sank two coasters by gunfire and in broad daylight within sight of the Scottish coast. Not an RN vessel to be seen. I then set a course for Kiel.
It was then that I decided to go back to SH3 and SH4.
Nice graphics though.
Frumpkis
06-18-10, 02:13 PM
Actually, just looking at the games industry as it is I wouldn't be surprised if they did offer expansion packs. A lot of games do that, you have the core game and then after it's been out a bit an expansion pack or add on is offered for a price. If (and this is a big IF) SH5 was to follow that model you have the main game, it's tweaked by a few patches, and then an expansion would be released containing a playable Type II/Type IX, or more missions that take you to the end of the war. It's total speculation, but it makes sense with what Ubisoft has done with other games like Assassin's Creed. It's just the business model with today's games.
I agree this is the "new" business model, for better or worse. I think it's also the best evidence that Ubi has washed their hands of the SH series, and there won't be any more patches (or an expansion/DLC). They threw away the potential for selling us DLC, by releasing the game in such a crippled condition.
There is probably still a window of time to patch it up to the point where the core subsim community would pay for DLC, but that window is fast slipping away....
Nisgeis
06-18-10, 02:34 PM
The other night I had finally had enough and removed my heavily modded SH5 from the HDD.
What finally made me throw the towel in was a little foray into Scapa Flow. I approached the base in the twilight on the surface, submerged at the entrance to the Flow. Only one DD sniffing around. I torpedoed Ark Royal. Got 4 eels into her. She took several hours to go down, which was not the case in reality. I slipped out of the Flow unmolested, not an RN vessel in sight.
I don't think you were using the right mods in that case.
Hartmann
06-18-10, 03:19 PM
Ubi is killing shV since the release
They released an unfinished game, the first patch donīt fix anything that modders donīt fix before, and after all, the silence of ubi about future patches and upgrades is freezing all optimism and modders expectatives.
People are waiting for news, but never arrive. I hope that ubi say some thing about the game, if Finished or waiting patch. :nope:
I was a real fan of SH5 when it was released but even with some of the excellant mods, I have turned my back on it.
I have no interest or desire to go back to it, ever.
I now play SH3 GWX and SH4 with op monsun and OMEGU.
I would love the GWX team to go back to SH4 but my time with SH5 is finished.
I refuse to buy another ubisoft game for any system I own.
Wiyhbthe state of the gaming industry at the moment I can see myself giving up gaming quite soon. I have other interests that deserve my time and is more rewarding.
I was a real fan of SH5 when it was released but even with some of the excellant mods, I have turned my back on it.
I have no interest or desire to go back to it, ever.
I now play SH3 GWX and SH4 with op monsun and OMEGU.
I would love the GWX team to go back to SH4 but my time with SH5 is finished.
I refuse to buy another ubisoft game for any system I own.
With the state of the gaming industry at the moment I can see myself giving up gaming quite soon. I have other interests that deserve my time and are more rewarding.
Was the original post even necessary?
Why another post about how bad SH5 is?
Why do we keep having such posts getting made?
If you don't like the game, then don't play it.
If you want the game improved, then either download some of the incredible mods being offered, or get in the scripts and codes yourself and fix it.
Contribute constructive posts. No more of these negative posts please.
scratch81
06-18-10, 08:16 PM
Was the original post even necessary?
Why another post about how bad SH5 is?
Why do we keep having such posts getting made?
If you don't like the game, then don't play it.
If you want the game improved, then either download some of the incredible mods being offered, or get in the scripts and codes yourself and fix it.
Contribute constructive posts. No more of these negative posts please.
So that the rest of us can derail it and turn it into another zombie/alchohol conversation?
krashkart
06-18-10, 10:34 PM
So that the rest of us can derail it and turn it into another zombie/alchohol conversation?
Yep. Or offer optimistic viewpoints. Or both. :D
scratch81
06-18-10, 10:57 PM
Yep. Or offer optimistic viewpoints. Or both. :D
Offering optismistic viewpoints while serving alchohol to zombies. love it.
Its gonna take some time, and a considerable ammount of work to equal sh3/gwx. but i have no doubt it can be achieved.
krashkart
06-18-10, 11:14 PM
Offering optismistic viewpoints while severing alchohol to zombies. love it.
Its gonna take some time, and a considerable ammount of work to equal sh3/gwx. but i have no doubt it can be achieved.
Don't forget; free strudel every Thursday. :yeah: You kind of have to imagine that you actually receive a free strudel, though.
scratch81
06-18-10, 11:19 PM
Don't forget; free strudel every Thursday. :yeah: You kind of have to imagine that you actually receive a free strudel, though.
and the alcohol... and the zombies.... but the other stuff is real... i think.
ps i think its bedtime now, been mispelling alcohol all night... and serving... and probably everything else for the past 2 hrs.
Karasunx
06-19-10, 01:51 AM
Was the original post even necessary?
Why another post about how bad SH5 is?
Why do we keep having such posts getting made?
If you don't like the game, then don't play it.
If you want the game improved, then either download some of the incredible mods being offered, or get in the scripts and codes yourself and fix it.
Contribute constructive posts. No more of these negative posts please.
I have to agree, there's a point where the arguments are moot and fruitless. Some people are having a taff of a time with the game, and others are enjoying what they've got. If a game gets so frustrating to play, don't play it. Put it on the back burner and enjoy something else and then give it another go after a reprieve. SH5 just needs time. Now if you'll excuse me I'm going to sail the Atlantic with my alcoholic zombies while eating strudel :o
tonschk
06-19-10, 08:42 AM
Was the original post even necessary?
Why another post about how bad SH5 is?
Why do we keep having such posts getting made?
If you don't like the game, then don't play it.
If you want the game improved, then either download some of the incredible mods being offered, or get in the scripts and codes yourself and fix it.
Contribute constructive posts. No more of these negative posts please.
If somebody think a woman is ugly, fatty and disgusting, do not make sense to waste his time going to her hause just to tell her that she is ugly fatty and disgusting ,because is better to go to the hause of a nice Slim and pretty woman, If somebody insist to waste his time going again and again to the hause of the ugly fatty and disgusting woman to repeat again and again that she is ugly fatty and disgusting obviously is because he have a second hidden intentions and is looking for something
.
I cannot believe what a shallow, thoughtless, and sexist set of remarks I read in this last post.
If you are just after super models and throw out the ones that have personality along with average looks, you are a real idiot.
Yea the supermodel is hot to have sex with, but it is the average one with the brain that keeps you satisfied.
Comparing Sh5 to a woman is just stupid.
The only thing that works in SH5 are the DRM nagg screens when your connection drops. Go UBI!:yeah:
Kapitanleutnant
06-19-10, 10:10 AM
P-people are being mean about my favourite game!! :wah::wah:
http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/7509/gt58l.gif
If somebody think a woman is ugly, fatty and disgusting, do not make sense to waste his time going to her hause just to tell her that she is ugly fatty and disgusting ,because is better to go to the hause of a nice Slim and pretty woman, If somebody insist to waste his time going again and again to the hause of the ugly fatty and disgusting woman to repeat again and again that she is ugly fatty and disgusting obviously is because he have a second hidden intentions and is looking for something
.
So poetic. You sir, are a master word painter.
mobucks
06-19-10, 12:06 PM
ahahaha nice fatty pig fatty
Was the original post even necessary?
If you don't like the game, then don't play it.
If you don't like the subject, don't read the thread.
Silent Failure 5 is kind of a dead give-away, no?
Sorry, but I thought this was just too obvious. :)
JD
Nisgeis
06-19-10, 02:13 PM
ISilent Failure 5 is kind of a dead give-away, no?
Heh, I didn't even notice that.
tonschk
06-19-10, 02:22 PM
, you are a real idiot.
.
AND YOU ARE A STUPID and Whole IDIOT
The Enigma
06-19-10, 02:29 PM
Hey, there is no need to start the name calling.
Please show some respect to each other, even if you don't agree to
an opinion.
:rock:
Madox58
06-19-10, 02:31 PM
HEY!
Ease up on who you call an Idiot!
:stare:
I happen to hold the Office of Village Idiot, where I live.
Not just anyone can be elected to this position.
Here I am makeing Offical rounds.
:yeah:
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n12/privateer_2006/0806072203.jpg
(And drinking one also!)
krashkart
06-19-10, 05:43 PM
@privateer - love the chopper. :har: WCC or OCC? :DL:rock:
Madox58
06-20-10, 12:37 AM
@privateer - love the chopper. :har: WCC or OCC? :DL:rock:
C2H5OH
:har:
Takeda Shingen
06-20-10, 08:01 AM
Play nice everyone.
The Management
Takeda Shingen
06-20-10, 08:06 AM
If you don't like the subject, don't read the thread.
Silent Failure 5 is kind of a dead give-away, no?
Sorry, but I thought this was just too obvious. :)
JD
Or, perhaps we could refrain from spamming the forum with more rehash of the same topic, always ending in the same result. I thought this was equally obvious.
Or perhaps we should avoid talking about anything at all that you don't personally approve?
Any rules been violated here?
Didn't think so.
Takeda Shingen
06-20-10, 11:21 AM
Or perhaps we should avoid talking about anything at all that you don't personally approve?
Any rules been violated here?
Didn't think so.
Who mentioned the rules? When writing in an official capacity, I always close with 'The Management', as illustrated in post 61; a reference to members calling each other idiots. Post 62 is opinion and conjecture, and as such, the nomenclature is not present.
John Channing
06-20-10, 01:30 PM
Or perhaps we should avoid talking about anything at all that you don't personally approve?
Any rules been violated here?
Didn't think so.
Think again...
What are the Rules and Acceptable Use Policies here?
Subsim.com Radio Room Rules and Acceptable Use Policies (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/faq.php?faq=vb_faq)
The Radio Room forum is not the place for flaming, spewing, or otherwise mouthing off. We do not allow posts where people are called idiots, morons, etc.
Please do not engage in "topic spamming", where you post several threads on the essentially the same topic in a short period of time.
JCC
Krauter
06-20-10, 01:59 PM
can't we all just hug?
Make love not war :D.. or if your homophobic just get drunk and.. yea..
Think again...
JCC
Yeah I always get a kick out of those "rules" and how they are applied. Best interests, good order and discipline, yada yada yada. They're called "catch-all" for a reason.
But more specifically, and to the actual point you were trying to make... I didn't call anyone an idiot and if I'm guilty of topic spamming, so is everyone one else in this place... including the moderators.
And before you point your finger at some post up-thread where the word idiot was used, please note that Mr Samurai's quoted me and his post was directed at me.
Finally, I think it is worth noting that many folks find the specific objection he made (ie, not wanting to hear negative posts about SH5) to be as objectionable as the thing he was objecting to (ie, SH5 sucks and I want my opinion heard).
Nice try though.
krashkart
06-20-10, 04:40 PM
^^ Heeere we go again... :shifty:
Moeceefus
06-20-10, 04:58 PM
i'm still optimistic about sh5 myself. i enjoy it. happy times
Takeda Shingen
06-20-10, 05:42 PM
Yeah I always get a kick out of those "rules" and how they are applied. Best interests, good order and discipline, yada yada yada. They're called "catch-all" for a reason.
But more specifically, and to the actual point you were trying to make... I didn't call anyone an idiot and if I'm guilty of topic spamming, so is everyone one else in this place... including the moderators.
And before you point your finger at some post up-thread where the word idiot was used, please note that Mr Samurai's quoted me and his post was directed at me.
Finally, I think it is worth noting that many folks find the specific objection he made (ie, not wanting to hear negative posts about SH5) to be as objectionable as the thing he was objecting to (ie, SH5 sucks and I want my opinion heard).
Nice try though.
Mr. Samurai. That's cute, and it is really going to help things. Did you not read what I wrote? No one is throwing anyone in the brig [yet], and certainly not over what you wrote. Come on, let's all relax.
Mr. Samurai. That's cute, and it is really going to help things.
Yeah sorry about that. You don't spend much time around here and the word samurai was the only part of your ID that came to mind as I was typing.
Takeda Shingen
06-20-10, 05:48 PM
Yeah sorry about that. You don't spend much time around here and the word samurai was the only part of your ID that came to mind as I was typing.
I've been around since before you even knew what a submarine simulation was, thanks.
I meant this forum specifically. Don't see you around much... except to offer personal opinions in the guise of forum moderation.
And just when was that, BTW?... when I knew what a submarine simulation was, I mean.
Sounds like you know a lot more about me than I know about you.
Or maybe you don't know a damned thing about me (and when I knew what a submarine simulator was) and you're just talking out your azz, hey?
mookiemookie
06-20-10, 06:27 PM
I'll never for the life of me figure out why people antagonize or argue with moderators.
Takeda Shingen
06-20-10, 06:54 PM
Yes, and I gave an excellent example of what not to do. I retorted when baited and exacerbated the situation, which is the opposite of what I have implored the membership to do for the past decade. I clearly did not live up to the ideals of good membership today.
Krauter
06-20-10, 07:04 PM
Can't we all just get along?
Seriously.. pop open a beer, go bash some Tommies (in-game..) and laugh when you keel-bust that T3 Tanker.. err.. Cimmaron
Moeceefus
06-20-10, 08:55 PM
I'll never for the life of me figure out why people antagonize or argue with moderators.
people feel its thier right to question the rules and those who enforce them for some reason. people should pick thier battles better though, its an internet forum about submarines for christ's sake! there are no rights, only priviledges that can be taken away at any time. this is true in most areas of life.
Krauter
06-20-10, 09:06 PM
Geez.. for a bunch of (sim) submariners who should know when to engage, disengage and when to go silent.. some sure seem to have trouble with that :rotfl2:
Placoderm
06-20-10, 10:37 PM
Yes, and I gave an excellent example of what not to do. I retorted when baited and exacerbated the situation, which is the opposite of what I have implored the membership to do for the past decade. I clearly did not live up to the ideals of good membership today.
Respect. :salute:
If you don't like the subject, don't read the thread.
Silent Failure 5 is kind of a dead give-away, no?
Sorry, but I thought this was just too obvious. :)
JD
Respect. :salute:
AND YOU ARE A STUPID and Whole IDIOT
Respect witheld. There is no excuse for this kind of posting. Especially for a simple difference of OPINION. You are better than this, Tonschk. An apology would be in order here.
:-?
robbo180265
06-21-10, 01:45 AM
http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w181/robbo180265/can_t_we_all_just_get_along.jpg
Tonschk,
Talk about taking thing entirely out of context.
You isolate the one part of my whole statement and immediately assume I am directly insulting you.
Here is the part of my response to your oh so wonderful comparison of Sh5 to a "fatty, ugly, woman" (cause we all know that men are in capable of being fatty, and ugly)
"If you are just after super models and throw out the ones that have personality along with average looks, you are a real idiot."
It can be seen in this line that if you meet these criteria, which is in essence a very shallow person, THEN you are an idiot. If you don't understand what I mean, watch Idiocracy, and you may have a better understanding.
Try to read AND understand what others are saying, try not to react to only one word out of context, and try not to fall for the same mistake I fall into, which is take things too personally.
jdkbph
I realize there are big problems with sh5, which is why I even bothered checking this thread.
seeing that it was just another "ubi sucks" thread was disappointing, which is why I made the post I did.
If I am not mistaken, Oscar is one of those that DOES NOT OWN, sh5, which makes his post that much more unnecessary.
(Oscar, correct me if I am wrong about your ownership of the game)
Yes, and I gave an excellent example of what not to do. I retorted when baited and exacerbated the situation, which is the opposite of what I have implored the membership to do for the past decade. I clearly did not live up to the ideals of good membership today.
Most respect to you sir. You and I have sparred before, but this just made my respect of you increase.
It takes a lot to admit to such a gaff.
http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w181/robbo180265/can_t_we_all_just_get_along.jpg
Too cute. This is a face that would stop a torpedo in its wake. :)
Faamecanic
06-21-10, 10:18 AM
Sounds like Dan really wanted something more than what they were able to give us. Probably a safe bet that much of the team feels pretty much the same way.
Give me a break..... I heard the same drivel with SH3 release, SH4, and now this.
I would forgive the Devs if the bugs in SH5 were unique to SH5. But the fact that bugs from SH3 lived through SH4 and now 5, BUGS that I will remind you have been FIXED by modders (screwed up weather, AI that was as dumb as a box of rocks , Sub on rails for example) for free without access to the source code and compiler just shows the lack of attention.
If your going to reuse code ...for CRIPES sakes dont REUSE the bugs that you have had YEARS to fix (or just ask the modders HOW they fixed it...)
Faamecanic
06-21-10, 10:25 AM
If somebody think a woman is ugly, fatty and disgusting, do not make sense to waste his time going to her hause just to tell her that she is ugly fatty and disgusting ,because is better to go to the hause of a nice Slim and pretty woman, If somebody insist to waste his time going again and again to the hause of the ugly fatty and disgusting woman to repeat again and again that she is ugly fatty and disgusting obviously is because he have a second hidden intentions and is looking for something
.
But see here is the problem in your example.... Some of us paid good money for the ugly fatty thinking we were getting a slim pretty (even after getting burned over and over by Ubi...stupid me). And then the games industry has the GAUL to tell us they put these draconian DRM measures in place due to piracy... hummm. The buggy state SH5 was released in SURE does not encourage me to pay good money for another UBI game without "testing for free" first...
My ugly fatty is getting put on the shelf...either some modder makes her look like a Victoria's Secret model or I will throw her in the trash.
***this message is to inform all ugly fatties everywhere that no offence should be taken by this message. If offense has been taken please see the hottie skinny with big breastises for a refund....thank you we now return you to your regularly scheduled flame war***
Nisgeis
06-21-10, 10:50 AM
If I am not mistaken, Oscar is one of those that DOES NOT OWN, sh5
He plays it, so I assume he owns it.
Yea, I may be wrong on Oscar's lack of ownership.
I recall several people dogging SH5, despite also claiming to NOT OWN the game. For some reason I thought Oscar was one of them.
I will be happy to remove my statement of him not owning it, if I am indeed wrong.
Sailor Steve
06-21-10, 12:08 PM
But see here is the problem in your example.... Some of us paid good money for the ugly fatty thinking we were getting a slim pretty (even after getting burned over and over by Ubi...stupid me).
But but for him SH5 is the slim pretty. SH3 is the fatty ugly. And SH5 is indeed very pretty. Just a little brain-dead at the moment.
I think Pythos is trying to get his post count up!:yep:
Sailor Steve
06-21-10, 10:58 PM
I think Pythos is trying to get his post count up!:yep:
^^ :spammm: ^^
:rotfl2:
scratch81
06-21-10, 11:00 PM
I think Pythos is trying to get his post count up!:yep:
Aren't we all? :yeah:
krashkart
06-21-10, 11:41 PM
Give me a break..... I heard the same drivel with SH3 release, SH4, and now this.
I would forgive the Devs if the bugs in SH5 were unique to SH5. But the fact that bugs from SH3 lived through SH4 and now 5, BUGS that I will remind you have been FIXED by modders (screwed up weather, AI that was as dumb as a box of rocks , Sub on rails for example) for free without access to the source code and compiler just shows the lack of attention.
If your going to reuse code ...for CRIPES sakes dont REUSE the bugs that you have had YEARS to fix (or just ask the modders HOW they fixed it...)
Bad day at work? ;) All I did was post what I thought was most likely the case -- didn't expect it to upset anyone later on. Anyway, no hard feelings. :sunny:
I know one release from the entire series, and have read mention of some bugs from that release still being present in newer models. I cannot disagree that those bugs should have been solved by now (like Windows - it should have been fixed aeons ago :haha:). Cheers.
I think Pythos is trying to get his post count up!:yep:
^^ :spammm: ^^
:rotfl2:
Aren't we all? :yeah:
Post count?? We don't need no steenking post count! :stare:
*flashback: memories of the Wild Night in Bangkok avatar...*
:o
On second thought... :rotfl2:
Sailor Steve
06-22-10, 12:21 AM
Hey, live by the post count, die by the post count.
I should know. :dead:
krashkart
06-22-10, 12:39 AM
The post count is mightier than the sword. :yep:
SteelViking
06-22-10, 01:29 AM
Hey, live by the post count, die by the post count.
I should know. :dead:
Should you now:hmmm:---->25,000+.........hmmmm......yes I believe you are correct sir.:har:
JScones
06-22-10, 03:23 AM
Geez, all we need now are zombie posts...
krashkart
06-22-10, 04:53 AM
Geez, all we need now are zombie posts...
http://imgcash6.imageshack.us/img110/1235/zombiexv8.gifhttp://imgcash6.imageshack.us/img110/1235/zombiexv8.gifhttp://imgcash6.imageshack.us/img110/1235/zombiexv8.gif
I don't see any zombies here. :hmmm:
http://imgcash6.imageshack.us/img110/1235/zombiexv8.gifhttp://imgcash6.imageshack.us/img110/1235/zombiexv8.gifhttp://imgcash6.imageshack.us/img110/1235/zombiexv8.gif
I don't see any zombies here. :hmmm:Jaesens starting to worry me, I wonder if he's been bitten!:hmmm:
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