is Silenter Hunter 5 worth buying

[sidslotm]

Hi,

I really don't what to start another of those "will it won't it " kind of threads. The debri has settle on the seabed forever, the starkness of our reality is before us, is Sh5 worth it (forget the DRM stuff) - is the product worth the brass.

If SH5 where the car you saved up for, would you recomend it to your mother in law. :DL, heh.



Just when you thought it would't get any darker,
the light if all reason goes out,
and there in the depths is a shadow,
as deep and dark as your doubt - PS

[Kapitanleutnant]

If SH5 were a car I would definitely recommend it to my mother in law.
You never know; the brakes and steering might fail just as she's driving around a narrow mountain road, taking her and her awful car to a fiery grave.

[Nisgeis]

Whatever anyone else thinks, it won't apply to you. I can only say that for the number of hours enjoyment I have obtained from SH5, compared to the price I paid, then I think it is 'worth' it. But whatever your definition of worth is will be different to mine and how much you enjpy it will be different, so whether I think it's worth it or not really won't help you.

Also, whether or not I would recommend it to my mother-in-law or not, would depend on whether I liked her or not, as if I didn't like her, then I wouldn't recommend a good car to her. But anyway, to answer the question. no, I wouldn't recommend it to my mother in law, if it were a car, because she off a cliff in her last car, which was based on SH3.

[Zedi]

Yes and No, depend on price. If you have to spend 50 EUR like I did, then No, not worth that price. If you can get it cheaper, like 20 EUR or so, then go for it, no reason to not buy it. Except if you are not an old guy who love only ancient games, like Mario, SH3 and so on.

[Jimbuna]

If SH5 were a car I would definitely recommend it to my mother in law.
You never know; the brakes and steering might fail just as she's driving around a narrow mountain road, taking her and her awful car to a fiery grave.

ROFLMAO :rotfl2:

Hey, have we got the same mother-in-law? :hmmm:

@OP

At the price being asked now and in view of the current ongoing mod work it is a good buy IMHO :yep:

[Reece]

If SH5 were a car I would definitely recommend it to my mother in law.
You never know; the brakes and steering might fail just as she's driving around a narrow mountain road, taking her and her awful car to a fiery grave.Cripes that's a bit rough, I wouldn't recommend SH5 to my worst enemy!:nope:

[JU_88]

Yes.

[TDK1044]

Yes it is. The modders have already done great work with this game, and they will continue to make significant improvements over the next 12 months.

We can only hope that Ubisoft decides to reallocate their servers and offer up a patch for SH5 to remove the DRM component. That is the point at which I would purchase the game, but if you can live with the DRM, buy it anyway and enjoy the talent of the modders :)

[SteelViking]

I am basically of the same mind as Nisgeis. For the amount you will pay for it(especially if you get it used on amazon or something similar), you will get more than enough entertainment out of it.

However, it does have its problems, glitches, missing features that were in earlier Silent Hunters, etc. But, with the right mods, you can really turn it into a respectable game, and more mod work is being done every day.

[edu]

Price doesn´t matter.
The time you are going to waste is the real point. Silent Hunter V is a bad game. Don´t waste your time on it. There are other impresive videogames, try them. :03:

[mookiemookie]

Yes it is. The modders have already done great work with this game, and they will continue to make significant improvements over the next 12 months.

We can only hope that Ubisoft decides to reallocate their servers and offer up a patch for SH5 to remove the DRM component. That is the point at which I would purchase the game, but if you can live with the DRM, buy it anyway and enjoy the talent of the modders :)

+1

Some of the mod work being done behind the scenes is quite impressive, not to mention the stuff that's already out there. I think you'll see a snowball effect as well - as the mods get better and better, you'll get more people playing and modding the game. And if Ubi decides in their infinite wisdom to remove the DRM requirement, you'll see an injection of new lifeblood into the game also.

[JU_88]

Price doesn´t matter.
The time you are going to waste is the real point. Silent Hunter V is a bad game. Don´t waste your time on it. There are other impresive videogames, try them. :03:

On the flip side there is also a lot of way crappier games.
As games go SHV is pretty decent and TBH, no worse than the previous two games were out of the box - sure its not great now, but it will improve over time.
Think of it as an investment. :)

Do you really want another bland FPS game featuring stereotypes in oversized space marine armour?

[Sailor Steve]

Except if you are not an old guy who love only ancient games, like Mario, SH3 and so on.
HEY! I resemble that remark! I am an old guy, but I don't love only ancient games. In fact, I don't love games at all, but I do love history, and I love playing games that involve history, or at least submarines.

I've read all the good and all the bad comments, and to me it doesn't matter. I'll be buying SH5 the very instant they'll let me play it. And I'll gladly pay full price when I do buy it. :sunny:

[Gorshkov]

I think the crucial fact to consider is if UBI really abandoned this game now and no future patches will be released. If so, we definitely shouldn't buy SH5 unless for a very low price. Well, all modding effort is worth praising but sorry - I am not interested in playing this game after applying several dozen probably not fully compatible mods which does not fix all SH5 glitches anyway because many of them are hard-coded. Yes, some super-mod is badly needed but no way it will appear this year. All in all there is no reason to buy SH5 now. The better choice is wait couple of months for price lovering, maybe new patches fixing hard-coded bugs and at least one polished super-mod.

PS. Of course I skipped entire DRM issue here.

[Sailor Steve]

PS. Of course I skipped entire DRM issue here.
:yeah:

I didn't skip it entirely but I did dance around it a bit.
:rotfl2:

[convoy hunter]

:hmmm::hmmm:

[Faamecanic]

I paid full price ($50) for SH5 and have played maybe 20 hours worth. Now if you equate that to going to a movie at matinee rates of $7.50+$5.00 for drinks and popcorn = $12.50.

SO: $50/20 hours = $2.50/hr for SH5

Average movie is 2 hours so $12.50/2 = $6.25/hr

If I go by a $ to enjoyment hour comparison (strictly) then SH5 was a bargin!!

With that said...after 20 hours of playing SH5 I just cant get the immersion that is going to keep my interest. Im still playing SH3 with GWX...and even without the "pretty" graphics I still find myself more enjoying SH3 more. MUCH more variety of ships, I dont have AI friendly ships trying thier best to ram me, DD's actually are dangerous...etc etc.

If you love eyecandy more than Simulation...then you will be OK. If your a sim grognard...then SH5 will be a letdown (until some more mod work happens).

Bottom line....wait for bargin bin IMHO.

[Nisgeis]

All in all there is no reason to buy SH5 now. The better choice is wait couple of months for price lovering, maybe new patches fixing hard-coded bugs and at least one polished super-mod.

Oh, I get it. It's fashionable to criticise the game as unworthy and there's no reason for anyone to buy the game, unless they are modders, who should slave away for a year on a super mod so that all the people who say the game is worthless now, can later enjoy it! Now you put it like that, I can see how that makes sense.

[krashkart]

OP, I think in a couple years' time SH5 will be pretty as a polished garnet with all the work being put into it by the community. Once some utilities start coming out that allow easier modification to the data files we'll start to see more super shiny addons. And there is no doubt in my mind that someone will be crazy enough to build a robust campaign. Just look at what's been done with the previous titles. Subsim doesn't let a good sim die. :salute:

It's your wallet. Do with it what you will. In the long term you might be pleasantly surprised -- but that's just my optimistic outlook. :)

[robbo180265]

I'd go along with most of the opinions here. If you can get the game cheap and your machine can run it , then you'd be silly not to IMO.

It'll be a while before it's a sim as such , but it's playable with mods and enjoyable too.

[Gorshkov]

Oh, I get it. It's fashionable to criticise the game as unworthy and there's no reason for anyone to buy the game, unless they are modders, who should slave away for a year on a super mod so that all the people who say the game is worthless now, can later enjoy it! Now you put it like that, I can see how that makes sense.

It perfectly makes sense! Besides note I stated that also developer should patch this game to SH3 ver. 1.3 playability state so not only modders should do the job. Now stock SH5 is simply quite expensive beta-freak.

[Nisgeis]

I don't think another patch will appear unfortunately. The game is still enjoyable though, if you enjoy it. No need for the OP to wait a year, when he could be enjoying it now and then enjoy it even more when a super mod is released.

[sidslotm]

Oh, confused, no, you will be, :)

I gotta confess when I bought Sh4 all that time ago, well I thought it was poor, but I recently intalled OM and I'm diving again and I would like to say thanks to all the modders out there. I don't know how they do it, with long hours I guess :)

I really do want to set sail with SH5, even though I was a compainer about the "shhh, you know what" I suppose if Ubi sold used cars to mother in laws they'd be right up there, heh.

When I read the post here I want to prowl the western approaches again in SH5, who knows. Be nice if Ubi finished the war, who knows maybe they've planned an update like UBM in SH4 and will finish what they started.

Thanks guys.


"it is necessary to disagree with all who would control your Spirit"

[edu]

On the flip side there is also a lot of way crappier games.
As games go SHV is pretty decent and TBH, no worse than the previous two games were out of the box - sure its not great now, but it will improve over time.
Think of it as an investment. :)

Do you really want another bland FPS game featuring stereotypes in oversized space marine armour?

I envy the love and work that other developers and publishers show in their games.
Don´t subsimmers deserve "decent" games?

Silent hunter III released unfinished, Silent Hunter IV released unfinished. Now Silent Hunter V is acceptable because of them? It was released at 70% and buggy... I fear the future game!
Silent Hunter V is NOT acceptable.
It´s the only one subsim, nothing more, and it is not pretty decent today.

Of course I wan´t other space marine! :arrgh!:

[krashkart]

Of course I wan´t other space marine! :arrgh!:

I'd like to see something along the lines of an intergalactic Uboat crewed by... scantily-clad female Space Marines. :up:

[Jimbuna]

I don't think another patch will appear unfortunately. The game is still enjoyable though, if you enjoy it. No need for the OP to wait a year, when he could be enjoying it now and then enjoy it even more when a super mod is released.

I'm hoping for at least one more patch and an announcement no more patches will be forthcoming.

Only then will a supermod (if at all) be a possibility.

There is no point in undertaking such a mammoth task for fear of an as yet unreleased patch 'breaking' said work.

[Gorshkov]

You are absolutely right, jimbuna! Without clear UBI statement about future of SH5 any super-mod project will not be feasible.

[Nisgeis]

I'm hoping for at least one more patch and an announcement no more patches will be forthcoming.

Only then will a supermod (if at all) be a possibility.

There is no point in undertaking such a mammoth task for fear of an as yet unreleased patch 'breaking' said work.

Absolutely, but the point was that SH5 is enjoyable now, so there's no need to wait for a patch or wait for a year for a super-mod or anything nice like that, before diving in and playing.

[Ducimus]

This game needs * A LOT * of work. Ive uninstalled it, and reinstalled it twice this week. I keep finding road blocks on the path of enjoyment.

road block number 1:
Missing functionality that i'm accustomed to having from SH3/SH4.
Example: Lack of range readout on target, or being able to read all messages including the ones i sent (i like to send status reports as a quick patrol summary readout), or full logs indicating when i left port.

road block number 2:
Unfixed bugs.
Example: Having your crew gyrate 360 degrees or turn in the exact opposite direction when talking to them bugs the hell out of me.

road block number 3:
Technical or historical innaccuracies.
Example: This morning the rapid fire staccato sounding deck gun made short work of a 4,000 ton merchant. BTW, i stopped diving for planes. Why dive? they don't even seem vector DD's to my area. Insert U571 here.... "Everybody wave."

In sum, this game needs to overcome and find workarounds for missing functionality, fix bugs, and then tune to historical accuracy. From my experience with SH4, this is about 1 and a half to 2 years worth of work for the modders involved.

[Gorshkov]

SH5 is not enjoyable now...because it simply cannot be. :)

[JU_88]

In sum, this game needs to overcome and find workarounds for missing functionality, fix bugs, and then tune to historical accuracy. From my experience with SH4, this is about 1 and a half to 2 years worth of work for the modders involved.

+1
It's pointless to begin to discuss supermods while the game is 3 and half months old.
As Ducimus says, it will take years to get SHV to what is should be and that's only if everyone stays intreasted and pulls their creative weight...
If a supermod comes out in the next few months, I doubt it wouldnt be much more than a compilation of the current mods, (not that that would be a bad thing)
SHV needs the broke stuff fixed AND it needs new stuff.
Half the war is missing for starters, I'd love to see a playable allied sub or two, but we dont even have the Type IX yet.

[THE_MASK]

Plain and simple , i enjoy it with all the mods now . It is only going to get better so i say it is worth buying .

[Karasunx]

I enjoyed it stock and I enjoy it more-so with the mods that have come out. And yes, I think it was worth the 50$ I put down for it.

[Faamecanic]

In sum, this game needs to overcome and find workarounds for missing functionality, fix bugs, and then tune to historical accuracy. From my experience with SH4, this is about 1 and a half to 2 years worth of work for the modders involved.

Hummm maybe I need to try SH4 again. Just like SH5, I bought it when it first came out (regretted it), played it for about 10-20 hours with each patch and was disappointed, bought the PAY for Patch expansion (Uboat missions), played for 20 hours... shelved it due to immersion killing bugs. Havent played it since...

So what MODS would folks recommend for SH4? I like MEG Mods so I dont have to fiddle with installing 100 mods only to have to find the 10 conflicting mods.... :rotfl2:

[sidslotm]

So what MODS would folks recommend for SH4? I like MEG Mods so I dont have to fiddle with installing 100 mods only to have to find the 10 conflicting mods....


Yeah I'm on SH4 right now, these mods have given new life like a reborn sim, thats if you like the Uboats campain.

Spax SH4 Uboat SPeech FIX_V8
OpsMonsun V705
OM 705 to 720
OM v720 patch4
OMEGU v300 + patch7

I recon I will get SH5 if only to support it at some point, at the moment though SH4 has my full attention. I find the UBM the only way. The only improvent I could ask is a Jap boat to take on the mighty USA, or even a Brit boat to sink the Uboats.

When you ponder the possibilties that this sim could offer I recon Ubi only scratched the bottom :DL thanks

sid

"it is necessary to disagree with all who would control your Spirit"

[oscar19681]

As it is now. sh-5 is great with tons of mods. But if you have sh-5 with all the mods it needs to make it something like gwx its good , but the problem is you have so many mods that they conflict with each other and the game becomes unstable.

[Gorshkov]

One guy on UBI forum has about forty mods installed at the same time... :o

[pickinthebanjo]

I find the UBM the only way. The only improvent I could ask is a Jap boat to take on the mighty USA, or even a Brit boat to sink the Uboats.

sid

"it is necessary to disagree with all who would control your Spirit"

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=168760
Playable British T-class

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=170639&page=5
Playable English Campaign

[tonschk]

Plain and simple , i enjoy it with all the mods now . It is only going to get better so i say it is worth buying .


:up: I Totally Agree :yeah:, I LOVE the Silent Hunter 5 Simulator :rock: yes I know SH5 is not yet 100% Perfect but it is Improving every day with modifications

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[sidslotm]

wow - thanks for that pickinthebanjo, I'm right on it.






"it is necessary to disagree with all who would control your Spirit"

[SmG]

I had the same y/n question before... SH5 had so many negative comments, :D don't blame me for this..
Then I regretted for my 4GB download space and 6GB install space...
It is more "game" than "sim", imo it is a complex version of silent hunter online.
The only good side of SH5 is that, it provides a good frame for modders and scripters.

[Aktungbby]

And welcome aboard belatedly SmG on this your second post:Kaleun_Salute: