Ubisoft is Toast

[Drifter]

In my opinion, Ubisoft is toast:

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Ubisoft shares have lost about 90% of their value in only 2 years. They are bleeding money like a slaughtered pig. Their stock value is now hovering around $7.50 per share. They have supposedly cut their staff from 400 down to only 50.

They are infamously well-known for releasing buggy, half-finished games, horrible customer service/communication, draconian DRM, and lack of correctly patching same said buggy, half-finished games. A perfect example is the recent SH5 release. They released only one patch that didn't address most of the hard-coded problems that remained in SH5, then dropped all support. They basically took the money and ran, leaving the paying customers with a still-unfinshed, buggy game. It was probably their plan to do this even before the SH5 release.

I am predicting sometime next year (2011) they will be forced to file bankruptcy. Good riddance. You won't be missed. :down:

[Lord_magerius]

Hopefully they'll take a good hard look at themselves. :yeah:

[Drifter]

Hopefully they'll take a good hard look at themselves. :yeah:
I doubt it. Their business practices wouldn't allow that. With the way things are looking, they might not even survive through the end of 2010.

[krashkart]

Don't count your chickens before they hatch. It is fun to dream, though. :D

"Rohr eins. Los!" *Ubi sinks*
"Rohr zwei. Los!" *EA sinks*

Apologies for my bad Deutsch.

[Drifter]

Don't count your chickens before they hatch. It is fun to dream, though. :D

"Rohr eins. Los!" *Ubi sinks*
"Rohr zwei. Los!" *EA sinks*

Apologies for my bad Deutsch.

:DL I think the dream will soon become reality. With such a large drop in such a short time, their stock value is nearing bankruptcy territory.

[Lord_magerius]

They have nobody to blame but themselves really

Edit: Just noticed that the drop in shares starts when Ubi started introducing the DRM into nearly all of their games. Coincidence? I think not

[Drifter]

They have nobody to blame but themselves really

I agree. They burned their customers one too many times. Plus the world is currently gripped in an economic depression. There is much less discretionary spending money available to spend on video games and such.

[Reece]

What annoys me is why don't they listen to what their customers want, and treat them with highest respect, games are supposed to fun, enjoyable to their customers/buyers.:doh: They are actually punishing the paying customers for piracy, go figure!:stare:

[krashkart]

^^ Yeah, there are indie developers that make so much less on their games, who can take the time to communicate one-on-one with their customers. I respect that, and I spread the word about those companies. This one's for Cliffski >> (POSITECH GAMES RULES (http://positech.co.uk/)) :()1:

They burned their customers one too many times. Plus the world is currently gripped in an economic depression.

That, and then some. :up:

[Ducimus]

Ubisoft will lay blame on piracy. Never on themselves. :haha:

[SteamWake]

Once again a producer becomes so big they loose touch with the 'players' and begin to listen to the coorprate lawyers... its all down hill at that point.

Shame.... ah for the days of dynamix.

[Buddahaid]

Once again a producer becomes so big they loose touch with the 'players' and begin to listen to the coorprate lawyers... its all down hill at that point.

Shame.... ah for the days of dynamix.

But not "Too big to fail".

[gimpy117]

Sadly though...in a way they will be missed :cry:. They dug their own grave... but, we all still remember that day when we first picked Up SH3....those were the days.

[FIREWALL]

If UBISOFT comes out with something Shiney and Sparklie you'll all drop to your knees and yell " MASTER" !!!

We obey. :O: I seen to much jumping from one Bandwagon to the other to feel other wise.

You all are gonna get what you paid for. Wishes and Dreams. But... forget about what counts.

[Zachstar]

They cant compete..

They have bad DRM and unfinished titles they have become known as a publisher to stay away from. This christmas they will be broadsided by EA and others and I doubt they will last very long into 2011 before ending it.

There is no chance of SH6 now..

[krashkart]

If UBISOFT comes out with something Shiney and Sparklie you'll all drop to your knees and yell " MASTER" !!!

We obey. :O: I seen to much jumping from one Bandwagon to the other to feel other wise.

You all are gonna get what you paid for. Wishes and Dreams. But... forget about what counts.

Those damn companies target the younger people, FIREWALL, not old f$%^ers like you and me. We have to watch our wallets. They don't know what a wallet is yet. :lol:

[Weiss Pinguin]

There is no chance of SH6 now..
That's probably a good thing...

[Castout]

Good riddance.


Hey I didn't feel cruel saying that. Feels good in fact.:haha:

[Sailor Steve]

Well, if it will be more of the same, I start to agree.

[Ducimus]

There is no chance of SH6 now..

There never was a chance for SH6 to begin with, and it is a good thing, because all that would end up happening is they'd use SH5 as a base, which used Sh4 as a base, which is in all reality, a developer made supermod of SH3. The kicker is that alot of small details in the way of functionality have been lost as a result. Every level of indirection they move from the base code, the worse the title becomes. Since Ubi would never TRULY make a new game from the ground up, with ALL new code.... no SH6 is a good thing.

[krashkart]

^^ What about SH6 minus Ubi, Ducimus? Could be done. :yep:





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[UnderseaLcpl]

The situation for Ubisoft does not look good at all. I can't say for sure without looking at their net worth, or any press conferences, but I imagine that they will be accquired by someone else soon. If they are accquired, it is anyone's guess as to whether Ubisoft Romania will remain. I simply cannot make an educated guess on this subject, so I'll just cross my fingers.

[CCIP]

Well, a basic common-sense law of commerce is that if you do bad business, you lose your business. I think Ubisoft has done bad business over the last couple of years. Their executive decision-makers have seriously misjudged the nature of the market and made some very bad decisions. It's only fair that they and their shareholders pay for them - the dedicated players have already paid plenty.

[Skybird]

Sadly though...in a way they will be missed :cry:.
Hardly.

Releasing unfinished, rushed, buggy games, running unsufficient patching business and maintaining lousy customer relations, does not make you a champion with your intended customers.

[CCIP]

I think it's more accurate to say that some of their titles and franchises will be missed.

I don't know if Ubisoft going down would really be a good or bad thing for gaming. It's probably not very good. But in order to break the status quo, sacrifices have to be made... the industry can't move forward when it's dominated by the likes of EA and Ubi.

[krashkart]

^^ The pot really needs a good stirring. Big companies have the resources to mass-publish, mass-advertise a game. But big companies also have a way of looking after their own gains before anything else.

[Wolfehunter]

They did it to themselves. They can only blame themselves for there own stupidity. But I'm sure they blame pirates... lol :har::arrgh!:

[Jimbuna]

If they do go down the pan (and I sincerely hope they don't) the majority of the cause will have been self inflicted.

Money is extremely tight for every customer base these days and the only way your going to get them to part with any of that money is by having the products that are attractive to them.

[NeonSamurai]

The irony to me is that I personally consider EA to be just as bad, if not worse. EA is notorious for releasing lots of half finished, buggy or broken games, pretending they will fix them, and then dumping them. Only their triple A titles get any kind of attention or polish (the sims). Then of course there is EA sports, which releases the same game with a few touch-ups year after year after year after year after year. They also are fans of draconian DRM (though smart enough to back off when the consumer backlash hit). Last they love to release tons of stupid little addons and other crap.

Anyhow, I hope they finish the Assassin's Creed series before going under (oh and they better strip the online DRM). It's about the only series I have any interest in from them any more.

[Raptor1]

EA is definitely worse. People barely even noticed when EA used the online-required DRM even before Ubi...

[Weiss Pinguin]

The irony to me is that I personally consider EA to be just as bad, if not worse. EA is notorious for releasing lots of half finished, buggy or broken games, pretending they will fix them, and then dumping them. Only their triple A titles get any kind of attention or polish (the sims). Then of course there is EA sports, which releases the same game with a few touch-ups year after year after year after year after year. They also are fans of draconian DRM (though smart enough to back off when the consumer backlash hit). Last they love to release tons of stupid little addons and other crap.
Maybe with one of the giants under more developers will come out and fill whatever vacuum is left behind :hmmm: Until EA snatches them up that is...

[Bilge_Rat]

In my opinion, Ubisoft is toast:


Ubisoft shares have lost about 90% of their value in only 2 years. They are bleeding money like a slaughtered pig. Their stock value is now hovering around $7.50 per share. They have supposedly cut their staff from 400 down to only 50.

They are infamously well-known for releasing buggy, half-finished games, horrible customer service/communication, draconian DRM, and lack of correctly patching same said buggy, half-finished games. A perfect example is the recent SH5 release. They released only one patch that didn't address most of the hard-coded problems that remained in SH5, then dropped all support. They basically took the money and ran, leaving the paying customers with a still-unfinshed, buggy game. It was probably their plan to do this even before the SH5 release.

I am predicting sometime next year (2011) they will be forced to file bankruptcy. Good riddance. You won't be missed. :down:

..and in the same two years, EA has lost 70% and Sony has lost 45% of its share price.

The drop in stock price has more to do with the ongoing worldwide recession than anything else. Most analysts still rate Ubi has a good long term investment. It will be around for many years for everyone to continue taking shots at...

[mookiemookie]

Seeing what's happened to the SH series has chased me away from Ubisoft altogether. RUSE looked kind of interesting, but when I found out that it was published by Ubisoft, I refuse to even consider buying it.

They fail to realize that by not putting out quality products, even if they're niche products like the SH games, they affect sales of all their product lines.

I doubt they'll be out of business, but I don't doubt they'll be gobbled up by someone if the share price gets low enough.

[Bilge_Rat]

I doubt they'll be out of business, but I don't doubt they'll be gobbled up by someone if the share price gets low enough.

that is a more likely scenario than bankruptcy.

[Sonarman]

In my opinion, Ubisoft is toast:


Ubisoft shares have lost about 90% of their value in only 2 years. They are bleeding money like a slaughtered pig. Their stock value is now hovering around $7.50 per share. They have supposedly cut their staff from 400 down to only 50.
...

I am predicting sometime next year (2011) they will be forced to file bankruptcy. Good riddance. You won't be missed. :down:

Ubisoft Romania was downsized from 400 to 50, it is only a tiny portion of the Ubi empire and this downsizing happened I think a long time ago, probably when Romania became part of the EU just after the release of SH3!

This year Ubi shifted 9 million copies of Assasins Creed 2. I don't think Ubi is about to just disappear with sales numbers like that. Although judging by their latest just announced title (http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/gaming/news/a227517/ubisoft-unveils-new-michael-jackson-game.html) they deserve to!!

[FIREWALL]

Those damn companies target the younger people, FIREWALL, not old f$%^ers like you and me. We have to watch our wallets. They don't know what a wallet is yet. :lol:

I agree. I think UBISOFT has been King of the Hill for too long.

Only time will tell if their Reputation is all that important to them.

It wasn't with a company like Imron and others.

The ball is in their court now. We shall see how they handle it.

SHV has only been out roughly 3 1/2 mo.

To second guess how they'll handle it is a waste of time and reminds me of a bunch of old ladies wringing their hands and fretting.

The game is playable and modable at this time.

It's when you can't logon and play is when UBI has some legal questions. to answer.

As far as a patch goes if, you haven't seen one by Sept ( 6 mo's ) you can assume support in that area is over.

My BET is a Patch that ends DRM and then allows you to play offline and online on theirs other servers by September.

[Bilge_Rat]

As far as a patch goes if, you haven't seen one by Sept ( 6 mo's ) you can assume support in that area is over.

My BET is a Patch that ends DRM and then allows you to play offline and online on theirs other servers by September.

Sounds about right. After the game has been out for 6 months, Ubisoft will have realized most of the sales they can expect from the game. Ubi wont want to keep up the expense of keeping servers online for SH5 forever.

[FIREWALL]

Sounds about right. After the game has been out for 6 months, Ubisoft will have realized most of the sales they can expect from the game. Ubi wont want to keep up the expense of keeping servers online for SH5 forever.

You are so right. :up:

[Arclight]

Although judging by their latest just announced title (http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/gaming/news/a227517/ubisoft-unveils-new-michael-jackson-game.html) they deserve to!!
I think you missed a few...

Child Of Eden Is Basically Rez For The PlayStation Move, Kinect (http://kotaku.com/5563293/this-is-basically-rez-for-the-playstation-move)

Another World Creator Back With A New Game: Project Dust (http://kotaku.com/5563523/another-world-creator-back-with-a-new-game-project-dust)

If yer gonna bash, get yer facts straight.


Don't care about the project Natal, oh sorry, Kinect nonsense, but "Dust" looks promising and actually refreshing.

Ubi ain't going nowhere. :-?

[Sonarman]

I think you missed a few...
...
If yer gonna bash, get yer facts straight.


Don't get me wrong my post was not so much a criticism of Ubi products in general rather more a statement on the continued glorification and profiteering from the "fallen idol" Michael Jackson. That Ubi got us this far with SH is very much in their credit and I for one am still willing to give them another chance which many here quite understandably are not.

[Arclight]

Sorry, my bad. :oops:


The whole "Ubi sux" argument is wearing me down. Not to defend the company; delivering a product in the state the Silent Hunter series is in at release is unacceptable. Doesn't mean everything that comes out of there is bad quality, or signals the end of the company.

[Rilder]

Meh the dev teams just need to learn they don't need a crappy publisher like UBI in order to get their games out. Make a good game and people will buy it, you don't need a publisher advertising and hyping it and telling you how to make your game in order to get more sales.

[Rockin Robbins]

If they read the graph they'll merely turn it upside down and say it's a thing of beauty! Guess they showed those pirates, didn't they?:har:

Can't say they don't richly deserve their fate.

[Platapus]

Now I will have to buy some Ubi stock along with some BP stock. :yeah:

[Reece]

Surely UBI must have someone or even a few people that check the web etc for PR and to see what people think of their games/company, I don't believe a company as big as UBI will totally bury their heads in the ground and ignore what is going on!:hmmm: A DRM patch for SH5 will come out when sales have died off, this will do 2 things:

1) Relieve their server load.
2) For those who haven't purchased the game because of the DRM. (many don't have a good enough internet connection to stay online)

This will give another influx of sales, money is money after all!:yep:
BTW, I haven't purchased a game for several months, not because of economic reasons but because of online DRM, I don't like Steam and refuse to install it, so the number of good games available have really dropped, the only thing that seems to have increased is piracy, I am actually considering X-Box, at least that is online DRM free, wonder for how long!! Sad isn't it.:-?

[Drifter]

Ubisoft Romania was downsized from 400 to 50, it is only a tiny portion of the Ubi empire and this downsizing happened I think a long time ago, probably when Romania became part of the EU just after the release of SH3!

This year Ubi shifted 9 million copies of Assasins Creed 2. I don't think Ubi is about to just disappear with sales numbers like that. Although judging by their latest just announced title (http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/gaming/news/a227517/ubisoft-unveils-new-michael-jackson-game.html) they deserve to!!

I knew it wouldn't be long before the Ubisoft cheerleaders showed up in this thread. You are wrong, Sonarman. As I have said before, sales and profits are two different things.

Ubisoft Posts Losses As Assassin's Creed II Nears 9 Million

French Splinter Cell publisher Ubisoft recorded a decrease in sales and a loss for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2010, blaming worldwide economic downturn.

The company on Tuesday recorded a 17.7 percent drop in annual sales to €871 million ($1.08 billion), and posted a loss of €43.7 million ($54.02 million).

Ubisoft CEO Yves Guillemot said in a statement, "The global economic crisis had a pronounced impact on the video game industry in 2009, which contracted by nearly 10 percent year-on-year."

"Ubisoft’s sales were hit particularly hard, falling 18 percent over the full year despite a stabilization in the second half of the year, when figures came in on a par with the corresponding period of 2008-09," he added.http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/28603/Ubisoft_Annual_Sales_Profits_Fall_As_Assassins_Cre ed_II_Nears_9_Million.php

It doesn't matter how many games they ship. If Ubisoft doesn't become profitable very soon, they are finished. Their stocks are almost worthless now compared to 2 years ago. And it's not just Ubisoft Romania. Other devs are leaving Ubi. They know she's going down:


Assassin's Creed Director Departs Ubisoft Montreal

Ubisoft Montreal's Patrice Desilets, who played a pivotal role in the Assassin's Creed and Prince of Persia franchises, has left the company, according to an official statement.

The creative director's departure comes as Ubisoft Montreal prepares the release of Assassin's Creed: Brotherhood, the third main entry for the popular third-person action series Desilets helped build, for later this year.

Ubisoft claims the director already completed most of the work it required from him, according to a report (http://gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2010/06/11/patrice-d-233-silets-walks-away-from-ubisoft-and-assassin-s-creed.aspx) from Game Informer: "With his role on project essentially done, Patrice Desilets has decided to take a creative break from the industry and is no longer working on Assassin's Creed Brotherhood."

Although Desilets himself has not commented, it appears that he has permanently left the Ubisoft studio -- but no announcement about any new positions have been made. http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/28931/Assassins_Creed_Director_Departs_Ubisoft_Montreal. php

As I said before, I give them until next year at the latest. Whether they are swallowed up by another company or file bankruptcy, they are finished.

[Sonarman]

I knew it wouldn't be long before the Ubisoft cheerleaders showed up in this thread. You are wrong, Sonarman. As I have said before, sales and profits are two different things.


I never said they were doing well I was merely indicating that they are still afloat and have the potential to remain so. As for being a Ubisoft cheerleeder?... they really only make one game series that interests me (SH) and they have unfortunately messed that up this time out. I hope for our sake that they do give the series another chance and actually listen to what their customers are trying to tell them. But as your many figures indicate sadly the smartest thing for Yves & crew to do right now is drop Silent Hunter like a rock and put "all hands on deck" to churn out as many Assasins Creed bolt- ons & sequels as possible to return the company to profitability asap.

[Drifter]

I never said they were doing well I was merely indicating that they are still afloat and have the potential to remain so. As for being a Ubisoft cheerleeder?... they really only make one game series that interests me (SH) and they have unfortunately messed that up this time out. I hope for our sake that they do give the series another chance and actually listen to what their customers are trying to tell them. But as your many figures indicate sadly the smartest thing for Yves & crew to do right now is drop Silent Hunter like a rock and put "all hands on deck" to churn out as many Assasins Creed bolt- ons & sequels as possible to return the company to profitability asap.

Sorry. I shouldn't have called you a Ubisoft cheerleader.

I am guessing the only way that they could return to profitability would be to cut everything to the bone... downsize massively like so many other companies have done to try and stay afloat. But chances are that it's already too late for that. If and when they go under, I would guess it would be sometime in the spring or summer of 2011. They will try and hold on at least through Christmas this year.

[TteFAboB]

Now I will have to buy some Ubi stock along with some BP stock. :yeah:

Not so fast, buddy. Before you are eligible for holding Ubi stock you must guarantee the availability of a permanent internet connection to their servers, as your stock will only maintain or gain value as long as that connection exists. If it is ever disrupted your stock will be considered rogue and you a hacker. And this time there are no save games.

Funny, it takes less security to buy the shares of the company than to play one of its games... Also, the shares you can sell again, but the game is stuck to your Ubi account...

Also funny, the graphic on the original post looks a lot like my feelings over the release of SH5. The announcement catches my attention, the hype builds me up and at the top of my eagerness the game is finally released, only to turn out a massive, say, drop in value.

[Sonarman]

Makes you wonder what a gaming world without EA & Ubi would be like. Could in some ways be a much healthier thing giving lots of the smaller companies a much better standing/chance in the marketplace particularly now that the traditional retail channels for PC games are going the way of the dodo.

[Reece]

Makes you wonder what a gaming world without EA & Ubi would be like. Could in some ways be a much healthier thing giving lots of the smaller companies a much better standing/chance in the marketplace particularly now that the traditional retail channels for PC games are going the way of the dodo.I think it would be a good thing!!:up:

[Task Force]

Oah god, now they will ask their government for a bailout!:rotfl2:

[gimpy117]

I wonder if people are starting to realize that 50 bucks is too much for a game. Just a thought.

[Jimbuna]

Now I will have to buy some Ubi stock along with some BP stock. :yeah:

I'm already guilty of owning some of the latter :cry:

[krashkart]

I wonder if people are starting to realize that 50 bucks is too much for a game. Just a thought.

I don't know. About the time I hit thirty I started to realize that bills are just as expensive. That and food. Hrm.... and fuel. :o

I'm already guilty of owning some of the latter :cry:

My condolences, mate. :dead:

[Jimbuna]

I don't know. About the time I hit thirty I started to realize that bills are just as expensive. That and food. Hrm.... and fuel. :o

My condolences, mate. :dead:

I bought it quite a few years back as part of a 'balanced' fuel provider equities investment portfolio and must say that taking into consideration the dividends I have enjoyed over the years, the investment has been a sound/positive one.

Now, if I'm to be totally honest, any further sudden 10-15% overnight drops would impact on previous dividends received and yes....my ar$e is starting to twitch like a rabbits nose :doh:

[krashkart]

I bought it quite a few years back as part of a 'balanced' fuel provider equities investment portfolio and must say that taking into consideration the dividends I have enjoyed over the years, the investment has been a sound/positive one.

Now, if I'm to be totally honest, any further sudden 10-15% overnight drops would impact on previous dividends received and yes....my ar$e is starting to twitch like a rabbits nose :doh:

Yea, it was the latter half there that I was thinking about. Hope you don't see any more of those drops. :)

[Sailor Steve]

I'm already guilty of owning some of the latter :cry:
I thought where you live it was required by law...:O:

[Jimbuna]

I thought where you live it was required by law...:O:

The shares were initially released in roughly Oct 87 for £1.20ish just a few days before the stock market crashed but have been as high as £6.55 in the last 6 months and are currently around the £3.40 mark.

Many wealthy people have made unimaginable profits over that period, believe me.

I do not consider myself to be in the above category.

I adhere to one principal...never invest more than you can afford to lose.

Hence the lowly pittance I dabble with :DL

[August]

If UBISOFT comes out with something Shiney and Sparklie you'll all drop to your knees and yell " MASTER" !!!

We obey. :O: I seen to much jumping from one Bandwagon to the other to feel other wise.

You all are gonna get what you paid for. Wishes and Dreams. But... forget about what counts.

Not me. I bought SH3 before I learned about their copy protection schemes (here at SUBSIM), uninstalled it soon afterwards and never bought any subsequent SH versions out of protest.

[Weiss Pinguin]

I bought SH3 [...] uninstalled it soon afterwards
Isn't that a bannable offense here? :O:

[Tchocky]

SH3 DRM I can forgive, a badly-written and sloppy program is better than an actively repellent system like SH5.

[Sailor Steve]

Isn't that a bannable offense here? :O:
Especially since there are DRM-free versions readily available now. :sunny:

[krashkart]

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Heehee I'm just giving you a hard time, August. :D:salute:

[TLAM Strike]

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'Silent Hunter'........ That's the one with the U-Boats right? :O:

[krashkart]

'Silent Hunter'........ That's the one with the U-Boats right? :O:

Uboats?? Man, I am way behind the ball game. I'd always assumed I was in command of a team of German contractors aboard a prototype 688i. :DL

[frau kaleun]

'Silent Hunter'........ That's the one with the U-Boats right? :O:

Mine's more of a me-boat. :O:

[TLAM Strike]

Mine's more of a me-boat. :O:

ME-Boat... that explains why German lost the war...
http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/1407/winmescr00.jpg

[geetrue]

SH3 was more about you-boot than a U-boat, :woot:but seriously folks the modders never gave up and it became a classic way to at least try to be a subsim captain.

Ubisoft will not go down as long as they have the consoles covered ... too many people of the console age purchase a title without searching for the pros and cons.

I finally purchased an X-box 360, but I get tired of the scene lag not to mention the lesser graphic's vs PC machines.

I just play it when it's too hot to turn on my PC :yep:

[nikimcbee]

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Heehee I'm just giving you a hard time, August. :D:salute:

Ha! I know an even bigger subsim scandal, but I'll never tell.:D:hmmm:

[nikimcbee]

I've even got some really funny insider SH3 stories, I've told a few people but I'd never print them here.:D Ask me at the subsim shin-dig:hmmm:, I might tell you for a good laugh.

[Jimbuna]

I've even got some really funny insider SH3 stories, I've told a few people but I'd never print them here.:D Ask me at the subsim shin-dig:hmmm:, I might tell you for a good laugh.

I trust none of them involve/include me ya little bugga :hmmm:

I'm of previous good character :smug:

[krashkart]

Ha! I know an even bigger subsim scandal, but I'll never tell.:D:hmmm:


Of course you would... with proper motivation I'm sure. :D


As you can see, Mr. McBee, I have abducted your beloved dog. He is in good health - for now. *mwuha! mwhaha! mwuhahahahaha haha haaaa!*

http://images.cheezburger.com/completestore/2010/6/18/38096ca7-c48c-42d8-8a77-42bcba25b4e5.jpg

See how mortified he is? Hand over the information, or the dog gets it! :arrgh!:

[August]

Damn that Boston Terrier looks terrible. What did you do to that poor animal krashkart?

[krashkart]

Damn that Boston Terrier looks terrible. What did you do to that poor animal krashkart?

*weepy violin*
I dunno. We found him running loose on the street and.... Aw crap! :damn:


*puts on evil face*
*dramatic music*
I found it most conveen-ient to sedate the dog during the abduction. *hissssss! slitherslitherslither* :arrgh!:

[Reece]

*weepy violin*
I dunno. We found him running loose on the street and.... Aw crap! :damn:


*puts on evil face*
*dramatic music*
I found it most conveen-ient to sedate the dog during the abduction. *hissssss! slitherslitherslither* :arrgh!:

When I abducted and gave that dog to you Krashkart i didn't expect you to treat it like that!:oops: Shame!:nope:
Sorry Mcbee, the money was just too tempting! I couldn't control myself!:oops:

[krashkart]

When I abducted and gave that dog to you Krashkart i didn't expect you to treat it like that!:oops: Shame!:nope:
Sorry Mcbee, the money was just too tempting! I couldn't control myself!:oops:

Well... :hmm2: The dog fought back. I had to sedate him before he tore the other leg off of my evil supervillain costume. :roll:

[August]

*weepy violin*
I dunno. We found him running loose on the street and.... Aw crap! :damn:


*puts on evil face*
*dramatic music*
I found it most conveen-ient to sedate the dog during the abduction. *hissssss! slitherslitherslither* :arrgh!:

Yeah but did you have to change him into a bulldog too? :o

[Weiss Pinguin]

Yeah but did you have to change him into a bulldog too? :o
That's what happens when you use experimental sedatives :nope:

[Sailor Steve]

See how mortified he is? Hand over the information, or the dog gets it! :arrgh!:
Gets what? The pork chop?

You really are new to this whole 'dognapping' thing, aren't you?

The truth is that McBee doesn't know anything. If he did he would have told it all already. No self-control, you see. This is all just a ploy to try to wheedle his way back into everyone's good graces before the meet. He wants us to forget that he's on many of our 'hit' lists.
:rotfl2:

[FIREWALL]

Silent Hunter..... " WHERE'S DWAT SNEAKY WABBIT !!! "

[Weiss Pinguin]

The truth is that McBee doesn't know anything.
http://ch3guest.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/sgt_20schultz_small.jpg

I KNOW NUTZING!



also 2000th post :woot:

[Task Force]

AAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!!!! ITS SCHULTZ!!!

congrats on 2,000

[Jimbuna]

Keep on truckin http://www.psionguild.org/forums/images/smilies/wolfsmilies/thumbsup.gif

[krashkart]

Yeah but did you have to change him into a bulldog too? :o

:hmmm:
Ehm, what Weiss Pinguin said:

That's what happens when you use experimental sedatives :nope:

*shrug* The guy at the phone booth said they'd work! :timeout:


Gets what? The pork chop?

You really are new to this whole 'dognapping' thing, aren't you?

The truth is that McBee doesn't know anything. If he did he would have told it all already. No self-control, you see. This is all just a ploy to try to wheedle his way back into everyone's good graces before the meet. He wants us to forget that he's on many of our 'hit' lists.
:rotfl2:

I've no reply... :har:

[Drifter]

Well, I thought I would bump this thread with an update. Ubi shares have lost about another 15% since my last posting here 3 weeks ago. Currently around $6.59. They seem to be right on schedule for imminent demise. Unless that get gobbled up by a larger company or can get some kind of capital injection very quickly, I seriously doubt there will be a Ubisoft in existence 6-12 months from now. Their stocks have lost almost 50% of their value in only 3 months :dead: :

http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/2919/12122l.jpg

http://finance.yahoo.com/echarts?s=UEN.F+Interactive#chart1:symbol=uen.f;ra nge=3m;indicator=volume;charttype=line;crosshair=o n;ohlcvalues=0;logscale=on;source=undefined

[Drifter]

And look at this. In only about 2 years (since May 2008- $69.11), Ubi stock shares have now lost about 90% of their value. :o I think it's safe to say that there probably won't be any more Silent Hunter 5 patches, much less a Ubisoft. Crash and burn:

http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/9070/1214o.jpg

http://finance.yahoo.com/echarts? s=UEN.F+Interactive#chart2:symbol=uen.f;range=m y;indicator=volume;charttype=line;crosshair=on; ohlcvalues=0;logscale=on;source=undefined (http://finance.yahoo.com/echarts?%20%20s=UEN.F+Interactive#chart2:symbol=ue n.f;range=m%20%20y;indicator=volume;charttype=line ;crosshair=on;%20%20ohlcvalues=0;logscale=on;sourc e=undefined)

[Kapitan_Phillips]

http://i48.tinypic.com/2pzfmud.jpg

[Reece]

I see your not bothered!!
http://fascinatingly.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/horse-laugh.jpg
Neither am I!!