XIV Milk Cow in game!

[kylania]

Privateer released a test version of the XIV Milk Cow U-boat for Silent Hunter 5 tonight, a major first step to successfully importing ships. During testing I realized this big and beautiful girl needed to be filmed!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H276z6ZHUVU&hd=1

http://img809.imageshack.us/img809/9181/milkcow.jpg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H276z6ZHUVU&hd=1)

[Gato76]

Nice :D

[convoy hunter]

nice one. What type of u-boot it is?

[Aufklarer]

very impressive, with refinement (like removing the bow wave appearing through deck) this will be a great addition to SH5. Very well done!

I would very much like to see a Type VII along side for size comparrison.

[Phantom453]

Sweet!!! Great work.

Yes, a side by side comparison would be nice.

[robbo180265]

Looking really good and it's also really good news for the game.

If this can be added then I would assume that more targets can too. At that point I may just start playing again.

Awesome work - big thanks to all the modders working on the game.

[Noren]

Now thats a pregnant submarine!

Lookin sweet!!!!

[coronas]

Looking really good and it's also really good news for the game.

If this can be added then I would assume that more targets can too. At that point I may just start playing again.

Awesome work - big thanks to all the modders working on the game.


I agree. :yeah:

[Akula4745]

Wow... now this is good news!!
Excellent work gents!

[Lundo]

Very Nice. but didn't the type XIV have ordonance fore defence?
good job Both of you.:salute:

[dogboat]

v nite jod thank you all. :up::rock::|\\

[JU_88]

Side by side shots under water, im not sure why, but the Milchow appears quite blury.... one for Privateer to look at. :woot:

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll118/v11cu96/SH5Img2010-06-12_1336.jpg

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll118/v11cu96/SH5Img2010-06-12_1335.jpg

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll118/v11cu96/SH5Img2010-06-12_1334.jpg

[JU_88]

Very Nice. but didn't the type XIV have ordonance fore defence?
good job Both of you.:salute:

Yes it had a bunch of flak guns, these will be added later :), its WIP atm.

[Moeceefus]

great song for that vid :haha: we all thank the modders for stepping up and taking charge. :salute:

[swampa]

Awesome work - big thanks to all the modders working on the game.+1
Playing SH5 and something happens or not as it should , and that moment you think this game is really not :down:. The modders come along and you think and know this game will be :yeah: Nice work

[TwistedFemur]

Side by side shots under water, im not sure why, but the Milchow appears quite blury.... one for Privateer to look at. :woot:




MIP mapping problem?

[Madox58]

The Occlusion and Normal mapping is not done on this version.
It was mostly built pre-1.2 patch.

I also can rarely test the work in Game.
System is to old.
:nope:

So I posted it up for others.
There is a bit more to finish and adjust granted.
But it works!
:woot:

[Aufklarer]

At what stage is this model actually at, especially in regards to AI.

For example if added to the game will it act like a harbour where you get the option to dock and refit? or does it actually react to the enemy by diving and operate under its own patrol orders sending reports of its position to the Type VII's?

I especially like the screenshots for size compare, would love to see some on the surface! It really is a big beast, exceptional work and gives hope to the community, bravo..

[Madox58]

It does dive and avoid enemy contact.
So it does use the imperfect AI Sub scripting.
It carried no offensive torps in real life, so this one doesn't carry them.
BBW did some work on the campaign files and resupplied from it.
:rock:
So that works also.

Not sure about radio contact and all that.
There's much more important work to do first.
All the effects of current in-Game Subs needs to be finished,
the occlusion and normal mapping stuff,
and new crew for the deck.
(The old SH3 models just don't cut it in SH5)

ref, ju_88, and Icneumon did the original XIV for GWX.
So don't forget to credit them!
I've only been doing the conversion to SH5
with a few updated 3D parts thrown in.
:salute:

[kylania]

ref, ju_88, and Icneumon did the original XIV for GWX.
So don't forget to credit them!


Updated in the video's description field. :DL

[Madox58]

Thanks Mate!
:salute:

And who tagged that video as SPAM???
:stare:
Freaking looser!
:nope:

[JU_88]

Thanks Mate!
:salute:

And who tagged that video as SPAM???
:stare:
Freaking looser!
:nope:

Hey - if they are a sad wanker with no life, that is their loss not ours. :yeah:

[Madox58]

How do you flag thier post as spam?
:hmmm:

[Madox58]

I've gotten a few E-mails from people I'll not name
claiming I took thier work.

I offer this challenge!
Show us what you got or shut up!
This Unit pre-dates the 1.2 patch!
And many can verify the file dates.

I offered this test Unit up to bolster this Community!
To show that there is something more then just wasted hope out there.

I need not pull a Donuts on anyone!

So to my E-Mail Richards?
Put up or slink away like the snakes you are.
:stare:

Time to s### or get off the potty!
(I like the word potty today! :haha:)

[Capt Jack Harkness]

Side by side shots under water, im not sure why, but the Milchow appears quite blury.... one for Privateer to look at. :woot:

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll118/v11cu96/SH5Img2010-06-12_1336.jpg

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll118/v11cu96/SH5Img2010-06-12_1335.jpg

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll118/v11cu96/SH5Img2010-06-12_1334.jpg

If you look at the streams of bubbles coming off the VII's deck when submerged the streams get blurry as soon as they are no longer over the VII's "silhouette." Not sure why the game operates like this, but it appears that it makes things blurry underwater (as they should be) except for the submarines themselves, which are left clear and sharp...

[609_Avatar]

Way to go gents getting this into the game! Hope it wasn't too hard to do as I know you'll be getting a long list of ships to import now. :)

[scratch81]

Fitting song for such a big beautiful girl. love it the work privateer!

[JU_88]

I've gotten a few E-mails from people I'll not name
claiming I took thier work,

What?

I built the hull mesh,
Ichy skinned it,
Ref Imported it into a dat.
I think maybe even Von assisted with the damage model...
that was in 2006/2007 (Pre GWX 2.0)

What exactly are you supposed to have stolen? :06:

[janh]

Nice work. Congrats! That adds a crucial element to the game without which the whole West Atlantic campaign was but a joke.

Keep it up and one day I may buy the modds and download the game. Oh, ups -- wasn't that to be the other way around? Hmmh, seems quite unfair in this case...

[Alex]

I've gotten a few E-mails from people I'll not name
claiming I took thier work.

I offer this challenge!
Show us what you got or shut up!
This Unit pre-dates the 1.2 patch!
And many can verify the file dates.

I offered this test Unit up to bolster this Community!
To show that there is something more then just wasted hope out there.

I need not pull a Donuts on anyone!

So to my E-Mail Richards?
Put up or slink away like the snakes you are.
:stare:

Time to s### or get off the potty!
(I like the word potty today! :haha:)

Oh ! :huh:
This kind of posts always go the PM or email way, of course ! :88)
Improve your self-esteem guys, show your pride (do you have one ? :oops:) and dare to speak out, ******* ! :stare:

[JU_88]

Oh ! :huh:
This kind of posts always go the PM or email way, of course ! :88)
Improve your self-esteem guys, show your pride (do you have one ? :oops:) and dare to speak out, ******* ! :stare:


Well to be fair, I wouldnt automatically assume they are doing it out of spite or jealousy.
Weather their claims are jutsfied or not, really depends on what they are accusing Privateer of stealing and what they have to back up the accusation.

To be honest these kind of disputes are best handled via PM, they are normally resolves peacfully this way too. so its better they dont post publicly as that just incites a flame war (which trashes the modders thread and then everyone loses.)

[Alex]

Hmm, well, you're right mate. ;)
Sorry for putting it that way then. :-?
When I need to make a claim, I just do it knowingly at my end, and publicly when it's needed, especially when what I'm looking for is public acknowledgement. :06:

[/off-topic] :)

[thfeu58]

I've gotten a few E-mails from people I'll not name
claiming I took thier work.


Oh,
this does not sound well and fulfils me with worry.
Does this refer to the model, or to the Granny code? :hmmm:

[Madox58]

I'm working strictly with Dat files.
No GR2 files have been harmed in the conversion process.
:D

There's a thread that details everything I'm doing at Marble Cake.
A 'How-to Guide' if that's what you want to call it.
:yep:

[AVGWarhawk]

Nice work Privateer! Look promising. :up:

[Faamecanic]

I've gotten a few E-mails from people I'll not name
claiming I took thier work.

I offer this challenge!
Show us what you got or shut up!
This Unit pre-dates the 1.2 patch!
And many can verify the file dates.

I offered this test Unit up to bolster this Community!
To show that there is something more then just wasted hope out there.

I need not pull a Donuts on anyone!

So to my E-Mail Richards?
Put up or slink away like the snakes you are.
:stare:

Time to s### or get off the potty!
(I like the word potty today! :haha:)

As so the "you stole my work" starts....

As Privateer said Put UP YOUR Potty Or Get OFF your SHUT UP!!


Nice work Privateer...very encouraging :yeah:

[Madox58]

This is an example of the thread at Marble Cake
:salute:

Details about the val file and how I did it:

The val file controls the base fore and aft wakes.
Previous versions of SH used several placer Nodes in the dat.
You'll see those listed commonly as follows:
SiajF01
SiajF01_2
SiajB
SiajC
SiajF02
SiajF02_2
Those Nodes had the controllers for the wakes attached in the val.
SH5 is different only in the fact it only uses 2 of those Nodes.
SiajF01 is the forward wake,
SiajB is the rear wake.

How to determine which is which in the val file:

There are 2 FoamWave entries in the SH5 val file.
Under that is a BowWave setting.
If BowWave = 1 or True?
That's your front wave and gets assigned to the SiajF01 Node.
The other FoamWave gets assigned to the SiajB Node.
Under each FoamWave controller is a ShipWakeSH5 controller that also gets attached to the Node.
The SiajB FoamWave has 2 ShipWakeSH5 controllers.
I did a search and replace of ID's in Hex to change the proper ID's.
The val file is now converted and we have our base waves to work with.

[Aufklarer]

Im glad you know what your doing, i am slightly confused but somewhat intrigued....

[kylania]

<JerryMcGuire>You had me at SiajF01_2</JerryMcGuire>

[Madox58]

:haha:
I've been asked many times to do a Tutorial on things.
This is my way of doing one now.
It's detailed for those interested in this sort of thing.
Sooner or later,
I'll add screenshots and wrap it all in an E-book for downloading.
:)

I can also verify that Occlusions and Normals work fine.
I added some last night and did early tests.
I'm now converting the FX.GR2 stuff.

[thfeu58]

This is a great work privateer which you perform there.
I have registered myself just with Marble Cake, this interests me all very much.
Nevertheless, at first I would like to bring my present work to an end.
I see this as a foundation for the coming.
Your work is to me a big help.
:salute:

[Madox58]

You are approved Mate.
:up:
As have been others.

Marble Cakes is a wierd name.
But it is kind of like a Kitchen!
We're bakeing up some really neat stuff that is intended to
satisfy the hungry masses!
:har:

[nodlew]

Awesome. Can't wait 'till more ships can be added, especially Merchants. I'm getting to the point where I know mast, length and draft on sight with the present limited variety.

The song should have been Fat Bottom Girls by Queen. This is my opinion which means it is very likely to be a metaphysical truth. God tells me important things when I am asleep and they become my opinions.

[Madox58]

More Ships can be added.
And faster then working on the AI Sub stuff!
It takes those willing to do it!
I attack the hardest to gain further knowledge.
My aim is to provide all the info I can to make this possible.
Not for any one Mod Group, but for all that want to import Units!

Give me 10 Guys with past experience at importing Units?
I'll hand you 100 New Ships in a month!
All converted to SH5 standards!
Not half converts.

I am no slacker and refuse to do half arsed Units.
Now is the time to put up or shut up!
I invite all who do Unit conversions to join in for this effort.
What have you got to loose?

[Kromus]

Amazing work privateer! :yeah:

[Will-Rommel]

Damn i wish i had the basics to help in this work... :hmmm:

[Madox58]

You will soon see it with many more SH5 effects added.
:o
It will be a complete conversion that meets SH5 standards
when it is completed.

The Type XIV from 'GWX' is intended to be the High Water Mark.
I've seen enuff 'it can be done' threads!

This Community wants Quality Units?
You will get them!
You will Love them!
You will go to bed at nite and huge and squeeze them!
(Uh, well not really!:haha:)

But you will have what was promised by the Devs.
A highly Moddable Game!
They did deliver that!
I'm going to show you the proof.
:up:

And I am going to deliver the converted files to do even more Units!
With complete instructions on how to do it!
(I'm practicing for an Infomercial here it seems?)

[JU_88]

Privateer is right, anyone can learn if they are willing.
Hell, up until last week, I couldnt import for ****.
but with a good bit of help from privateer, and Skawaja's awesome S3d tool....

Its starting to happen -
Although these are SH4 shots, they can then be ported to SHV, long way to go though as these are ealry results with much to be adjusted.
and i still have many more Aircraft models after that.

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll118/v11cu96/SH4Img2010-06-15_0019.jpg

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll118/v11cu96/SH4Img2010-06-06_205114_062.jpg

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll118/v11cu96/SH4Img2010-06-08_2125.jpg

[Noren]

I like this spirit! Wish you the best of luck!

I can't let those pilots go unnoticed though: it must we quite windy out there. But perfect for us, the flak gunners, aiming for them would perhaps lead the bullets smack on target! :D

[JU_88]

Windy is the least of your problems when you have no legs! :)

The crews will be replaced with improved models.
the pilots are in external files from the air units themselves which is why they have not been edited yet.

I need figure out the props also, they are centred, even though i positioned the nodes in the right place - i think animation controller must be repositioned also in order for them to appear correctly.
And the glass is messed up too...
Fun Fun Fun.

[Pintea]

Side by side shots under water, im not sure why, but the Milchow appears quite blury.... one for Privateer to look at. :woot:

Great work !

That underwater blur is caused by the Depth of Field effect. If that sub was actually a .gr2 file from the SH5 pipeline, it would look OK. Haven't you found a way yet to convert .dat to .gr2 ?

[AVGWarhawk]

But you will have what was promised by the Devs.
A highly Moddable Game!
They did deliver that!
I'm going to show you the proof.



Thats the spirit Privateer! :yeah:

[mookiemookie]

Just when my opinion of SH5 was at its lowest, this thread comes along and gives me hope!

[Hartmann]

Damn i wish i had the basics to help in this work... :hmmm:

Yes , i would help too if i had the same skills :oops: but i´m light years away from Privateer and others that makes history in SH series

SHV is in a very poor state but the game is highly moddable, we only need time to know scripting language , import units...and other areas

[Aufklarer]

I have absolutely no skills as a modder and wouldnt know where to start however i intend to make it known that i would like to help. I will offer my service to the following areas to all modders:

1 - Official spellchecker
2 - Water boy
3 - Beer can collector guy

Pm me if u need any help in these areas.

Regards Auf

[oscar19681]

this is good news!

[thfeu58]

Everybody is able to modden! :D

It starts with interest!
Or with the annoyance about a faulty Game!
Or to adapt the interface to his wishes and needs with the wish!
With small steps, as well as we run everything, read, write, learnt to count!

SH5 concerning, it is not perfect, the predecessors were not also!
But which perspective on future do we have?

Here certainly I miss many ...... many confessed, good Modder!
Even if I would be alone, I would not rest, until the Game corresponds to my images!
Nevertheless, together it is easier!

And here what I sees and reads makes me glad!
The learning if I do it!
Learning from privateer and the GWX team!
I owe you! :yeah:

[urfisch]

seems, as if something great is going to come. private...is it also possible, to get the sh4 crew management back?

[Rolf Eschke]

That are Amazing News !
Thanks so much,
Regards
Rolf

[Madox58]

Great work !

That underwater blur is caused by the Depth of Field effect. If that sub was actually a .gr2 file from the SH5 pipeline, it would look OK. Haven't you found a way yet to convert .dat to .gr2 ?


Shuting off the DepthBlurEffect clears the image up if one wants a better
view of it.

I'm getting all the effects of standard Subs in place before I worry much
about that.
All the effects controlled by the FX.GR2 and.fx file are being converted
now.

Only way to do a .GR2 file is with the granny exporter.
I don't wish to be sued right now.

[renthewog]

So is the milk cows subs available for download or is it work in progress?

[Seminole]

With a Type XIV about to arrive can a Type II be far behind?

[Admiral Von Gerlach]

Wonderful to see. I am looking forward very much to the Milch Cow being possible.

The last operational Supply U Boat was commanded by a relative and I have been hoping to see them operable in one of the SH series...

U-490 Oblt. Wilhelm Gerlach,

there were 10 of them...
U-459 She went out on 6 patrols starting in March, 1942 and during her career she supported 72 U-boats. U-460 From June 1942 to October 1943 she went out on 6 patrols supporting 86 U-boats.
U-461 This boat supported 75 U-boats during 6 patrols from June, 1942. U-462 She supported 64 U-boats in 5 patrols starting in July 1942.
U-463 This boat supported 74 U-boats in 5 patrols from July 1942. U-464 She was sunk on her maiden patrol and supported no U-boats.
U-487 During her 2 patrols she supported 25 U-boats. U-488 in her 3 patrols 41 U-boats were supported by her.
U-489 She was sunk on her maiden patrol and aided no U-boats. U-490 Sent out on her first patrol to assist the Monsun boats in May 1944 she was sunk a month later.


http://www.uboat.net/types/milkcows.htm

U-459 She went out on 6 patrols starting in March, 1942 and during her career she supported 72 U-boats.U-460 From June 1942 to October 1943 she went out on 6 patrols supporting 86 U-boats.U-461 This boat supported 75 U-boats during 6 patrols from June, 1942.U-462 She supported 64 U-boats in 5 patrols starting in July 1942.U-463 This boat supported 74 U-boats in 5 patrols from July 1942.U-464 She was sunk on her maiden patrol and supported no U-boats.U-487 During her 2 patrols she supported 25 U-boats.U-488 in her 3 patrols 41 U-boats were supported by her.U-489 She was sunk on her maiden patrol and aided no U-boats.U-490 Sent out on her first patrol to assist the Monsun boats in May 1944 she was sunk a month later.



The Milk Cows were quite big, I have a book with a picture of both a Milk Cow and a VIIC next to each other (both returning from patrol), the upper deck of the empty Milk Cow is nearly as high as the VIIC´s coning tower.

Just to compare the facts: the total displacement of a VIIC was 1070 tons (total) and of the Milk Cow 2300 tons (total).

[ERPP8]

But does the resupply work?

[Madox58]

The test version can be downloaded.
(Click on my Sig to find where)
It's an ongoing WIP and comes with a Test Mission.
There's also updates as I add more effects and adjust things.
It's an AI Sub, not a Player Sub.

BBW did get it to work as a Re-supply Unit but his work has not been released anywhere yet.

And he's Pineing for the fjords for the Summer.
:DL

[ERPP8]

Could I get a link without singing up to that sight?

[Madox58]

No.
I am the Admin there,
it's an area I opened for anyone who wishes to join,
and it's where I post anything I'm doing.
And answer questions when asked.
It's free, you don't need to post anything if you don't want to,
and it's harmless.

If that's not enuff?
Sorry, but that's how I roll.
:D

[ERPP8]

No.
I am the Admin there,
it's an area I opened for anyone who wishes to join,
and it's where I post anything I'm doing.
And answer questions when asked.
It's free, you don't need to post anything if you don't want to,
and it's harmless.

If that's not enuff?
Sorry, but that's how I roll.
:D
I'm fine with signing up. I just prefer to not if I really don't.
I originally sighed up to subsim just to download something, but I knew I would use it more.

Will the final version be open to download?

[Madox58]

Of course it will!

The whole thing started between BBW, JU_88, and I.
We started playing around in our areas.
BBW with the Campaign stuff,
JU with modeling,
Me with converting things.
The AI Subs caught my attention because of conversations with Dan
back at Neal's house at SubSim Meet 2008.
BBW started the campaign stuff,
JU started working to import stuff he did,
I started the conversion work.
This was before patch 1.2 came out.

We are where we are today.
BBW is takeing time off to enjoy the Summer,
JU is cracking on many things,
and I'm still working on what I can to help others.

You'll miss alot if you don't sign up.
It's becomeing a book of frustration followed by breath takeing insights!
:haha:

Many people wanted to know how I work.
Here's where they can see my multi-tasking mind at work.
:o

[Admiral Von Gerlach]

Thanks for all you do Privateer. Much appreciated.

[commandosolo2009]

great vid. let put some boats on it and she'll run in no time..

[tonschk]

Looking really good and it's also really good news for the game.

Awesome work - big thanks to all the modders working on the game.

I Agree :yeah: , thank you :rock:

.

[urfisch]

updates on that topic?

[DavyJonesFootlocker]

It beats sailing back to base to refit.:)

[JamesKirk]

any update ???

[kurfürst]

this looks great! A real "Milchkuh" in the game!

[kurfürst]

Hi Privateer,

great work! Unfortunately the Youtube video is not available in Germany for whatever reason. Is there any other chance to see and download your work?

Beste Grüsse and Gutes Gelingen,
Kurfürst:salute:

[ERPP8]

Hi Privateer,

great work! Unfortunately the Youtube video is not available in Germany for whatever reason. Is there any other chance to see and download your work?

Beste Grüsse and Gutes Gelingen,
Kurfürst:salute:
There are ways to give yourself an American proxy and view American sites

[kurfürst]

so tell me how...:06:

[ERPP8]

so tell me how...:06:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zR-0VplNENE
It's made for Hulu, but it should apply for any site

[kurfürst]

I´ll give it a try.
Thanks for the link!

Kurfürst:salute:

[Madox58]

The video linked to my sig has nothing to do with the Type XIV.
As for any future work on it?
I can not test things in Game as my system is to old, and being
a NoteBook, I can't upgrade it.
So it sits there until I can afford a new system.
As does a dozen other projects.
:nope:

You can still DL the files here:
http://www.mediafire.com/?efegodmffym

They are the old .dat format and not JSGME ready.
The GR2 format files have not been released due to system problems.