Battle of Coral Sea

[Armistead]

Thought I would try Coral Sea. I usually ambush them near San Cristobal, but out of range and chased them seemingly forever. They were making 20 kts. They finally made the turn south, coming faster at 27kts. The escorts somehow saw or heard me over 10 nms away and came at me fast, which was fine, I was in decent position. I dived flank and by the time they got there I was gone leaving them far behind out of the way for a perfect shot on the first carrier. You can see the escorts searching where I had dived long ago...out of the way.

http://i651.photobucket.com/albums/uu235/Armistead1424/SH4Img2010-05-30_215626_046.jpg

All four sterns slammed home sinking him, so trying to set up on the next carrier coming.

http://i651.photobucket.com/albums/uu235/Armistead1424/SH4Img2010-05-30_215905_906.jpg

He zigged towards me.. Now this was going to be a serious aob and bearing, but I let them go just in time. From the bow they had to turn all allowed, bearing was terrible, almost 80, just enough to allow a bow shot, but two hit.

If you can look you can see my sub almost in front of him as the torps gryo around.

http://i651.photobucket.com/albums/uu235/Armistead1424/SH4Img2010-05-30_220321_859.jpg

http://i651.photobucket.com/albums/uu235/Armistead1424/SH4Img2010-05-30_220344_453.jpg

Two hit, second torp, by this time I'm passed him going flank, but how many times do you get a torp hit when you're in front of the carrier.:D

http://i651.photobucket.com/albums/uu235/Armistead1424/SH4Img2010-05-30_220420_656.jpg

He still making good speed as he list sideways.
http://i651.photobucket.com/albums/uu235/Armistead1424/SH4Img2010-05-30_221542_250.jpg

FInally sinks.
http://i651.photobucket.com/albums/uu235/Armistead1424/SH4Img2010-05-30_221728_921.jpg

I then went looking for the Moresby invasion group, large convoy, found a small TF first, sank the large minelayer.
http://i651.photobucket.com/albums/uu235/Armistead1424/SH4Img2010-05-30_223620_859.jpg

Heading back to Brisbane with only a few torps but need fuel found the Moresby invasion force. Here is where it is if your interested, May 9
http://i651.photobucket.com/albums/uu235/Armistead1424/SH4Img2010-05-31_001528_718.jpg

Here are the paths the groups take. The JP TF at Coral Sea to the right. They come in just below San Cristobal heading WNW, then turn south.
To the left the invasion force as it was heading north to Rabaul.
http://i651.photobucket.com/albums/uu235/Armistead1424/SH4Img2010-05-31_003128_640.jpg

[Armistead]

Exact positions..

http://i651.photobucket.com/albums/uu235/Armistead1424/SH4Img2010-05-31_002316_156.jpg

[clayp]

Hey dude what year and date is that? But I dint know how to do all that plotting etc..I havent seen one big battle since I started playing this game...:down:

[Armistead]

Look on the last SS that shows ships sunk, shows date and location on the coords like 159.59E x 9.34 S on May 9...just be there the 8th to set up, they should come right by you using RSRD.

You can let them go and keep on tracking and eventually US planes will attack when they get more south. They basically take the same path home.

[clayp]

Look on the last SS that shows ships sunk, shows date and location on the coords like 159.59E x 9.34 S on May 9...just be there the 8th to set up, they should come right by you using RSRD.

You can let them go and keep on tracking and eventually US planes will attack when they get more south. They basically take the same path home.

I'm really embrassed to say that I dont know how to find the cords and do all of that plotting.:oops:..Can you set the date for starting a cmpaign?..I've been trying to learn how to do all this stuff,just not having much luck....:oops:..Too dumb I guess...

I went and started a new campaign and its starting on June 11 1942....:( no coral sea for me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[magic452]

To find the coordinates I'll use the screen shots Armistead has posted.

Look on the clipboard and the first ship sunk is a Shokaku carrier.
Sunk at Long. 157° 58' E. Lat 9° 34' S.
That's 157 degrees 58 minutes. East Longitude. There are 60 minutes in a degree so that is almost 158° E. Look at the top of the map in the last SS.
The numbers across the top are degrees Longitude, find 158 and draw a line down the map. Next we have 9° 34' S lat. That is 9 degrees 34 minutes Latitude. 34 minutes is about a half a degree so fine the mid point between 9 and 10 ° on the right side of the map and draw a line across the map where the two lines cross are the coordinates for the sinking.

You can see the red ship sunk icon there just above the E in Solomon Sea.

Zero Degrees Latitude is the equator and the number goes up from there north and south. The poles are 180° north or south. He is just below the equator so the lat. is South 9 and a half degrees.

All the Xs on the map he put there to plot the course of the ships. He put an x every so many minutes, looks like once an hour or something like that.

Magic

[clayp]

Well that explains it a bit bud but I cant get there on the date...:damn:

[Chubster]

Start a new career....earlier and from Manilla :yeah:

[Armistead]

The x's, yes tracking, it was going as fast as I could and I didn't have radar, so I stay out of visual range most the time. Still, you can see yourself even if your men can't. so I would mark the carrier.

I almost goofed, it turned day and a few planes drove me down, but thankfully they turned hard south. I almost missed the turn.

I almost lobbed some DG shells at them at night to slow them down, but last time I tried that the carriers kept going fast why the DD's came searching.

[clayp]

Start a new career....earlier and from Manilla :yeah:


How do you get it to start earlier???

[BillBam]

How do you get it to start earlier???

Here Ya go!

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/downloads.php?do=file&id=1877

[clayp]

Here Ya go!

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/downloads.php?do=file&id=1877


Thank you.It says it is set to start in Nov 1941 so I have to run around in circles until May 1942?....Everything I want to do is so much darn trouble...:damn:

[Chubster]

Just start a new career at the beginning....Dec 7th i think...from Manilla. There is plenty to keep you occupied till Coral Sea.

Choose either the Sargo or Salmon and go see my contact at the ordinance depot, he will load you out with MK10's....just tell him I sent ya :DL

Start your mission and ignore where they send you for now....we are going on a recon of our own :03:

Find Vigan on the map, west side of Luzon. Zoom down till the black range bar reads 21.0nm. Enable tool helper and with your ruler put the start point on the dot for Vigan, draw a line 9nm long going West, (as you come out you will see the line go through 270 on the tool helper)

At the western end of this line draw another one going directly North 6750yds. Now set some waypoints so that your sub ends up at the top of the 6750 line facing NE.

All stop. Save.

Stay on the surface and use TC...say 512.....eventually you will get a contact. As soon as you do, dive below thermal layer (click on the depth gauge as we do no want the engines to come on), rig for silent running. Engines off.

Now just wait till the lead destroyers pass you by (Free cam too watch f12 if your using TMO)....as long as you are not moving and a re rigged for silent running they should not notice you. You should then see a line of 5 ships, the second one is a troop carrier....Come to periscope depth and take your pick

You may have to do a tiny bit of manoeuvring once you see them but that should get you close enough to sink a few...They head off in that direction and then loop back later.

That should keep you occupied for a while.

And if you get bored of that we can send you over to Camranh Bay....lots of fun over there

And then a bit later....Jan / Feb, there is loads to do in the Java Sea area on way to Coral sea...

See you there :up:

[clayp]

I havent the foggist how to do this...
Find Vigan on the map, west side of Luzon. Zoom down till the black range bar reads 21.0nm. Enable tool helper and with your ruler put the start point on the dot for Vigan, draw a line 9nm long going West, (as you come out you will see the line go through 270 on the tool helper)

At the western end of this line draw another one going directly North 6750yds. Now set some waypoints so that your sub ends up at the top of the 6750 line facing NE.
I'll try to figure something out..I want to use my Gato..2 deck guns,2 AAA guns and 40 torps......:hmmm:

[Armistead]

Not sure where he is sending you, long and lat would be easier. He may be sending you after the Lingayen gulf..think that's how it's spelled...invasion force, if you head N out of Manila you'll run into it or just sit in the gulf.

I use TMO RSRD, you do have the option with TMO to start in April, that gets you almost there, but really the Coral Sea JP TF isn't that big. However, if you're looking at all the action there, if you plan it right you can have all you want. You can go for the Shoho invasion force, then battle of Coral Sea, then hit the Port Moresby invasion force, each the day after the other.

Here is how I sort of do my battles.

Starting out of Manila I attack one of the Phillippines invasion forces, you can sit in Lingayen Gulf or go more north to Aparri where one lands. The one with all the Chitose carriers is lil north of the San Bern at 124.40E by
12.50 North. Just leave base and get there at normal speed to any and wait, they'll show up. Get time, dock or refit at Manila before it falls. When you lose Manila, you'll head to Surabaya. TMO RSRD gives you another base to refit on the way at Balicpapan, but it will fall soon. Beware, a large DD TF is usually in the area and a smaller invasion force


I then dock at Surabaya, usually early Feb, so don't wonder off. I usually go Balikpapan to attack that and hurry back to Surabaya about Feb 15 and refit. Then get ready for the large Java invasion force that shows up around Feb 27/28, but I attack it about 50 nm's NNW of Semarang. If you hurry up and attack it flank back to Sura to refit...not dock or you'll miss out. Careful, there is a rather large TF that you have to beat to Sura full of DD's and CA's and you'll usually run into them. A large allied TF will also be in the area and they'll bang heads with the Japs just north of Sura, but you can slip in. If you don't refit in time, well, do as you will.

Then head to Merak, look to the harbor right of the Merak label 106.10E by 6.0S, another very large invasion force.

Base will have been gone now so Fremantle is home

If you have torps left after the Merak attack, the Christmas Island invasion force will be coming through the Sundra Straits at Merak. I usually sit at the south end by March 6. It has many Kuma's and large Tankers, many small liners...

then it's Fremantle with a big score....

Then I prepare for the Solomons Campaign, these are the best battles.

Shoho invasion force
Battle of Coral
Attack the Port Moresby force
Lae invasion force
Battle of GC
Battle of Savo
Battle of Santa Cruz...biggy

[clayp]

What year am I starting out in 41 or 42?

[G2B]

What year am I starting out in 41 or 42?


41 :up:

[G2B]

Find Vigan on the map, west side of Luzon. Zoom down till the black range bar reads 21.0nm. Enable tool helper and with your ruler put the start point on the dot for Vigan, draw a line 9nm long going West, (as you come out you will see the line go through 270 on the tool helper)



rig for silent running. Engines off.

Now just wait till the lead destroyers pass you by (Free cam too watch f12 if your using TMO)....as long as you are not moving and a re rigged for silent running they should not notice you. You should then see a line of 5 ships, the second one is a troop carrier....Come to periscope depth and take your pick

You may have to do a tiny bit of manoeuvring once you see them but that should get you close enough to sink a few...They head off in that direction and then loop back later.




Just tangled with this one, found them coming straight at me in the middle of the night. Dove, rigged for silent running and waited, doggone subchaser was passing me to the port and must have detected me cause it changed course and started towards me. I managed to get the transport before having to duck below the thermal. Man did it rain D.C.'s we managed to slip away to the north but still had 2 chasers looking for us, sneaky sob's came up to pd cause it was nice and quite with chasers heading south, one chaser was sitting quiet 230 yards off the starboard bow. Had to sneek back down and creep away for a bit longer till he finally gave up :nope:

[clayp]

Ok guys have started a new campaign out of Pearl on Dec 02 1941...Will actualy start tomorrow eyes are tired....:woot:

[magic452]

Clay do not start in Pearl. You want to start in Manila Dec. 8 1941.
All the action everybody is talking about is near there.

Head north out of Manila and go to the Lingayen Gulf. Just park in front of the gulf about a half mile and a convoy will come to you. Get one or two ships there and than head more north stay about half a mile off the coast and you will come across another convoy.

Magic

[clayp]

I cant get my Gato at Manila...Cant I go there from Pearl?...Cant even put a AAA gun on the Sargo....:down:

[magic452]

Well you can leave from Pearl but you won't get there for what I was talking about but there are plenty of other battles and invasion fleets in that region very soon after.

If I'm not mistaken what you want is to find something to shoot at and if possible to find some big action like invasion fleets. The place to do that is near Java and the Philippines. Check out this site, it list all the battles of WWII, when and were.

Pacific War Maps | Nihon Kaigun (http://www.combinedfleet.com/battles)
Check out the Java Campaign, Java Navel Battles, these happen in Feb 42

Magic

[clayp]

Thanks dude...:yeah:..Dont you ever sleep or are you like me...:haha:

[clayp]

Well its Dec 11th 1941 and I'm sitting by Manila.....:hmmm:

[magic452]

Clay move north to the mouth of the Lingayen gulf and wait there about 2 or 3 miles outside it, a convoy will come from the north into the gulf.
It will get there on the night of the 11th.

Thanks dude...:yeah:..Dont you ever sleep or are you like me...:haha:

Sleep what's that, we don't have time to sleep, there is a war on you know. :yeah: :haha:

Magic

[clayp]

Clay move north to the mouth of the Lingayen gulf and wait there about 2 or 3 miles outside it, a convoy will come from the north into the gulf.
It will get there on the night of the 11th.

Thanks dude...:yeah:..Dont you ever sleep or are you like me...:haha:

Sleep what's that, we don't have time to sleep, there is a war on you know. :yeah: :haha:

Magic

YES SIR!!!!! uh where exactly is the gulf?....:oops:

I went back to the game and now it says its the 16th!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[magic452]

Let's start all over again with a new career out of Manila Dec. 1941.
Pull out of the port and just head north.
http://i621.photobucket.com/albums/tt296/Magic452/Luzon.jpg

Follow the lines I've drawn up to the Gulf.

http://i621.photobucket.com/albums/tt296/Magic452/LingayenGulf.jpg

Go to the place I've marked with the X. About the A or Y in Lingayen Gulf.
On the night of Dec. 11 '41 a convoy will show up about there. They will come from the north and will pull into the Gulf and park there for some time, you want to get them before they get into the Gulf.

Magic

[clayp]

I'll leave you alone,think I'm getting on your nerves...Thanks for all the help....:yeah:

[G2B]

I'll leave you alone,think I'm getting on your nerves...

That's my Job :har:

Clayp I think I can honestly say everyone here is more than willing to help you with Anything you need. Please never think you are getting on anyone's nerve's :up:

[magic452]

I'll second that, more than happy to help Clay. You are one of my favorite people here and I want to see you enjoy the game.
I've got the time and nerves of steel, well tin foil as least.

Magic

[Chubster]

And...if you scroll the map up a bit further up you will see Vigan...follow the instructions in my previous post (I assume you know how to use ruler and tool helper - if not shout)

This will put you smack in line with another convoy....just sit and wait.

[Mauser KAR98K]

Keep close after tangling with the first Task Force in Lingayen Gulf. Go due east and run a zig zag pattern north, covering a a 20 to 30 KN radius...you should run in to two of these...

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1091/4600810048_46fa265ac3.jpg


About the Convoy you will be chasing in the Gulf, if you stalk them from the rear, they should stop about 10 KN from shore. Water is deep, so take your time and pop up on the middle of them.

[PapaWulf]

I realize this is an old thread, but I am new to this game and need some clarification. I intend to take out the Port Moresby force, and my understanding from this thread is that the task forces do not quite follow the same historical courses, and approaches; is that correct?

I have TMO with patch 1.4.

Thanks!

[Crannogman]

I think RSRDC makes them more historical

[PapaWulf]

Tried getting RSRD to work, but it caused my game to crash for some reason right as it loads a new campaign.

I guess I will need to patrol the archipelago east of Port Moresby between May 1-9, and hope I get lucky.

[merc4ulfate]

If your running the correct version of TMO with the correct version of RSRD and have started a new career not continued an old then it will work properly.



Generic Mod Enabler - v2.6.0.157

1_TriggerMaru_Overhaul_2-5
1_TMO_25_small_patch
RSRDC_TMO_V502
RSRDC_V5xx_Patch1
Improved Ship Physics 2.6_TMO_RSRDC
TMO_Visuals_for_RSRDC
Fixed_CD_sonar_RSRDC
Classe_Balao_CamoTri
Pacific Sound Mod
Nav Map Make-Over v2.1
NMMO Airbase Add-on
NMMO v2.1 Patch 1 with AB
NMMO Maps Add-on
NMMO Pre Pearl Harbor Career Start Add-on
NMMO Reverse Ocean Colors Add-on
Less Plankton 1.2

[PapaWulf]

If your running the correct version of TMO with the correct version of RSRD and have started a new career not continued an old then it will work properly.



Generic Mod Enabler - v2.6.0.157

1_TriggerMaru_Overhaul_2-5
1_TMO_25_small_patch
RSRDC_TMO_V502
RSRDC_V5xx_Patch1
Improved Ship Physics 2.6_TMO_RSRDC
TMO_Visuals_for_RSRDC
Fixed_CD_sonar_RSRDC
Classe_Balao_CamoTri
Pacific Sound Mod
Nav Map Make-Over v2.1
NMMO Airbase Add-on
NMMO v2.1 Patch 1 with AB
NMMO Maps Add-on
NMMO Pre Pearl Harbor Career Start Add-on
NMMO Reverse Ocean Colors Add-on
Less Plankton 1.2

Alrighty then, seems I have some work to do lol.

[merc4ulfate]

There are several version of TMO and RSRD. You have to make sure you run the correct versions that work together and make sure your mod order is set up correctly or errors will occur.

[Armistead]

Ah, I remember that old battle from years ago, since the group was going fast, the best I could do was stay on the left flank that night and they had a 1kt speed advantage. I didn't think I would get a shot, but they turned south towards me. I knew the Port Moresby group returned towards Rabaul, so I hauled butt there after I sunk the carriers and caught them returning at night.

Usually the best place to ambush the Coral TF is to sit about 20nms south of San Cristobal as they come around it. All the locations can be easily found on the sinking SS if u use RSRD.

If you want to really have fun with RSRD, the Solomons campaign you can see some great action and battles. You really want to do the Battle of Savo. Fun watching a large Jap TF coming in around Savo to take on the waiting allied TF. The Japs will wipe this force out, but if you get your attack in before they come around Savo and sink one of the BB's and damage the other, then haul butt and reload you can join the battle as the TF duke it out. If you help enough, can you turn the tide of battle for the allies....? Fun to do.

These are good battle animations and all are in RSRD. You certainly want to be in the Solomons to see action May through about Dec. The animations show the battles in detail.

http://historyanimated.com/verynewhistorywaranimated/?page_id=20

[merc4ulfate]

I've hit that San Cristobal TF myself. It is fun to find those.

[Armistead]

yea, i was sitting there once waiting for the jap tf and sank a us carrier. i knew the japs came through there, but forgot the us carriers basically did the day before and stormy weather got the best set up i could and let go all 10 at the group....saw the explosions and was like yippie, then when it sank got the message....was like, oops....the fun of no cams or contacts..

[Sandman_28054]

I left Pearl April 10, 1942 headed down to the Coral Sea, thought maybe I could get in on the action. SSW at 10 knts.

Missed it all. Couldn't find squat. Cruised the whole area looking. Even went to wikipedia to get precise routes, and still missed it.

Back to Pearl.

Reloaded mission, went to recon Osaka.

Took damage from bunkers, but managed to stay underwater.

Took pictures, and proceeded back out.

Around area 6c, back to 10 knts, along the 29th degree mark. Up to 178.18E. 23.35N. Waited a toal of 5 days for Midway task force.

Sank 4 Fubuki DD's, 2 Kongo BB's, 1 Yamato class BB. (cuties helped a bunch) 1 Chitose Seaplane tender, 1 Hiro escort carrier. Total: 141632 tons.

[Armistead]

what mods u using, u can't miss it if you use the coords in my SS if u use RSRD....

[Admiral Halsey]

Haven't gone after the Coral Sea ships yet. Personally I like hanging around Savo island during fall and winter.

[Armistead]

Think the first battle around Savo is early August and they go on through Nov when it becomes intense. Before that, gets a lil boring, but some large action takes place in Oct.

Still, earlier on several large jap convoys land troops on Guadalcanal and if you wait, you can catch them sitting still unloading.... Heck, even some US PT boats get in the action with RSRD...

http://combinedfleet.com/battles/Solomon_Islands_Campaign

[merc4ulfate]

I've never seen the Yamato run below 14 knots. Cuties could never catch up. Must be an easy set up because it normally takes 8 fish to kill the Yamato.

The most I have ever got when hitting the Yamato was a Light Cruisers with her. One at the Cruiser and nine at the Yamato. Then you have to dive or be killed unless you have like a 5 second reload time.

Try that same mission with these:

Generic Mod Enabler - v2.6.0.157
[Z:\Silent-Hunter4\MODS]
1_TriggerMaru_Overhaul_2-5
1_TMO_25_small_patch
RSRDC_TMO_V502
RSRDC_V5xx_Patch1
Improved Ship Physics 2.6_TMO_RSRDC
TMO_Visuals_for_RSRDC
Fixed_CD_sonar_RSRDC
Classe_Balao_CamoTri
Pacific Sound Mod
Nav Map Make-Over v2.1
NMMO Airbase Add-on
NMMO v2.1 Patch 1 with AB
NMMO Maps Add-on
NMMO Pre Pearl Harbor Career Start Add-on
NMMO Reverse Ocean Colors Add-on
Less Plankton 1.2

[Sandman_28054]

what mods u using, u can't miss it if you use the coords in my SS if u use RSRD....

TMO 2.0

[ssjtoma]

niiice!!! Will be looking for this engagement as well as Savo Island and Guadalcanal! Hopefully get in on some of the good action that the fly boys got!

[Admiral Halsey]

Think the first battle around Savo is early August and they go on through Nov when it becomes intense. Before that, gets a lil boring, but some large action takes place in Oct.

A little boring yes but I find its fun to attack the destroyers coming down the slot most of the time for a nice challenge. Also you ever watch the 1st and 2nd naval battles of Guadalcanal? RSRDC really did a good job of getting them right.

[chrysanthos]

alright call me stupid but why they arent any german single missions for surface battles?

[TorpX]

alright call me stupid but why they arent any german single missions for surface battles?

You mean like with the Bismark, or Graf Spee?

[Raider M]

[QUOTE=TorpX;2283994] You mean like with the Bismark, or Graf Spee?

I have to admit I've been curious about this for a long time. In the Downloads section, under SH4, under Ships, are playable ships such as PT-109 and the pocket battleship Graf Spee. Just how playable are they? Can you maneuver around, firing torpedoes and firing guns? Taking the Graf Spee on a South Atlantic commerce raiding cruise would be pretty cool. Thanks for any info on this.