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Wulfmann
05-31-10, 08:26 AM
Just thought I would do a check in and see if UBI was even considering a SH5 that does not require being online yet.

My game PC is not online so it is a not possible to consider SH5 until they release such a version.

I was hoping after the usual bigger sales period of the first few month they might want to tap into the market that will not or can not do online hook up to give them money/income/profit!!

Wulfmann

McBeck
05-31-10, 08:37 AM
When they dont want it to take up space on their servers, they might release a patch to remove the on-line requirement

GoldenRivet
05-31-10, 10:55 AM
When they dont want it to take up space on their servers, they might release a patch to remove the on-line requirement

perhaps

but as for the time being... it doesnt look promising, and in fact they plan to implement this type of DRM onto pretty much all of their future titles.

Letum
05-31-10, 11:02 AM
If Ubi have lost interest in SH5 enough to take the servers down; they will
have long passed the point at which they would put any effort into a offline patch.

bazjak
05-31-10, 11:30 AM
I work away two weeks at a time and the signal for my dongle is crap which means i cant play the game when i,m away.
Also downloaded from steam WoP over two weeks ago and cant even get that to play.
My feeling about DRM,s is that it is driving everbody into the hands of the consols,maybe that is what they want.
Baz [UK]

Brag
05-31-10, 12:58 PM
Ubi is just encouraging pirates! :nope:

klh
05-31-10, 03:32 PM
When they dont want it to take up space on their servers, they might release a patch to remove the on-line requirement

That's probably when I'll buy it (along with a new PC to run it).

Madox58
05-31-10, 03:54 PM
Ubi, in the license agreement,
stated a no online patch would be released if the servers were stopped.

If they fail to do so?
A Class Action Lawsuit would be filed in the USA.

Lawyers are hungry Mothers for this type thing!

So I'd tend to believe that patch is already standing by.
Infact?
The game was created without DRM!
Then DRM was added to the Game.
Much like Star Force was not a part of the original SH3.
It was an addition.

Right now is not a good time for Foriegn Companies to screw the American Public!

BP has brought this situation to light for even Joe Bob Billy.
And there is a movement going on.
You play by new rules that we,
the people demand,
or we take away your toys!

Heads will roll at the next election and things will change!
I'd tend to think even Obama is worried at this point!

Then for him to NOT be at the Tomb of the Unknowns today!
:nope:

That in itself says all I need to know of him.
And what I need to know of all that supprted that action.

Nordmann
05-31-10, 04:40 PM
Probably around the same time NASA pulls off an manned mission to Mars.

Madox58
05-31-10, 05:00 PM
NASA can not send a manned mission there.
The Nazi's will shoot them down!
:har:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KEueJnsu80

JU_88
05-31-10, 05:23 PM
When they dont want it to take up space on their servers, they might release a patch to remove the on-line requirement

I doubt this will happen any time soon. The game is only 3 months old

Nordmann
05-31-10, 05:32 PM
NASA can not send a manned mission there.
The Nazi's will shoot them down!
:har:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KEueJnsu80

Heh, they should stay put, no point invading this dump. :haha:

Webster
06-02-10, 03:13 PM
Ubi, in the license agreement,
stated a no online patch would be released if the servers were stopped.

If they fail to do so?
A Class Action Lawsuit would be filed in the USA.

Lawyers are hungry Mothers for this type thing!


if i recall correctly the way that it was worded means that it was not a legally binding obligation but rather just a promise they made to reassure customers and as such are not compelled by law to fullfill their promise in any legal way.

Brag
06-02-10, 03:37 PM
I doubt this will happen any time soon. The game is only 3 months old

At 3 months it is already a flop in the PC games market. The DRM issue is a primary reason for this, but they also screwed up by releasing an unfinished product. A fatal marketing cocktail.

Ducimus
06-02-10, 03:43 PM
Any chance fo UBi doing a no-online version of SH5?

When this happens first:
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/55/113830985_09f377146d.jpg

robbo180265
06-02-10, 03:45 PM
When this happens first:
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/55/113830985_09f377146d.jpg

:har:

Shoe
06-02-10, 06:55 PM
If they want increase sales they will change.

Fincuan
06-02-10, 07:20 PM
When this happens first:
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/55/113830985_09f377146d.jpg

That one kind of lost its kick up here when Finland won the Eurovision song contest. The Finnish participants suck(as does everyone else, we just excel at it somehow) as a rule of thumb so a win one of those "not gonna happen until hell freezes over" sort of things, and well.. uh... it happened in 2006 :D

Zedi
06-03-10, 02:35 AM
At 3 months it is already a flop in the PC games market. The DRM issue is a primary reason for this...

Stop pointing at DRM as a fail argument for SH5. AC2 it also has DRM requirement and is still in top of the most popular games. This DRM ranting is so damn boring :nope:

John W. Hamm
06-03-10, 05:16 AM
Stop pointing at DRM as a fail argument for SH5. AC2 it also has DRM requirement and is still in top of the most popular games. This DRM ranting is so damn boring :nope:


If I am not mistaken AC2 was not only more popular than SH5... (Due to conforming to a more broad audience but also b/c it was more polished and at least more finished than Sh5) those things considered... and all things being equal DRM did in fact kill SH5... so put that in your pipe and smoke it!

Reece
06-03-10, 05:51 AM
Originally Posted by Brag http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/smartdark/viewpost.gif (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?p=1409811#post1409811)
At 3 months it is already a flop in the PC games market. The DRM issue is a primary reason for this...


Stop pointing at DRM as a fail argument for SH5. AC2 it also has DRM requirement and is still in top of the most popular games. This DRM ranting is so damn boring :nope:
Yes keep pointing to the online DRM making SH5 a fail!!:nope:
When you don't have a good enough connection to play the game online it is a BIG deal!!:-?:x
I hope after sales drop off they will release a DRM free version like they did with SH3 & 4, then others including me can buy it and play it!!:yep:

janh
06-03-10, 06:00 AM
Stop pointing at DRM as a fail argument for SH5. AC2 it also has DRM requirement and is still in top of the most popular games. This DRM ranting is so damn boring :nope:

Don't forget that Assassin's Creed II has also console versions, which sold very well since autumn 2009 and generated millions of sales, hence a major fraction of the published total sales. No one of us know how many copies of each platform version of AC II were really sold, and whether ACII for PC did truly remarkably, or just else. SHV did not have a console version on the market well ahead of time. Nor did Siedler VII, at least to my knowledge. Ubisoft is very hesistant of admitting accurate sales numbers for each product, though it would be extremely interesting to see a detailed listing of all its products, by platform and by month since say September 2009. That would tell more.

However, there is indirect evidence that PC sales and total sales went down quite dramatically from Ubisoft Corporate Q4 sales report, which you can get from the PDF of the 2009-2010 report. The fact that this console game "Dance" or so with 3 mio copies was the workhorse in Q4 2009 doesn't speak well for the other releases.

Wulfmann
06-03-10, 08:34 AM
I would buy SH5 if they release it without DRM but my game PC is not and will not be online so it is irrelevant how bad or good the connection is.

If UBI does not want my business that is their decision.

I am aware like all SH versions 5 is incomplete but I am also aware of the fine mod work fellow sub simmers can and will do so one day when UBI releases a DRM free SH5 I will buy it and the longer they wait the cheaper it will be and when I play it then the mod improvements will make for a better initial experience at less money.

I can wait, it will be just as new the first time I play it no matter what day that is.

I can also live without it and I have to wonder how much money from people like me UBI wants to live without.
Their call.

Wulfmann