Another funky idea.

[maillemaker]

OK, so everyone poo-pooed my idea of floatable radio transmitters to lure away bad guys, or allow a radio transmission to be sent out after the sub left the area.

But last night, after having escorts shooting at my exposed periscope, I had another fun though.

What if the sub carried a bunch of external, weighted buoys that stuck out of the water looking like....a periscope!?

Being pursued by escorts? No problem. Don't drop a noisemaker, drop a periscope buoy!

I can just see the escorts and merchants having fits as there are twenty or so periscopes bobbing in the seas all around them! :)

Steve

[Brag]

You are swimming in the area of speculative fiction. Add propellers to your flotascopes. :|\\

[gordonmull]

Add propellers to your flotascopes. :|\\
Might as well go the whole hog and throw in a few eels as well...

Come to think of it, a whole bunch of mini-subs all in the tubes of the mother sub! :arrgh!:

[Diopos]

Ejectable trained kanikaze seals loaded with explosives....

(BTW I dont mean Navy Seals :)).


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[Lord_magerius]

Too easy to deter the seals though, DD's would drop fish as decoys or have giant clubs fitted to the keel, goodbye Mr seal. :O:

[gordonmull]

Ejectable trained kanikaze seals loaded with explosives.....

Puts me in mind of the German anti-tank dog experiment that ended so comically badly!

[maillemaker]

heheheh I just think it's amusing the thought of twenty periscopes appearing floating around in the midst of confused ships. :)

Steve

[Wreford-Brown]

How about a floating noisemaker with a periscope on top? Now that'll really mess with those DD crews heads.

[Sailor Steve]

heheheh I just think it's amusing the thought of twenty periscopes appearing floating around in the midst of confused ships. :)

Steve
When HMS Bulwark blew up in harbor during WW1, almost certainly from faulty powder, several witnesses came forward during the investigation and swore they had seen periscopes inside Plymouth harbour!

Later, during the battle of Jutland, at least two British attacks were aborted because someone "saw" a periscope.

Trust me, you don't need dummies. There are plenty of them out there already.

[maillemaker]

If the mere THOUGHT of periscopes incites that kind of panic, what an even better reason to have real decoys then! :)

Especially if you could somehow make them go up and down.... :)

Steve

[timmy41]

If the mere THOUGHT of periscopes incites that kind of panic, what an even better reason to have real decoys then! :)

Especially if you could somehow make them go up and down.... :)

Steve

the noisemakers already have to balance their own buoyancy by the rate of their release, otherwise they would float to the surface or sink down. so im sure it would be possible to have some type of device on it to change its buoyancy in a pattern, it could be powered by the gas escaping itself, or some type of potential energy device like a wound up torque spring.

[bigboywooly]

Puts me in mind of the German anti-tank dog experiment that ended so comically badly!

Wasnt that the Russians :hmmm:
Trained the dogs to find food under T34s so would explode underneath
When they let them loose in battle against the Germans they turned tail and ran under the T34s as thats what they had been trained on

:rotfl2:

[Jimbuna]

LOL, very true :DL

Just as sick as training dolphins though....if the rumours had turned out to be true :hmmm:

http://www.trivia-library.com/a/the-navy-and-kamikaze-dolphins-part-1.htm

[Wreford-Brown]

The truth is almost as strange as fiction:
http://www.spawar.navy.mil/sandiego/technology/mammals/

[Jimbuna]

Yeah but unless I'm missing something aren't those dolphins only trained to detect and/or mark the location of mines?

[Wreford-Brown]

Yes - mines and enemy saboteurs diving in naval harbours.
If you believe the conspiracy theorists they are also armed with toxic darts to put the saboteurs to sleep so they would then float to the surface, and a number of them escaped when hurricane Katrina hit the US coast:http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2005/sep/25/usa.theobserver

At least we now know who was on the grassy knoll...

[gordonmull]

Wasnt that the Russians :hmmm:
Trained the dogs to find food under T34s so would explode underneath
When they let them loose in battle against the Germans they turned tail and ran under the T34s as thats what they had been trained on

:rotfl2:
I could have sworn it was the other way round but I could so very easily be wrong! Whatever side it was I rate it as the most amusing military c**k up I've ever read about. :rotfl2:

Come to think about it we should really have a thread about that. I'd love to see what little gems of stupidity folks have found out. Sure there's the usual XXI boat going down in a flurry of toilet paper but i bet there's a few absolute beauties that many of us haven't heard. Could call it The Adventures of Bernard...

[Jimbuna]

Yes - mines and enemy saboteurs diving in naval harbours.
If you believe the conspiracy theorists they are also armed with toxic darts to put the saboteurs to sleep so they would then float to the surface, and a number of them escaped when hurricane Katrina hit the US coast:http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2005/sep/25/usa.theobserver

At least we now know who was on the grassy knoll...

LOL....they never cease to amaze me :DL

[Wreford-Brown]

I think they're listening to us. This was in the UK newspapers today:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1279532/U-S-Navy-Seal-No-sea-lion-took-minute-LEG-CUFFED-pretend-saboteur.html

[Jankowski]

they have this for a reason..........

http://world.guns.ru/assault/as95-e.htm

[Jimbuna]

I think they're listening to us. This was in the UK newspapers today:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1279532/U-S-Navy-Seal-No-sea-lion-took-minute-LEG-CUFFED-pretend-saboteur.html

Well spotted that man :yeah:

[nemchenk]

The Anti-Tank Dogs were not a complete disaster:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-tank_dog#Deployment_by_the_Soviet_Union for example...

[Jimbuna]

Not according to the dogs version of the story :DL

[danzig70]

OK, so everyone poo-pooed my idea of floatable radio transmitters to lure away bad guys, or allow a radio transmission to be sent out after the sub left the area.

But last night, after having escorts shooting at my exposed periscope, I had another fun though.

What if the sub carried a bunch of external, weighted buoys that stuck out of the water looking like....a periscope!?

Being pursued by escorts? No problem. Don't drop a noisemaker, drop a periscope buoy!

I can just see the escorts and merchants having fits as there are twenty or so periscopes bobbing in the seas all around them! :)

Steve


Reminds me of the "cry baby" on the show Firefly.

[Wreford-Brown]

Not according to the dogs version of the story :DL

:har: