My Turn For CTD

[Sailor Steve]

I had to start my campaign over - yet again. It loads and starts just fine, but when I'm almost out of Wilhelmshave I get this:

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a325/SailorSteve/Silent%20Hunter%20Screenshots/Image1.jpg

Any ideas?

[schlechter pfennig]

I had to start my campaign over - yet again. It loads and starts just fine, but when I'm almost out of Wilhelmshave I get this:

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a325/SailorSteve/Silent%20Hunter%20Screenshots/Image1.jpg

Any ideas?

That doesn't look like the standard CTD I get when I get them. That almost looks like you have a RAM problem. is this a sudden error? Have you changed any hardware or software? Has anything changed since the last time you were able to successfully run SHIII?

[Sailor Steve]

I've been swapping mods out and testing using the Navigation Training course. I haven't played a career in about three days, and haven't started one over (i.e. driven out of the harbor, where this happened) in about a week.

[schlechter pfennig]

It sounds as if you might have a DEP (Data Execution Prevention) problem.

[Sailor Steve]

And what's that when it's at home?:doh:

[schlechter pfennig]

And what's that when it's at home?:doh:

This is straight from Microsoft:

"Data Execution Prevention (DEP) helps prevent damage from viruses and other security threats that attack by running (executing) malicious code from memory locations that only Windows and other programs should use. This type of threat causes damage by taking over one or more memory locations in use by a program. Then it spreads and harms other programs, files, and even your e-mail contacts.
Unlike a firewall or antivirus program, DEP does not help prevent harmful programs from being installed on your computer. Instead, it monitors your programs to determine if they use system memory safely. To do this, DEP software works alone or with compatible microprocessors to mark some memory locations as "non-executable". If a program tries to run code—malicious or not—from a protected location, DEP closes the program and notifies you."

Try this (which is again from Microsoft):

You must be logged on as an administrator or a member of the Administrators group in order to complete this procedure. If your computer is connected to a network, network policy settings might also prevent you from completing this procedure.

To open System Properties, click Start, click Control Panel, and then double-click System.
Click the Advanced tab and, under Performance, click Settings.
Click the Data Execution Prevention tab.
In the Turn on DEP for all programs and services except those I select list, do one of the following:

To turn off DEP for a program, select the check box next to the program name and click OK. (If the name of the program doesn't appear in the list, click Add, navigate to your Program Files folder, select the program's executable file which will have an .exe file extension, and click OK). – or –
To turn on DEP for a program, clear the check box next to the program name, and then click OK.

I hope this helps. If not, I'll do more research.

[Sailor Steve]

Interesting! I'll check that out now!:sunny:

[edit] It's already set for 'essential Windows programs and services only.'

[schlechter pfennig]

Interesting! I'll check that out now!:sunny:

[edit] It's already set for 'essential Windows programs and services only.'

Select the Turn on DEP for all programs and services except those I select radio button. The click add, navigate to the folder that has SHIII.exe and click on that file to add it, then once it's added click the checkbox to turn DEP off for SHIII.

[Sailor Steve]

Okay, I did all that. It wants me to restart for it to take effect, and it's late and I need to get to bed. I'll report on how it goes tomorrow.:yawn:

[conus00]

That doesn't look like the standard CTD I get when I get them. That almost looks like you have a RAM problem. is this a sudden error? Have you changed any hardware or software? Has anything changed since the last time you were able to successfully run SHIII?

I tend to agree. You should try to download MemTest and give it a shot. In my case it has already found bad memory stick in the past.
You can PM if you'd like and I will email it to you (it's tiny 24 Kb file).

[Sailor Steve]

I downloaded MemTest and ran it for two hours. It found no errors. I'm about to try the game again and see if schlechter pfennig's suggestion worked.

[Sailor Steve]

Okay, none of that worked. It just happened again.:-?

[Jimbuna]

Steve, your answer lies somewhere in those links I reckon.

I'd also suggest you type the full error message into a Google search and see what comes up.

http://www.geekstogo.com/forum/memory-could-not-written-t4911.html

http://www.pcreview.co.uk/forums/thread-1791192.php

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/The_instruction_at_0x0404415b_referenced_memory_at _0x00000000_the_memory_could_not_be_written

Good luck mate http://www.psionguild.org/forums/images/smilies/wolfsmilies/thumbsup.gif

[Sailor Steve]

Thanks for the suggestion, Jim. What my search turned up was a variety of different problems, all with the same 'instruction' but all with different locations for the referenced memory. Most of them related to the internet connections, and the rest were for problems unrelated to mine except for the same 'memory instruction' address.

Several of the people trying to help suggested uninstalling and reinstalling whatever program was affected. I really don't want to do that, since I have so many mods installed currently and don't want to start over again.

I'm going to kill that career and see if that helps. If not, I guess a reinstall is the next step.

[Sailor Steve]

Okay, I dumped that career and created a new one. So far it seems to work. I did suffer a crash, but it was a normal one which I think was caused by me going through the lock too slow and getting caught at the very stern. There was no report of damage, but the lock gates hit my stern and backed up and did it again about three times, then it went black and crashed. Too much for my graphics card I think, especially since it does that when I run the GWX special damage mod and a ship blows up.

So I think I'm okay. I'll try it again later tonight.

[Jimbuna]

Best of British matey http://www.psionguild.org/forums/images/smilies/wolfsmilies/thumbsup.gif

[JScones]

Thanks for the suggestion, Jim. What my search turned up was a variety of different problems, all with the same 'instruction' but all with different locations for the referenced memory. Most of them related to the internet connections, ...
Are you sure you have a permanent connection to the

Oh wait, wrong game.

Seriously though, it seems that perhaps your current installation of SH3 is pushing your computer to the extreme. It was, after all, not the most optimised game ever to be released. ;)

[HW3]

I was getting that error until I put the Ram switch in, then all was fine again.

[Jimbuna]

I'm nearly sure Steve has put his machine specs up before but would like to be reminded to be sure.

The machine I'm running GWX3.0 on is pretty low end by todays standards:

3.2Ghz Athlon
2GB RAM
7800GS series nVidia

[Sailor Steve]

Pentium 4 3 Gig
2 GB RAM

Nvidia 6200 256MB

[Jimbuna]

I'm just comparing your specs with those recommended by Ubi on the game box because as you know GWX was designed to work under the same specs.

'1.4GHz or faster, 512MB, 64MB minimum card'

Your well above everything so there isn't a specs problem here.

Possibly a memory stick starting to act up?

Crikey, the possibilities are endless.

I spent between ond and two hours yesterday performing a complete new installation with over 70 mods....I know you want to avoid that if possible, so how about disabling the mods, running the game and if that looks fine, enable a few at a time?

There is a faint possibility all the additional mods may have tipped your system over the edge.

PITA mate I know but that is all I can suggest :-?

[Sailor Steve]

As I said, I dumped that career and started it over. So far so good. I did disable FM's Interiors, but for a different reason. I can't see how that could have caused the problem, but I can't see a lot of things.

[les green01]

hope it stays good for you steve and go out and put some on the bottom:up:

[schlechter pfennig]

As I said, I dumped that career and started it over. So far so good. I did disable FM's Interiors, but for a different reason. I can't see how that could have caused the problem, but I can't see a lot of things.

I'd be curious if that did the trick. Now that I recall, last month I'd been getting constant CTDs during loading. FM interiors were one of the mods I disabled and haven't had a CTD since.

[Canovaro]

The error could be anything I'm afraid. :down:

[Sailor Steve]

Well, I started to run Sandra the diagnostic system, and they had a new update (still free) and it's wonderful. It lets you look at every single detail of your PC. Sandra told me that my memory card was over three years old and I should look into new drivers. So I downloaded the latest driver for the 6200, and it seems to have stopped the stuttering I always go through when the game first loads up. It also advised me to up the refresh rate. Why, I don't know, but who am I to argue; so I did.

Will it help? I'll find out tonight.:sunny:

Oh, and Sandra: You can buy it, but the free version suits all my needs.
http://www.sisoftware.co.uk/

[Jimbuna]

Here's hoping...fingers crossed :sunny:

Not like you to take notice of a woman :O:

[PappyCain]

I had the same issue. Turned out to be indexing sucking up system resources. If you still have the issue I would recommend shutting it down as you don't need it constantly updating in the background.

:salute:

[Sailor Steve]

Well, it did it again. Same message. I guess I'll shut off FMI again. Too bad, as I like the mod. Report back later.

[Sailor Steve]

That seems to have fixed it. I removed FM's New Interiors, and this time I made it out of Wilhelmshaven without a hitch. Got out to the North Sea and saved.

I'm bummed because I really like that mod, but if my computer can't handle it, I guess I'll do without for awhile.

[Jimbuna]

That seems to have fixed it. I removed FM's New Interiors, and this time I made it out of Wilhelmshaven without a hitch. Got out to the North Sea and saved.

I'm bummed because I really like that mod, but if my computer can't handle it, I guess I'll do without for awhile.

Archive it until you upgrade the pooter matey http://www.psionguild.org/forums/images/smilies/wolfsmilies/thumbsup.gif

[Captain Nemo]

That seems to have fixed it. I removed FM's New Interiors, and this time I made it out of Wilhelmshaven without a hitch. Got out to the North Sea and saved.

I'm bummed because I really like that mod, but if my computer can't handle it, I guess I'll do without for awhile.

Is that the FM Interiors with the engine room etc? Using this mod I was OK out of Wilhelmshaven but had CTD's out of some French ports. I disabled it and all is OK again. I use FM's open hatch mod which is like a cut down version of the big one and that seems to work OK. Unless you use the ram switch (I don't as it can affect other software) I think the new interiors mod will cause a CTD at some stage during the game, unless you have a super computer, which is a shame as it is a great mod.

Nemo

[Sailor Steve]

Archive it until you upgrade the pooter matey http://www.psionguild.org/forums/images/smilies/wolfsmilies/thumbsup.gif
Not gonna happen to this old AGP rig. I need a whole new one to get myself into the modern age.

And thanks for the advice and help everybody!:salute: