Refueling..???

[cptroyce]

OK..here comes the noobiest question of the day...

I am on patrol, Philippines, 121 E/11N, and I just realized that my fuel is 33/100. I'm gussing I need to refuel.

How do I determine a base to refuel at?
Would I have to go back to Freemantle(don't think I can make that)?
Have I over extended my patrol reach and time and now am past a point of return?

Help!

Royce

[Diopos]

You can refit and refuel ay any base.



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[cptroyce]

You can refit and refuel ay any base.



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You mean any Allied Base? With an Anchor icon? Surely not any base in the area..they are all Japanese held. :06:


Royce

[Jan Kyster]

How cool wouldn't that be if you could sneak into an enemy harbour and steal some diesel? :rock:

Unfortunately SH IV doesn't support that... :shifty: so yes, look for an anchor. :D

[cptroyce]

How cool wouldn't that be if you could sneak into an enemy harbour and steal some diesel? :rock:

Unfortunately SH IV doesn't support that... :shifty: so yes, look for an anchor. :D

I don't think I'll make it back to Aussie on 1/3 remaining fuel..I suppose I need to think more about speed and patrol time usage next career.

Regards,
Royce

[tomoose]

Cptroyce;
yes, fuel is something you definitely have to keep an eye on. If you run out of fuel there is no option for a tow or rescue.

For what it's worth my standard rule is once I reach the 50% fuel mark during a mission then I have to start thinking about;
a. where I am (current mission task),
b. where I'm going (next mission task), and
c. do I have enough fuel to continue and then head back.

Of course, any action during all of the above will cut into your estimates but fortunately you do have the "range at current speed" calculation button which helps a lot.:salute:

[Admiral8Q]

TMO fixed the fuel problem, otherwise I find in stock you have to move around at 1/3 or 2/3 to conserve fuel. I complained about that in these forums also:03:

I don't know if there is a stand alone fix, maybe someone else knows...

[cptroyce]

[QUOTE=tomoose;1395399]Cptroyce;
yes, fuel is something you definitely have to keep an eye on. If you run out of fuel there is no option for a tow or rescue.
For what it's worth my standard rule is once I reach the 50% fuel mark during a mission then I have to start thinking about;....

Tomoose - thanks for that info..Since I'm new, I didn't give fuel a second thought until I received the low fuel icon warning. Now I'll need to refrain from sailing around at "Full" and wasting resources wandering around the Celebes Sea.

However when one is out of Freemantle and on patrol around the Philippines there is alot of sea to traverse...just to get to your patrol point. Most fuel is used, just getting "on station". How do you more experienced SH'ers handle this type of mission??




..but fortunately you do have the "range at current speed" calculation button which helps a lot.:salute:
Uhh..where is that? (hides head asking) :cool:

[Admiral8Q]

However when one is out of Freemantle and on patrol around the Philippines there is alot of sea to traverse...just to get to your patrol point. Most fuel is used, just getting "on station". How do you more experienced SH'ers handle this type of mission??

Uh, that was what I was trying to explain. You'll need to go 1/3 to 2/3 pretty well the whole time until you get a contact to chase. ;) That would mean the whole way t the Philippines from Freemantle, and on the way back too. That's one of the reasons I started looking for a mod. Now I can run at standard the majority of the time and even sprint to Midway on full speed sometimes (If I still have lots of fuel after a quick patrol), then refuel and sprint to Pearl Harbor.

[les green01]

1/2 speed 1/4 at 33% of fuel you might make it make sure your battery is charge and click off the charge button

[cptroyce]

Thanks guys..

Admiral8Q
>> Uh, that was what I was trying to explain.<<

Got it now :yeah:


les green01
Nice to read that sig quote..not enough people still understand that today; this forum probably excepted!

Regards,
Royce

[Diopos]

Do your traveling at ~ 9 kts. On the surface.

Submerge to attack or survive. Moving submerged is fuel intensive. Avoid it when possible.

If you've sustained any form of damage, follow closely the recharghing of your batteries. It is possible that they wont recharge 100%. In such a case stop auto recharging. Recharhing batteries costs diesel.

Yes most of your fuel will be spent to reach your mission objective and return to base. If you allocate 10-20% of your fuel for reserve/contingency purposes you'll find that the actual availability of fuel for combat/patrol purposes maybe lower than 20%. Not unrealistic mind you. Fleet boats would routinely travel 30-40 days to and back from their patrol stations where they remained for less than a week. The Pacific is a BIG pond!:DL

As the war progresses and more "forward" bases are established fuel becomes a lesser concern but always remember nobody if going to tug you home if you run dry!


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[les green01]

Audie Murphy has special meaning to me as a old friend serve with him and i spent many hours helping him with stuff and working for him and he would tell me the stories

[tomoose]

Cptroyce;
I forget which row of buttons it's in but look for the icon which shows a stopwatch symbol and a <----> symbol which is "time to end of course" next to it is the "range at current speed" button (and for the life of me I can't remember what the graphic is, LOL).

This is in TMO BTW I can't remember if it was available in stock.

[les green01]

Cptroyce;
I forget which row of buttons it's in but look for the icon which shows a stopwatch symbol and a <----> symbol which is "time to end of course" next to it is the "range at current speed" button (and for the life of me I can't remember what the graphic is, LOL).

This is in TMO BTW I can't remember if it was available in stock.
it is available in stock

[Bilge_Rat]

you should be able to make it back to australia on one-third speed from PI on 33% fuel.

[cptroyce]

Thanks gents for all that info..

>> you should be able to make it back to australia on one-third speed from PI on 33% fuel. <<

Actually, that's right...I ran out of fuel just about 50-60 nm out from Freemantle. However, on the return try to Australia, I submerged from a contact around Indonesia, and then started for port again...except I forgot to surface and ran for some distance at P depth..burning up unnecessary reserves. Had I not made that "bonehead" move, I would have made it back to port on the 33% remaining fuel.

Love this sim btw..lots of depth to it..no pun intended.


Royce

[les green01]

just keep playing and you will become better and a vetern at it:yeah:

[Diopos]

It is not a game, it is a character builder.


:DL


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[thor headsplitter]

It's in the nav map section.:arrgh!:

[rein1705]

The most frustrating thing ever was when i ran out of fuel not 20mn from Pearl.... :oops:

[Admiral8Q]

The most frustrating thing ever was when i ran out of fuel not 20mn from Pearl.... :oops:
What direction were you coming from? If it was from the west then you should have stopped and refueled at Midway. :)

[rein1705]

they sent me down south near truck and i ended up over around the Philippines doing some extra patrols

[Harmsway!]

I just refueled at Darwin. What an interesting port. Decided to spend a day there the boys were getting the jitters. Oh the women :yeah:

[raymond6751]

I have been in your situation. What you need to do is run submerged until the batteries are 40-50% and then surface only long enough to recharge. You do that charge at 2/3 speed to conserve fuel.

It is slow, but all the while using batteries is extending your range.

When you are free of likely enemy encounters, you can run the batteries down to 10-20% before refuelling. Also, slow speed underwater to extend battery life.

It is slow but survival is the goal.

[Harmsway!]

That might work in the sim but it aught not. The diesel engines is what charges the batteries. This should only use more fuel if anything. I don't know if SH4 simulates this properly though.

[rein1705]

In real life i think they'd shut everything down and run on only one diesel, one screw and just chug home. Conserving everything they could but u cant do that in the sim i don't think. Would be neet if u could order something like that.

[Admiral8Q]

In real life i think they'd shut everything down and run on only one diesel, one screw and just chug home. Conserving everything they could but u cant do that in the sim i don't think. Would be neet if u could order something like that.
That was one thing I really liked about Destroyer Commander. Not so much for conserving fuel but for maneuvering. You could control each propeler separately in the engine room.

[Diopos]

I thought that they had removed the "battery recharging from thin air" bug. On the other hand Ubisoft knows better. Fleet boats obviously had solar panels :DL.




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[Admiral8Q]

I thought that they had removed the "battery recharging from thin air" bug. On the other hand Ubisoft knows better. Fleet boats obviously had solar panels :DL..

Rrrrrriiiiggghhht! :haha:

[rein1705]

lol thats funny. I remember that in destroyer cmnd. that game was fun! wish there was a modern one like it