Muhammed cartoonist attacked in Sweden

[Happy Times]

Violent immigrants attack cartoonist Lars Vilks
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVT-bpX5nMs


Artist Lars Vilks attacked by muslims at Uppsala university, police are forced to clear the building
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wewLqjWSVZ8

[Torvald Von Mansee]

Too bad Europe is going to be bred back to the Dark Ages by these religious loons. I'd rather have our overbreeding religious loons than yours.

[Happy Times]

Too bad Europe is going to be bred back to the Dark Ages by these religious loons. I'd rather have our overbreeding religious loons than yours.

Some Viking spirit would actually be good for the Swedes..

[CCIP]

Well, the police did a pretty good job, considering...

I think it's clear which side I'm on in all this - but then, when you have a bunch of people in muslim dress in a room and run a file that says something like "allah gaybar" and have googly-eyed half-naked mohammed floating around the screen... you know it's gonna turn ugly. Brave of him to go ahead? Perhaps. But also moderately stupid in those circumstances.

In the end, both sides flipped each other off and got a small bit of what they wanted. One got to look like a great hero by flaunting a half-naked mohammed in public, the others got to pretend to be great heroes by headbutting a middle-aged guy trying to read a lecture. Both, IMHO, are jackasses. One is an intellectual jackass, the other side are stupid violent jackasses. The latter are obviously a bigger social problem, however you slice it. All there's to that.

[DarkFish]

I think it's clear which side I'm on in all this - but then, when you have a bunch of people in muslim dress in a room and run a file that says something like "allah gaybar" and have googly-eyed half-naked mohammed floating around the screen... you know it's gonna turn ugly. Brave of him to go ahead? Perhaps. But also moderately stupid in those circumstances.Well if they don't like what he has to say, they don't have to listen to him, do they?
Anyway, IMO religion never ever justifies violence. If someone calls Odin (or any other Ás for that matter) a dog, am I gonna attack that person? No. Why does it have to be so different when there are muslims involved?

Some Viking spirit would actually be good for the Swedes..Heilir Vikingar!:DL
http://i525.photobucket.com/albums/cc333/DF_3852/heilirasir.gif:rock:

[Penguin]

This is disgusting, threats against the opposition, storming halls, beating down people who have their own opinion - we had this bs 70 years ago where I live, mostly from a not so friendly dress-up-club called SA.

The thing which worries me most are not the actual acts/threats from these people, but the "scissors in the head" which they cause - which means that artists/journalists/writers censor themselfes even before they do something to pee others off.

Hell, if you give in to any group of lunatics, someday people will be cut down because they talk bad about trees - just because someone worships them - a concept which I think is more rational than the belief in a god :03: - no offence to people who believe in something.
Religion should always be on a personal level, never influence a society!

[Schroeder]

Religion should always be on a personal level, never influence a society!
Unfortunately influencing the society and gaining power is exactly what religion is used for.
To immigrants living here I say:
Our house, our rules! If you don't like them go home!

[Dowly]

Idiots. :shifty:

[Skybird]

Hysteria and supremacism at work again. Well, it's about Muhammedanism, so what else to expect. Nothing new on the culture clash front.

Can we get not even once in a life - just for a change! - rioting Buddhists, African healers brandmarking modern medicine, or Vietnamese gangs demanding constitutional rules being changed to comply with Vietnam? Must we always pay attention to this primitive hysteria of Muhameddanism? :yawn:

[Penguin]

Unfortunately influencing the society and gaining power is exactly what religion is used for.
To immigrants living here I say:
Our house, our rules! If you don't like them go home!
true about religion.
Never been a fan of "love it or leave it" - if you live here, and contribute to society you have the right to participate, including the right to criticize. However if you want to abolish the constitution or take away our freedom you deserve a bullet in the head.

When I find a decent job there, I would love to emigrate to Sweden, guess they could need some immigrants there who respect their culture. Though I will never worship a king I promise I won't headbutt him... :shucks:

[AngusJS]

When will these fools grow up?

And their constant crowing of "Allahu akbar" is just showing that Allah is definitely not akbar. If he was, his followers wouldn't have to intimidate anyone who disagrees with the religion - they could just leave it to Allah to smite the critics.

[HunterICX]

To immigrants living here I say:
Our house, our rules! If you don't like them go home!

Exactly.

HunterICX

[Rilder]

When will these fools grow up?

And their constant crowing of "Allahu akbar" is just showing that Allah is definitely not akbar. If he was, his followers wouldn't have to intimidate anyone who disagrees with the religion - they could just leave it to Allah to smite the critics.

Admiral Allahu Ackbar! :rotfl2:

[AVGWarhawk]

Unfortunately influencing the society and gaining power is exactly what religion is used for.
To immigrants living here I say:
Our house, our rules! If you don't like them go home!

But what about PC and not offending? :hmmm:

[Schroeder]

PC can kiss my arm.;)

[gimpy117]

It's a pity that Islam has such a violent undertone in its culture. :nope:

I think the main problem with Islam is that they are stuck in a 12 century mind set where all blasphemers deserve death, and Unfortunately In today's modern world things are so interconnected that these intolerant ideas are outdated. Most other religions in the world either never had these Ideas or have moved on to a more peaceful and accepting ideology. I still wonder when Islam Will move on as a religion and realize that what they are doing is childish and outdated. Because frankly...nobody else goes about trying to kill people who depict your deity in some manner or another anymore, and its sort of putting the rest of the world off...

[Snestorm]

I think the main problem with Islam is that they are stuck in a 12 century mind set where all blasphemers deserve death, and Unfortunately In today's modern world things are so interconnected that these intolerant ideas are outdated.

Intolerence is never outdated. It is the tolerent who become outdated.
If the swedes themselves don't become intolerent they will become subjucated, and eventualy extinct, by their own hand.

[Happy Times]

Funny video.:haha:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kUPpqc-2bI

[Skybird]

If the swedes themselves don't become intolerent they will become subjucated, and eventualy extinct, by their own hand.
Not just the Swedes, but all Western culture. It wouldn't be the first cultural sphere that got almost or completely destroyed by Islam.

Tolerance is for the strong, not for the weak. You can only be tolerant, if you are in the stronger position. It means the strong does not use his strength to dominate the other and to enforce his will onto him. The weak, the defending, cannot tolerate the stronger doing to him what he wants, but must suffer what the strong one wants to do to him, the weak. The weak has no choice. If you have no choice, you do not choose between what you accept to tolerate and what not. You are not in a position to make such a choice - the choice is not available to you.

That's why it makes me laughing when I hear demands that the West must be more tolerant towards islam. The West is under siege, and it is giving ground, small step by small step it falls back, and Islam is on the offensive.

Save me from more Western tolerance. It is nothing else but accepting victimhood and choosing to stay weak - and hdiing that weakness behind the label "tolerance". The truth is that we are not tolerant - we are just weak.

Strength means to have the choice between options. The weaker somebody is, the less options he has, the less choice he has. For becomign strong, you must find ways to increase the number of options available to you - that is what strength is: having the choice between options. Weakness is no moral virtue. It just is - weakness. Morality and virtue comes from strength - and having a strong sense of responsibility when deciding whether or not to use that strength, and for what purpose. Weakness and moral virtue - are almost mutually exclusive to each other.

[Happy Times]

I still think we are just naive and too PC.
Actually probably because we know our strength, if we would unleash all the power we have there wouldnt be a Muslim alive.

[mookiemookie]

However if you want to abolish the constitution or take away our freedom you deserve a bullet in the head.

Indeed. If your religion is incompatible with the concept of free and open speech, then the problem does not lie with the concept of free and open speech.

[OneToughHerring]

Indeed. If your religion is incompatible with the concept of free and open speech, then the problem does not lie with the concept of free and open speech.

And what is free speech is decided by...who?

[Happy Times]

And what is free speech is decided by...who?

Huh..