View Full Version : Dick O Kane style attack for UBoats
Chubster
05-07-10, 02:02 PM
Been having a look and cant seem to find if there is a similar way to attack when in a uboat.
Has anyone got or know of any training vids etc ?
Rockin Robbins
05-08-10, 09:05 AM
Well actually you can do the same Dick O'Kane attack in a U-Boat. Approach from right angles to the target track, calculate the AoB for the shoot angle and enter that into the TDC. You have to keep the TDC and the periscope unlocked from each other or every time you move the scope you'll ruin the solution! Enter the target speed and the standard 1100 or 1500 yard range and proceed as if you were in a fleet boat. Works great! And it was the very first kind of attack I did in a U-Boat because I didn't know any better.
However, in a U-Boat you have the option of upping the ante and making an attack where you don't have to wait for the target to cross the shoot bearing. You can actually shoot any time you want subject to the maximum range of the torpedo! This is Wazoo's Fast-90 technique. This will take advantage of the U-Boat's ability to link the TDC with the periscope (American boats could do this in real life but not in the game).
Start the same approach at 90º to the target track. Now point the scope at the zero bearing and go to the TDC. Enter 90º as the AoB and press the button to link the periscope to the TDC. Then enter the target speed and take a wild guess at the range (it cancels out so it doesn't matter much). Now as you point the scope at the target you can watch the TDC adjust the AoB to compensate. This calculates a new lead angle so that not matter when you shoot, as long as the crosshairs are on the part of the target you want to hit, the torpedo will hit!
That's the short course. If you want the entire story, which gets quite complicated (unnecessarily so to my way of thinking) here it is: http://www.paulwasserman.net/SHIII/
Chubster
05-11-10, 03:11 PM
Cheers RR......it was your vids that helped me send several thousand tons to the bottom and also got my first sonar only after watching another of your vids.
Off to check this one out. Many thanks Cpn
Chubster
05-11-10, 03:17 PM
That's the short course. If you want the entire story, which gets quite complicated (unnecessarily so to my way of thinking) here it is: http://www.paulwasserman.net/SHIII/
:o......thinks we need a infamous RR training vid. Without the music though please :O::DL
Rockin Robbins
05-12-10, 08:43 AM
It's been awhile since I've made a video. I may just do that!
BillBam
05-12-10, 06:19 PM
as Oliver Twist once said "MORE PLEZE!"
R.R.'s videos are awesome, with or without music. I attribute a lot of my success in the game to his explanations of manual targeting.
The John P. Cromwell attack works just as well.
The added option of easily shooting "backwards" (stern, MOT, bow) with AOB automatically recomputed is REALLY nice if you think the situation merits it.
Chubster
05-13-10, 06:13 PM
So thats three hands up for a Rockin Rob Uboat Vid.... so what ya doing tonight RR :03::D
Rockin Robbins
05-13-10, 06:25 PM
OK! OK! OK! OUCH!!!!! Quit twisting my arm! :03:
I'll get on it. Maybe not tonight but I'll kick out a video without too-loud music in the next 7 days. I look forward to getting in the old U-Boat again anyway!:up:
Capt. Morgan
05-13-10, 08:44 PM
I'd say that not only is the Fast-90 attack possible in a U-Boat, it's also better suited to it.
With the German targeting computer, the bearing and AOB are corrected and updated automatically as you rotate the scope, so once you're in firing position, you can shoot at multiple targets accurately without having to re-enter data into the TDC.
OK! OK! OK! OUCH!!!!! Quit twisting my arm! :03: I'll get on it. ...
I'm looking forward to a new vid. I'll bet there are many of us here who first tried manual targeting because your videos made it look so easy (even after a really good Mai-Tai), and have never looked back.
As to the music, Kraftwerk does a really good cover of the Das-Boot theme.
Chubster
05-13-10, 09:39 PM
Top man....:woot:
I look forward to taking out a few er..... british ships.......hang on a mo old chap, I AM british, that cant be right can it???
Oh hang on, cunning plan. Using your new vid I will sink the entire german navy :D
another video to add to my collection :D woohoo.
Rockin Robbins
05-15-10, 06:18 PM
OK guys, while I get the kinks worked out of my U-Boat handling skills, here's a link to my original written post about how to do Dick O'Kane attacks AND Fast-90 in a U-Boat (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=652326&postcount=67). It's kind of neat to have them both together so you can see the differences.
Dick O'Kane can be done either in a U-Boat or Fleet Boat. Fast-90 can only be done in a U-Boat.
What a shocker! When I was trying out the U-Boat this morning I had completely forgotten that the U-Boat didn't even have active sonar! You get spoiled in the American boats...
Stay tuned for that video.
Chubster
05-15-10, 06:36 PM
Cheers RR....going to give the Uboats a go in the morning....Oh, it is.....lets load her up then :up:
Rockin Robbins
05-26-10, 12:35 PM
I haven't forgotten, just had a tooth pulled and surgery for potential melanoma on my back. I'm still on it!
Chubster
05-26-10, 03:26 PM
Hope you are not feeling too groggy mate and hope all turns out ok with the back....
No rush with the vid....Im still learning some of your tricks in tmo :salute:
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