What do you think of this women?

[Castout]

I attend mass every Sunday afternoon and there's always this thin lady sitting a few pews back from the altar that seems to be causing a disturbance.

You see every time the congregation sing any song she would at the end of it suddenly sang in a clearly wrong pitch longer than the whole people so her voice gets to be heard by the entire church congregation.

As I usually sit quite near her I observed that she seemed to be doing that on purpose. She would only change her pitch at the end of any song and make it longer than the entire congregation.

Nobody dared to do something about her. I say she is harassing the mass(service). People around would turn their head towards her but she seemed to enjoy that and not be ashamed at all. Even the altar boys and girls would turn their head to her.
Weeks after weeks she would do this.

Any comment?!

[tater]

What does she look like?

:D

[Castout]

What does she look like?

:D

Thin, dark skinned and somewhat ugly overall . . .why does it matter?:)

I don't believe she is mentally ill or crazy.

[CaptainHaplo]

As a man of the cloth - I say as long as she is just being an idiot - let her. The less reaction she is given, the less she will get out of the efforts to disrupt - and she will tire of the game - or she will escalate her disturbances, giving the church reason to bar her from attending. She has to cross that line - and so far, she hasn't. The priest also may wish to take it up privately with her if he feels her current actions are too disruptive to be allowed, but not enough to bar her.

Because its a mass, the level of structure is a bit... cast in stone. Were it a protestant church, you would get a different reaction to be sure. I have seen this in a protestant church - to where the pastor organized a rather ... cruel response. During songs, early in the final chorus was cut out at specified times by everyone - except the disruptive person - who was caught singing in key and oblivious - to which everyone started pointing and laughing at them. About three songs into it, the person got pissed, stormed out, and from what I understand, never returned to that church.

[Chad]

Sounds like this teenager who attended my church a few months back who would hoop and hollar "Amen!" after every little thing the Pastor said, and would clap his hands a bit too much just to make a scene.

Thankfully, after two weeks of 2 hours of his b.s. I haven't seen him since :up:

[Castout]

As a man of the cloth - I say as long as she is just being an idiot - let her. The less reaction she is given, the less she will get out of the efforts to disrupt - and she will tire of the game - or she will escalate her disturbances, giving the church reason to bar her from attending. She has to cross that line - and so far, she hasn't. The priest also may wish to take it up privately with her if he feels her current actions are too disruptive to be allowed, but not enough to bar her.
.

But that wouldn't help me feeling annoyed. Maybe I should move farther next time but i like where I usually sit at.
:salute:


Because its a mass, the level of structure is a bit... cast in stone. Were it a protestant church, you would get a different reaction to be sure. I have seen this in a protestant church - to where the pastor organized a rather ... cruel response. During songs, early in the final chorus was cut out at specified times by everyone - except the disruptive person - who was caught singing in key and oblivious - to which everyone started pointing and laughing at them. About three songs into it, the person got pissed, stormed out, and from what I understand, never returned to that church.

That's a bit too cruel though he may deserve it.

[Feuer Frei!]

@ Castout,
have you ever talked to her? (does she seem of able mind)?
Does she attend alone? Does anyone know her personally? I'm thinking maybe she does this elsewhere...
there may be underlying issues with this lady, perhaps a medical condition?
Inferiority complex...insecurities, people tend to gain attention for various reasons, those are just two.
Hard to comment on someone if you don't know their habits etc.

[Feuer Frei!]

i like where I usually sit at.
:salute:


Good spot eh? :DL I guess if it makes it hard for you to be a part of the service you may have to find another good vantage point. Have you attempted to communicate with the lady?
I guess what i'm pointing to is, when communicating with someone, you tend to get a feel for a person, perhaps even indirectly finding out why a person does certain things.
You could be very diplomatic and say to her: Gee you are really enjoying the service, aren't you? Or: Whenever you attend, you seem so enthusiastic and energetic with your participation.
These sorts of neutral yet probing questions can often lead to answers, without directly offending said person.
We don't want to offend, we just want to alleviate this problem, don't we? :up:

[Dowly]

Needs moar dick. :hmmm:

[FIREWALL]

Throw the heaviest bible you can find at the back of her punkin. :haha:

[Feuer Frei!]

Needs moar dick. :hmmm:
:doh:

[Castout]

Good spot eh? :DL I guess if it makes it hard for you to be a part of the service you may have to find another good vantage point. Have you attempted to communicate with the lady?
I guess what i'm pointing to is, when communicating with someone, you tend to get a feel for a person, perhaps even indirectly finding out why a person does certain things.
You could be very diplomatic and say to her: Gee you are really enjoying the service, aren't you? Or: Whenever you attend, you seem so enthusiastic and energetic with your participation.
These sorts of neutral yet probing questions can often lead to answers, without directly offending said person.
We don't want to offend, we just want to alleviate this problem, don't we? :up:

I'm already disliking the lady so I would not be the best candidate to talk to her. what she is doing is disruptive and is an annoyance to other people and that's not communicating she's just being disrespectful towards the mass in general and the people who attend. Try that in a mosque and I can't imagine what would happen to her. But then again women are not allowed in Friday's prayer meeting as far as I know.




Throw the heaviest bible you can find at the back of her punkin. :haha:

I wish she did that somewhere in Italy and the local gangster who attend would pull a gun to her forehead and say "What the fark you think you're doing lil sister?!" [Imagining Robert De Niro in his latest mafia themed comedy flick]

Fast and effective.
No worry there's the confession!:rotfl2:

[HunterICX]

Needs moar dick. :hmmm:

*steps away* :huh:

HunterICX

[d@rk51d3]

Needs moar dick. :hmmm:

You making an offer Dowly? :hmmm:

[Dowly]

Yes I am.

[Feuer Frei!]

Thin, dark skinned and somewhat ugly overall . . .

Yes I am.

The description is no concern to you? :O:

[HunterICX]

The description is no concern to you? :O:

As long its humpable, he'll hit it.

HunterICX

[Dowly]

http://www.webstaurantstore.com/52-lb-1-8-brown-paper-barrel-sack-500-bundle/52-lb-1-8-brown-paper-barrel-sack-500-bundle.jpg

[antikristuseke]

Be careful, could be a two bagger, one for her and one for yourself, in case hers falls off.

[Dowly]

True true. :hmmm:

[Feuer Frei!]

As long its humpable, he'll hit it.

HunterICX

http://www.webstaurantstore.com/52-lb-1-8-brown-paper-barrel-sack-500-bundle/52-lb-1-8-brown-paper-barrel-sack-500-bundle.jpg

:har::har:

[Feuer Frei!]

Be careful, could be a two bagger, one for her and one for yourself, in case hers falls off.
Or.... a body bag, and cut a slit in it :D
*i didn't say that*

[Dowly]

Well that's a new one. :hmmm: *writes on a post-it note*

[Reece]

As a man of the clothOut of curiosity what religion if you don't mind me asking?:hmmm:

[Skybird]

Did she sing wrong and did not realise it, or couldn't do any better? then she should be helped.

Did she behave wrong intentionally, in order to provoke? Then it would be an opportunity to practice some Klingon diplomacy: kick her until she stops or leaves.

[Dowly]

Then it would be an opportunity to practice some Klingon diplomacy: kick her until she stops or leaves.

Make love, not war. *pick me pick me*

[Feuer Frei!]

Make love, not war. *pick me pick me*
I seriously think Castout should obtain some sort of contact details, email, ph/no and pass onto you...
remember: it has to start somewhere :O:
@Castout: you WILL need to talk to her now :haha:

[Skybird]

Make love, not war.
True Klingons may ask: what's the difference? :D

[Dowly]

True Klingons may ask: what's the difference? :D

And the answer he'd get would be a fist in face from John Sheridan, commander of Babylon 5. :O:

[Castout]

Did she sing wrong and did not realise it, or couldn't do any better? then she should be helped.

Did she behave wrong intentionally, in order to provoke? Then it would be an opportunity to practice some Klingon diplomacy: kick her until she stops or leaves.

To me she seemed to sing the wrong key INTENTIONALLY. Everyone could hear her wrong key because she kept on for one or two seconds after everyone had stopped seemingly to me INTENTIONALLY.

She sits on the right most portion of the pew only a few pews from the altar. When everyone stands up she would stand up outside the pews . . .
When she sits down her feet would be outside the pews too.

Yes I am.

No you wouldn't if you knew :D. I wouldn't even for a million bucks.
The church is seeing weirder and weirder goers . . .thieves now operate during the mass too prying on left handbags while the communion is being handed out and people lining up to receive them.

[AVGWarhawk]

You're in church...turn the other cheek or is that turn the other ear? :hmmm: I have seen a few in my time who truly feel they can belt out the hymnals at church but in all reality sound like a dying cow in the hot sun. Makes for good conversation later on in the day. Eventually they stop or go away. Heck, we had one woman who would dance around the church during the singing. She would flutter about looking like a gypsy with a scarf. She was basically ignored. She did have a history of abuse so we left it at that. Just because she does not seem mental she might have something in the past generating this crappy signing or want for attention.

[Platapus]

Maybe she is deaf or partially deaf? Some people can hear normal speech well but when they try to sing, their audible range is too narrow.

Ask yourself, what would this woman gain by intentionally singing in the wrong key/pitch???

[Arclight]

I get the impression she might be lonely and it's a cry for attention. Maybe a conversation would do her more good than people staring at her, even if she provokes it.

[Stealth Hunter]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-d2lUz3w_o0

:har::wah:

[UnderseaLcpl]

Maybe she is deaf or partially deaf? Some people can hear normal speech well but when they try to sing, their audible range is too narrow.

Ask yourself, what would this woman gain by intentionally singing in the wrong key/pitch???

Maybe she's practicing for American Idol auditions.

[kiwi_2005]

Is the woman partly deaf :hmmm: Might not realise shes singing loud, otherwise put her up front in the churches singing choir and let her sing her lungs out. See what the outcome would be.

[Castout]

The women is now back in the church with her out of tunes ending.

I'm beginning to be disgusted that no one is doing anything.

Partly deaf I hope she will if she's not.

Honestly I don't think that's the case she did this on purpose whatever the goal. The altar girl and boy, one of two of them would turn their head to find this woman whenever she starts her out of tune ending.

If it was up to me I would drag her out if she declined to remove herself from the mass to be questioned.

[SteamWake]

I get the impression she might be lonely and it's a cry for attention. Maybe a conversation would do her more good than people staring at her, even if she provokes it.

This .. frankly not knowing the entire situation it is hard to make any sort of judgement however it does sound like a passive aggressive plea for attention.

[tater]

Thin, dark skinned and somewhat ugly overall . . .why does it matter?:)

Because when you have a thread titled "What do you think of this woman?" people expect cheesecake.

I'd solve the problem by hanging out in a bar, instead, myself :)

[Jimbuna]

This .. frankly not knowing the entire situation it is hard to make any sort of judgement however it does sound like a passive aggressive plea for attention.

Is the woman partly deaf :hmmm: Might not realise shes singing loud, otherwise put her up front in the churches singing choir and let her sing her lungs out. See what the outcome would be.

Precisely.....she could also have a learning disability or any number of other reasons.

Why can't the vicar, pastor or whoever take her to one side before or after the next church assembly and try and ascertain the rationale for her behaviour?

[Platapus]

If it was up to me I would drag her out if she declined to remove herself from the mass to be questioned.

Must be some awesome religion you got there. Drag her out to be questioned. Awesome.

Hell of an example to set for the kids in church too. :yep:

[antikristuseke]

http://doesitallmatter.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/sarcasmmeter2.gif

[Castout]

Because when you have a thread titled "What do you think of this woman?" people expect cheesecake.

I'd solve the problem by hanging out in a bar, instead, myself :)

What she's doing is nothing short of religious harassment to me.

As for the cheese
here's a big one for you tater:

http://wallpaperx.org/images/wmwallpapers/Elizabeth-Hurley-liz1741920x1440-1.jpeg







If that wasn't enough this is the video that made me realize that there's such a thing as beautiful people in USA
well the clip is about airsoft etiquette but check out the women in yellow umm umm umm.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NObeS23ZI9g


So what do you think of these women?! ;)


Must be some awesome religion you got there. Drag her out to be questioned. Awesome.

Hell of an example to set for the kids in church too. :yep:

Yea if it was up to me. Like I said I consider this nothing short of religious harassment. Maybe doing that before the mass even started or after. It's not the women but what she's doing.

[Castout]

Precisely.....she could also have a learning disability or any number of other reasons.

Why can't the vicar, pastor or whoever take her to one side before or after the next church assembly and try and ascertain the rationale for her behaviour?

I must assume they can't care less?! Religious figure are not always
religious :D.


Oh the harassing lady


Weeks in week out she has come back to taunt the mass

Mass in mass out she smiles whenever she sings her out of tune mark

Songs in songs out she kept being heard in the end of every one, completely out.:dead:

I hope she someday be a hajj.

and find her God

because she's so out in Christ

so please sync or get out