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danizzz
04-30-10, 05:15 AM
I finally gave up on sh5, and i reinstalled the great SH3 with GWX.

After a couple of patrols i found myself searching for my copy of Das boot dvd......That game was awesome. It really puts you in a real u-boat during the the IIWW, cant believe that they destroyed it with SH5.

Its like to have two totally different games....

Krauter
04-30-10, 05:24 AM
Cool story want a cookie?

danizzz
04-30-10, 05:29 AM
I dont get your post....:hmmm:....

Krauter
04-30-10, 05:33 AM
Why state the fact that you're leaving? If you don't like SH5 fine, why tell the whole world about it. Unless you're looking for help to improve the game I usually see no point in posting the fact your quitting a game or forum. Alas I feel stupid for posting into this thread already..

danizzz
04-30-10, 05:36 AM
You can think what you want, and if you dont like my post dont read it, what do you want from me...go to bed and get some sleep! I think youre tired or something....

Krauter
04-30-10, 05:48 AM
No I'm up too early reading about a kid who is whining about a game and feels the need to proclaim to the world.

Sorry I'll stop feeding the troll

severniae
04-30-10, 05:51 AM
enjoy not playing SHV! I shaln't lose a wink of sleep over it!

Seriously, people need to chill out here. So some people don't like it, great, you don't have to. Is there any need to let us all know about it?

I thought this was the SHV discussion forum, not the 'I'm not playing SHV' forum......:nope:

danizzz
04-30-10, 05:51 AM
:up::yeah:youre the man!!

severniae
04-30-10, 05:56 AM
http://skepacabra.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/facepalm.jpg

Need I say more?

I'll also stop feeding him.

danizzz
04-30-10, 06:04 AM
In a free forum and in a free world i can post whatever i want unless it's an offensive post to somebody. I didnt' offense nobody in my post, and still i dont get your reactions.

You cannot decide what people have to post! youre nobody!

raymond6751
04-30-10, 06:05 AM
It's good to know we haven't lost a subsim fan, at least. He is happy with SH3 and GWX.

Someone asked 'why tell us?'. I say why respond at all?
Just let it go.
There are many more interesting posts in the forums.

Peace. We are all sub fans, with gusto.

Méo
04-30-10, 06:09 AM
Folks here are just fed up with seeing comments like this.

So no offence danizz (at least for me).

reaper7
04-30-10, 07:48 AM
People need to stop complaining about how bad SH5 is, sure its unfinished in many areas but so was SH3 and SH4 when first released.
If you don't like it you got two choices:
1. Turn it off and go play something else or
2. Help make it better. Everything you say is better in other variants of the sub genre is possible in SH5 you just gotta make it so.
Already there are great Mods out fixing Graphics, AI, Interfaces and many bugs.
Why not pick and area of the Game and learn to Mod, create something of benfit to everyone and help make the best u-boat sim ever :up:.

I never modded anything till I installed SH5. Didn't like the gameplay but was blown away by the graphics. Looking at the graphics there was no way I was going back to previous versions. So I started looking through released Mods to see what they did, searched previos threads for advice and just started messing.
And now I'm modding (not much playing though), but I can see the end result and it looks good.

If everyone that didn't like it did something to fix it, imagine the sim we would have. :yeah:

severniae
04-30-10, 08:00 AM
People need to stop complaining about how bad SH5 is, sure its unfinished in many areas but so was SH3 and SH4 when first released.
If you don't like it you got two choices:
1. Turn it off and go play something else or
2. Help make it better. Everything you say is better in other variants of the sub genre is possible in SH5 you just gotta make it so.
Already there are great Mods out fixing Graphics, AI, Interfaces and many bugs.
Why not pick and area of the Game and learn to Mod, create something of benfit to everyone and help make the best u-boat sim ever :up:.

I never modded anything till I installed SH5. Didn't like the gameplay but was blown away by the graphics. Looking at the graphics there was no way I was going back to previous versions. So I started looking through released Mods to see what they did, searched previos threads for advice and just started messing.
And now I'm modding (not much playing though), but I can see the end result and it looks good.

If everyone that didn't like it did something to fix it, imagine the sim we would have. :yeah:

Amen to that.:up: I'm planning on downloading the editor and having a go myself this long weekend!

Feuer Frei!
04-30-10, 08:07 AM
I quote 2 German proverbs:

"Speaking comes by nature, silence by understanding."

"Instead of complaining that the rosebush is full of thorns, be happy that the thorn bush has roses."

rascal101
04-30-10, 09:41 AM
Brilliant!:yeah:

Thanks for those I quote 2 German proverbs:

"Speaking comes by nature, silence by understanding."

"Instead of complaining that the rosebush is full of thorns, be happy that the thorn bush has roses." :rock:

jdkbph
04-30-10, 10:00 AM
Umm... guys, we're all glad that some of you are actually enjoying SH5. No meed to jump on every post that decries the flaws and short comings of a game, in many ways so obviously inferior to it's predecessor.

People buy and play games like these with different expectations. Just because your expectations don't align with the OP doesn't make him wrong, nor does it make you stupid for enjoying something he feels is crap.

IMHO, you pays your money, you deserves your say... even if it's been said a thousand times already by someone else.

JD

Feuer Frei!
04-30-10, 10:30 AM
Umm... guys, we're all glad that some of you are actually enjoying SH5. No meed to jump on every post that decries the flaws and short comings of a game, in many ways so obviously inferior to it's predecessor.

People buy and play games like these with different expectations. Just because your expectations don't align with the OP doesn't make him wrong, nor does it make you stupid for enjoying something he feels is crap.

IMHO, you pays your money, you deserves your say... even if it's been said a thousand times already by someone else.

JD
You make a good point, i respect it fully.
I think that us game owners who allegedly jump on "every" post to point out that said post has been posted a thousand times before does not indicate that we game owners who do this disagree with the O.P. or indeed the person that again has made an observation which, and let's face it, is a tedious and unoriginal post.
We the game owners who appear to disagree with the gameowners who continuously post words which have become tired and worn, and some, i stress the word some game owners who hijack a thread to meander off-topic, if they actually even addressed the thread title in the first place, that is, well.....then surely the game owners who apparently don't agree with the "you suck" and "Drm sucks" and Ubisoft Devs/games/suits/patch delays/patches sucks posts, well, surely we may be entitled to a reprieve of that sort of posting? Certainly once in a while at least?
A gentle question that one, that's all. :salute:
What is achieved by repeating continuously: DRM/Ubisoft/Delay in patch is crap/Devs are at fault posts?
What is achieved by, in some cases openly hijacking a thread?
What is achieved by not addressing the thread title?
Not a great deal, let me assure you.
I do sometimes pity the O.P.'s.....
I'm just responding, not criticising.

severniae
04-30-10, 10:33 AM
Umm... guys, we're all glad that some of you are actually enjoying SH5. No meed to jump on every post that decries the flaws and short comings of a game, in many ways so obviously inferior to it's predecessor.

People buy and play games like these with different expectations. Just because your expectations don't align with the OP doesn't make him wrong, nor does it make you stupid for enjoying something he feels is crap.

IMHO, you pays your money, you deserves your say... even if it's been said a thousand times already by someone else.

JD

Yes, I agree everyone deserves their say. However is there really any need to create a new thread every time someone wants to whine about it and declare to the world they no longer want to play? There are plenty of threads discussing the shortcomings and the good things about SHV - Why not add to one of those? Instead of trolling the forum with pointless attention seeking whiny threads!

@danizzz - Please don't take offence, that really isn't my intention. I only think that there is a better place and way to express your dissatisfaction. I for one think that there has been far too much negativity in this forum the last week, things have gotten far too tense and unpleasant in places and we really need to pull together as a community now and move on and get back to what we're here for - Subsimming! I think there's a subsim for everyone, if you don't like SHV, 3&4 are also extremely good. I still play SHIII with GWX almost daily, as well as SHV and enjoy them both for their own merits. Infact if I'm honest, I've had more problems with SHIII this last week that its newer, supposedly less stable successor!

Drifter
04-30-10, 11:06 AM
I finally gave up on sh5, and i reinstalled the great SH3 with GWX.

After a couple of patrols i found myself searching for my copy of Das boot dvd......That game was awesome. It really puts you in a real u-boat during the the IIWW, cant believe that they destroyed it with SH5.

Its like to have two totally different games....

You and a lot of other people around here. Except for better graphics, I would say that SH5 is a major failure. No surprise really, knowing how Ubisoft has an established reputation for releasing half-finished, buggy games. Not to even mention their horrible customer communication and support. I don't think the company has much life left in it. :shifty:

SabreHawk
04-30-10, 11:34 AM
Wanna feed somebody? Feed this guy before he looses all his fingers.
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b370/SabreHawk1/SH5Img2010-04-09_175957.jpg

Nisgeis
04-30-10, 11:38 AM
Umm... guys, we're all glad that some of you are actually enjoying SH5. No meed to jump on every post that decries the flaws and short comings of a game, in many ways so obviously inferior to it's predecessor.

It would have been interesting to read what the OP did not like about the game, but there was no mention of what the OP did not like or what flaws he thought the game had. It has been my experience of these forums that specific complaints about the game are met with helpful suggestions about what mods the OP could use in order to get more enjoyment out of the game or to address the specific problems. The people here are very helpful, but you have to want to be helped and give a bit of information.

IMHO, you pays your money, you deserves your say... even if it's been said a thousand times already by someone else.

JD

Does that count for everyone equally? If it does, then there's also nothing wrong with continously jumping on threads giving the same responses over and over either. Personally, I disagree with that philosphy. Having the same discussion over and over again doesn't get anyone anywhere and it doesn't make for an interesting discussion either.

michaelws
04-30-10, 11:46 AM
I find merit in both the complaints and the praises of the game, no matter how redundant. The redundancy shows numbers and or levels of passion on both sides of an issue. Any comment is giving credit to what this simulation is all about and how much it means to those who have purchased, played and modded the software over the years.

The only wasted comments are when we digress and begin labeling each other. We are all Silent Hunter fans. We all want the most from our time with this sim. Divisiveness will not further any of us. Love it or hate it, post it...in any non-offensive way. This is a genre with great potential and hopefully all constructive arguments or debates will only help push this game to ever greater heights.

codmander
04-30-10, 12:03 PM
I have to diss on sh5 also only by hear..say because I dont own it :salute: but someday when its $2.99 I may support ubi for an unfinished game:rotfl2:

jdkbph
04-30-10, 12:34 PM
I find merit in both the complaints and the praises of the game, no matter how redundant. The redundancy shows numbers and or levels of passion on both sides of an issue.

Bingo. I'm sure many see this practice as being similar to signing a petition. Yes, it's been said once (or a thousand times) but we all want to feel like our vote has been counted.

Personally, if I were a game developer or publisher, I would pay more attention to a problem or opinion voiced multiple times, in many places, by many different people, than I would if it were posted just once. I wouldn't (want to?) see the multitudes behind that one post all nodding their heads in agreement, and I could easily convince myself that the absence of multiple posts indicates the opinion is only that of one or a few disgruntled whiners.

JD

John Channing
04-30-10, 12:40 PM
I don't think the company has much life left in it. :shifty:

From the Ubisoft Investor Website...


For the first nine months of fiscal 2009-10, sales totaled €661 million

That equates to $878,303,306.42 USD for 9 months sales.

Yup... they are pretty well done.

JCC

robbo180265
04-30-10, 01:12 PM
Here's an idea.

Not too sure how many of you guys are members of Facebook, but there is an anti DRM group there

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=312298689495

It's not too active at the mo - but maybe you could join up with them - see what can be done.

You're all welcome to add me too, I'm there under my real name "Adin Roberts" Just make sure that you let me know your forum name here (not too keen on adding strangers)

Sorry for the hijack - but I thought it worth mentioning.

Feuer Frei!
04-30-10, 07:05 PM
Bingo. I'm sure many see this practice as being similar to signing a petition. Yes, it's been said once (or a thousand times) but we all want to feel like our vote has been counted.

Personally, if I were a game developer or publisher, I would pay more attention to a problem or opinion voiced multiple times, in many places, by many different people, than I would if it were posted just once. I wouldn't (want to?) see the multitudes behind that one post all nodding their heads in agreement, and I could easily convince myself that the absence of multiple posts indicates the opinion is only that of one or a few disgruntled whiners.

JD
I can guaranatee you that if i was a Dev or Producer of a PC Game (yep, hypothesizing here, a lot of others do it too), then i would rather read all the hate/dislike mail in one unified, single and merged thread, rather than dislike mail plastered all over a forum.
The occurance of multiple posts does nothing to "persuade" a company to drop something or to fix something immediately.
When thinking about posting and being part of the dronous and so monotonous posting crowd who can't seem to come up with their own "creation" in a thread, and who can't be bothered to keep on-topic, letalone address the thread, well, then it becomes not a case of "everyone's entitled to their opinion" or "everyone has a right to have their say heard", but a case of "move on", "have some respect to your fellow members here" and maybe, just maybe it will take some of the friction and heat out of this forum, which has been occurring a little bit now.

Drifter
04-30-10, 08:28 PM
From the Ubisoft Investor Website...




That equates to $878,303,306.42 USD for 9 months sales.

Yup... they are pretty well done.

JCC

You are not telling the whole story, nor giving dates. Sales and profits are two different things. Any company can have high sales, and still operate at a loss.


UBISOFT® REPORTS FIRST-HALF 2009-10 RESULTS

Sales : €166 million

Current operating loss of €78 million, in line with guidance http://www.ubisoftgroup.com/index.php?p=59&art_id=60&vars=Y29tX2lkPTcxNiZzZW5kZXJfdXJsPWluZGV4LnBocCUzR nAlM0Q1OSUyNmFydF9pZCUzRDYwJTI2dmFycyUzRFkyOXRYMmx rUFRjeE1DWnpaVzVrWlhKZmRYSnNQV2x1WkdWNExuQm9jQ1V6U m5BbE0wUTFPU1V5Tm1GeWRGOXBaQ1V6UkRZd0pUSTJkbUZ5Y3l VelJGa3lPWFJZTW14clVGUmplRTVwV25wYVZ6VnJXbGhKT1ZOR k9VNVNVMXA2V2xjMWExcFlTbVprV0VwelVGZHNkVnBIVmpSTWJ rSnZZME5WZWxKdVRuQmtSamx3V2tOVmVsSkVTVzFhYld4elpFZ FdlVmd6VWpWalIxVTVTbTFhY0dKSVVteGpiRGwwWWpJMU1HRkV NRzFhYld4elpFZFdlVmd6Ykd4WldFazU%3D


Among the comprehensive list of numbers in Ubisoft's first half fiscal 2009-10 report (http://www.ubisoftgroup.com/index.php?p=59&art_id=60&vars=Y29tX2lkPTcxNiZzZW5kZXJfdXJsPWluZGV4LnBocCUzR nAlM0Q1OSUyNmFydF9pZCUzRDYwJTI2dmFycyUzRFkyOXRYMmx rUFRjeE1DWnpaVzVrWlhKZmRYSnNQV2x1WkdWNExuQm9jQ1V6U m5BbE0wUTFPU1V5Tm1GeWRGOXBaQ1V6UkRZd0pUSTJkbUZ5Y3l VelJGa3lPWFJZTW14clVGUmplRTVwV25wYVZ6VnJXbGhKT1ZOR k9VNVNVMXA2V2xjMWExcFlTbVprV0VwelVGZHNkVnBIVmpSTWJ rSnZZME5WZWxKdVRuQmtSamx3V2tOVmVsSkVTVzFhYld4elpFZ FdlVmd6VWpWalIxVTVTbTFhY0dKSVVteGpiRGwwWWpJMU1HRkV NRzFhYld4elpFZFdlVmd6Ykd4WldFazU%3D), measuring performance in April through September 2009, one figure stands out: the French company's reported €52,027,000 in not-profit. That's right, Ubisoft's profits are down by more than €70 million (over $100 million) from the same period last year to rest firmly in the red.

From a profitable first half of fiscal 2008-09 of roughly €24 million to just over €52 million in losses in the first half of fiscal 2009-10, Ubisoft's profits have experienced a year-over-year change of -316.53 percent.http://www.joystiq.com/2009/11/30/ubisoft-first-half-profits-plummet-into-loss-alongside-falling-r/

Yup... they are pretty well done. :know:

Capt_Sluggo
04-30-10, 09:40 PM
Sales and profits are two different things.

Ay caramba!

Bail-out! Where's Ubi's BAIL-OUT? Taxpayers, please step forward!

:haha:

jdkbph
05-07-10, 09:28 AM
I can guaranatee you that if i was a Dev or Producer of a PC Game (yep, hypothesizing here, a lot of others do it too), then i would rather read all the hate/dislike mail in one unified, single and merged thread, rather than dislike mail plastered all over a forum.

Well, here's the thing. If I were a poster of hate/dislike mail with a strong opinion and trying to be heard, I couldn't give a rat's azz what you, the developer (hypothetically speaking), would rather.

My objective is to put my opinion in front of your face. I want you to see it/read it/smell it/taste it everywhere you look, every time you turn around. I'm shooting for 360 degree coverage, and putting it all in one thread makes it just too easy to ignore.

So I guess we'll have to disagree on this one.

JD

Feuer Frei!
05-07-10, 09:32 AM
Well, here's the thing. If I were a poster of hate/dislike mail with a strong opinion and trying to be heard, I couldn't give a rat's azz what you, the developer (hypothetically speaking), would rather.

My objective is to put my opinion in front of your face. I want you to see it/read it/smell it/taste it everywhere you look, every time you turn around. I'm shooting for 360 degree coverage, and putting it all in one thread makes it just too easy to ignore.

So I guess we'll have to disagree on this one.

JD
Your point is a valid one, we will have to agree to disagree :03:

Moeceefus
05-07-10, 12:10 PM
i just want to let you all know that i have given up on sh3 and 4. i know you have all been wondering about what i've been playing. i just can't get back into 3 + 4 after all the goodness in 5. plus with all the resentment i still feel towards 3+4 taking so long to be fixed into a "playable" state, i feel its time for me to move on. so there you have it. my opinion for all of my fans who have been wondering about me. :D

robbo180265
05-07-10, 02:08 PM
i just want to let you all know that i have given up on sh3 and 4. i know you have all been wondering about what i've been playing. i just can't get back into 3 + 4 after all the goodness in 5. plus with all the resentment i still feel towards 3+4 taking so long to be fixed into a "playable" state, i feel its time for me to move on. so there you have it. my opinion for all of my fans who have been wondering about me. :D

I wouldn't give up on 3, I'm enjoying SH3 + GWX3 immensely. At the moment its 1940 and I'm sailing around in my type IX. To be honest it took very little time for me to forget the eye candy in 5 and realise just how good a modded 3 is.

Go-on give it a go:03:

Moeceefus
05-07-10, 02:21 PM
I wouldn't give up on 3, I'm enjoying SH3 + GWX3 immensely. At the moment its 1940 and I'm sailing around in my type IX. To be honest it took very little time for me to forget the eye candy in 5 and realise just how good a modded 3 is.

Go-on give it a go:03:


no doubt sh3 with mods is a fine game. it took a very long time to get there though. i think sh5 will surpass it in far less time given the chance and modder dedication. point is, all of the sh's got off to a rough start and it has only been through time and a bit of tender loving care, have they become what they are. compared to the last 2 sh5 isn't off to that bad a start really.

Méo
05-07-10, 02:27 PM
I wouldn't give up on 3, I'm enjoying SH3 + GWX3 immensely. At the moment its 1940 and I'm sailing around in my type IX. To be honest it took very little time for me to forget the eye candy in 5 and realise just how good a modded 3 is.

Go-on give it a go:03:

I did the same (except for the type IX).

But I felt like I've been playing too much this game...

I don't think I'll play any U-boat sim again as long as there are no wolfpacks.

That would extend the game's replayability so much! :timeout:

It seems like I'm just one of the few here who really cares about it. :hmmm:

gord96
05-07-10, 02:39 PM
i dont think I could go back to SH3 after SH5. I love the fact that you have to walk around the submarine. Really puts you into the action. No more teleporting. I LIKE the fact that I need to go into the sub before i order a crash dive. :arrgh!:

30winter
05-07-10, 02:46 PM
* puts on some anti-Flame Apparel *

There.. much better.

I hate to say it, but I'm kinda in the same boat as TC though I wouldn't go so far as to say I've had it and will not play this game ever again.

I am simply not playing it until it gets patched up to what I would consider a "playable state". (And yes, I have all the recommended mods etc)

If Ubisoft can't be bothered to patch the game up (I consider the list of 1.2 to be a step on the way) then I will simply stop purchasing anymore Ubisoft products. (I have been a loyal Ubisoft customer since Rainbow 6 on the xbox) I bought a game expecting a decent experience, not to pay Ubisoft to become an unofficial Beta-tester.

For now, all I can do is say Meh! while flicking my right hand in a dismissive manner.

Nisgeis
05-07-10, 03:11 PM
I don't think I'll play any U-boat sim again as long as there are no wolfpacks.

That would extend the game's replayability so much! :timeout:

It would lead to people moaning about other U-Boats stealing their kills, or how boring it was to shadow the convoy, when all they wanted to do was to attack the convoy. Gotta find that negative angle.

Méo
05-07-10, 03:51 PM
It would lead to people moaning about other U-Boats stealing their kills, or how boring it was to shadow the convoy, when all they wanted to do was to attack the convoy. Gotta find that negative angle.

Yeah, but I never understood the ''stealing my kill'' complaint...:nope:

I mean it's not like if another U-boat will be 100m next to you !? :damn:

They (or he) is more likely to be on the other side of the convoy or wait after your attack, or you could wait for him to attack and have more space (since an escort would probably chase that U-boat, and of course, I'm talking about surface night attack).

But I guess people will always complain no matter what...

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And about shadowing the convoy, there could be some sort of ''shadow convoy order'' then you could use time compression an be alerted when: the convoy change course, an escort gets close, weather is changing, etc.

MILLANDSON
05-07-10, 03:53 PM
My objective is to put my opinion in front of your face. I want you to see it/read it/smell it/taste it everywhere you look, every time you turn around. I'm shooting for 360 degree coverage, and putting it all in one thread makes it just too easy to ignore.

So instead they can ignore the 100 threads on it rather than 1?

Not only that, but in the process you make the forum look cluttered and disorganised by having any thread not including the topic of "I HATE UBI!!!111oneoneoneeleventy" pushed off the front page, which will in turn push away any new people to the forum because all they can see is people complaining without anything really constructive to say.

Sailor Steve
05-07-10, 04:57 PM
i dont think I could go back to SH3 after SH5. I love the fact that you have to walk around the submarine. Really puts you into the action. No more teleporting. I LIKE the fact that I need to go into the sub before i order a crash dive. :arrgh!:
But for now I can't walk around my Type II or Type IX. And you can talk to the crew, but there are only four or five of them. Does SH5 have names for all the crew members, like earlier versions?

I like the idea of not teleporting as well, but in a crash dive there should be a cut scene instead. In any dive the officer calling the dive is the last man down, and he secures the hatch; so having to be inside first is unrealistic.

That said, I'm looking forward to playing 5 someday, and I still think it will be better than the rest combined once it's actually finished.

gord96
05-07-10, 10:36 PM
good points sailor steve. i miss the Type II as well. was always my favorite sub in SH3. :)

i like your crash dive idea as well!

i loved just being in the sub in SH3. I would use that trick that would release the camera and walk between the two rooms over and over. SH5 lets you walk through the whole sub! sure it could be done ALOT better, but you cant beat it. I love walking to the galley and asking the cook to make a special meal for the crew after a nice day of hunting :arrgh!: the entire sub being available is really the kicker for me. :)

brett25
05-10-10, 04:48 PM
thanks for the post danizz, i think its valuable to read honest and objective views, for those of us that are evaluating wether or not to try SH5. My research has led me to conclude that it is not worth it at this time and that SH3 remains the better game given my style and tastes.:salute:

jdkbph
05-10-10, 06:40 PM
...all they can see is people complaining without anything really constructive to say.


What does that mean... constructive? Can't a legitimate complaint be constructive? Isn't the act of letting the vendor know his customers are dissatisfied with his product constructive? One post or one thread posted by one person, regardless of how many are silently nodding agreement when they read it, does not serve that purpose.

Or maybe you think a constructive post will contain some sort of miracle revelation... such as how the vendor can immediately fix their deficient product at no cost to anyone? Do you think they're silently surfing the forums waiting for that one "constructive" post that will get them off the hook? I don't think so.

The vendor knows what they need to do. The hate posts are merely serving to catalyse the situation.. one way or another. Either they hear the compaints and act, or they hear the complaints and run. What they can't do is say they didn't hear the complaints...

JD

Méo
05-10-10, 08:00 PM
What does that mean... constructive?

It simply means to be realistic in your critic and do it without insult (btw, not insulting someone doesn't mean to be docile).

I don't know if you work, but if you do and if you have clients I'm pretty sure you won't put any zeal in your work if your clients keep doing personal attacks towards you.

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Edit: I don't know if you insulted anyone, my post is only a reply to your question.

Stronghold
05-10-10, 08:10 PM
What does that mean... constructive? Can't a legitimate complaint be constructive? Isn't the act of letting the vendor know his customers are dissatisfied with his product constructive? One post or one thread posted by one person, regardless of how many are silently nodding agreement when they read it, does not serve that purpose.

Or maybe you think a constructive post will contain some sort of miracle revelation... such as how the vendor can immediately fix their deficient product at no cost to anyone? Do you think they're silently surfing the forums waiting for that one "constructive" post that will get them off the hook? I don't think so.

The vendor knows what they need to do. The hate posts are merely serving to catalyse the situation.. one way or another. Either they hear the compaints and act, or they hear the complaints and run. What they can't do is say they didn't hear the complaints...

JD
Fortunately there are still a few individuals with vertebral column left in this place ... I am glad to see that.

Sailor Steve
05-10-10, 09:59 PM
Late note to Méo: Aces Of The Deep has wolfpacks.:D

Méo
05-10-10, 10:35 PM
Late note to Méo: Aces Of The Deep has wolfpacks.:D

yeah, I should really give it a try someday. :hmmm:

And the wolfpacks tactics works well??

gimpy117
05-10-10, 10:42 PM
Oh boy! yet another "SH5 sucks I'm not going to play it thread"! :yeah:

At least the next 4 pages somewhat make sense and actually discuss something, rather than just pointlessly saying something to make another scene in the Silent Hunter 5 forum (just what we need more drama here).

jdkbph
05-11-10, 08:45 AM
I don't know if you work, but if you do and if you have clients I'm pretty sure you won't put any zeal in your work if your clients keep doing personal attacks towards you.

I don't give them a chance. It is my aim to deliver what I'm being paid to deliver... and then some. That's how I stay employed while many others around me are not. Tough times means you work harder and smarter... not throw up your hands and say "that's the best I could do with what I was given". UBI does not understand that. If that's an insult, then I'm guilty.


Edit: I don't know if you insulted anyone, my post is only a reply to your question.

Thank you, but I don't believe I did.

JD

Sailor Steve
05-11-10, 09:47 AM
yeah, I should really give it a try someday. :hmmm:

And the wolfpacks tactics works well??
From what I've heard they work very well. I came to the game late and never played it past 1940. Come to think of it I don't think I've ever played SH3 past 1940 either.:oops:

dannygjk
05-12-10, 05:33 AM
Wanna feed somebody? Feed this guy before he looses all his fingers.
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b370/SabreHawk1/SH5Img2010-04-09_175957.jpg
Actually you can't see his fingers because his hand is balled into a fist, as he is about to punch the cook :D

IanC
05-12-10, 06:13 AM
What's up with the crew looking like they're in their mid 30's anyways? That cook looks like a crack addict in his early 40's.

Faamecanic
05-12-10, 06:31 AM
Folks here are just fed up with seeing comments like this.

So no offence danizz (at least for me).


I love how all the people that are fed up with seeing comments like the OP's feel the overwhelming desire to then post thier dissatisfaction in the same thread commenting on the OP's topic.

To me its simple... you see the thread title, know its a biatch thread, dont read it and move on...

dannygjk
09-17-10, 10:06 AM
People you are more at fault for jumping on someone for expressing their opinion in a reasonable manner. Relax.

Dowly
09-17-10, 10:13 AM
People you are more at fault for jumping on someone for expressing their opinion in a reasonable manner. Relax.

More like some people can't see that the game that was SHIII is still there under all the glitter. I've done 1 and 2/4 patrols 1xTC with 1.0 SH5 using no mods (gameplay ones) and there's nothing wrong with the darn game.

Now I don't know what the patches have done or the mods, but anyone who says SH5 is a bad game is at the same time saying SHIII/SHIV is bad, the core is the same, you just have to see it thru the new additions.

PS. I didn't read even the first post of the thread (that I can remember) so sorry if this is misplaced yaadidaa.

Ow and YARR! :arrgh!:

Wolfling04
09-17-10, 12:28 PM
People you are more at fault for jumping on someone for expressing their opinion in a reasonable manner. Relax.


I'd say they are relaxed, thread died 4 months ago

Méo
09-17-10, 02:53 PM
I'd say they are relaxed, thread died 4 months ago

lol :DL

Takeda Shingen
09-17-10, 03:13 PM
http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad345/EddieLomax/necroqcj.jpg

Jimbuna
09-17-10, 04:06 PM
http://www.zwani.com/graphics/groundhog_day/images/4happy_groundhog_day_1.gif

SH5 is fine....give it a chance and try a few mods.

DavyJonesFootlocker
09-17-10, 04:18 PM
Here's what I don't like about Sh5:

1. Hackl's food tastes like bratispulver.:dead:
2. The conning tower crew decides to sunbathe whenever I give the order to dive.
3. The fog in the sim isn't fog but cigarette smoke.
4. Whenever the boat surfaces the crew seemed to enjoy melting into each other Sci-Fi style.
5. It is ruining my life.:D:D:D

Iron Budokan
09-17-10, 06:31 PM
I finally gave up on sh5, and i reinstalled the great SH3 with GWX.

After a couple of patrols i found myself searching for my copy of Das boot dvd......That game was awesome. It really puts you in a real u-boat during the the IIWW, cant believe that they destroyed it with SH5.

Its like to have two totally different games....

Your views intrigue me. Where might I subscribe to your newsletter?

dannygjk
09-21-10, 06:33 AM
Death thou art dead :arrgh!:

Zedi
09-21-10, 06:40 AM
I finally gave up on sh5, and i reinstalled the great SH3 with GWX.

After a couple of patrols i found myself searching for my copy of Das boot dvd......That game was awesome. It really puts you in a real u-boat during the the IIWW, cant believe that they destroyed it with SH5.

Its like to have two totally different games....

I'm happy for you. Sh5 is not nub friendly at all. Wish all SH3 fans would do the same and don't post here anymore.

Karasunx
09-21-10, 05:24 PM
http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad345/EddieLomax/necroqcj.jpg

:har: Clatto Verata Nnn...definitely an 'N' word.

fastfed
09-22-10, 12:36 PM
I'm happy for you. Sh5 is not nub friendly at all. Wish all SH3 fans would do the same and don't post here anymore.


SH5 is "NOT nub? I assume beginner you mean?" Friendly?? Did I read that right?

I too left SH5 and went back to GWX.. Why, because like MANY MANY people they wanted a real sub simulator. My time is precious and I was wasting hours upon hours trying to enjoy a game that all there is, is eyecandy..

I know the modders are doing great things, I have tried many, most from what I see are just adding "more" eye candy, I felt something was missing in SH5, I finally found out when I went back to SH3.. A simulator..

This is not to insult.. I OWN THE GAME TOO! And every SH series.. But to say SH5 is "NOT" for nubs as you put it.. Is nuts.. SH5 is the arcade of all arcade games out of the series, my nephew plays this, right after modern warfare 2.. I hope one day it becomes the mature simulator that I want it to.. But I just don't know...

Takeda Shingen
09-22-10, 12:38 PM
:har: Clatto Verata Nnn...definitely an 'N' word.

???

I just googled 'Thread Necromancy' and that was the first image that popped up.

Sailor Steve
09-22-10, 09:00 PM
???

I just googled 'Thread Necromancy' and that was the first image that popped up.
It looks like he meant to say "Klaatu barada nikto". Like you, I'm not sure why.

McBeck
09-23-10, 02:40 AM
I like this thread ALOT :D

Takao
09-23-10, 07:26 AM
Wrong movie Steve,

"Klaatu barada nikto" is from "The Day the Earth Stood Still."

Ahs: "Clatto Verata N... Necktie... Neckturn... Nickel... It's an 'N' word, it's definitely an "N" word! Clatto... Verata... N- "[coughs] is from "Army of Darkness."

By screwing up the N-Word, Ash unintentionally wakes the undead "Army of Darkness."

Sailor Steve
09-23-10, 09:04 AM
Wrong movie Steve,

"Klaatu barada nikto" is from "The Day the Earth Stood Still."

Ahs: "Clatto Verata N... Necktie... Neckturn... Nickel... It's an 'N' word, it's definitely an "N" word! Clatto... Verata... N- "[coughs] is from "Army of Darkness."

By screwing up the N-Word, Ash unintentionally wakes the undead "Army of Darkness."
Ah. Screwing up famous phrases is a time-honored (and very funny) tradition. Thanks for the correction. :sunny: