Selling my SH5 (UK)

[rundeepa]

I hope this isnt against forum rules?

I am selling my copy of SH5, i just dont have time to play it, and perhaps someone who was cautious about buying it, will take a chance on it being a bit cheaper.

Its on ebay right now


(http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170479275947&ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT)

[walsh2509]

Is the Serial No not tied to you Ubi logon ? So if anyone tries to register it to there ubi logon it won't work ??

I thought I read that somewhere , not so much about pirate copies , more to do with stopping Re-Sale of the game.

[sofie_59]

I hope this isnt against forum rules?

I am selling my copy of SH5, i just dont have time to play it, and perhaps someone who was cautious about buying it, will take a chance on it being a bit cheaper.

Its on ebay right now

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170479275947&ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT

It is linked to your acount, so nobody can registred it.
You have to give away your acount at UBI to i think

[msxyz]

Unfortunately you cannot sell software that employ some kind of registering scheme.

What most people here on these forums failed to grapsp is that DRM is aimed mainly at killing the legitimate second hand market as well as discourage the casual pirates in the process.

Even the most sophisticate copy protection scheme will get eventually cracked. But the second hand market is a pain in the ass of publishers. Unfortunately for them, several courts around the world ruled that selling a book, a vinyl or CD (just to name a few examples of content which rest on some form of phisical media) is perfectly legitimate and so is selling an used piece of software.

The moment you insert some kind of mandatory registration tied to an account, selling the media becomes useless, even if there's no law preventing you to do so. In other words, the consumers get shafted once again. :doh:

[rundeepa]

well, its no big deal giving away my ubi account either, i mean, it doesnt do much anyway.

[Ragtag]

Jesus, he's just trying to sell it with the account. No need to bomb the crap out of him.

[The General]

Jesus, he's just trying to sell it with the account. No need to bomb the crap out of him.I retract my comment for being too realistic for some people.

[Zedi]

It's the same procedure as selling ur account in any mmo game. I'm not sure if selling SH5 is covered in the EULA, I mean if is allowed to sell ur account. If not, there is a risk to be scamed as the seller can get back his account after he got paid even if he give away his account details. In WoW this is a really risky business and you have to be really careful from who and from where to buy a new account.

Anyway, this is not WoW and a high interest nor expensive game, so I really don't see any interest for scams.

[SKLR]

Use of the Multimedia Product

The User is authorised to use the Multimedia Product in accordance with the instructions provided in the manual or on the packaging of the Multimedia Product.
The Licence is granted solely for private use.

It is not permitted:
- To make copies of the Multimedia Product,
- To operate the Multimedia Product commercially,
- To use it contrary to morality or the laws in force,
- To modify the Multimedia Product or create any derived work,
- To transmit the Multimedia Product via a telephone network or any other electronic means, except during multi-player games on authorised networks,
- To create or distribute unauthorised levels and/or scenarios,
- To decompile, reverse engineer or disassemble the Multimedia Product.

The Multimedia Product can only be played after the User registers the Multimedia Product and obtains a unique ubi.com account. This Multimedia Product is distributed solely for use by the authorized end User who has registered the Multimedia Product and obtained a unique ubi.com account.

The User cannot transfer, sell, resell, sublicense, rent or lease the downloaded copy of the Multimedia Product and the attached Key Code to a third party. The User cannot sublicense, rent or lease the hard copy of the Multimedia Product and the attached Key Code to a third party.

You understand and agree that this Multimedia Product requires an online connection at all times and the Multimedia Product must be played through the Internet services provided at ubi.com. In the event Ubisoft terminates or discontinues Internet services associated with this Multimedia Product, Ubisoft will provide a software update that will allow the User to utilize the Multimedia Product without connecting to Ubisoft's servers.

The User acknowledges that Ubisoft may collect and use certain User data in accordance with the terms of use and/or privacy policy accessible on the website www.ubi.com (http://www.ubi.com/).According to the EULA, which everyone obviously reads, your auction is illegal.
LE: Oh, and they also own your server stored saved games. Quite an entertining read really.

[Feuer Frei!]

Oh, and they also own your server stored saved games.
Meh, they can have them :cool:

" To create or distribute unauthorised levels and/or scenarios" :hmmm:

Well, if one was to take that literally, or out of context.....
Modders, anyone? Creating levels and/or scenarios :O:

Obviously no dramas, i know that. I'm being pedantic.

[rundeepa]

i can offer anyone who buys it plenty of assurances he/she wont be scammed, i have sold steam accounts before, against there eula i know, but the buyers aint complaining.

if this is against forum rules then please close the thread, if it isnt, please stop bleating on about eula, and scams.

[Feuer Frei!]

i can offer anyone who buys it plenty of assurances he/she wont be scammed, i have sold steam accounts before, against there eula i know, but the buyers aint complaining.

if this is against forum rules then please close the thread, if it isnt, please stop bleating on about eula, and scams.
i think they are just trying to give advice, with some facts, i'm sure they are not insinuating anything to do with your product on ebay :up:

[rundeepa]

well im sorry if i misinterpreted it in some way, it just seemed i should expect a lawyer knocking on the door any time now.

but it is cheap at that price, so, please someone buy it :)

[SKLR]

I was just saying careful with ebay, maybe try to pass it on to a friend, you know...discreetly.

[SabreHawk]

Your not getting it Rundeepa, what you are wanting to do is illegal plain and simple.
What you are asking someone else to do, is buy an unusable product that you are selling illegally.

You aggreed to the EULA when you registered SH5 and created the account. And now you are essentially saying you dont aggree with it.

[Boats]

Interesting, according to the EULA modding might be considered illegal, and yet one selling point for this game is it's modding capability. But then, if all the saved games become property of Ubi Scam (Soft, sorry) then are they stealing others' work (ie mods) by laying claim to any that are used in anyone's game via online save?

It begs another question, if I don't change the contents of the disc iteself, but, after loading the game onto my machine, does that count? I'm not changing anything that I purchased, only some files on my own machine. Is the EULA legally laying claim to a portion of my PC? I mean if I wanted to use something to enhance the performance of this game on my machine (read, that which must not be mentioned) and therefore install that something on My machine after legally purchase of the disc, that becomes an illegal act? A mere download of one file (non-pornographic) placed on the HD of my machine makes my machine contraband of an illegal act. So the game is legally claiming ownership of a portion of my PC and Ubi, by it's EULA, is claiming ownership to all mods used by the online save aspect of this game.

I never read the EULA because I don't have any intentions of doing anything illegal. Just use the game on MY machine and that's all. Maybe I'm breaking a law just using this game and therefore shouldn't.;)

[rundeepa]

i do get it, but why is it an unusable product?

i have sold steam accounts, i have sold lots of other digitally obtained games, i have sold mmo accounts, they were all usuable, so please tell me what makes this one so different to all the others??

[robbo180265]

i do get it, but why is it an unusable product?

i have sold steam accounts, i have sold lots of other digitally obtained games, i have sold mmo accounts, they were all usuable, so please tell me what makes this one so different to all the others??

Everything you've done in that list is illegal , simple as that. If Steam , WoW or any of the other games realised that the account had been sold , or was being sold - you could be in a lot of trouble.

Also - why would I buy your "used" copy for £10 , when I can buy a new copy from Amazon for £12.99?

And the Amazon copy comes with a disk lol.

[rundeepa]

look, i didnt start the thread to discuss, eula, or whether its legal/illegal to sell this, i just thought this might be a good place to offer someone a chance to buy it a bit cheaper, £10 is cheaper than £12.99 at amazon, plus you dont have to wait for the postman, you can be playing it within the hour. had i have known it was £12.99 at amazon i would have sold it even cheaper.

but seeing as we are going down this moral road, of right and wrong, so ubi will lose out if someone buys this from me instead of them, well, ubi has lost out because if this is the fuss that gets kicked up when i try to do this, i will no longer buy their products.

lock the thread please admin

[McBeck]

Per request