Another example of why I'll never go into the deep South if I can avoid it

[Torvald Von Mansee]

http://www.policeworld.net/vb/showthread.php?t=14347

[GoldenRivet]

Well...

A. She was being a b*tch

B. The cop was being an A-Hole

C. Either the limit of your experience or the depth of your ignorance one must be VAST if you think this sort of thing only goes on in the "deep south".

:o

[CaptainHaplo]

God man - get over your racism and hatred of anyone not the same as the left coast.

"Oh my god - look - go to the deep SOUTH and get beat up by cops!"

Perhaps you would like to discuss the case of Oscar Grant - held down, punched and while held down - shot and killed. Happened more recently than your little episode - out there on the "lets all hug and get along" left coast - a little place called San Francisco...

http://www.sfbayview.com/2009/bart-officer-tony-pirone-caught-on-video-punching-oscar-grant/

At least 2 cops there - the guy on the ground - beaten and then killed - and OMG it wasn't in the deep South!!!

Bad stuff happens everywhere - and it doesn't matter what part of the country. In fact, if you really want to look at incidents of police brutality - the West Coast is going to likely have a higher incident rate per capita.

Yes - a horrible thing happened to that woman it looks like - she very likely got the crap beat out of her by a cop who got tired of her drunk lip. At least she didn't end up dead....

Have nothing better to do than try to find a cultural or geographical group you don't like and run em into the ground? Oh - but its ok as long as they don't normally agree with you.

Despicable. :nope:

[Onkel Neal]

C. Either the limit of your experience or the depth of your ignorance one must be VAST if you think this sort of thing only goes on in the "deep south".

:o

Shhh, let him wallow :shucks:

[UnderseaLcpl]

Well, you now have one more reason not to come to the deep south TvM. People there don't like being stereotyped anymore than anyone else from anywhere, and I'm sure they would react to such thinking with hostility.

I'm not trying to bash you TvM. God knows I've been just as judgemental, and subsequently wrong, on some issues. All I ask is that you step back for a moment and consider what you are opining. You're equating the behavior of one person with the behaviour of tens of millions of people based upon where they live. Furthermore, you have forgotten that many residents of the deep south once lived in the North and other regions. What you're saying is hardly better than discriminating on the basis of skin color.

In other news, the video itself is questionable in its legal credibility. When I played it, there were sections of audio missing, though that may be due to the fact that I have a poor connection tonight ( it tooke like 5 minutes to load). The woman's belligerent and irrational behaviour, in combination with drunkeness, may well have resulted in injury to herself.

Personally, I think the cop probably did hurt her, but the question remains as to whether or not it was an intentional act. As stupid as that sounds, the legal system works that way. There have been as many cases of alleged police brutality being proven false as there have been convictions of police brutality.

However, no matter what anyone thinks of the article, the video, or the pictures, there is certainly no reason to believe that this kind of incident happens more often in the South. Even if it did, there is even less evidence to corroborate the idea that such incidents are commonplace in the South simply because it is the South, right?

[Torvald Von Mansee]

So, conservative white guys (i.e., NOT black or hispanic or hippies or whatever) don't know where I'm coming from on this. Surprise?

I never said Bad Things don't happen w/cops outside the Deep South. They do!! I'm reasonably sure that it's far more likely to happen in states where authoritarianism rules, and the DS is certainly that. And it has a long and well established record of corruption in law enforcement. Once again, that doesn't mean there is no corruption anywhere else, but it seems to be on a different level in the South. I am reasonably sure I could mine numbers to back me up, but I don't care to expend the effort. You'd probably think I'm cherrypicking, anyway, and ignore it. I know I do when I'm pretty sure someone else is cherrypicking.

Freedom isn't "free to be X, Y, and Z, and everything else is persecuted."

[GoldenRivet]

Speakin' uh which, i better get muh white robe to tha cleaners an have em wash off the blood stains.

Got us a lynchin' down in Anderson county next weekend and i don' wonna be the only guy what shows up like i aint got no manners and whut not.

Gonna get muh boy to sharpen up that yonder stack of pitch forks and get us some good torches ready fur nex wensdy night too... caint have all them colored homa-sex-shulls takin over this here great state now boy ya hear?

:yawn:

TvM... you realize of course you are playing on the EXACT same level as the racist trash you claim to hate so much when you make threads like that right?

I have been fortunate enough to travel all over this country... loved something and hated something about every place i have been.

open up a little bit my precious lil flower you might learn something.

[Task Force]

Theres nothing rong in the south, just the stupid stuff that gets on the web... only difference is is some cultural stuff, and some peoples accents...

[Weiss Pinguin]

On the subject of the beating, I thought it was really interesting to read the reactions and comments posted by the other law enforcement folks.

[August]

You guys ought to cut Torvald some slack. The msm go out of their way to promote the stereotype. You can hardly blame folks for believing it.

[Seth8530]

Theres nothing rong in the south, just the stupid stuff that gets on the web... only difference is is some cultural stuff, and some peoples accents...

There aint nothin wrong with my accent :stare:


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[GoldenRivet]

You guys ought to cut Torvald some slack. The msm go out of their way to promote the stereotype. You can hardly blame folks for believing it.

Man... i climbed off of my cousin to come in here and type sumthin' clever and i dun got all the way in here and forgot whut i was gonna say

:har:

[August]

Man... i climbed off of my cousin to come in here and type sumthin' clever and i dun got all the way in here and forgot whut i was gonna say

:har:

It's why you folks lost the Civil War... :D

[Snestorm]

It would seem that in the eyes of the left, being a racist is OK, as long as you're anti-white.
(It's amazing how many people with white skin are members of that club.)

[kiwi_2005]

http://i41.tinypic.com/w0191v.jpg

:roll:

[krashkart]

Agreed, it looks like a case of excessive force. But I think it is unfair to say that that sort of thing only happens in the South. :-?

[AngusJS]

There are many good reasons not to go into the deep South, but police brutality isn't one of them - it can happen anywhere. The profession sure does seem to attract a lot of ***holes, and the lengths some policemen will go to to defend the actions of their fellow officers is astounding.

*edit*

Just watched the video.

I hope that woman sues that piece of garbage for every penny he's worth.

[CaptainHaplo]

Yes TvM - can't go looking for any statistics to back up your claim can you?

In other words - you want to be able to throw hateful, random, "racist" crap out there about a group ya don't like - but don't want to have to back it up......

A quick search of data would "learn" you quite a bit. Look at what is termed "Arrest releated death" for 2003 thru 2006 -

http://bjs.ojp.usdoj.gov/content/dcrp/tables/dcst06let7.cfm

The leading group with the most deaths? West - with California being the leader. Actually California led ALL the states in the number of arrestees who died in arrest related ways.... In fact - for this time frame - California actually had only 7 deaths less than the combined 12 states of the Midwest! If your stereotypical "them there rednecks" view was accurate - these numbers for the South would be expected to be substantially highter - but they are not. After all - the south is supposedly where a black or hispanic must fear all the white racists according to people like you. In the time span that California killed or was involved in the death of 465 arrestees - your target in the OP - Louisiana - had all of 23....(While Louisiana didn't report in 2003 - its pretty doubtful they killed 400+ people that year, then only popped one the next.)

If you look at the majority of "cop watch" websites that look to track and monitor the behavior of police - notice that they all tend to gravitate to one geographical region - the west. Where there is a problem - people make a ruckus..... Its also interesting to note that the prevalence of brutality appears to be located in areas of the highest concentration of people - aka - cities. Which is why the midwest has such a lower occurance - fewer cities with people packed like sardines.... The majority of highly populated cities - are in the west....

*Ever notice how that old show "Cops" is always in some city - never in a rural area?*

If you want to talk stereotypes - in the south we have police officers like Barney Fife and Andy Taylor - ya'll have the cops that beat up Rodney King and guys like Mark Furhman.... The South wins that game every time....

Stereotypes are exactly that - but seeing how you would rather defend your idiocy with "well don't ask me to back it up - I really don't have any statistics but this one post just reinforced all the stuff I think to be true so its all I need!" - I will keep this thread handy next time you want to complain about being stereotyped...

Maybe I won't have to use it - you might actually grow up a little.... But I ain't holding my breath.

[nikimcbee]

motion to move subsim meetin' to USS Drum

[GoldenRivet]

motion to move subsim meetin' to USS Drum

first submarine i ever paid visit to.

I was all of about 4 or 5 years old:yeah:

[TheBrauerHour]

Bad situation all around. The Cop should get investigated, and I hope justice is served.

As for the OP, judge yourself and the place you live, thank you very much. You have no right whatsoever to insult an area of the U.S. that is home to many of the SubSim users. Perhaps you could learn a lesson in tolerance. It may do you some good.

I would be ashamed if I spoke ill of others' homes like that. :down:

[CaptainHaplo]

Well don'tcha know that taking a single incident can prove a whole group of people are bad.

Take Australians for example.... I never knew they were racist cannibals - but all the proof can be found in a cookbook that calls for "fresh ground black people" to season pasta. :o

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2010/04/17/aussie-cookbook-recalled-recipe-includes-freshly-ground-black-people/?test=latestnews

Sure - everyone is claiming its a mis-print and a mistake by a computerized proof reader.... its all just a cover up!

Anything taken individually - without any documentable pattern - can be twisted into anything. TvM simply did it out of his own fear and hatred for something different from himself. Just another example of the "tolerance" the left shows...

^ - look - a stereotype! :rotfl2:

[Flopper]

I'm reasonably sure that it's far more likely to happen in states where authoritarianism rules, and the DS is certainly that.

True. South Carolina, North Korea, Chad... peas in a pod.

[Sailor Steve]

Boy, I'm sure glad I don't live in South California any more. Look at Rodney King.

And right below the video on YouTube is one labelled "Another Chicago woman beaten".

It happens, and it shouldn't. Some cops abuse their authority, and deserve whatever punishment the law can give them.

And no offense to anyone, but this looks like a blatant attempt to use one case out of a great many to point the finger at someone the poster doesn't like.

[CaptainHaplo]

Sailor Steve - you should be ashamed of yourself!

Mentioning Chicago like that! Don't you know that is where the chosen one is from - and thus nothing bad ever could happen there? Your defaming the almight o - expect the FBI at the library soon!

[Sailor Steve]

This is Utah - we've been at war with the Feds since 1857.

Besides, I gots my runnin' shoes on, and my bike out of storage, so I'm ready to hi-tail it outa here.
:rotfl2:

[GoldenRivet]

Low speed pursuit in progress as Federal officers chase what appears to be a man on a ten speed.

news at 11

[tater]

The real deep south to avoid is just south of the border. Cuidad Juarez, for example.

[jumpy]

As a britisher (and therefore, viewing this from outside), it strikes me that a region of a country with a history of 'burning ******s' less than a century ago, ought not to feel too bad or put upon because of a persistent stereotype for being 'good 'ole boys'.
Statistics are not required... they really did hang 'em from the cotton trees.

For the same reason I don't like spending a night out on the town on a friday/saturday night in most of the northern town's I've been to - coming from the midlands (and not having a northern accent) and having long hair, but not a mono-brow that has no discernible divide between the hairline, I'm more or less guaranteed a kicking because I'm 'different' and 'not from round here'. It's grim up north, and there's a very good reason for it being recognised so.

The op doesn't say 'this only happens in the south', perhaps that's the inference that some wish to take, but it didn't come across that way to me - as ever you bring only what you already have to the table. Preconceptions can be funny old things. More often than not they reveal more about you than you would perhaps choose to show sometimes.

That said, there's no monopoly on racism and bigotry (as the rare incident here at subsim will attest), but stereotypes are just that, anecdotal but rooted in the truth and not just simple prejudice, else they wouldn't become stereotypes.
But ultimately the grass is never greener on the other side of the fence; it's always the same colour and you have the same chance of stepping in something wet and soft that leaves a smell you just can't seem to get out of your carpet, no matter where you go.

Regarding the footage, it certainly looks excessive - either she was a lot more aggravated and willing to self harm than the film lets on, or she got a good pasting from the only other people there. Whatever the case, the camera shouldn't have been turned off, if only to refute or corroborate police version of events.
Here in the UK (as far as I'm aware) when you are detained by the police, they then assume a 'duty of care' over you which extends to not kicking your face in, or ensuring that you cannot harm yourself - for their protection as well as yours, physically.
I'd say it's a good bet the cop gave her a beating, but if he had any reason to suspect she might hurt herself, then he should have covered his arse in an appropriate manner, either by leaving the camera recording or leaving the woman with another police officer present. All in all that was handled badly from where I'm looking.

However, I always think it's important to remember that if the police arrest you, keep you mouth shut and behave; they are not acting for your best interests, and until you establish where you stand in relation to what you may or may not be getting charged with after consulting with your brief, DO NOT TALK TO THEM OR VOLUNTEER INFORMATION, save to confirm your identity. Even if you haven't done anything wrong, but especially if you think you have.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wXkI4t7nuc this relates to the US better than the UK, as this labour government signed away our right to silence as a tacit admission of guilt... but there you go. Just because not everyone is out to get you, doesn't mean that some of them aren't. :)

[GoldenRivet]

they really did hang 'em from the cotton trees.

you would have to find a pretty short guy to hang him in a "cotton tree"

http://www.frontierspinning.com/locations/photo_tour/images/01-DSCN2966.2.jpg

considering they are just a little over knee high and all

Besides.

The "****** burning" as you so bluntly put it, has pretty much subsided here in the last hundred+ years.

Unless you travel to the most rural areas of the smallest towns in the southern united states... you are more likely to encounter people wearing a suit and tie, or polo shirts and khaki pants than you are to find some guy in a wife beater drinking beer on his front porch.

EDIT:

in fact, if it were not for the cars with the state plates - i doubt anyone could drive around virtually any given neighborhood or urban area in Texas, Alabama, Mississippi etc and tell it apart from an Urban area or Neighborhood in any part of the northern United States

[nikimcbee]

This is Utah - we've been at war with the Feds since 1857.

Besides, I gots my runnin' shoes on, and my bike out of storage, so I'm ready to hi-tail it outa here.
:rotfl2:

:haha:

[tater]

Jumpy, shall we assume you similarly avoid Germany? They shoveled lime over rather more people there than anyone ever hanged from a tree (or small bush) in the US South.

As a New Englander, I grew up not liking the South much. That said, I'd be willing to bet that current race relations in the US South are pretty good compared to most places on Earth.

How're those "youths" doing in France that we hear about burning cars?

[OneToughHerring]

They got those 'bubba'-cops down there in the south. They don't like no east coast intellectuals telling 'em how to do any pho-li-cing. :)

[tater]

How many times was that Jamaican guy shot in NYC? 43?

The US south is no more "authoritarian" than anywhere else. Shall we also assume that OP is in favor of the devolution of power to avoid authoritarianism, which only thrives with strong, centralized control by the State? ;)

[GoldenRivet]

To be perfectly honest, every one of my encounters with police officers - except for two - has revealed them to be true professionals.

one negative encounters occurred in Kenner, Louisiana... where the officer walked up to my car, and only said "Drivers license and proof of insurance"

I handed them to him, he attached them to his clip board, spit on his middle finger and "cleaned" the dirt from over my VIN# on the windshield and walked off to his car - all without any other words other than the original "Driver's license and proof of insurance"

when he returned he had a ticket

"sign here, call this number within 10 days"

i signed it and with no further words he went to his car and drove off

of course... this was a black cop - so sure, i guess it could have been racism (oh wait... theres no such thing as racism against white people, i forgot)

the second negative encounter happened in Barnstable, Mass

this was the longest running traffic stop in history as we were pulled over for some 30 - 40 minutes as the cop checked every light on the vehicle, checked out our IDs, and went through every possible infraction he could think of before determining we were guilty of nothing and letting us go.

He was not particularly "mean" - just ... what you might call "Chicken sh*t"

[Wolfehunter]

I can assure you it happens to the north too. I'm sure it happens everywhere. But hey that is the way its been going on for a long time. This isn't new news.

:nope:

[krashkart]

As a britisher (and therefore, viewing this from outside), it strikes me that a region of a country with a history of 'burning ******s' less than a century ago, ought not to feel too bad or put upon because of a persistent stereotype for being 'good 'ole boys'.
Statistics are not required... they really did hang 'em from the cotton trees.


:hmmm:




:har::har::har:

[nikimcbee]

Actually you don't to be mentally ill in Portland, or-gone. They've had several fatal police shootings in the last few months. Jessie Jackson even came to protest.:har: Which was really funny because he called the city racist:har::har::har:. Those jack-booted greenies like to kill to ya know.:arrgh!:

[Task Force]

Hmm, it appears that everyone goes on with Stereotypes... I guess most havent even been to the south.

[Flopper]

As a britisher (and therefore, viewing this from outside), it strikes me that a region of a country with a history of 'burning ******s' less than a century ago, ought not to feel too bad or put upon because of a persistent stereotype for being 'good 'ole boys'.
Statistics are not required... they really did hang 'em from the cotton trees.

Well, I'm from the south, and this statement infurates me. My first best friend was a black kid named Ronald. My familiy has an Irish background, so I bid you... "Bite my potatoes."

[jumpy]

ok, for the pedants amongst you I'll be more specific:
Cottonwood tree; genus populus. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Populus_sect._Aegiros

Predictably, some of you also fell for the stereotype and totally failed to see what came next, or my train of thought that followed the line of what the 'stereotype' was all about, and not to pay it much attention, given that it is a 'stereotype' and though based in some truth, anyone with half a brain knows a stereotype for what it is... or do I need to post the dictionary definition of 'stereotype' also, and how it applies here?

has pretty much subsided here in the last hundred+ years.
I see you don't discount it completely then.

My point was about how the south regards it as unfair (as I understood the situation) to be stereotyped as racist rednecks, when they have a past in which they were exactly that - there was a civil war over (in part) wanting to keep blacks as slaves, as 'untermenschen', with the south demanding that right, was there not?.
Just because these things don't really happen any more now, does not make a stereotype any less valid. My intent was not to make 'the south' out to be some sort of evil place we should all shun and revile above or beyond any other place, as backward and lacking in basic humanity, but to highlight the history of the region and use that to illustrate a point about how people make generalisations based upon truth and in part, irony, and how that relates to the original article and the film posted on youtube and subsequent comments posted both here and in the forum/article linked that we all read.

Surely you can see that (surely you can see that now?) I was not expressing a personal opinion or judgement of the region or its people, but making an observation of its history as it had bearing to the topic?

That goes for you too Flopper.

Clearly there's some quite raw nerves concerning segregation/racism in American history, I suspect the same as there are about the windrush era in the UK and also the influx of pakistani/indian migrants to the UK and today's issues of the BNP and immigration.
I had a mate who once told me that he wasn't a racist, "because one of my best friends is a 'paki'." He never could see what I found slightly objectionable to that statement. But I, like all of you, don't make a distinction over whether or not a friend has a specific skin colour or ethnic background, they are just 'friends'.
I strongly suspect that levels of indignation demonstrated here, stem from that very fact we have in common.

shall we assume you similarly avoid Germany?

Tater, I think I'm missing something, what do the Germans or the holocaust have to do with parochial northern english towns, where if you're not a 'northerner' you stand a good chance of getting a pasting just because you come from somewhere else and talk/look different?
Or are you inferring that the mechanised murder of millions of innocents is somehow more dastardly than the killing of a few 'slaves'?
I once made a comparison between hitler and stalin and the numbers of people they each had murdered, it made sense at the time as the disparity between the numbers of his own people stalin had 'removed' and those hitler had 'solved', but murder is still murder. The same as there's no real difference between the loss of the life of a child compared to an adult. A life is lost. It's just the perception that a child has more of a future to loose and is therefore somehow more precious.
But I digress, possibly a little confrontationally too, and for that I apologise.

Generally speaking I try to avoid anyone who thinks it's ok to take aggressive action towards an individual or group, just because they are different, either by race/colour or culture or by local or national or other geographic separation. You know the sort: you're minding your own business when you get challenged/accosted by someone who wants to fight you for no clear reason you can understand. Unless you actually want to fight them, no amount of politeness or reasoning will delay the inevitable confrontation, so it's best to learn to avoid such situations before they develop.

Misunderstanding often leads to the same thing... but you have to risk that once in a while or you'd never talk to anyone ever again. :hmm2:

[Flopper]

Just because these things don't really happen any more now, does not make a stereotype any less valid.


Now we're talking about valid stereotypes, smart guy?

[Snestorm]

Now we're talking about valid stereotypes, smart guy?

For every situation, there are rules.
For every rule, there are exceptions.

[jumpy]

Flopper, you go right ahead and see what you want to see.
I've tried to be polite and explain my intent in a civil manner in order to show there is no ill regard where it is perhaps not immediately clear.
If your only recourse to that is to tell me to bite your balls, right from the outset, then I'll oblige, but with one proviso: I first remove them with a spoon.

:O:

I'm only joking fella.

But seriously, if you cannot see what I'm trying to say, don't engage me with insults because you feel that I'm somehow trying to do the same (I get that impression from you).

I'm not. Far from it. Why else would I go through the trouble to attempt to explain myself in my last post? Certainly not to elicit abuse from you, or anyone else for that matter.

[Aramike]

You know, the very concept of this thread's title screams ignorance.

How about this: how about we all post singular, isolated examples of bad things that has happened recently in some region, than go on to expand them into large generalizations to justify a rationale of wishing to avoid said region.

:down:

[Flopper]

Flopper, you go right ahead and see what you want to see.
I've tried to be polite and explain my intent in a civil manner in order to show there is no ill regard where it is perhaps not immediately clear.
If your only recourse to that is to tell me to bite your balls, right from the outset, then I'll oblige, but with one proviso: I first remove them with a spoon.

:O:

I'm only joking fella.

But seriously, if you cannot see what I'm trying to say, don't engage me with insults because you feel that I'm somehow trying to do the same (I get that impression from you).

I'm not. Far from it. Why else would I go through the trouble to attempt to explain myself in my last post? Certainly not to elicit abuse from you, or anyone else for that matter.

Tates, I said! And good luck with that proviso. :haha:

Points made, PERHAPS, and time to move on, I believe.

[Flopper]

You know, the very concept of this thread's title screams ignorance.

How about this: how about we all post singular, isolated examples of bad things that has happened recently in some region, than go on to expand them into large generalizations to justify a rationale of wishing to avoid said region.

:down:

Amen.

[jumpy]

Tates, I said! And good luck with that proviso. :haha:

Points made, PERHAPS, and time to move on, I believe.

lol no worries fella, my mistake :up:
marris pipers, or king edwards then? Good for roasties or a stew.
:arrgh!: you got me thinking now...
Bah! perhaps 02:05 on monday morning is the wrong time for thinking about cooking a roast dinner.

[Flopper]

lol no worries fella, my mistake :up:
marris pipers, or king edwards then? Good for roasties or a stew.
:arrgh!: you got me thinking now...
Bah! perhaps 02:05 on monday morning is the wrong time for thinking about cooking a roast dinner.

Yes, you don't want to wake up at 5:45 to the sound of the smoke alarm, and the whole house covered in ash. Have some chips instead, or what are they over there... crisps?

[jumpy]

Hah! been there done that - lesson learned, leave drinking the wine until the food is ready. Those little smoky carbon things in the bottom of the oven looked so forlorn, once the billowing fumes had cleared at any rate.
yer 'chips' is where it's at. I think I've got some of those potato wedge oven chips in the freezer.
potato chips is what you guys call crisps, right? Like er.. dorritos (nachos) but potato instead of flavoured corn snacks?

[krashkart]

Chips are made of corn or potato, thinly sliced (in the case of potatos) that we cram into our faces, unless you're in Vegas in which case the chips are an inedible, nutrition-less currency. Nachos, on the other hand, are not nachos without refried beans, jalapenos, diced tomatoes, cheese, sour cream, guacamole, and sliced black olives... although one can save themselves the trouble by visiting a convenience store and drizzling orangey-yellow processed cheese sauce over a pile of corn chips. Bon apetite! :DL

Chips are french fries in your neck of the woods, aren't they? :06:

[nikimcbee]

Chips are made of corn or potato, thinly sliced (in the case of potatos) that we cram into our faces, unless you're in Vegas in which case the chips are an inedible currency. Nachos, on the other hand, are not nachos without refried beans, jalapenos, diced tomatoes, cheese, sour cream, guacamole, and sliced black olives... although one can save themselves the trouble by visiting a convenience store and drizzling orangey-yellow processed cheese sauce over a pile of corn chips. Bon apetite! :DL

Chips are french fries in your neck of the woods, aren't they? :06:

hhmm nachos...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PgV6RHpo-Us

[Sledgehammer427]

from a police beating, to stereotypes...to nachos?

sounds like a YouTube flame war I've seen far too often.

Like, watching a video about yuri gagarin and scrolling down to read the latest hypothesis on 9/11 :nope:

needless to say though, I like nachos. :D
OH! and 99cent chicken burritos from Taco Bell

[jumpy]

Chips are just about anything made of corn or potato that we can cram into our faces, unless you're in Vegas in which case the chips are an inedible currency. Nachos, on the other hand, are not nachos without refried beans, jalapenos, diced tomatoes, cheese, sour cream, guacamole, and sliced black olives... although one can save themselves the trouble by visiting a convenience store and drizzling orangey-yellow processed cheese sauce over a pile of corn chips. Bon apetite! :DL

Chips are french fries in your neck of the woods, aren't they? :06:

mmm processed cheese sauce drizzle...

Yer, french fries are 'chips' over here, but with one slight difference: Chips are generally thick sliced, manly sized fried potato slices, whereas french fries is what you get with a MacyDee, being thin sliced and covered in loads of salt. Both of which would go down a treat right now hehe.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5kewcC7uaw mmmmm scacrelicious.

[krashkart]

mmm processed cheese sauce drizzle...

Yer, french fries are 'chips' over here, but with one slight difference: Chips are generally thick sliced, manly sized fried potato slices, whereas french fries is what you get with a MacyDee, being thin sliced and covered in loads of salt. Both of which would go down a treat right now hehe.

:woot:

So then "Fish and Chips" would be "Fish and Tater Wedges" here. Hrm... sounds kinda good right now, actually. :DL

Just out of curiosity, how much is a liter of fuel going for over there these days? I got into a discussion about this on a different forum back in '03 after the Leeroy Jenkins Affair started. Leeroy Jenkins... rofl. That still cracks me up. :rotfl2:

Anyway, at the time I estimated that a gallon of fuel over there would cost approx. 12-15 dollars US, and then wondered why I was whining about the $2 or so that it cost me.

[jumpy]

http://www.petrolprices.com/

I'm not sure what the difference between a US gallon and an imperial gallon is, but the last time I filled up (a couple of weeks back - I shopped around to find the cheapest filling station as prices can vary as much as 2 ppl depending on the outlet) it was 115.9 pence per litre. I put 60 quids worth of diesel into the tank and got just over 51 litres, or thereabouts. The .9 decimal figure confuses the issue.
I've not filled the tank full to the brim (89 litres) for more than a year now.
They say the price of a barrel of oil has gone down, but our fuel prices only go up... the excuse this time is that sterling is not worth much right now.
We've just had the annual budget here, when they were due to increase the duty (tax to the government) on all fuel by 3 pence per litre.
http://www.petrolprices.com/fuel-tax.html
http://www.petrolprices.com/price-of-petrol.html

:down: booo-hiss

[nikimcbee]

mmm processed cheese sauce drizzle...



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5kewcC7uaw mmmmm scacrelicious.

mmmmm Beer battered Germans.:har:

[GoldenRivet]

This was too good not to share.

So im sitting here at the computer looking through my business ledger double checking to make sure all the fuel and maintenance invoices have been entered, which got me to thinking... Did any bills come in yesterday?

as i had not checked the mail, I asked my wife if she had.

She slaps down in front of me 2 envelopes addressed to my business and a black shrink wrapped magazine.

this can only mean one thing.

I toss the bills into the in box and rip open the plastic, revealing the pleasant odor of a freshly opened May 2010 Playboy.

So, first things first: Playboy's party Jokes

A few zingers... like "Two rednecks were fishing together, one asked the other 'If i sleep with your wife would that make us relatives?' the other replied 'nope... it'd make us even though."

ok... second things second: Cartoons

A couple of neat ones.

Third things third! find an article that appeals to me:

So what do my eyes behold?

"Area Two" by Hillel Levin and John Conroy

Area Two reports the story of Police Lieutenant Jon Burge (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon_Burge) who was responsible for numerous unspeakable torture incedents in the late seventies and early eighties.

where did all of this take place?

The Area Two in the title refers to a 60 square mile area of Southern Chicago, Illinois where Lieutenant Job Burge held command.

I guess i have another reason never to go to Chicago if i can avoid it. :DL

cause surely all the cops there torture people.







right? :06:

[nikimcbee]

Was that the braille version or the regular one?:hmmm:

[GoldenRivet]

Was that the braille version or the regular one?:hmmm:


regular lol

[nikimcbee]

here's the braille penthouse letters
http://www.omniglot.com/images/langsamples/udhr_braille.gif

[Castout]

Sue the god damn cop. Put him behind bars

[SteamWake]

here's the braille penthouse letters
http://www.omniglot.com/images/langsamples/udhr_braille.gif

Hrm. Doesent work.. its all smooth and stuff :wah:

[August]

here's the braille penthouse letters



Damn man, that's nasty! :DL

[tater]

Jumpy, I was only trying to point out that in your post you mentioned the history of lynching in the South as if that mattered NOW. As such, I asked about Germany. They used to lynch people in the South, and they used to murder people in germany, too.

I was trying to make a level-headed analogy, hard in type, easier over a pint. :)

In general, the OP anecdote is just that. I think that without some statistics to back up a claim of worse behavior in "the south" the OP post has no real value other than pointing out a single, bad episode.

[Sailor Steve]

Low speed pursuit in progress as Federal officers chase what appears to be a man on a ten speed.

news at 11
You callin' me cheap? Is that a slam on Utah? I gots me a twenty-one speed bike. Of course only fifteen of 'em work. And it cost me a whopping thirty bucks.

[sharkbit]

This was too good not to share.

So im sitting here at the computer looking through my business ledger double checking to make sure all the fuel and maintenance invoices have been entered, which got me to thinking... Did any bills come in yesterday?

as i had not checked the mail, I asked my wife if she had.

She slaps down in front of me 2 envelopes addressed to my business and a black shrink wrapped magazine.

this can only mean one thing.

I toss the bills into the in box and rip open the plastic, revealing the pleasant odor of a freshly opened May 2010 Playboy.

So, first things first: Playboy's party Jokes

A few zingers... like "Two rednecks were fishing together, one asked the other 'If i sleep with your wife would that make us relatives?' the other replied 'nope... it'd make us even though."

ok... second things second: Cartoons

A couple of neat ones.

Third things third! find an article that appeals to me:

So what do my eyes behold?

"Area Two" by Hillel Levin and John Conroy

Area Two reports the story of Police Lieutenant Jon Burge (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon_Burge) who was responsible for numerous unspeakable torture incedents in the late seventies and early eighties.

where did all of this take place?

The Area Two in the title refers to a 60 square mile area of Southern Chicago, Illinois where Lieutenant Job Burge held command.

I guess i have another reason never to go to Chicago if i can avoid it. :DL

cause surely all the cops there torture people.







right? :06:

So...ummmm.....you really do get Playboy for the articles? :hmmm:

:D

[GoldenRivet]

You callin' me cheap? Is that a slam on Utah? I gots me a twenty-one speed bike. Of course only fifteen of 'em work. And it cost me a whopping thirty bucks.

Here is the news at 11 Steve - as the details flesh in im sure you will feel much better about yourself and your bike :D

News Desk Guy Kevin: "A low speed pursuit quickly escalates in Utah today as a crazed man in a tattered Monkey Rum shirt is still attempting to outpace police interceptors while riding a bike (chuckles)."

News Desk Gal Sarah: "Thats right kevin, and reporting live from the scene is our news nine helicopter reporter Tammy.... Tammy?"

Chopper Tammy: "Thank you and good evening Sarah. Adrenaline, Insanity, Sweat and primal rage greet you on the 215 belt way this evening as a gentleman with a crazed look in his eye easily outpaces officers on a bicycle"

News Desk Guy Kevin: "Now, Tammy, its our understanding that this isn't any ordinary bike, can you give us some details on that."

Chopper Tammy: "Sure Kevin... if i could, you see the bike is mostly a blur... i mean this guy is fast. I spoke with police earlier and according to officers who initiated the pursuit but have since had their cruisers run out of fuel after the 5th lap around the 215 beltway - they said that they simply approached the man to ask him where he got such a 'sweet... kick ass 21 speed bike', but the man ran to the bike, hopped on and began peddling furiously and thats how this all began."

News Desk Gal Sarah: "Any indication as to why the man ran?"

Chopper Tammy: "Well Sarah, early indications are that the suspects name is Steve Bradfield... this is however unconfirmed, but at this point authorities really dont know why the U.S. Navy Retiree has decided to run from the law, especially in the manner he has chosen."

News Desk Guy Kevin: "Tammy, does he show any signs of slowing down?"

Chopper Tammy: "Not a chance Kevin, Mr. Bradfield has been leading this pursuit for a number of hours now, his stamina is amazing quite honestly. He has attempted a number of feints to try and throw police off his tracks... over the past several minutes for example he has performed at least 10 wheelies, on one occasion about an hour ago he actually seat surfed the bike, but nearly lost control of the bike in the process... he has yet to attempted any further seat surfing. He is really just toying with police."

News Desk Gal Sarah: "Any idea what his motive or intent is?"

Chopper Tammy: "None Sarah... Police are disparately trying to avoid a 'Jon Rambo Scenario'... police fear that Mr. Bradfield may be experiencing delayed Post traumatic stress syndrome as he recalls a navy life of eating sh*t on a shingle scrubbing toilets for months at a time. There is currently no indication that Mr. Bradfield had any special warfare training during his time in the Navy... but those are the very guys you have to worry about police specialists are saying."

News Desk Gal Sara: "Thanks for the fine reporting Tammy, keep us updated and stay safe up there!"

Chopper Tammy: Thank you kevin... sarah... I have just been informed that we will be leaving the scene momentarily to refuel the helicopter... again. news Chopper Nine reporting live.


you really do get Playboy for the articles? :hmmm:

:D

Well the hot ladies are a major selling point.

But it is true, Playboy has some great reading in there. Jokes, Interviews, Articles, gadget - film - game reviews and recommendations etc etc.

Its Maxim Magazine for grown men

[Sailor Steve]

Curse you, GR! The reality is I got the bike out of storage intending to take it on the train and ride the last two miles to band practice. While I was leaving the University of Utah I went down a little hill to a sidewalk, and only noticed that there were steps far too late. I went over the handlebars, scraping my elbow and the back of my hand and bruising my ribs. The good news is that my brand new helmet is scratched up and my head isn't.

After that I rode all nine miles to practice. I took the train back downtown, put the bike back in storage and probably won't ride it again for at least a week.

Curse you why? Because the scrapes don't hurt at all but the ribs are hurting pretty good every time I cough, sneeze...or laugh. And you had me laughing there. And hurting.:stare::rotfl2::stare:

[jumpy]

Jumpy, I was only trying to point out that in your post you mentioned the history of lynching in the South as if that mattered NOW. As such, I asked about Germany. They used to lynch people in the South, and they used to murder people in germany, too.

I was trying to make a level-headed analogy, hard in type, easier over a pint. :)


I hear that. I think everyone is on the same page here, pretty much :DL Put it down to being a late night for me and getting the bit between my teeth :oops:

Still, from where everything started, to be ending up considering the relative differences between nachos/dorrito's, chips vs french fries and finally penthouse in braille... once again everything turned out peachy (or should that be 'processed cheese sauce drizzly'?) here in GT :woot:

[Flopper]

I hear that. I think everyone is on the same page here, pretty much :DL Put it down to being a late night for me and getting the bit between my teeth :oops:

Still, from where everything started, to be ending up considering the relative differences between nachos/dorrito's, chips vs french fries and finally penthouse in braille... once again everything turned out peachy (or should that be 'processed cheese sauce drizzly'?) here in GT :woot:

Yes, it was quite a remarkable transition, I thought. Hostile to civil to downright friendly, that quickly... you don't see that every day. :salute: