No turtles?

[schlechter pfennig]

In all the years I've played SHIII (and all the different mods, although tis mostly been GWX) I've never seen any ship capsize, roll over and 'turn turtle'. Is there something about the ship models/behavior that makes that impossible?

[krashkart]

That is a really good question. I've never seen that happen in the sim either. :hmmm:

[Jankowski]

it happens sometimes on the big ships, i have seen it in stock and i think i have seen it in gwx

[frau kaleun]

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=1257572&postcount=7496

[schlechter pfennig]

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=1257572&postcount=7496

Danke!! :)

[krashkart]

Ah, frau kaleun. Resourceful as ever. :) *bow*

[frau kaleun]

*sigh*

maybe someday I'll sink a ship big enough to do that. :D

[Kapt Z]

It's rare, but I have seen it happen. I think three times in all my careers.

[AgentToreno]

Wow those pics! What a show!

Warships put the fear in me, so I don't think I'll be seeing one belly-up in my game. When the SO barks out a warship bearing, I get the same feeling Resident Evil gave me when a zombie busts through a window panel. Goosebumps and everything.

[Jimbuna]

Ah, frau kaleun. Resourceful as ever. :) *bow*

*sigh*

maybe someday I'll sink a ship big enough to do that. :D

Guess who was awarded the medals though :smug:

[frau kaleun]

Guess who was awarded the medals though :smug:

:hmmm:

Steed. No? TarJak, then. No?

:hmmm:

Sailor Steve? Steamwake? Dowly? We know it wasn't krashkart.

C'mon, mensch, don't keep us in suspense all day.

:O:

[pickinthebanjo]

Wow those pics! What a show!

Warships put the fear in me, so I don't think I'll be seeing one belly-up in my game. When the SO barks out a warship bearing, I get the same feeling Resident Evil gave me when a zombie busts through a window panel. Goosebumps and everything.

I remember chasing a destroyer at flank speed once because I had not seen anything in close to a month, it led me back to a task force of 4 revenge battleships and several destroyers. Somehow I made it out of there without being attacked though.

What puts the fear in me is when you see a plane real close to shore and then remember you can't dive. After that first one about ten min. past and all of a sudden waves of them came at me. I had a XXI and the auto's were firing away but we got hit by at least 3 500lb bombs and down we went.

[schlechter pfennig]

What puts the fear in me is when you see a plane real close to shore and then remember you can't dive. After that first one about ten min. past and all of a sudden waves of them came at me. I had a XXI and the auto's were firing away but we got hit by at least 3 500lb bombs and down we went.

Could be much worse: at least the game permits you to dive even if you're in the middle of transferring an external torpedo inside. Imagine the absolute fun it would be if you spotted an airplane but couldn't dive at all (like it really was like) until you'd finished the transfer!

[AgentToreno]

Could be much worse: at least the game permits you to dive even if you're in the middle of transferring an external torpedo inside. Imagine the absolute fun it would be if you spotted an airplane but couldn't dive at all (like it really was like) until you'd finished the transfer!

That sounds like a cool modification to try. Can dive commands be delayed or disabled temporarily when certain actions are in progress, like transferring torps?

[schlechter pfennig]

*sigh*

maybe someday I'll sink a ship big enough to do that. :D

You hoo-doo-ed me. :(

I was returning from my patrol with a single torp in the bow tube and one in the stern, when I ran across a task force. It had the HMS Warsprite, a 56 tonner! :rock:

I managed to creep on the surface to within 3000 meters and fire my one bow torp, and hit her square on . . . and she just shrugged it off and kept sailing on. :wah:

[Madox58]

That sounds like a cool modification to try. Can dive commands be delayed or disabled temporarily when certain actions are in progress, like transferring torps?

Maybe through modification to the statemachine controllers stuff?
:hmmm:

[schlechter pfennig]

That sounds like a cool modification to try. Can dive commands be delayed or disabled temporarily when certain actions are in progress, like transferring torps?

Maybe through modification to the statemachine controllers stuff?
:hmmm:

Now if we could also control only being able to transfer torpedos when you're at dead stop and the weather is 7mps or less . . . :D I already do that myself: I only transfer when I'm at dead stop and the weather is calm. But, erm . . . :oops: I have to admit I've dove when in the middle of transferring. Never occurred to me before that a U-boat wasn't able to do so. Owell, from now on I'll make sure to be even more careful when transferring.

[frau kaleun]

You hoo-doo-ed me. :(

I dunno who do da hoo-doo, but me no do no voodoo.

[pickinthebanjo]

Could be much worse: at least the game permits you to dive even if you're in the middle of transferring an external torpedo inside. Imagine the absolute fun it would be if you spotted an airplane but couldn't dive at all (like it really was like) until you'd finished the transfer!

I follow that as a rule if I'm loading a torpedo I don't dive

[Snestorm]

I follow that as a rule if I'm loading a torpedo I don't dive

Agreed.
Sometimes a Self Imposed Restriction works just as well as a mod.

(I don't carry externals.)

[Jimbuna]

Agreed.
Sometimes a Self Imposed Restriction works just as well as a mod.

(I don't carry externals.)


That is all we've ever had....'Self Imposed Restrictions'

[sergei]

Like others here I only transfer all all stop in calm weather.
Never been caught during a transfer.

What do others do if caught on the surface in the middle of a transfer?

Stay on the surface and fight it out?
Or dive, then later eject the torpedo, on the basis that you'd abandoned it during the panic?

[krashkart]

We know it wasn't krashkart.

You know, the folks in Portsmouth were a kind lot - if not a bit strange. After they'd beaten the tar out of us we were given a parade down main street. Perhaps the sight of our mighty Uboat rising up from the water and slamming into the beach was a sign of good luck or something? Maybe their crops will grow better now. :hmmm:

Their medical staff are superb, btw. :yeah:

But for some odd reason they wouldn't allow us to see our boat again. I'd even asked if there was a mechanic in town that could help us repair the hull damage, but the soldiers laughed at me. I'm a Kaleun, not a comedian. :-?

Just one question: we were put into these little rooms with bars around them. Do they put all kinds of people in these little zoos or just Germans?


;):D

[Jimbuna]

You know, the folks in Portsmouth were a kind lot - if not a bit strange. After they'd beaten the tar out of us we were given a parade down main street. Perhaps the sight of our mighty Uboat rising up from the water and slamming into the beach was a sign of good luck or something? Maybe their crops will grow better now. :hmmm:

Their medical staff are superb, btw. :yeah:

But for some odd reason they wouldn't allow us to see our boat again. I'd even asked if there was a mechanic in town that could help us repair the hull damage, but the soldiers laughed at me. I'm a Kaleun, not a comedian. :-?

Just one question: we were put into these little rooms with bars around them. Do they put all kinds of people in these little zoos or just Germans?


;):D

LOL :DL

[schlechter pfennig]

Like others here I only transfer all all stop in calm weather.
Never been caught during a transfer.

What do others do if caught on the surface in the middle of a transfer?

Stay on the surface and fight it out?
Or dive, then later eject the torpedo, on the basis that you'd abandoned it during the panic?


Well, although I've never transferred except in calm weather and all stop, I have dove on the rare occasion I've been spotted. But not after 2 weeks ago, when I'd done some reading and learned that it was impossible for a U-boat to dive once they'd started until they'd finished.

Once I'd read that and took a moment or two to consider things that made dreadfully obvious sense. :oops: The only way to get the torpedo inside, after all, is to open up the forward (or aft) loading hatch to inside, and if the torpedo's half-in half-out, well . . . doesn't make for a very water-tight pressure hull. :O:

So, since I'd read that, I've chosen to no longer dive, no matter what. Makes choosing when/where/how I transfer a lot more, hmmmm . . . tactical. :D And also makes me highly desirous of having more flak guns and very motivated flak gunners!

[frau kaleun]

Just one question: we were put into these little rooms with bars around them. Do they put all kinds of people in these little zoos or just Germans?
;):D

:rotfl2:

[LGN1]

Hi,

I once read that even loading internal torps in all but very calm conditions was not possible. You had to dive and load submerged. Another self-imposed constraint :yep:

Cheers.

[krashkart]

You know, that's an interesting bit of info. :hmmm:

[Snestorm]

Hi,

I once read that even loading internal torps in all but very calm conditions was not possible. You had to dive and load submerged. Another self-imposed constraint :yep:

Cheers.

Yep. I use that one.

[Jimbuna]

You know, that's an interesting bit of info. :hmmm:

Here are a few pictures of loading and transferring torpedoes...a doctor even.

In the bottom shot you'll see the boat 'decks awash' to aid the process operation.

http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/6505/img01qt.jpg (http://img24.imageshack.us/i/img01qt.jpg/)

http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/6052/img02cs.jpg (http://img23.imageshack.us/i/img02cs.jpg/)

http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/6702/img003s.jpg (http://img72.imageshack.us/i/img003s.jpg/)

http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/1553/img004wq.jpg (http://img405.imageshack.us/i/img004wq.jpg/)

http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/5360/img005jw.jpg (http://img85.imageshack.us/i/img005jw.jpg/)

http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/9249/img006k.jpg (http://img706.imageshack.us/i/img006k.jpg/)

[Snestorm]

Great pics, Hr Jimbuna.
Thanks for sharing.

[sergei]

Good pics Jimbuna.
Certainly no small procedure.

What book are they from?

[krashkart]

Jeez, and I thought paving was arduous. :hmmm:

In related news, I confirmed for myself that ships do turn turtle in the sim. :DL

Unfortunately, all the screenshots I took in the twenty-three minutes from torpedo impacts to ship capsizing were all solid black, and I have no way of showing off my handiwork! Murphy's Law strikes again. :damn: :wah:

[timmy41]

the rodney turtled when i put 4 magnetics under her starboard side past the torp belt.

[Jimbuna]

Great pics, Hr Jimbuna.
Thanks for sharing.

Good pics Jimbuna.
Certainly no small procedure.

What book are they from?

BOOK!! :o

I WAS THERE!! :stare:


http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/8231/pinocchioij91.gif

:DL

They're scanned out of my volume:

Ubootwaffe, Marine - Kleinkampverbande 1939-1945 by Waldemer Trojca.

Scroll abot 3/4 way down then click on the book cover picture.

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=de&u=http://www.modellversium.de/presse/buecher.php&sa=X&oi=translate&resnum=8&ct=result&prev=/search%3Fq%3DTrojca,%2BW.:%2BUbootwaffe,%2BMarine% 2BKleinkampfverb%25C3%25A4nde%2B1939-1945%2B%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DG

[Jimbuna]

Jeez, and I thought paving was arduous. :hmmm:

In related news, I confirmed for myself that ships do turn turtle in the sim. :DL

Unfortunately, all the screenshots I took in the twenty-three minutes from torpedo impacts to ship capsizing were all solid black, and I have no way of showing off my handiwork! Murphy's Law strikes again. :damn: :wah:

the rodney turtled when i put 4 magnetics under her starboard side past the torp belt.


Pictures, or it didn't happen :smug: