Could you see underwater with a real periscope?

[maillemaker]

In real life could you see underwater through a periscope like you can in game?

Steve

[timmy41]

yes

[Hitman]

Yes, but not very far and only when the depth was moderate (Otherwise no light in the surroundings)

[PappyCain]

In game water visibility is always good. In real life it is not.

:salute:

[maillemaker]

Well good I don't feel so bad about sneaking a peak and seeing how the depth charges are laying about me then. :)

Steve

[Sailor Steve]

I doubt you could see something that small at any distance. I don't recall reading that anyone ever used the periscope for underwater spotting.

I set my water fog (or whatever it's called) for '2', so I can barely see the end of the boat.

[geosub1978]

Yes, but not too far. Less than up to the bow. It depends on the plangton and the depth, the clarity in general, not so much from sea state.

[Paul Riley]

I doubt you could see something that small at any distance. I don't recall reading that anyone ever used the periscope for underwater spotting.

I set my water fog (or whatever it's called) for '2', so I can barely see the end of the boat.

Coupled with the fact that underwater its practically pitch black (even in daylight) with GWX,even close to the surface.I actually liked the thicker,murkier water in the stock game.Whats your take on this Steve,why the GWX developers opted for a black underwater environment? :hmmm:
My water transparency is set at 10,can just see past the bow,but not too far.I must admit,I sometimes like to peek above the boat at the waves to get an idea of the weather before surfacing.

[Immelman]

In real life past 30m you wouldn't be able to raise the PS to begin with, the pressure is too high, it was not designed for use at such depth and even if you did somehow raise it you wouldn't be able to turn it for the same reason. Also you do not want to do any such thing. You want it to stay in its well safe and sound when deeper the 30m any other position will result in flooding. The deeper you are the more severe the flooding. (this is for you people that forget their scopes up after a submerged attack)

Maximum usable depth is maybe 25m and even then it will be hard to see and hard to turn it. Also when using PS do not exceed 5-6kts since in real life it would be bent backwards by the water resistance.

:down: Down scope!

[geosub1978]

Of course there are safety interlocks for all the masts speed-depth depended, that can be overriden.

[LostDream]

Coupled with the fact that underwater its practically pitch black (even in daylight) with GWX,even close to the surface.I actually liked the thicker,murkier water in the stock game.Whats your take on this Steve,why the GWX developers opted for a black underwater environment? :hmmm:
My water transparency is set at 10,can just see past the bow,but not too far.I must admit,I sometimes like to peek above the boat at the waves to get an idea of the weather before surfacing.

Where are you guys finding the water transparency setting? Or is it a Mod for SH3 that I dont have yet?

So far running GWX and a couple of others but nothing that would let me change the transparency of the ocean.

[Paul Riley]

Where are you guys finding the water transparency setting? Or is it a Mod for SH3 that I dont have yet?

So far running GWX and a couple of others but nothing that would let me change the transparency of the ocean.

You need to download an add on pack called 'Commander' by J.Scones.
This will add extra career options to your game and also many other extras like being able to tweak water transparency,other options include being able to start your patrols already out to sea (by about 15km from port,not too far) instead of the boring crawl through your home port,and choose your own patrol grids (my favourite).This is a very popular addon and highly recommended.
Below is the link-
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/downloads.php?do=file&id=733
Not sure if it is the latest version though,someone will correct me if its not.

Have fun!

[sergei]

Oh yeah :yep:
SH3 Commander. Don't leave port without it.

Don't forget to also get the GWX/Commander configuration files from the Grey Wolves website.
http://www.thegreywolves.com/downloads/

You be needing these if you plan to run Commander and GWX together.

[frau kaleun]

Below is the link-
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/downloads.php?do=file&id=733
Not sure if it is the latest version though,someone will correct me if its not.

Have fun!

That is indeed the most current version, however if you are going to run it with GWX3 you will also need to install the config files for the combination:

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/downloads.php?do=file&id=1421

EDIT: Beat to the punch! Would've been faster if it hadn't been for those meddling kids and their dog.

[sergei]

Beat ya to it Frau :O:

'Why, it was old man Parker in a mask' :DL

[frau kaleun]

Go on then, you've earned it:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/d8/Scooby-Snacks-F.jpg

[Paul Riley]

That is indeed the most current version, however if you are going to run it with GWX3 you will also need to install the config files for the combination:

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/downloads.php?do=file&id=1421

EDIT: Beat to the punch! Would've been faster if it hadn't been for those meddling kids and their dog.

I forgot about the extra config files for GWX3.
You have to be bloody quick in here sometimes,ya beat me to the draw! :shucks:

[Sailor Steve]

I actually liked the thicker,murkier water in the stock game.Whats your take on this Steve,why the GWX developers opted for a black underwater environment? :hmmm:
Everything is relative. I have an old 19" CRT monitor, and where others complain about pitch-black nights I complain I can see too well.

Underwater is quite light for me in the daytime, and as I said I keep the SH3 Commander setting to as low as I can get it and still see the conning tower at all.

I also agree with what Immelman said. I never raise the scope below periscope depth, and I never raise it at any speed above 3 knots, because any faster and the vibration would make it more and more difficult to see at all.

[Threesixtyci]

I'm sure when you could, planes would have no problems seeing the sub, too.

[maillemaker]

I'm just using GWX. I can see pretty good underwater with the scope, until I'm really deep anyway.

[Jimbuna]

In real life past 30m you wouldn't be able to raise the PS to begin with, the pressure is too high, it was not designed for use at such depth and even if you did somehow raise it you wouldn't be able to turn it for the same reason. Also you do not want to do any such thing. You want it to stay in its well safe and sound when deeper the 30m any other position will result in flooding. The deeper you are the more severe the flooding. (this is for you people that forget their scopes up after a submerged attack)

Maximum usable depth is maybe 25m and even then it will be hard to see and hard to turn it. Also when using PS do not exceed 5-6kts since in real life it would be bent backwards by the water resistance.

:down: Down scope!

Agreed....and the same for the schnorkel (if so equipped) anything more than 5 knots and it would vibrate at best or sheer off at worst.

[JohnnyBlaze]

Sorry a bit off topic..

@Jimbuna

When is the snorkel available in GWX3? Do you have to be in a specific port to acquire it?

I'm currently in June 1943 sailing out of Brest, France.

Thanks

-JB

[Paul Riley]

Sorry,got to be quick here and beat ol jim to the mark!
I believe the first schnorkels were fitted in August 1943! yes I cheated,I looked on Google for you hehe.
Beat you jimbo! :up:

[Jimbuna]

Sorry a bit off topic..

@Jimbuna

When is the snorkel available in GWX3? Do you have to be in a specific port to acquire it?

I'm currently in June 1943 sailing out of Brest, France.

Thanks

-JB

I'm sorry but I can't recall off the top of my head....I'm not currently on my home system :oops:

[Jimbuna]

Sorry,got to be quick here and beat ol jim to the mark!
I believe the first schnorkels were fitted in August 1943! yes I cheated,I looked on Google for you hehe.
Beat you jimbo! :up:

LOL :DL

But have you checked the CFG files to see if that date is replicated ingame? :hmmm:

[geosub1978]

I use the periscope to search for nets when penetraiting harbors. So far I have entered in Alexandria, Malta and Loch Eve with much success!It works this way!!I have set clarity at 20 in SH3Commander. Why not? The rest are at 100%.

[JohnnyBlaze]

LOL :DL

But have you checked the CFG files to see if that date is replicated ingame? :hmmm:

Yes Pauli you were faster, but you can't beat Jimbuna for his wisdom on the game files :DL

So I'll have to still survive a couple of months without the snorkel..

Thanks guys :salute:

-JB

[Paul Riley]

LOL :DL

But have you checked the CFG files to see if that date is replicated ingame? :hmmm:

To be honest?,no I didnt jim ;)

[Jimbuna]

To be honest?,no I didnt jim ;)

Fair enough :sunny: