View Full Version : I wonder how long. . . ?
I ask this question , not to simply rehash all the DRM flaming that has and is taking place but just being curious. Is there anyone out there who may be "in the know" more than the rest of us Joe Blogg gamers (like a mole in Ubisoft?) who can hazard an educated guess to: " I wonder how long Ubisoft will hold out 'til, in the light of their obviously losing many much-desired subscriptions, they " eat humble pie ", " cave in to the obvious " , " take a reality check ", and apply the patch which will enable offline playing ? "
captainprid
03-23-10, 07:31 AM
They won't because they will set a precedence. There are too many people copying games etc and it's in everone's interest if dev make money out of their games
They won't because they will set a precedence. There are too many people copying games etc and it's in everone's interest if dev make money out of their games
I hear you but since games will be pirated anyway, I would think Ubisoft cannot afford to lose what cash they would get if they had applied a less draconion security measure.
Rockin Robbins
03-23-10, 07:40 AM
I ask this question , not to simply rehash all the DRM flaming that has and is taking place but just being curious. Is there anyone out there who may be "in the know" more than the rest of us Joe Blogg gamers (like a mole in Ubisoft?) who can hazard an educated guess to: " I wonder how long Ubisoft will hold out 'til, in the light of their obviously losing many much-desired subscriptions, they " eat humble pie ", " cave in to the obvious " , " take a reality check ", and apply the patch which will enable offline playing ? "
No. No one can predict what Ubi will do.
captainprid
03-23-10, 07:41 AM
I hear you but since games will be pirated anyway, I would think Ubisoft cannot afford to lose what cash they would get if they had applied a less draconion security measure.
I agree with you but are there any accurate figures of exactly how many people haven't bought this game because of the internet thing?
I think some people are moaning about it just to moan. I don't like it myself but I don't like the thought of not playing SH more
Ablemaster
03-23-10, 07:43 AM
They have always been quiet, but have always produced a patch in the past, ubi certainly are not informative or even freindly towards their customers, though i believe a patch will arive before too long, and hopefully sense will prevail here.
hmmm.... Yeah - it's hard to assess the situation. They have so many other games they get continual revenue from they may well afford to stick it out anyway. That's why I would like to be a fly on the wall in Ubisoft HQ. Time will tell, but I think you are right - personally I think they will not back down.
They have always been quiet, but have always produced a patch in the past, ubi certainly are not informative or even freindly towards their customers, though i believe a patch will arive before too long, and hopefully sense will prevail here.
Would love to see that but for the present, I think they will at least hold out for sufficient time to show everyone thry are not giving in to the present-day protests. Then as a " magnanimus gesture " they will offer the offline patch.
Sailor Steve
03-23-10, 12:21 PM
I agree with you but are there any accurate figures of exactly how many people haven't bought this game because of the internet thing?
I think some people are moaning about it just to moan. I don't like it myself but I don't like the thought of not playing SH more
I don't think it's possible to get accurate figures on a negative. It might be thousands, or it might be dozens. It might be the handful here and there who have actually said they won't, and no more. There is absolutely no way to tell.
My guess is that it will be six months to a year, depending on how it sells. They'll remove it when prices have dropped and it doesn't matter anymore.
But that's just my guess.:sunny:
Did anyone check out the latest steam sales for the week ending 21 March?
Battlefield: Bad Company 2
Dragon Age: Origins Awakening
Warhammer 40,000: Dawn of War II Chaos Rising
Command & Conquer 4: Tiberian Twilight
Metro 2033
Dragon Age: Origins Digital Deluxe Edition
Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2
Assassin's Creed 2
Aliens vs. Predator
Supreme Commander 2
I thought that being immune to piracy would make Assassins Creed 2 number one, and not lag behind pirated games with weak DRM and relative unknowns like Metro 2033! After all, the Anti-Piracy Brigades(APB) have stated that every pirated game is a lost sale and with 1 million copies of the original Assassins Creed being pirated that should mean 1 million extra sales of AC2, right? Err....right APB fanatics? Another nail in the coffin of the piracy affects sales theory.
Check out Dragon Age with virtually no DRM and how well it sells!
If I was a UBI exec I'd order the removal of the DRM as soon as possible. Doesn't seem to help with sales even without pirates.
mookiemookie
03-23-10, 12:31 PM
But that's just my guess.:sunny:
No, because that's MY guess too! Why are you stealing my guess?
Seriously though - when the cost of maintaining the DRM servers for SH5 outweighs the sales of the title itself, it would only make sense to drop the DRM. Probably 6 mo to a year, as Steve said.
Sailor Steve
03-23-10, 12:32 PM
No, because that's MY guess too! Why are you stealing my guess?
Your guess is as good as mine!
:rotfl2:
mookiemookie
03-23-10, 12:33 PM
Your guess is as good as mine!
:rotfl2:
Ladies and gentlemen, he's here all week. Tip your waitstaff.
Did anyone check out the latest steam sales for the week ending 21 March?
Battlefield: Bad Company 2
Dragon Age: Origins Awakening
Warhammer 40,000: Dawn of War II Chaos Rising
Command & Conquer 4: Tiberian Twilight
Metro 2033
Dragon Age: Origins Digital Deluxe Edition
Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2
Assassin's Creed 2
Aliens vs. Predator
Supreme Commander 2
What's surprising about that is that Assassin's Creed is by no means a small or unpopular franchise, yet it's getting beat by MW2? That game's been out for quite some time now.
mcarlsonus
03-23-10, 12:45 PM
I remember some years ago, there was quite a stink about Ubi's Starforce protection. Didn't they remove that, or did it just become so annoying they didn't reuse it in SH4 (can't remember!). Starforce DID hurt sales, though - "they" learned THAT particular lesson. I seem to recollect Steam downloads didn't go so well...
I am rapidly losing interest in SHV, I doubt I'll buy it even without DRM :zzz:
I did lose interest for a while but finally seeing it here in Romania for 35 euros it's virtually already on the 'mid-life' price discount level when released! At this rate maybe in a few months it will be in the bargain bin and MAYBE by then UBI will cut it's losses(if only to save on server maintenance as others have said) and get rid of the DRM. Then maybe there'll be enough mods to make it a worthy purchase.
What's surprising about that is that Assassin's Creed is by no means a small or unpopular franchise, yet it's getting beat by MW2? That game's been out for quite some time now.
Well apparently according to the Anti Piracy Brigades, MW2 was pirated 4,000,000 times so any sales figures for this game must be a lie!;)
maurader
03-23-10, 01:04 PM
I remember some years ago, there was quite a stink about Ubi's Starforce protection. Didn't they remove that, or did it just become so annoying they didn't reuse it in SH4 (can't remember!). Starforce DID hurt sales, though - "they" learned THAT particular lesson. I seem to recollect Steam downloads didn't go so well...
Yes, Ubisoft officially posted instructions on how to remove Starforce from SH3. It is posted on this forum.
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=160118
I have the original "Starforce included" version of SH3 and recently reloaded it on my new computer. I found the thread above and patched it as directed. Neal says it is a "approved by Ubisoft" patch.
The funny thing is I cant believe the audacity of Ubisoft because the "official non-starforce patch" is actually a pirate created crack.
So is this what we should expect when they decide to patch out the current DRM in 6 months to a year? :06:
I remember some years ago, there was quite a stink about Ubi's Starforce protection. Didn't they remove that, or did it just become so annoying they didn't reuse it in SH4 (can't remember!). Starforce DID hurt sales, though - "they" learned THAT particular lesson. I seem to recollect Steam downloads didn't go so well...
They removed it, but only after they were repeatedly hammered on various forums and in the gaming press about it - including numerous proofs to the effect that Starforce was some seriously nasty malware. They weren't the only ones to use it, but I believe they were the biggest. And, as has been pointed out, once they were finally backed into a corner and forced to act like they cared that their DRM was harming customers' systems, their response was to pirate a crack and make it official.
They removed it, but only after they were repeatedly hammered on various forums and in the gaming press about it - including numerous proofs to the effect that Starforce was some seriously nasty malware. They weren't the only ones to use it, but I believe they were the biggest. And, as has been pointed out, once they were finally backed into a corner and forced to act like they cared that their DRM was harming customers' systems, their response was to pirate a crack and make it official.
Yeah, the scene should have nuked the crack for being stolen. Would have been hilarious.
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