U-505 Capture.

[seaace]

Gentlemen,I don't post here as you can see,still I thought this might be of interest to some of you.It concerns the capture of the U-505 and were she is now.

http://shock.military.com/Shock/videos.do?displayContent=211038&page=8

[robbo180265]

Thanks for sharing that with us - good find.

[tater]

Doesn't mention that the USN was PISSED that she was captured and towed into port as a prize.

[alexradu89]

Gentlemen,I don't post here as you can see,still I thought this might be of interest to some of you.It concerns the capture of the U-505 and were she is now.

http://shock.military.com/Shock/videos.do?displayContent=211038&page=8
I just watched this video on YT a few hours ago! :doh: now that's some freaky sh... stuff :) anyway, i hope more u-boats will be raised from the seas and reconditioned into museums... would be very cool to see type VIIs and stuff..

[MercurySeven]

Doesn't mention that the USN was PISSED that she was captured and towed into port as a prize.

The USN was pissed? I would imagine that you usually feel rather happy if you capture a piece of military equipment from your enemy? :hmmm:

[sergei]

No, apparently Admiral King even considered court martialling Gallery.
It endangered the Enigma code breaking operation.
Read more here
http://militaryhistory.about.com/od/worldwari1/p/u505.htm

[CCIP]

It made things rather complicated, basically. If the Germans knew the boat was captured, they would suspect that some of her key equipment would have been captured. It could have prompted the Germans to change their Enigma encryption which the allies worked so hard to crack, among other things. A code change in 1942 had already caused a several-month 'blackout' on U-boat signal decryptions, so that possibility was very real. It was also an unnecessary liability - the USN didn't really want the boat and, from their perspective, had little to gain from her being intact. All they wanted was the codebooks and the enigma machine - there wasn't anything else on that boat that, from their perspective, was worth taking the risk of the Germans finding out that it was captured. The thing is that allied ASW by that point was a very effective system - the risk of spoiling that effectiveness if the Germans changed codes or tactics was at the time thought of as very undesirable.

[BlackDeep]

U-505 has a pretty neat place in the Museum of Science and Industry in Chicago and it is really worth a trip. ( by the way, the entire museum is worth a trip )
But don't go there on the last day before spring break 'cause you won't be able to enter the U-boat.. had happend to me and I am from Germany which slightly reduces the chance to go there a second time :cry:

[mookiemookie]

U-505 has a pretty neat place in the Museum of Science and Industry in Chicago and it is really worth a trip. ( by the way, the entire museum is worth a trip )
But don't go there on the last day before spring break 'cause you won't be able to enter the U-boat.. had happend to me and I am from Germany which slightly reduces the chance to go there a second time :cry:

I've got a business meeting in downtown Chicago next month. I've planned my flights so that I have an entire afternoon to visit the U-505. :cool:

[tater]

Yeah, all it would have taken was one sighting of 505 being towed to put rather a lot at risk—for nothing more than a trophy.

It would not have really changed the outcome of the war, or even the Battle of the Atlantic, but it could very well have resulted in many unnecessary deaths.

[BlackDeep]

I've got a business meeting in downtown Chicago next month. I've planned my flights so that I have an entire afternoon to visit the U-505. :cool:


Well, spend this time wisley and look at how they captured the U-boat and go into the U-boat. However, visiting the inside of the U-Boat costs an extra fee so ask for it when you enter the museum. If you miss that you won't be able to go inside of U-505.

If I remember right you could take bus line 100 to get to the museum of science and industry. The line stops nearby of the museum of contemporary art.

@mookiemookie: Well, the bus line is rather #10 than #100 : see http://gochicago.about.com/od/chicagomuseums/p/museum_science.htm

[mookiemookie]

Well, spend this time wisley and look at how they captured the U-boat and go into the U-boat. However, visiting the inside of the U-Boat costs an extra fee so ask for it when you enter the museum. If you miss that you won't be able to go inside of U-505.

If I remember right you could take bus line 100 to get to the museum of science and industry. The line stops nearby of the museum of contemporary art.

Will do. Thank you! :salute:

[KING111]

If you want a good read you should all get
Secret Diary of a U-boat
He called the book that because they were not aloud
To keep Diarys but he did
It was written by the radio officer that was on U505
And before that he was on U109 when U109 was sunk
He was ill in hospital otherwise he would have died
With the rest of the crew it’s an awesome Book
I have read it 4 times :salute:

[FIREWALL]

After watching that vid I don't know whether to play SHIII or watch Das Boot. :hmmm:

I guess I'll do both. :yep: :D

Thx seaace :salute:

[perisher]

U-505 has a pretty neat place in the Museum of Science and Industry in Chicago and it is really worth a trip. ( by the way, the entire museum is worth a trip )
But don't go there on the last day before spring break 'cause you won't be able to enter the U-boat.. had happend to me and I am from Germany which slightly reduces the chance to go there a second time :cry:

I visited this exhibit a couple of years ago. While it was worth seeing, I was disappointed that they rush you through the boat and tell you all about the capture and nothing else. They do not allow you to linger in any compartment long enough to take a good look around. The capture was an amazing feat of arms and the subsequent recovery an outstanding example of fine seamanship, but I would rather have learned more about the boat, its operations and its crew. The guide was very knowledgeable about the capture but clueless about anything else. Having said that, I still recomend seeing it if you have the chance.

[ddrgn]

I visited this exhibit a couple of years ago. While it was worth seeing, I was disappointed that they rush you through the boat and tell you all about the capture and nothing else. They do not allow you to linger in any compartment long enough to take a good look around. The capture was an amazing feat of arms and the subsequent recovery an outstanding example of fine seamanship, but I would rather have learned more about the boat, its operations and its crew. The guide was very knowledgeable about the capture but clueless about anything else. Having said that, I still recomend seeing it if you have the chance.

They gave me a private tour for 45 mins at the end of the day....

[perisher]

They gave me a private tour for 45 mins at the end of the day....
I think that is a good tactic, I got to Saratoga National Park late in the day and got personal tour with the Park Historian. Had similar experiences in the UK too. Of course, they could just say, "Too late, mate!":D

[BlackDeep]

I visited this exhibit a couple of years ago. While it was worth seeing, I was disappointed that they rush you through the boat and tell you all about the capture and nothing else. They do not allow you to linger in any compartment long enough to take a good look around. The capture was an amazing feat of arms and the subsequent recovery an outstanding example of fine seamanship, but I would rather have learned more about the boat, its operations and its crew. The guide was very knowledgeable about the capture but clueless about anything else. Having said that, I still recomend seeing it if you have the chance.


If I remember right then everything in that specific area was just about the capture and nothing or little about the crew and the technics of U-505 or even u-boat type IX

[Decoman]

Speaking of uboats, I noticed a newsitem today, where it is claimed that the wreck of U-1053 probably has been located recently at 340m depth, in Bergen, Norway.

Looking up that uboat on Uboat.net lead to information that seem to claim that the location (whatever that means) had been known for years.

I sent uboat.net an email about this.

The story goes that the uboat sank while performing a test dive around Bergen in 1945, with some shipyard workers on board as well.

The identity has not really been confirmed at present time.