Looked like a planned attack (Ubisoft servers) [Archive]

chaparral02

03-13-10, 05:08 PM

Saw this over on the steam forums...... seems it is a planned attack on UBI
http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/7817/ddosf.jpg
Natehttp://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18124822

stabiz

03-13-10, 05:37 PM

That is as warped as it gets.

Méo

03-13-10, 05:42 PM

Jeez... Neal must be a very patient man...:-?

Onkel Neal

03-13-10, 06:06 PM

Hopefully some people will see prison time for this kind of stuff.

Letum

03-13-10, 06:09 PM

Hopefully some people will see prison time for this kind of stuff.

I doubt it. It's hard to get prosecutions against big companies like Ubisoft.
...oh, wait, you mean...

chaparral02

03-13-10, 06:43 PM

I doubt it. It's hard to get prosecutions against big companies like Ubisoft.:har: :rotfl2:

janh

03-13-10, 06:45 PM

If those guys would be smart enough to see that the long term damage is to their own disadvantage. But some people never learn from history, even if it repeats itself every year (like the DRM/cracking race).

I would have liked them to ignore SHV entirely, not even cracking it. Then the sales would have told us a little about (casual and old) customers' tolerance of OSP/DRM and the importance of product state for their buying decision. It simply is just totally nuts what they are doing now. I wonder whether they all went to school in Rhode Island.

Fincuan

03-13-10, 06:50 PM

Pretty high-tech stuff. Planning the attack in Piratebay's comments and executing it using PING and it actually works? :haha:

Hartmann

03-13-10, 06:55 PM

It´s the perfect excuse for UBI... We are under attack !! :D ....

....but we use a very small server to save money and banwith for another games and we are not interested in SH players and no mention about traffic and thousand savegames up and down

Juliano

03-13-10, 07:03 PM

I´m just wondering...
How many "pingers" one must gather to get those kind of server down? :o
Wow, I must say I´m quite impressed

I´m guessing the pirates wont stop until UBI drops DRM or start legal procedures against them

Mud

03-13-10, 07:09 PM

Thousands of people wanna play and 5 pingers prevent that, do I miss something ?

http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/7817/ddosf.jpg

Mud

JScones

03-13-10, 07:09 PM

Yeah, if a bunch of guys reading a thread somewhere can "ping" Ubisoft to a halt (unless, of course, the collective readership of said thread is greater than the entire Subsim community), then, yeah, it looks like there'll be a lot of problem times ahead for Ubisoft...

Letum

03-13-10, 07:14 PM

It's not like there isn't looooads of simple software products about that can
be installed on a server to prevent DOS attacks.

Even some domestic anti-virus packets have it.

krashkart

03-13-10, 07:22 PM

Sure it's not a hoax? Could just be a handful of jokers throwing more confusion into the mix. *shrug*

KL-alfman

03-13-10, 07:30 PM

Sure it's not a hoax? Could just be a handful of jokers throwing more confusion into the mix. *shrug*

seems correct.
who really thinks that large scale DDOS-attacks are announced on public forums before?? don't make me laugh about your unsophistication.

and no, Neal, there's no prison for high-school jokes.

Mondaiji

03-13-10, 07:32 PM

I bet on hoax .. but its possible that their network admin is a complete moron ;)

Juliano

03-13-10, 07:41 PM

I bet on hoax .. but its possible that their network admin is a complete moron ;)

I believe that´s the fact.
UBI is making some weird excuses if the problem is lack of competence by their part. Next time they will put the blame on something else like "the janitor tripped on the power cable and unplugged the server by accident"?

Mud

03-13-10, 07:42 PM

and no, Neal, there's no prison for high-school jokes.

Try to ping the FBI servers for a while, I´m sure it turns out the joke isn´t that funny anymore :woot:

Mud

Nordmann

03-13-10, 07:43 PM

Notice how it's generally the weekends, which I suspect is related to the number of people attempting to log in. The supposed attacks are nothing but an excuse for poor servers, something which many of us predicted would happen.

Hartmann

03-13-10, 07:44 PM

Perhaps they are moving the server from one unsafe place to a better one :hmmm:

http://chrisalley.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/image004.jpg

http://www.wordmagazine.co.uk/files/uploads/donkey_computer.jpg

KL-alfman

03-13-10, 07:49 PM

Try to ping the FBI servers for a while, I´m sure it turns out the joke isn´t that funny anymore :woot:

Mud

first: I don't know their IP-adresses.
second: I'm not interested in their IP-adresses
third: I've got no time for pinging their IP-adresses
fourth: even if I did, I expect Jodie Foster to show up
fifth: if you think that FBI should be involved into UBI's U-p(ay but cannot p)lay politics, I smile inwardly

janh

03-13-10, 08:15 PM

The weather is nice today, isn't it?
---
Guess what this whole discussion is? Pretty useless as it won't make any difference... We will know at some point in the future whether it was or was not an attack. I am pretty sure it will come out one way or another.

jwilliams

03-13-10, 08:16 PM

The weather is nice today, isn't it?

I wouldn't know.... I'm still playing SH5. And i aint logging off till monday. Otherwise i might not be able to reconnect to there overloaded servers.

jdkbph

03-13-10, 08:27 PM

It's got to be a joke or hoax or whatever. Not even UBI would be stupid enough to leave their servers - which have already crashed and burned once - hanging out in space without disabling/blocking ICMP traffic.

JD

Athlonic

03-13-10, 08:48 PM

UBI's U-p(ay but cannot p)lay politics

Oh ! Nice one !

:haha:

Alienfresser

03-14-10, 04:03 AM

Dosn't speak for the quality of the hoster INTERNAP.COM when a simple ICMP DDOS is reaching the real destiantion servers.

Normaly this crap traffic is filterd by either the Firewall (well if they have one in front) or at least by the loadbalancer. Even if they don't use high "intelligence" equipment to detect traffic anomalys the pure limiters from the core devices should have filtered out 80% of such traffic.

robbo180265

03-14-10, 04:24 AM

Dos attack or crap servers?

Doesn't really matter does it? What matters is that I was quite happily playing SHV and was suddenly booted out of my game, was also unable to log back on. I've lost everything I did after my last save and I find it really quite annoying.

Just hoping that (assuming UBI can't keep the servers stable at the weekend - when we all want to play) UBI decide to drop the stupid DRM that keeps paying customers from playing the game they've bought.

The other thing that was mentioned on here last night is - how long before the modders give up? If they can't play test then they cant mod, I don't doubt that UBI will patch again , but we all know its the modders who will actually shape the game the way we want it.

/ Rant over :D

Edit to add: I'm going back to playing Eve at the weekends till UBI sorts it out. Eve is a proper MMO with stable servers - UBI please note !

tommyk

03-14-10, 04:55 AM

Yak

03-14-10, 07:38 AM

My biggest surprise is they didn't try this on day one for both SH5 and Assassins Creed 2. That would've been a media coup and really left ubi with egg on their faces, somewhat like take 2 and Bioshock on 2007 (but that was their servers being inadequate)

Bilge_Rat

03-14-10, 07:39 AM

Is there an attack?

I had zero issues logging on and playing SH5 this weekend..and this from a very weak wireless connection.

It's either a hoax or Ubisoft is getting the upper hand over those criminals.

The Enigma

03-14-10, 07:56 AM

Pretty high-tech stuff. Planning the attack in Piratebay's comments and executing it using PING and it actually works? :haha:

:haha:

Agree, never have seen such moronic attempt before.
First telling the world what they are up to, next do a bunch of pings and as a result UBI's server crashes?????
:har::har::har:

Com on ppl, don't believe every thing so easily.
Keep thinking. :salute:

Dutch

03-14-10, 08:23 AM

robbo180265

03-14-10, 08:29 AM

Hoax or not at least someone is willing to continue the fight unlike alot of people here.

Carry on people if you can play then do it.

I am still waiting for them to hack UBI and delete your saves. Talk about a roflmao-copter.

Just so you know - you're not fighting in my name, all I want to is play my game when I want to.

Also I doubt many save their games online now - I know I don't , so there would be very little to hack into I would imagine :03:

gimpy117

03-14-10, 12:11 PM

with the right software you can have one computer sending many pings a second to a server. add in a few more computers and the job is done.

The Enigma

03-14-10, 12:17 PM

@gimpy117

Well, according to that screen shot they used the sophisticated batch file approach.

Dutch

03-14-10, 12:18 PM

Just so you know - you're not fighting in my name, all I want to is play my game when I want to.

Also I doubt many save their games online now - I know I don't , so there would be very little to hack into I would imagine :03:

I was under the impression that, that was the main reason behind their wonderful "have" to be online to play idea, which was to give the player the ability to save the games online. Its possible I may have misunderstood. If so that's good for the ones who bought it as it is one less thing you have to worry about. As for the simplicity of how UBI's servers crash, that is another issue all together. But I doubt this is serious.

robbo180265

03-14-10, 12:24 PM

I was under the impression that, that was the main reason behind their wonderful "have" to be online to play idea, which was to give the player the ability to save the games online. Its possible I may have misunderstood. If so that's good for the ones who bought it as it is one less thing you have to worry about. As for the simplicity of how UBI's servers crash, that is another issue all together. But I doubt this is serious.

Yeah there's a option to disable the online saves. It still saves - but to your computer.

I think I read somewhere that the online saves where unreliable, but I just didn't like the idea to be honest.

3Dfr34k2009

03-14-10, 01:17 PM

After the server crashed by ping overload, the Ubi-tech are trying to figure out how to fix the issue.

http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/5959/maintenanceb.jpg (http://img200.imageshack.us/i/maintenanceb.jpg/)

http://img683.imageshack.us/img683/4030/silenthunter52.jpg

Also after watching the mods, I am seriously thinking that the modders are more skilled and smart than the lazy pizza eater's developers at UBI.:DL

Faamecanic

03-14-10, 01:33 PM

Hopefully some people will see prison time for this kind of stuff.

But then Ubistank will have to close their doors and SH series will die....oh wait... you mean the hackers :yeah:

flymar

03-14-10, 01:50 PM

server do not have to answer a ping request and do the other activities well. If this was unprotected then it's a quite a lesson for ubi. But why should we suffer because of that? I'm wainting for offline mod.

AVGWarhawk

03-14-10, 02:24 PM

Hopefully some people will see prison time for this kind of stuff.

That would be nice. What jollies does someone get from attacking a server or making a virus. It is a damn inconvience and sometimes a monetary inconvience when you need to buy a program to get rid of a virus. I'm cleaning up my girls computer of a virus. It is damn frustrating. Hopefully UBI will throw in the towel on the next patch and be done with this DRM.

Faamecanic

03-14-10, 02:29 PM

That would be nice. What jollies does someone get from attacking a server or making a virus. It is a damn inconvience and sometimes a monetary inconvience when you need to buy a program to get rid of a virus. I'm cleaning up my girls computer of a virus. It is damn frustrating. Hopefully UBI will throw in the towel on the next patch and be done with this DRM.

:yeah: If we are gonna dream...dream big I say.

I would think Starforce would have taught Ubistank a lesson.... yet they now implement something 100X worse...didnt think that was possible.