repairing destroyed equipment

[fhilgers78]

Hi all

Possible im simply totally stupid or it dont work, at moment my diesel engines are both destroyed, so i talk with my chief engineer and told him to repair destroyed equipment, and also with max moral he told me that he cant do that, same if i use the anti moral mod or if i dont use it, again and again he simply tell me he cant do that, so is there some sort of magic i need to do before or do i need to get some sort of special overpowered screwdriver for him or is it simply bugged?

[BlackSpot]

Is it possible that "destroyed" means just that? It's destroyed so they're unrepairable.

[SteamWake]

if i use the anti moral mod or if i dont use it,

Wondering how...

I know that SH4 dident like it when you install mods mid patrol.

[fhilgers78]

@blackspot

Normally destroyed means destroyed yes sure, but then tell me why the chief engineer have a skill called repair destroyed equipment, this sounds for me like a skill that uhm allow you to repair destroyed equipment.

So normally this skill should allow me to repair destroyed things in my uboat but it dont do that, also it dont allow me anythign else this skill simply dont do anything.

[Drifter]

Hi all

Possible im simply totally stupid or it dont work, at moment my diesel engines are both destroyed, so i talk with my chief engineer and told him to repair destroyed equipment, and also with max moral he told me that he cant do that, same if i use the anti moral mod or if i dont use it, again and again he simply tell me he cant do that, so is there some sort of magic i need to do before or do i need to get some sort of special overpowered screwdriver for him or is it simply bugged?

I think it's time to swim for the nearest port. :har:

[raziel08]

only your subsystems can be repaired. your hull will only repaired if you dock, not restock. the ability "repair subsystems" works. but it will cost 10 morale points by default and it results in an instant repair.

[fhilgers78]

subsystem can be repaired yes sure but thats the problem he tells me he cant do that , so my engines are still destroyed lol.

[HundertzehnGustav]

?

diesel engines are SUBsystems?
Not owning SHV, the Diesel are surely MAIN systems or something?

How the funk is a man able to fix something that is totally Forked, especially something as big and complex as a diesel?

a pipe, a tube, valves, sealings bearings... well okay... but a dead 1200hp diesel...

[BlackSpot]

If you recall, in Das Boot they struggled to find a small coil of wire.


(I know Das Boot isn't real ... they're just glove puppets. Sorry kids)

[gimpy117]

only your subsystems can be repaired. your hull will only repaired if you dock, not restock. the ability "repair subsystems" works. but it will cost 10 morale points by default and it results in an instant repair.

agree you cant repair the hull in real life you would need a proper drydock to fix a hull so you could dive

[naval_noob]

But if the guy has two destroyed diesel engines( I am in the same boat btw) you would think that the engineer would tear them both apart to get one working.... It is what I would do.

[captainprid]

I asked this question too..... You will notice that even though he says that he cant do it; if you click on him again there will be an eta next to the request. This is usually around 5 days. I have never waited for the five days to be up so I can't answer your question but if you have lots of patience you could hang on and see what happens

[Nisgeis]

I asked this question too..... You will notice that even though he says that he cant do it; if you click on him again there will be an eta next to the request. This is usually around 5 days. I have never waited for the five days to be up so I can't answer your question but if you have lots of patience you could hang on and see what happens

That's the cooldown period. After five days you can ask him again and he will still say no.

[Westbroek]

:rotfl2:

[captainprid]

That's the cooldown period. After five days you can ask him again and he will still say no.


So what's the point???

What would have happened in real life?? I would have imagined they would have called for support of some sort

[Nico09]

I have asked the Chief to repair Damaged systems, he says "cant do that right now", but i still get an icon at the top of the screen saying he's doing it. :-?

[stellaferox]

So how do you return to port?

[HundertzehnGustav]

yer fukked

a ship with broken, and i mean, DESTROYED engines...
not DAMAGED... really FUBAR...

call the tommies for s trip to england.

[Webster]

subsystem can be repaired yes sure but thats the problem he tells me he cant do that , so my engines are still destroyed lol.

i dont have the game so i cant give specifics but engines are a primary system and NOT a subsystem so they are most likely just not on the list of destroyed equipt that can be "undestroyed" by special abilities.

there is most likely a list in a file somewhere that tells the game what can be "undestroyed" by special abilities so if you find where that is then maybe you can add the engines to the list.

[Bilge_Rat]

have you checked the status screen?

I have had the diesel engines damaged, even off line from DCs, but you can see them get repaired over time, i.e:


http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/9500/dcattack003.jpg

[Bilge_Rat]

What would have happened in real life?? I would have imagined they would have called for support of some sort


yes, send out a distress signal to U-Boat control.

If far out to sea, they would hope another U-Boat would come to rescue the crew after which they would scuttle the boat.

If it was close to a friendly port, ships would be sent out to tow the U-Boat back to port.

[naval_noob]

Well I have the boat on the surface and off the main travel routes might as well wait and see....

[msxyz]

But if the guy has two destroyed diesel engines( I am in the same boat btw) you would think that the engineer would tear them both apart to get one working.... It is what I would do.

Did you realize how big those things are? Those engines couldn't be disassembled at sea. Maybe you could fix the injection pump, a leaky fuel pipe or even change a broken valve spring, but everything else required the ship to be in drydock. I think that, as in most big naval engines, each of the six engine pots could be switched off individually so, if the problem was severe but limited, the engine could still be operated.

I cannot imagine what mishap could cause the destruction of one of those engines... a gripped piston, maybe. Or due to depth charge damage, the hull is bent enough that the shafts are affected too. It happened sometimes on ships struck by seafloor mines.

Any major repair was carried out in drydocks. The sub was gutted open and the engines lifted with a heavy crane. I think I have seen a photo somewhere on one the books on the argument I own.

Man, I hope you are a good swimmer ;)

[naval_noob]

Hey don't knock me never been on a sub before my limited knowledge comes from Das Boot and Hunt for Red October :)

Well no joy - I had 10 promotion points remaining and gave them all to my cook for his abilities and to up his passive ability. Got my whole crews morale to 100% using meals ( Gay I know) and Engineer still "Can't do that right now"

Ended up reloading...

[SteamWake]

yer fukked

a ship with broken, and i mean, DESTROYED engines...
not DAMAGED... really FUBAR...

call the tommies for s trip to england.

Please try to moderate the language using unique spellings to get around the filters is not going to make a lot of friends around here.

[TheElitePhoenix]

Macgyver could fix destroyed systems. All he would need is: A paper clip, ballpoint pen, rubber band, tweezers, nasal spray, and a turkey baster.

[kylania]

Hey don't knock me never been on a sub before my limited knowledge comes from Das Boot and Hunt for Red October :)

Well no joy - I had 10 promotion points remaining and gave them all to my cook for his abilities and to up his passive ability. Got my whole crews morale to 100% using meals ( Gay I know) and Engineer still "Can't do that right now"

Ended up reloading...

Morale is currently busted. Either use MoraleMod to completely remove it or wait till next week when it's supposed to be fixed.

[captainprid]

Macgyver could fix destroyed systems. All he would need is: A paper clip, ballpoint pen, rubber band, tweezers, nasal spray, and a turkey baster.

What about the A-Team?? They could have fixed it and turned it into a tank at the same time!!!

[captainprid]

Did you realize how big those things are? Those engines couldn't be disassembled at sea. Maybe you could fix the injection pump, a leaky fuel pipe or even change a broken valve spring, but everything else required the ship to be in drydock. I think that, as in most big naval engines, each of the six engine pots could be switched off individually so, if the problem was severe but limited, the engine could still be operated.

I cannot imagine what mishap could cause the destruction of one of those engines... a gripped piston, maybe. Or due to depth charge damage, the hull is bent enough that the shafts are affected too. It happened sometimes on ships struck by seafloor mines.

Any major repair was carried out in drydocks. The sub was gutted open and the engines lifted with a heavy crane. I think I have seen a photo somewhere on one the books on the argument I own.

Man, I hope you are a good swimmer ;)


Wouldn't sea water in the fuel wreck the engines???

[oscar19681]

What about the A-Team?? They could have fixed it and turned it into a tank at the same time!!!

HELL NO!! They would not fix it into a tank! They would turn it into a floating tank with a flamethrower.

[oscar19681]

have you checked the status screen?

I have had the diesel engines damaged, even off line from DCs, but you can see them get repaired over time, i.e:


http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/9500/dcattack003.jpg

What i dont understand about the damage system is what the percentages say. How ****ed am i if both my engines are down to say 40 % or 30% There really is no difference in-game unless they are down to 0% My radio once went down to 23 % and my hydrophone to 44 % Didnt make no differance i could still use them both! It seems the damage system only understand when it hits 0% and then its detroyed beyond repair. I really dont think you can damage systems and as a result they dont work as good anymore. thus the so called "damage" is nothing more to show you how far it is from being destoyed and thats all. Really arcady if you ask me. In fact it works just like a health bar. When it reaches 0% your dead. At leasts in sh-3 when you damages your left engine the left blade would turn slower or stop.

[Webster]

Macgyver could fix destroyed systems. All he would need is: A paper clip, ballpoint pen, rubber band, tweezers, nasal spray, and a turkey baster.


dont forget the duct tape, always gotta have duct tape for something :har:

[msxyz]

Wouldn't sea water in the fuel wreck the engines???

The Uboots had separator filters. The fuel tanks located outside the pressure hull were of the "self compensating" type. That means that the consumed fuel was displaced by sea water. Of course, during navigation, water gets mixed with diesel oil although the difference in density and the fact that the fuel is taken from the top of the tanks (as opposed to car tanks which are emptied from the bottom) contributed to a generally low quantity of water present in the oil fed to the engines. Separator filters were still a necessity.

The real problem is not a certain quantity of water sprayed inside the pot (it was seldom done in the past in some high performance aircraft engines to lower the gas temeperature) but corrosion of the fuel lines and sediment deposits in the injector nozzles which will worsen combustion and, in the most severe cases, obturate them.

Since the heavy oil burned by the engine is still lighter than water (0.90-0.95kg/liter), as the fuel stores were consumed, a few trim tanks inside the hull had to be emptied to compensate for the weight difference.

:ping:

[captainprid]

The Uboots had separator filters. The fuel tanks located outside the pressure hull were of the "self compensating" type. That means that the consumed fuel was displaced by sea water. Of course, during navigation, water gets mixed with diesel oil although the difference in density and the fact that the fuel is taken from the top of the tanks (as opposed to car tanks which are emptied from the bottom) contributed to a generally low quantity of water present in the oil fed to the engines. Separator filters were still a necessity.

The real problem is not a certain quantity of water sprayed inside the pot (it was seldom done in the past in some high performance aircraft engines to lower the gas temeperature) but corrosion of the fuel lines and sediment deposits in the injector nozzles which will worsen combustion and, in the most severe cases, obturate them.

Since the heavy oil burned by the engine is still lighter than water (0.90-0.95kg/liter), as the fuel stores were consumed, a few trim tanks inside the hull had to be emptied to compensate for the weight difference.

:ping:

I see lol!! :up::up:

So do you think that under no circumstances short of both shafts snapping or total failure of the hull, the engines couldn't be totally put out of operation?? If that is the case, it would be nice to see them being forced to run under reduced rpm while they are repaired or some tangible result to them at least being damaged

[Bilge_Rat]

What i dont understand about the damage system is what the percentages say. How ****ed am i if both my engines are down to say 40 % or 30% There really is no difference in-game unless they are down to 0% My radio once went down to 23 % and my hydrophone to 44 % Didnt make no differance i could still use them both! It seems the damage system only understand when it hits 0% and then its detroyed beyond repair. I really dont think you can damage systems and as a result they dont work as good anymore. thus the so called "damage" is nothing more to show you how far it is from being destoyed and thats all. Really arcady if you ask me. In fact it works just like a health bar. When it reaches 0% your dead. At leasts in sh-3 when you damages your left engine the left blade would turn slower or stop.

I can't really say since I have only been damaged once by DCs in SH5 which is where those screens are from. Earlier on, when I was a bit too busy evading the escorts to take shots, I did get a message that the diesel engines were offline.

From what I remember in SH3 and sh4, it worked the same. I would be very surprised if the damage code was different. It worked well enough in SH3/4, why would the devs bother to recode it? :ping:

[TheElitePhoenix]

dont forget the duct tape, always gotta have duct tape for something :har:

And a Swiss Army knife! :rotfl2:

[Kptlt_Lynch]

Anyways...

Back on topic. Had the same thing happen. Got the s&*t kicked out of me by a DD.... been sitting on the bottom waiting for the Chief to get his 'repair destroyed equipment' ability in gear.... so far nadda.