View Full Version : I give up. SH5 uninstalled
Drifter
03-12-10, 08:40 PM
I have been playing SH5 for a while now. I really tried to give it a chance. Had installed some great mods (TheDarkWraith UI mod, etc). Plus released some of my own mods for it. But I have now decided to uninstall it. It's just way, way too buggy and unfinished. The rpg elements are also epic fail in my opinion. If I want rpg, I will play Oblivion. The UI and crew system is a complete disaster. Having to walk around the U-boat is fun at first, but after the novelty wears off, it becomes a major pain in the butt. Besides pretty graphics in SH5, I see no other reason to play it. Vanilla SH3 and SH4 are way, way better. Maybe in the future I will reinstall, but as of now, I'm am finished with SH5. Back to SH3 and SH4 for me. :)
SteamWake
03-12-10, 08:54 PM
Check back in a couple of months.. happy trails :salute:
Drifter
03-12-10, 08:55 PM
Check back in a couple of months.. happy trails :salute:
Will do. :sunny:
Vanilla SH3 and SH4 are way, way better.
:o
Ok, go for it.
VANILLA, (no patches or maybe 1.1 only) I wonder how much time it will take before you uninstall them.
Drifter
03-12-10, 09:24 PM
:o
Ok, go for it.
VANILLA, (no patches or maybe 1.1 only) I wonder how much time it will take before you uninstall them.
I grow tired of you always blindly defending SH5. You don't like any negative criticism of SH5 from other posters, do you? :stare:
I don't play them vanilla. I play them heavily modded. I just didn't think it would be fair to compare SH5 to a heavily modded SH3/SH4. Vanilla SH3/SH4 game mechanics, UI, and other features compared to vanilla SH5 are still way better in my opinion. But if all you care about is pretty graphics, go for it.
I grow tired of you always blindly defending SH5.
blindly defending SH5. :shifty:
Ok, like in this post I wrote 3 hours ago...http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=1311744&postcount=25
:nope:
Drifter
03-12-10, 09:34 PM
blindly defending SH5. :shifty:
Ok, like in this post I wrote 3 hours ago...http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=1311744&postcount=25
:nope:
Good point, I know the unfinished state of the game is somewhat frustrating.You call 'somewhat frustrating' criticism of SH5? Understatement of the year. :-?
I won't argue with you. I may come back to SH5 later if it ever gets completed (without having to pay extra for 'add-ons').
I was quoting kylania:
but don't act like there's nothing to complain about please.
And I said GOOD POINT !!! http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=1311744&postcount=25
that was 3 hours ago, plus I said this, (2 hours ago)
Increased chance of attack isn't enough for me
and you say that:
you always blindly defending SH5.
Whatever...
Drifter
03-12-10, 09:48 PM
Bye
Geez. I did give SH5 a fair chance. Modded it and and installed some other mods, too. Still not playable for me. Too broken and unfinished as is. These 'don't let the door hit you in the *ss on the way out' attitudes in this forum really sucks. I guess I can't say I'm surprised by the responses here. :nope:
At this point it's really a wise choice to uninstall and wait.
Just Had a bit of Narvik Mission. The Hydrophone guy was so useless.:nope:
If this was my boot, i would have shot him already:damn:.
Its funny. During the battle, I keep cursing and thinking how effective and reliable the Hydrophone Dude in SH3 was. And his abilities to follow the contact or to sweep around, giving you enough situation awareness.
Kinda difficult to to get used to the lazy Hans at the Hydro!!:dead:
One of many problems.
A few months; many patches, and big mods later, we'll try again!
Maybe I gave a hint to leave in dignity, if you wanna uninstall SH5 it´s ok with me.
But bash Meo because he don´t share your opinion, sorry mate but you lose some sympathy from my side.
Drifter
03-12-10, 09:56 PM
At this point it's really a wise choice to uninstall and wait.
Just Had a bit of Narvik Mission. The Hydrophone guy was so useless.:nope:
If this was my boot, i would have shot him already:damn:.
Its funny. During the battle, I keep cursing and thinking how effective and reliable the Hydrophone Dude in SH3 was. And his abilities to follow the contact or to sweep around, giving you enough situation awareness.
Kinda difficult to to get used to the lazy Hans at the Hydro!!:dead:
One of many problems.
A few months; many patches, and big mods later, we'll try again!
Well said. I am giving up on SH5 for now. But maybe later I will give it another chance. Will have to wait and see what UBI fixes with patches.
SteamWake
03-12-10, 09:56 PM
At this point it's really a wise choice to uninstall and wait.
Or just screw around with it... try some mods.. or just wait.
Hell you already paid for it dident you?
cappy70
03-12-10, 09:57 PM
One must wait a little bit longer than mods just starting to show up.
This reminds me also so much of how "broken" SH3 was.............
also,, hence,,,, especially since join date is just some week old, mods are not even ready!!!!!!!!!:salute::D
@ Drifter
I think it's all in your interpretation.
Look at my first post here in this thread:
Vanilla SH3 and SH4 are way, way better.
:o
Ok, go for it.
VANILLA, (no patches or maybe 1.1 only) I wonder how much time it will take before you uninstall them.
You took it as an offence, then you said that
I grow tired of you always blindly defending SH5.
Just to be clear, my post wasn't an offence, I QUOTED YOU, you said that Vanilla SH3 and SH4 are way, way better.
Then if it's really what you think, go for it, try SH3 and SH4 VANILLA, but I'm pretty sure it won't be long before you uninstall them. If you take it as an offence just because I disagree with you, then it's another story.
Drifter
03-12-10, 09:59 PM
Maybe I gave a hint to leave in dignity, if you wanna uninstall SH5 it´s ok with me.
But bash Meo because he don´t share your opinion, sorry mate but you lose some sympathy from my side.
I wasn't bashing him.
Drifter
03-12-10, 10:02 PM
@ Drifter
I think it's all in your interpretation.
Look at my first post here in this thread:
You took it as an offence, then you said that
Just to be clear, my post wasn't an offence, I QUOTED YOU, you said that Vanilla SH3 and SH4 are way, way better.
Then if it's really what you think, go for it, try SH3 and SH4 VANILLA, but I'm pretty sure it won't be long before you uninstall them. If you take it as an offence just because I disagree with you, then it's another story.
No problem. This was not intended to be a SH5 SUXX!! thread. I don't want SH5 to fail. But I won't sugar-coat the obvious. I call it like I see it. That's all.
As of now, I am heading back to heavily modded SH3/SH4. If and when SH5 is patched up and completed, I will give it another try.
This reminds me also so much of how "broken" SH3 was.............
It does?
The forum archives have very, very few negative posts about SH3 a few weeks after release.
Drifter
03-12-10, 10:12 PM
It does?
The forum archives have very, very few negative posts about SH3 a few weeks after release.
Correct. The initial release of SH3 was not half as broken or unfinished as SH5 is. Very worrying indeed. Rose-colored glasses? ;)
No problem. This was not intended to be a SH5 SUXX!! thread. I don't want SH5 to fail. But I won't sugar-coat the obvious. I call it like I see it. That's all.
As of now, I am heading back to heavily modded SH3/SH4. If and when SH5 is patched up and completed, I will give it another try.
No problem on my side too.
But I did the same (not because I really hate SH5, but my cpu is having a hard time in handling SH5).
But even with heavily modded SH3 I got tired, because it always come down to ''go there, sink ships and come back''
Now an interesting thing in SH5 is the dynamic campaign, but for me, what I'm really looking for is Wolfpacks (and interaction with BdU), now that would really be a different and refreshing experience! ...but I really wonder if we'll see that someday...:hmmm:
Drifter
03-12-10, 10:18 PM
No problem on my side too.
But I did the same (not because I really hate SH5, but my cpu is having a hard time in handling SH5).
But even with heavily modded SH3 I got tired, because it always come down to ''go there, sink ships and come back''
Now an interesting thing in SH5 is the dynamic campaign, but for me, what I'm really looking for is Wolfpacks (and interaction with BdU), now that would really be a different and refreshing experience! ...but I really wonder if we'll see that someday...:hmmm:
I am not saying that SH3/GWX is the end-all, be-all of games. It's not. I too grow tired of some of SH3's old hard-coded bugs/features. I really, really want SH5 to succeed. That is why I spent so much time trying to learn the new modding tools. Luckily it is much more moddable than SH3 was. The AI moddability is incredible. What we do need is UBI to fix the hard-coded problems in SH5.
Drifter
03-12-10, 10:28 PM
Now an interesting thing in SH5 is the dynamic campaign, but for me, what I'm really looking for is Wolfpacks (and interaction with BdU), now that would really be a different and refreshing experience! ...but I really wonder if we'll see that someday...:hmmm:
Wolfpacks are in the game. I noticed them in the campaign editor. But I'm not quite sure how they are implemented. And did you know damaged enemy ships can surrender? Cool feature, huh? :|\\
Wolfpacks are in the game.
From what I understand is that there are AI operated U-boats, but they are no coordination and/or interaction with BdU, but only ''chances'' that AI U-boats join the attack.
And did you know enemy ships can surrender? Cool, huh? :|\\
Really !? :o
How it works?
Warships, merchants or both?
Yeah, that seems to be cool !
Drifter
03-12-10, 10:35 PM
From what I understand is that there are AI operated U-boats, but they are no coordination and/or interaction with BdU, but only ''chances'' that AI U-boats join the attack.
Really !? :o
How it works?
Warships, merchants or both?
I think any ship can surrender. Maybe even Allied ships. Not sure, though. Their engines will shut down and guns will stop upon surrendering. Whether you decide to blast them out of the water after that is up to you. :haha:
Look in the scripts folder. You will see the different AI scripts. The U-boat AI script is very, very interesting! :arrgh!:
The U-boat AI script is very, very interesting! :arrgh!:
What do you mean?
Tell me more!:timeout:
Drifter
03-12-10, 10:42 PM
What do you mean?
Tell me more!:timeout:
This is all from memory, but if I remember the AI scripts correctly, they can do practically anything. And I mean anything. All tactics can be adjusted. Hell, even new ones can be added. As an example, you can adjust whether U-boats shadow a convoy, how long, etc. There are also ship 'false surrenders', where the ship pretends to surrender, then start shooting and attempts escape. But the script notes say this feature isn't implemented yet.
This is all from memory, but if I remember the scripts correctly, they can do practically anything. And I mean anything. All tactics can be adjusted. Hell, even new ones can be added. As an example, you can adjust whether U-boats shadow a convoy, how long, etc. There are also ship 'false surrenders', where the ship pretends to surrender, then start shooting and attempts escape. But the script notes say this feature isn't implemented yet.
Wow, looks promising! :yeah:
Drifter
03-12-10, 10:50 PM
Wow, looks promising! :yeah:
AI U-boat submerged times, depths, speeds, attack tactics, etc can also be adjusted. :woot:
That is why it pains me so much to see other parts of SH5 so broken. There is much potential here!
Safe-Keeper
03-12-10, 10:50 PM
And did you know enemy ships can surrender? Cool, huh? :|\\
I saw both "HasSurrender" and "HasAbandonShip" in a screenshot. Opens for possibilities, all right.
AI U-boat submerged times, depths, speeds, attack tactics, etc can also be adjusted. :woot:
That is why it pains me so much to see other parts of SH5 so broken. There is much potential here!
I got another question, if you don't mind.
How do you see it, is it in: data/Scripts/AI ?
And how do you open the files ? (I know I'm really ignorant when it comes to modding :oops:, but I got interest :arrgh!:)
Thanks!
Drifter
03-12-10, 11:00 PM
I got another question if you don't mind.
How do you see it, is it in: data/Scripts/AI ?
And how do you open the files ? (I know I'm really ignorant when it comes to modding :oops:, but I got interest :arrgh!:)
Thanks!
Yes, that folder I think (SH5 not installed right now). Now left click on the AI script file of your choice and choose 'select program from the list'. Scroll down and choose notepad. Check the 'always use selected program' button. Click 'ok'. Should be visible now for editing.
Some of the AI files are hard-coded and cannot be viewed correctly. I really don't remember the file extension names, though.
Yes, that folder I think (SH5 not installed right now). Now right click on the AI script file of your choice and choose 'open with'. Check the 'always open with' button and choose notepad. Should be visible now for editing.
Some of the AI files are hard-coded and cannot be viewed correctly. I really don't remember the file extension names, though.
Ok, thanks!
I didn't think it was so simple with the notepad, however, modding those files doesn't look that easy...:-?
Drifter
03-12-10, 11:11 PM
Ok, thanks!
I didn't think it was so simple with the notepad, however, modding those files doesn't look that easy...:-?
Much simpler than hex editing. :sunny:
Much simpler than hex editing. :sunny:
I didn't know what was hex editing, so I checked on google, yes, it seems to be quite complex.
But, I'm really curious to know how to modify those files in SH5.
Don't feel forced to reply, you did enough, I'll check on my own.
Thanks! :salute:
Drifter
03-12-10, 11:27 PM
I didn't know what was hex editing, so I checked on google, yes, it seems to be quite complex.
But, I'm really curious to know how to modify those files in SH5.
Don't feel forced to reply, you did enough, I'll check on my own.
Thanks! :salute:
I hope we are talking about the same files. I don't have the game installed right now, so I can't check the exact AI file location. The moddable AI files should already be in notepad form with readable text. If the files you are opening in notepad look like jibberish, they are hard-coded, and the wrong files.
I hope we are talking about the same files. I don't have the game installed right now, so I can't check the exact AI file location. The moddable AI files should already be in notepad form with readable text. If the files you are opening in notepad look like jibberish, they are hard-coded, and the wrong files.
It looks like this:
----
strategy SubStrategies(Sub)
{
strategies
{
Attack,
Navigate
}
}
# Attacks an enemy contact
strategy Attack(Sub)
{
precond
{
Sub:CanFire()
}
strategies
{
ShipAttack,
SubmarineAttack
}
}
strategy ShipAttack(Sub)
{
precond
{
!Sub:ContactIs(SUBMARINE)
}
strategies
{
TorpedoAttack,
CannonAttack
}
}
----
It's much longer but I didn't want to take too much space here. ;)
Meo and Drifter chatting so nicely. It brought a little tear to my eye. :sunny:
Drifter
03-12-10, 11:36 PM
It looks like this:
----
It's much longer but I didn't want to take too much place here. ;)
Yeah, that's it. Python scripting language. Take the time to learn scripting by looking at examples of other scripts. It's really not as hard as it looks. It will be worth the effort.
Drifter
03-12-10, 11:36 PM
Meo and Drifter chatting so nicely. It brought a little tear to my eye. :sunny:
The world must be ending. :rotfl2:
Meo and Drifter chatting so nicely. It brought a little tear to my eye. :sunny:
:haha::yeah:
Yeah, that's it. Python scripting language. Take the time to learn scripting by looking at examples of other scripts. It's really not as hard as it looks. It will be worth the effort.
Yes, I will, thanks again!
Drifter
03-12-10, 11:43 PM
:haha::yeah:
Yes, I will, thanks again!
To get you started, try here:
http://www.sthurlow.com/python/
http://docs.python.org/tutorial/
http://coolnamehere.com/geekery/python/pythontut.html
http://wiki.python.org/moin/BeginnersGuide
Please note that many of the functions in these tutorial examples will not be available in SH5. Again, look at other script examples in SH5 to see what can and cannot be done. Good luck! :sunny:
At least they say that:
If you have never programmed before in your life, then do I have the perfect programming language for you. It's called Python
I've saved your links.
Great! :up:
Drifter
03-12-10, 11:52 PM
At least they say that:
I've saved your links.
Great! :up:
We still don't know all the script command functions available in SH5. Maybe a list will be released someday?
Yet another person that should watch how fast the hatch swings as he leaves.
Nordmann
03-12-10, 11:53 PM
Yet another person that should watch how fast the hatch swings as he leaves.
The hatch never opened in the first place. He was stuck on the tower, with no way in, while the chief took her down to 100 metres!
Drifter
03-12-10, 11:54 PM
The hatch never opened in the first place. He was stuck on the tower, with no way in, while the chief took her down to 100 metres!
That actually happened to me while playing. I kept yelling 'let me in!!!' as the U-boat dove, but no one would unlock the hatch. Bastards. :rotfl2:
Nordmann
03-12-10, 11:58 PM
That actually happened to me while playing. I kept yelling 'let me in!!!' as the U-boat dove, but no one would unlock the hatch. Bastards. :rotfl2:
Heh, indeed, that was what I was alluding to. :smug:
Armistead
03-13-10, 12:19 AM
That actually happened to me while playing. I kept yelling 'let me in!!!' as the U-boat dove, but no one would unlock the hatch. Bastards. :rotfl2:
Only about 95% of people think the game is FUBAR, so I wouldn't worry about going back to SH3/4...least you can enjoy the game. Right now this is an unplayable arcade joke, no way a serious player could enjoy it.
BigBadVuk
03-13-10, 01:22 AM
I agre..And when i just think that we all tought 2 weeks ago that DRM will be our greatest problem with this game! :damn:
I dont know shud i cry or shud i laugh!:nope:
Elder-Pirate
03-13-10, 02:04 AM
The hatch never opened in the first place. He was stuck on the tower, with no way in, while the chief took her down to 100 metres!
Well!! Quit holding me in suspense. :o Did he swim back to the surface???
Need to look into who installed that hatch on the deck at the factory, probably named Bernard.:haha:
Drifter
03-13-10, 02:05 AM
Well!! Quit holding me in suspense. :o Did he swim back to the surface???
Need to look into who installed that hatch on the deck at the factory, probably named Bernard.:haha:
He got wet. That is for sure. :har:
Drifter
03-13-10, 02:37 AM
Well, I have decided to reinstall SH5 and give it another try. I will also be releasing some more SH5 mods. :smug:
karamazovnew
03-13-10, 04:18 AM
Well, I have decided to reinstall SH5 and give it another try. I will also be releasing some more SH5 mods. :smug:
I was about to suggest reinstalling. A patch should come soon and we need all the Beta Testers we can get =))
It really is annoying to see nice features that were never finished. My only fear is that the team might've been pulled for another title. We might never see those things finished :wah:.
Drifter
03-13-10, 04:22 AM
I was about to suggest reinstalling. A patch should come soon and we need all the Beta Testers we can get =))
It really is annoying to see nice features that were never finished. My only fear is that the team might've been pulled for another title. We might never see those things finished :wah:.
I really hope you are wrong about that. :o There are many broken hard-coded things that modders cannot fix.
karamazovnew
03-13-10, 04:33 AM
I know that, but I'm talking from experience. UBM never received a patch for the unusable Notepad. Neither was the Hydrophone Volume method implemented (and it still isn't! even though the manual states that you can change the volume). There's even one image showing an Active Skills button bar near the bottom of the screen.
If this were Bethesda I might be more optimistic about it... But right now I'm scared. The game clearly shows the devs meant business. Let's just hope they're able to finish the job. If they can, it might be something like the Gibraltar repair section of Das Boot. If they don't, it will be St. Nazaire air raid all over again :haha:
Drifter
03-15-10, 04:55 AM
Well, after giving SH5 a long second chance, I have to say after much disgust I have uninstalled for good this time. Not worth the time or effort anymore in my opinion. The design and state of SH5 is like a slap in the face to all those dedicated players of SH3 and SH4. It's now obvious UBI was targeting the younger audience with totally dumbed-down controls and pretty graphics for a quick profit. It is not the modders' job to fix or complete this broken, unfinished piece of ****. I wish all the best to the other modders here who want to spend the time trying to save SH5 (without getting paid to do it). Maybe that's what UBI had intended on in the first place- for the modders to finish and fix it for free. I will not be a part of that anymore. Good luck. I wash my hands of this dirty SH5. Back to SH3 and SH4 for me.
As the old sayings go... A pig with lipstick is still a pig. And you can't polish a turd. :88)
subsimlee
03-15-10, 08:52 AM
Like you Drifter, I give up....pulling the game together into an immersive and intuitive whole is frustrating and clumsy even with the great mods so far. I'd live with it though, if not for being unable to play it for hours the last two Saturdays and again yesterday because Ubi's servers were down ( and I don't care why they were down.......down is down ) That did it. I'm taking it back to GameStop. I'll buy it back when a more reasonable verification process is put in place.......sad.......
ironkross
03-15-10, 09:35 AM
I'd think about taking mine back but I can't find my f'ng receipt :damn::damn:
I wonder if I could exchange for Das Boot on blueray, if that exists. ? :hmmm:
Jan Kyster
03-15-10, 09:48 AM
... A pig with lipstick is still a pig. And you can't polish a turd. :88)Sorry to correct you... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBj6PonX14A
Reg. the pigs... no comments :D
subsimlee
03-15-10, 09:48 AM
Ironkross, you got me thinking. It has been policy in the past that retailers wouldn't refund for opened software. I wonder how that can stand up anymore since producers like Ubi tie software useability to their servers. Makes for an interesting legal position for the retailers distribution rights and obligations..........I can see fireworks ahead.
kylania
03-15-10, 09:56 AM
Of course it's not finished, we haven't even had the first "real" patch. :cry: It's unrealistic to expect a fully polished sim out of the box, sadly.
Rockin Robbins
03-15-10, 10:21 AM
As soon as the money leaves your pocket on a turkey like this the damage is done. You've voted for Ubi to continue its slimy practices and whether you uninstall or not, you have paid for the next generation of lousy software from a company who wouldn't know a customer if they spoke French.
When we quit financing failure we'll have enough money to finance success. Ubi ain't it. They must be allowed a quiet and dignified death so another customer-friendly company can take their place.
That means no more money to Ubi, no matter what the bright shiny promises, no matter even if the promises seem fulfilled. Their corporate culture is inexcusable, their arrogance beneath contempt. We need to be done with them.:down:
Gunnodayak
03-15-10, 10:29 AM
I haven't been posted in this SH5 section lately since I gave up having hopes and playing this epic fail called SH5. But today, reading this post, noticing the manner in which some of you are trying to put Drifter in a bad light it's really making me sick. Fortunately for some, this forum doesn't allow curses. It's obvious that this SH5 forum is not for me. And for Drifter and for all the others that are being attacked by the SH5 army of defenders, a little advice: Please try not to enter this SH5 forum anymore, it will give you just headache. SH4 and SH3 forums have some other kind of people around, if you know what I mean.
Faamecanic
03-15-10, 10:38 AM
I haven't been posted in this SH5 section lately since I gave up having hopes and playing this epic fail called SH5. But today, reading this post, noticing the manner in which some of you are trying to put Drifter in a bad light it's really making me sick. Fortunately for some, this forum doesn't allow curses. It's obvious that this SH5 forum is not for me. And for Drifter and for all the others that are being attacked by the SH5 army of defenders, a little advice: Please try not to enter this SH5 forum anymore, it will give you just headache. SH4 and SH3 forums have some other kind of people around.
Bah... when SH3 came out and the convoy AI was so-so and the Hydo operator was replaced with a bunch of bananas (remember that folks), when batteries recharged even when you ran out of fuel, or in the case of the XXI they didnt charge hardly at all, or weather that remained stormy for MONTHS on end (and many argued that this is the way it is in the Atlantic.... even in the Carribean) people that werent happy were told to shut up.
When SH4 came out a big turd, and people complained we were all called whiners and SH4 was great. To me SH4 is STILL a half baked Turd... and thats after I PAID for the final patch (ie Uboat missions) hoping that I would finally see a 90% bug free Pacific theater.
Now SH5 comes out.... didnt think it was possible to stink up the joint more than SH4, and call this a gold release. Ubi managed it... Who knows...maybe UBI's new business model is to release a game that is virtually unfinished, then make the customer pay for patches that will bring it up to SH4's level! Ubi ROCKS :rock:
Dont let the fanbois get to you mate..... they will get bored with SH5 (like they did SH3 and 4) and those of us that are serious about our subsims, and are really tired of UBI screwing us with each release, will be here (those same people are the NICE people in the SH3 and 4 forums now...like CCIP, GOLDENRIVET, Ducimus, RockinRobbin to name a few). I see A LOT OF SH supporters, serious MOD makers, and long time forum members that have always given Ubi the benefit of the doubt with SH3 and 4...totally PISSED OFF in this forum at Ubi's taking advantage of us.
bigboywooly
03-15-10, 10:40 AM
Sorry you feel that way Drifter
Some of your mods have come in very handy
I was pinning my hopes on SH5 as a decent game
After nearly 3 years of heavy modding in SH3 took its toll and couldnt stand to even start it for along time
So was hoping SH5 would be a handy replacement - could never get on with SH4 either depite some great mods
Will stick with SH5 for now though its nice to take a IX out in SH3 once in a while
Learn some more about the files and structures and hope for a decent patch
Really does have potential to be a pretty good game just not now
Though am not taking it seriously yet
Just an arcade shoot em up below sea
See you on the other side
So to speak
:salute:
SSN*593
03-15-10, 12:12 PM
No game should ever have to be modded; we should have OPTIONS designed within that give us the ability to turn stuff ON or OFF. SH5, DRM and the "lets wait for patches and mods" attitude are BS. A game like this should be developed with the subsim community's input. MSFS did it this way over the years with the flightsim community and look how great their last game ended up. But it appears that their is little DEMAND for great PC simulations any longer. The MTV kiddy arcade CONSOLE revolution is upon us which has contributed to the DEATH of PC gaming. Ohhh well, it was fun while it lasted--RIP hardcore simmers!
Hi! I have big problem.Game Freezing When Syncing Save Files.Please help me.
Gunnodayak
03-15-10, 03:22 PM
Hi! I have big problem.Game Freezing When Syncing Save Files.Please help me.
You can try to uninstall it, I have a strong feeling that all your problems related to SH5 will suddenly vanish ... At least, this is my advice when it's about SH5. For a more dedicated and specialized help, maybe you should try to post somewhere when "defenders of the faith" (they know who they are) are in the first line.
oscar19681
03-15-10, 03:28 PM
I have been playing SH5 for a while now. I really tried to give it a chance. Had installed some great mods (TheDarkWraith UI mod, etc). Plus released some of my own mods for it. But I have now decided to uninstall it. It's just way, way too buggy and unfinished. The rpg elements are also epic fail in my opinion. If I want rpg, I will play Oblivion. The UI and crew system is a complete disaster. Having to walk around the U-boat is fun at first, but after the novelty wears off, it becomes a major pain in the butt. Besides pretty graphics in SH5, I see no other reason to play it. Vanilla SH3 and SH4 are way, way better. Maybe in the future I will reinstall, but as of now, I'm am finished with SH5. Back to SH3 and SH4 for me. :)
I respect you opinion. But i dont understand why everybody is so bugged of my the bugs in sh-5. I also experience the bugs but they dont effect me to the point it becomes unplayable . I can deal with most of the bugs by simply save and reload . Some are indeed anoying but they can be dealth with with a couple of patches. The rest of the bugs and stuff liken the UI i solve with the great mods that people made.
capthelm
03-15-10, 03:38 PM
fair winds and fair seas.:salute:
Elder-Pirate
03-15-10, 07:02 PM
:wah: I never got my copy of SHV........:cry:
Wait...Now I remember,:hmmm: I never ordered it. :arrgh!:
OH geez gotta git for theirs an Akizuki coming on my case at 33 knts. DIVE DIVE dam-it and get the blazes back to SHIV forum. :o
BlackSpot
03-15-10, 07:48 PM
You can try to uninstall it, I have a strong feeling that all your problems related to SH5 will suddenly vanish ... At least, this is my advice when it's about SH5. For a more dedicated and specialized help, maybe you should try to post somewhere when "defenders of the faith" (they know who they are) are in the first line.
You seem to like giving people your advice. Not very constructive is it though?
What is your problem? It seems to be eating at you because other people like the game. Personally, I'd prefer you kept your advice to yourself.
Drifter
03-15-10, 08:21 PM
I know some here are really enjoying SH5 in it's current state. Thanks everyone for not outright attacking me after that last post. Maybe someday SH5 will be made great by modders. But as of now, I see no reason to invest the time and effort into releasing mods or 'fixes' for SH5 when we don't even know how much will be fixed in future patches. And I still think many of the performace issues people are experiencing is due to sloppy coding.
I know this sounds crazy, but I get the feeling that many on the UBI dev. team who made SH5 are not the same people who made SH3 and SH4. Too many radical changes. Why on earth they threw out everything that was good about SH3 and SH4 is beyond me. :nope: By going and reinventing the wheel, they made it square. I guess they were targeting the younger rpg, pretty graphics, go boom boom crowd.
BlackSpot
03-15-10, 08:38 PM
Good post Drifter. To me, there seems to be lot of dumbing down generally, not just in video games, but also in TV programs and in advertising for example. This game was obviously rushed out of the door. I've worked in advertising and I remember an art director once saying, "There's never enough time to do the job properly, but they always find the time to alter it afterwards"
Cheers.
Keeper Garrett
03-15-10, 08:43 PM
SH3 wasn't so bad vanilla, just after the mods you realise how much more complete and "full" it could have been. I couldn't do without the named ships in the log you get with SHC. I really liked looking at which Fiji class cruiser I sank and thinking about how that would change history.
Gunnodayak
03-16-10, 02:50 AM
You seem to like giving people your advice. Not very constructive is it though?
What is your problem? It seems to be eating at you because other people like the game. Personally, I'd prefer you kept your advice to yourself.
Hey, John McClane wannabe, we're not shooting "Die Hard 5 - Almighty mediocre RPG casual console player's revenge". Sorry, we're not casting yet, but you can try to give us your resumee in the near future.
I didn't asked you something either so you may try to lay low and stay low.
Erik the Black
03-16-10, 04:03 AM
Bah... when SH3 came out... weather that remained stormy for MONTHS on end (and many argued that this is the way it is in the Atlantic.... even in the Carribean)
God, I hated that. So bad. It was probably one of the more irritating things about SH3 that got to me. It's what caused me to stumble across this place during my search for some sort of cheat code to change the weather. My Subsim lurking/Silent Hunter modding career was born.
It was all I could do to keep from registering and responding to the people who insisted there were 20 foot waves, 40 knot winds, rolling rain squalls, and heavy fog off the US east coast for months on end non-stop. I was actually so irritated that a few months later, I was actually out there, 35 miles out off the NC coast - not a cloud in the sky, and seas like glass, I was tempted to take a picture and post it here with the caption "NO."
Never got around to it though, heh.
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