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She-Wolf
03-09-10, 07:29 AM
Not from me either - despite having a dual processor machine, 4Gb DDR2 memory and a freshly installed Geforce 9400 512 mb with latest driver, the game is unplayable on Windows Seven x64. Footle-pip, I said.
I shall now try it on dear old XP - but that only has Geforce 7600 256mb, so maybe I shall have to swap cards. And does this patch work for UK please?
Not 'appy, sulk, and from the negative comments on here I doubt my mood is going to brighten.
Mcbobbit
03-09-10, 07:54 AM
Of course there is good news. I like the game, it's far from perfect, but there is lots of potential. Most sh games need a fair bit of tinkering.

Regarding your preformance issues, you are trying to run a graphics heavy 2010 game on a budget htpc card from 2008. If you realy want to play this game i would suggest one of the 5000 series ATI cards. The min recommended NVIDIA ocard is a 8800 series, both your cards are way below those specs.
ParaB
03-09-10, 08:02 AM
AS McBobbit said, you're trying to run a rather demanding game on absolutely low-end cards that are not meant for performance-hungry games at all. No amount of tweaking will get you decent performance, so your only viable option is, I'm afraid, to upgrade your hardware.
She-Wolf
03-09-10, 09:01 AM
oh chaps - I got the 9400 because I thought it was a later card than the 7600 and 8800 - which is the recommended spec. 9 series, you would expect, is later than 8 series isn't it? What have I done wrong? Is this not the next series?
Mud
03-09-10, 09:09 AM
oh chaps - I got the 9400 because I thought it was a later card than the 7600 and 8800 - which is the recommended spec. 9 series, you would expect, is later than 8 series isn't it? What have I done wrong? Is this not the next series?

Im sorry to say but your card is crap :down: http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/video_lookup.php?cpu=GeForce+9400

scroll down to see benchmark, itīs not for gaming at least not for newest games


Mud
She-Wolf
03-09-10, 09:21 AM
Mud, that's a useful site. Thank you, bookmarked for future

OK, point taken, I boo-booed.
I thought it was a bit cheap on price, and light-weight...

So I have to get ANOTHER card, and it is going to cost about Ģ100 from the sound - what would you-who-know about these things recommend? I have always used Nvidia up to now - should I change?
cappy70
03-09-10, 09:26 AM
If you go with any card in the Nvidia 200-series you'll be "safe".

ATI/Nvidia is a question of personal preference and money of course.

Every other year Nvidia/ATI take "turns" on the "who-have-the-fastest-card throne".:salute::ping:
She-Wolf
03-09-10, 09:29 AM
so would this do?

GEFORCE GTS 250
ParaB
03-09-10, 09:30 AM
I have used both NVIDIA and ATI cards in the past, both offer good performance for their prices. I'm currently using a GTX 260 and am very happy with it, used an ATI 3870 before than, was happy with that one, too.

IMO the best way for buying a new gfx card is to set yourself a certain budget and then compare cards' performances within that price range via sites like Tom's Hardware etc...

EDIT: the 250 series are decent cards, although I'd go for the 260s if your budget allows.

Take a look at this chart for comparison:

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/charts/gaming-graphics-cards-charts-2009-high-quality-update-3/Far-Cry-2,1678.html
Mud
03-09-10, 09:32 AM
yep itīs a personal taste, I always had geforce and bought a new system with a GTS 240.
But in the future I might change to ATI.

Mud
She-Wolf
03-09-10, 09:36 AM
OK, got to go out and set up someone's wireless network now, will see to it when I come back... meanwhile.... anyone want an Nvidia Geforce 9400 card? New, only used once... only Ģ50! (sob)

I joke...
FIREWALL
03-09-10, 09:37 AM
@ She-Wolf.... Did the game during install say you met all the requirments ?

All boxes Green checked ?
Mud
03-09-10, 09:43 AM
Good point from Firewall, donīt waste Ģ on a new card if your system canīt run SH5

Mud
Otis38
03-09-10, 09:46 AM
If you go with any card in the Nvidia 200-series you'll be "safe".

ATI/Nvidia is a question of personal preference and money of course.

Every other year Nvidia/ATI take "turns" on the "who-have-the-fastest-card throne".:salute::ping:

I've got a 285 and it's been running smooth with graphics set to high...
FIREWALL
03-09-10, 09:51 AM
I posted this elsewhere.

Installed SH5 on an old rig... And it gave me all green checks

P4 3.0 hyperthread
2 gb ddr
7600 gt 512mb

Set game Graphics at medium and.... It played Flawlessly.
java`s revenge
03-09-10, 10:27 AM
just what i have to add is that the drivers for the nvidia and ati
aren`t perfect either.

I have a nvidia 260gtx and i think that i have finally a driver
which doesn`t give me errors.

(i don`t know the driver version because i am sitting behind the
laptop now)
Gammel
03-09-10, 11:08 AM
go for the GTS250 if you're still looking for a new graphics card - you won't regret! :)
This one is very well in price / performance relation and has low power consumtion in idle mode.
i have the one from MSI with 1GB RAM - standard edition, its my best vga so far and the first nvidia one i bought after many years.
A 8800 as mentioned will also do the job if you can get still your hands on it. It's basically the same chip.
She-Wolf
03-10-10, 05:12 AM
@ She-Wolf.... Did the game during install say you met all the requirments ?

All boxes Green checked ?

Firewall, everything checked except the gpu memory, which called for 512mb on the specs. My Geforce7600GT had 256mb. It had been one of a bridged pair in the XP machine. SO, I thought, right, I will go for a higher series, but as has become evident, I know very little about graphics cards, and when I saw the 9400 on sale for a 'good price' new (har-har), I thought OOH!! I can manage that.

oops. Well, Best Beloved has come to my rescue - my Knight in Shining. Even better, someone had given him a thank you voucher for Amazon for some electrical work he helped them with, so that pays for half of the Geforce 250 we have just ordered. Whooopeee!:yeah:

Gammel - done :) thanks all