Starcraft II Wings of liberty [Archive] - SUBSIM Radio Room Forums

kiwi_2005

03-08-10, 03:50 AM

:rock:
Checked my email and read about the invite. Going to download tomorrow providing its around 2 or 3 gigs as i dont really want to dl a beta that's hitting 5gigs.

Anyone else tried the beta or is this old news and im just late in getting the invite! :haha:

StarCraft® II: Wings of Liberty™ Beta Test Invitation

Congratulations! You’ve been selected to participate in the beta test of StarCraft® II: Wings of Liberty™.

As a beta test participant, you’ll have the chance to experience the multiplayer gameplay of StarCraft II: Wings of Liberty and explore the social-networking, matchmaking, and other new features of the revamped Battle.net® online-gaming service. Throughout the StarCraft II beta, you’ll be able to take part in cooperative and competitive battles as the terrans, protoss, and zerg -- and at the same time, you’ll be helping us test the stability of the Battle.net service and fine-tune the game balance prior to launch. We look forward to hearing your feedback, and we’ll see you on Battle.net!

Dowly

03-08-10, 04:23 AM

Wings of liberty? Are you ****ing kidding me? WINGS OF LIBERTY?!?! :har::har::har:

kiwi_2005

03-08-10, 05:14 AM

:har: I have no idea whats farking funny :DL

Are you laughing at me cause this beta came out ages ago and like usual kiwi in his slumber just discovered it or are you laughing cause of the stupid title! :DL

Dowly

03-08-10, 05:32 AM

The ridiculous title! :har:

kiwi_2005

03-10-10, 02:41 AM

All i can say atm is THOR! Build this unit and listen to Arnold speak! :) They're big and powerful and the murauders are cool units too, yes im playing the Terans. The beta is multiplayer only with an option to play against the AI only in very easy mode. Ive been doing this last few hours just to get use to the races before i go up against players.

I can't help thinking all SC2 is an grfx update of SC1 with extra units added, even the same sounds are there. The Campaigns better blow us away or the only ppl that will still be playing SC2 after the rest of us are done with the campaigns, is the Koreans.

Still its worth buying when it comes out. :rock:

HunterICX

07-22-10, 05:17 AM

*Bump!*

5 days remaining untill its release :yeah:
can't wait :D

HunterICX

CCIP

07-22-10, 05:35 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_E83GfWM-A

Nice new story-oriented trailer just popped up.

I will not be getting the game for a while since I'm not especially interested in the multiplayer and I've got plenty of SP games to burn through yet, but I do eventually look forward to the single player campaign and story!

HunterICX

07-22-10, 05:41 AM

Knowing Blizzard the story must be good :rock:

HunterICX

Task Force

07-22-10, 05:46 AM

Id buy it if it wasnt so much money...

Arclight

07-22-10, 07:15 AM

I'd buy it if it didn't have limited resources. :hmmm:

Yeah, probably fold when the price goes down. SP experience looks very promising. :yep:

* not that relevant, but it's Starcraft: http://kotaku.com/5591285/before-starcraft-there-was-warhammer-40k

Dowly

07-22-10, 08:07 AM

* not that relevant, but it's Starcraft: http://kotaku.com/5591285/before-starcraft-there-was-warhammer-40k

IIRC, back in the day, Blizzard tried to get the rights from Games Workshop to make a Warhammer game, which they didn't, so they changed a few things and made Warcraft instead. :hmmm:

Wolfehunter

07-22-10, 04:05 PM

IIRC, back in the day, Blizzard tried to get the rights from Games Workshop to make a Warhammer game, which they didn't, so they changed a few things and made Warcraft instead. :hmmm:Ah.. I wondered about that. there relationship is very close two worlds. :hmmm:

Dowly

07-22-10, 06:17 PM

Ah.. I wondered about that. there relationship is very close two worlds. :hmmm:

Blizzard struck a deal with Games Workshop to create a a PC version of the "Warhammer" table top miniatures game. After completing work on the game, the deal fell through, and Blizzard, left with unfinished and unpaid work on Warhammer, created "WarCraft". WarCraft's factions of Orcs and Trolls versus Dwarves and Elves bears many similarities to the Warhammer factions. This does not explain the correlations between Warhammer 40,000 and StarCraft however. For example, the Zerg and the alien hive mind Tyranids of 40K look similar and are nearly identical in concept, and Space Marines are literally named the same in both games. In "WarCraft III", if you repeatedly click a griffon rider he will say "This Warhammer cost 40K", 40K being a shortening of 40,000.

From http://diablo.wikia.com/wiki/Blizzard_Entertainment

:salute:

papa_smurf

07-23-10, 06:19 AM

I'm just waiting for Diablo III

HunterICX

07-23-10, 06:38 AM

I'm just waiting for Diablo III

Same here, and hoping for a Warcraft IV (RTS!!!)

HunterICX

kiwi_2005

07-23-10, 07:07 PM

Knowing Blizzard the story must be good :rock:

HunterICX

For once I agree with you :DL.

Bring it on Blizzard :rock:

Arclight

07-27-10, 06:10 AM

Oooh, fancy box. Now I see why they jacked up the price. :hmmm:

Oh, and: damn you, Hunter. :nope:

:O:

HunterICX

07-27-10, 06:13 AM

Oooh, fancy box. Now I see why they jacked up the price. :hmmm:

Oh, and: damn you, Hunter. :nope:

:O:

:smug:

Practice, and perhaps you can make me pay in MP :O:

HunterICX

Arclight

07-27-10, 06:40 AM

I need practice for that? :D

12GB install. :o

HunterICX

07-27-10, 06:45 AM

I need practice for that? :D

http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/15/hearhearhearingearssmil.gif

Do I hear a challenge?

HunterICX

Arclight

07-27-10, 07:50 AM

No, just a pompous ass flapping his gums. :roll:

Running ultra graphics setting (all maxed), textures on high ("need" 1GB card for ultra), 1280x960, never seen it go as low as 30FPS, ussualy falls somewhere between 35 to 60FPS. Framerate fluctuates a bit with environment though; think they still have some room to optimise performance.

*oh right, 8800GTS512

About 40% CPU usage on average on Q9550@ 2.87GHz, 1.2GB RAM used. Just a quick test at the start of a skirmish, but should give some indication.

*ah, didn't see any control for anti-aliasing, which is, quite frankly, retarded. Not a lot of jaggies, but no way to reduce it either unless you force through driver.

Arclight

07-27-10, 09:37 AM

Feature that truly impressed me, something rather rare:

You can set different devices for audio and voice, like you can for most voice communication applications (Teamspeak, for example). Doesn't make a difference for most, but does for some like me. Audio from the game comes over my soundcard and out the speakers, while voice goes in and out over my headset plugged into the on-board soundcard. Keeps things nicely separated.

Also, you have volume sliders that override the volume when recieving voice, dampening music and sound-effects to make sure you can hear it clearly.

Very nice features. Most games don't really bother with a good sound engine. :up:

HunterICX

07-27-10, 09:59 AM

Happy buyer, comes home with package
reads box ''Completamente en Castellano'' aka ''Dubbed over in Spanish''

*walks outside*
http://www.michaelaquinn.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/fffuuu.gif

but there's hope...it seems if you register your product you are able to download a full client version or perhaps at least language packages if they are available.

HunterICX

ReFaN

07-27-10, 12:43 PM

Happy buyer, comes home with package
reads box ''Completamente en Castellano'' aka ''Dubbed over in Spanish''

*walks outside*

but there's hope...it seems if you register your product you are able to download a full client version or perhaps at least language packages if they are available.

HunterICX

Best of luck, dubbed crap is the worst crap.

:03:

HunterICX

07-27-10, 12:49 PM

Best of luck, dubbed crap is the worst crap.

:03:

You don't have to remind me of that :shifty:

honestly, that the game industry can't just release a multi-language version of their games. or at least the courtesy of having the original version or the dubbed as a option before you install it.

HunterICX

Weiss Pinguin

07-27-10, 12:58 PM

Dunno if Imma be getting the game (would probably fry my system), but the soundtrack sounds truly epic. The title track sounds like Medal of Honor and Command & Conquer mixed with a bit of Star Wars for good measure :rock:

Dowly

07-27-10, 01:04 PM

honestly, that the game industry can't just release a multi-language version of their games. or at least the courtesy of having the original version or the dubbed as a option before you install it.

HunterICX

Aye, this is silly. But what is even sillier is that there are plenty of games that are sold as multi-language versions, but not in countries like, in your case, Spain. And these versions usually have four or so languages and one of them is always spanish. :doh:

Wolfehunter

07-27-10, 02:33 PM

From http://diablo.wikia.com/wiki/Blizzard_Entertainment

:salute:Thanks. hey Dowly whats with the hot chick pics. :hmmm:

Dowly

07-27-10, 02:41 PM

hey Dowly whats with the hot chick pics. :hmmm:

Gotta have one. :DL

Ow and anyone planning on getting SCII thru the Blizzard Downloader, here be a tip, go to View->Preferences and disable the peer-to-peer thing. This results in *MUCH faster download and your internet doesnt get bogged down by the outgoing traffic. :salute:

*MUCH as in from 12hrs down to 2hrs.

SgtPotato

07-27-10, 03:04 PM

Man... I got the game from the midnight opening and started installing it. I couldn't stop playing and I have to make up a excuse for a day off from work! :har:

Spike88

07-27-10, 03:33 PM

I totally want to get it, but I'm unsure how well my computer would handle it.

Too bad there isn't a demo. :down:

Crécy

07-27-10, 03:56 PM

Too bad there isn't a demo. :down:

That^

kiwi_2005

07-27-10, 06:23 PM

I totally want to get it, but I'm unsure how well my computer would handle it.

Too bad there isn't a demo. :down:

Unless you have a pc older than this one you might have problems

cpu - Athlon XP 2.6ghz
2.5gigs ram
GF 7600gs 256 ram <-- at the time playing the beta i had this card
WinXP

Game ran fine the beta only allowed multiplayer so i had to have the internet running while playing, that right there is a shattering experience but SCII ran okay for this old beast - had graphics on low to some medium resolution 1280x1024. Just have to turn alot of the eye candy down but it still looked good at low settings.

Its the ingame cut scenes that will unfold the story as you play that is going to be the best thing for me, infact thats really what im looking forward to is the story its going to be grand :rock:Maybe i should just wait for someone to put up the story on Youtube save me a $100 bucks :hmmm: :)

Oh one thing i should mention there is no LAN support for SCII :down:

Spike88

07-27-10, 08:30 PM

Unless you have a pc older than this one you might have problems

cpu - Athlon XP 2.6ghz
2.5gigs ram
GF 7600gs 256 ram <-- at the time playing the beta i had this card
WinXP

Game ran fine the beta only allowed multiplayer so i had to have the internet running while playing, that right there is a shattering experience but SCII ran okay for this old beast - had graphics on low to some medium resolution 1280x1024. Just have to turn alot of the eye candy down but it still looked good at low settings.

Its the ingame cut scenes that will unfold the story as you play that is going to be the best thing for me, infact thats really what im looking forward to is the story its going to be grand :rock:Maybe i should just wait for someone to put up the story on Youtube save me a $100 bucks :hmmm: :)

Oh one thing i should mention there is no LAN support for SCII :down:

Hmmm, than I should be able to play on Medium with my
Intel Core 2 Duo 2.53ghz
4gig Ram
Mobile Radeon HD 4650 1024mb Ram.
64bit Windows 7.

Arclight

07-27-10, 09:15 PM

kiwi_2005

07-27-10, 10:21 PM

Hmmm, than I should be able to play on Medium with my
Intel Core 2 Duo 2.53ghz
4gig Ram
Mobile Radeon HD 4650 1024mb Ram.
64bit Windows 7.

Your rig should play SCII easily.

Castout

07-27-10, 10:41 PM

I'm just waiting for Diablo III

Same but would only buy it as long as a Paladin is one of the playable character/heroes. It's either holy smite or no smite at all :-D

HunterICX

07-28-10, 04:08 AM

Hmmm, than I should be able to play on Medium with my
Intel Core 2 Duo 2.53ghz
4gig Ram
Mobile Radeon HD 4650 1024mb Ram.
64bit Windows 7.

I run SCII on high on the following

Intel Duo Core E6750 (2.66ghz)
2 Gb DDR2 Ram
MSI NX8800GT 512mb DDR3
Windows XP SP2

so you'll be fine.

HunterICX

Dowly

07-28-10, 05:27 AM

Only played 3 missions, but I couldn't stop thinking about it. Fell asleep thinking about it, wok up thinking about it.

Wouldn't say it's addicting (yet), but it's definetly top quality. The bits between missions are maybe the best of the game. :DL

I got a bit mixed feelings about it. The gameplay is good, well it's identical to SCI, so nothing new to learn, biggest dislike is the lack of attack move command.

The campaign goes like this: After the few opening missions, you get a Battleship from which you launch your attacks on planet of your choosing to do different tasks, in return you get money and research points. Hmm... sounds awfully familiar.. where have I seen almost identical concept before... oh right DAWN OF WAR II! Really Blizzard, you can come up with your own ideas too, right? Or if you can't then don't take something that was utterly crap and port it into your own game. :shifty: DoW II's campaign got boring very fast, but atleast in that you evolved the same guys. In SCII, you can buy unit upgrades and mercenaries, which is IMHO useless. Why I want to buy a team of 2 Firebats when I can train 20 of them in the mission? :doh: The research points allow you to use either Zerg or Protoss technology to better your troops/abilities/buildings which is nice, with the exception that I don't get how I need some Zerg tech to get a big farking gun on-top of my bunker. :DL

Right, well I'm only 4-5 missions in, so hopefully it gets more exciting than this... or I have to start spending my time in the Canteen playing Lost Viking. :hmmm:

Arclight

07-28-10, 05:52 AM

It has attack move command. :roll:

Agree that mercs are useless though, rather spend the money on my own units.

The Zerg vs Protoss research doesn't really make sense, but it factors into which mission to choose; each mission either furthers Zerg or Protoss research.

Dowly

07-28-10, 05:58 AM

It has attack move command. :roll:

Ow right.. I'm stupid and you're right. :oops:

HunterICX

07-28-10, 06:09 AM

The campaign goes like this: After the few opening missions, you get a Battleship from which you launch your attacks on planet of your choosing to do different tasks, in return you get money and research points. Hmm... sounds awfully familiar.. where have I seen almost identical concept before... oh right DAWN OF WAR II! Really Blizzard, you can come up with your own ideas too, right?

Seems THQ lacks the same thing of comming up with their own ideas

when I tried DoW II I had the same feeling ''How ****ing original THQ'' :shifty: where have I seen this campaign system before ow yeah on the PS2 with Starwars Battlefront II you have your command ship and you can launch a attack on the planet of your choosing and if you won you got rewarded with bonuses and abilities.

basicly I just want to say:
http://img815.imageshack.us/img815/586/80801201.jpg

but in general who gives a damn we can root pretty much anything back to where it original came from. :03:

HunterICX

Arclight

07-28-10, 07:06 AM

Every FPS is a DOOM clone, every RTS is a Dune clone, every digital distribution system is a Steam clone, etc. :yep:

* not my opinion, but people tend to trace stuff back like that.

Dowly

07-28-10, 07:21 AM

but in general who gives a damn we can root pretty much anything back to where it original came from. :03:

HunterICX

From Games Workshop! NANA NAAA!! *runs away* :O:

But it's a good game, just would have wished more from Blizzard, especially for the story, (after 6-7 missions) I'm still not quite sure what the heck is going on. I mean, I know the ultimate goal is to eventually get the emperor, but then there's these small things that jump out like how I am suddenly willing to go out and hunt for some relic and kill some Protoss while I'm at it after earlier in the game Raynor said that "he has a past with Protoss and can probably reason with them". :doh: Is all ok, if it would be something to do with the plot, like Protoss being smacktards and not helping out in the war against the Zerg, instead holding back some weaponry or something that would be rightfully mine, now that'd be ok. Not a mission to go get a relic for some blackmarket guy who then sells it and gives me $100 000. 100k I don't even need!

AND WHY CAN'T I WATCH THE POLE DANCER CLOSER IN THE CANTEEN!!?? :stare:

Every FPS is a DOOM clone, every RTS is a Dune clone, every digital distribution system is a Steam clone, etc. :yep:

* not my opinion, but people tend to trace stuff back like that.

True that. And it applies to Warhammer & Warcraft aswell, Tolkien->Warhammer->Warcraft. Where the discussion gets hot is the WH40k vs. Starcraft bit, there's dozens of articles going in great detail examining the similarities between the two. :yep:

Arclight

07-28-10, 07:39 AM

Aye, recently had one on Kotaku as well. Just have to look at the art style and it's undeniable, not to mention the grunt in both being the "Space Marine".

Must say I get the impression you're just not interested in the story though. For example, the reason you're after these artifacts is because Tychus wants too. Raynor owes him one, so goes along in it. The clash with the Protoss was a different "clan" or something. :hmmm:

Sums it up pretty well: http://kotaku.com/5598410/starcraft-ii-singleplayer-impressions
Though you need to take care which units you build. Can't just churn out a horde of Marines and expect to win every fight.

Dowly

07-28-10, 08:31 AM

Must say I get the impression you're just not interested in the story though.

"Excited" would be better word to use. I've stopped being excited about SP experience looong ago after seeing game after game after game fail to construct an epic story (Bioware's holding out well in that regard). There's so many games that would have been awesome if the story would have been properly though over.

Not saying Blizzard can't make good stories, Warcraft 3 had a great story for example.

My beef with SCII's story is that everything just "pops up", usually without any explanation. For SC veterans this is not too big of an issue because they know the backstory about the first war, but for those new to the series it looks like lazyness; just throw everything into a basket and throw the player in it. What's the current state of the universe? Are humans pushed back? Recovering from the first war? Or did they come out clean and have since expanded? What's the story behind the Emperor? What happened with Raynor and the Protoss in the past? Why is Doc Hanson such a whiny bitch? When I can be arsed to clean my apartment? Is filtered coffee better than MacGyver coffee? What is that black spot on my wall? Why is Arclight going away->online->away all the time on Steam? :doh:

Arclight

07-28-10, 10:06 AM

Aye, fair enough. :haha:

I agree that the characters kinda pop up out of nowhere. Start a mission, some doc starts flapping her gums and next thing you know she's settling in on your ship. :doh:

The backstory is described in the manual though. First 8 pages are the usual technical stuff on how to double-click an icon to start the game and who to complain to if you can't manage that. Pages 9-19 deal with the backstory. Knew absolutely nothing about the first game, apart from the fact Koreans are really good at it (http://kotaku.com/5580080/korean-gamers-are-faster-than-a-speeding-bullet). Thanks to the bit in the manual I don't feel like I missed anything.

I really must say I think this is a good, even remarkable release... at least by todays standards. (yeah; which standards?)

HunterICX

07-28-10, 10:24 AM

Warcraft III was indeed a great story, but still you would be left in the dark if you hadn't played the previous games to understand things they where babling about. but that's blizzard for ya :)

funny thing was when I played a bit with SCII I couldn't help to notice that SCII is based on the same engine they used for Warcraft III but heavily tuned up. Hence the low system requirement the game needs to run nicely and looks very nice too.

I haven't played it that much but was intented too...but the voices are like broken glass against my ear drums :nope: so have to wait till my English Game client is finished downloading.

HunterICX

Dowly

07-28-10, 07:42 PM

Well that was easy. :hmmm: They just don't make them like they used to anymore, don't they?

kiwi_2005

07-28-10, 08:10 PM

In Wow you can tell whos brought SCII, as you get an ingame achievement and a miniature Marine to run around with you, last night in chat thats all i read ''so and so has earn the SCII achievement'' etc., with miniature marines tagging along everywhere ingame :roll:

Some have said that blizzard have copied dawn of war II in gameplay and similar story, is this right:hmmm: Haven't played DoW II

As for me i think i will give SCII a miss, I want to try it out but even though this pc ran the beta i got a funny feeling it wont run the full game - I could just imagine some player with a zerk rush of 500 units coming at me only for my pc to have a mental fit and restart :har:

Dowly

07-28-10, 08:35 PM

Some have said that blizzard have copied dawn of war II in gameplay and similar story, is this right:hmmm: Haven't played DoW II

Nope, the gameplay is different in that SCII uses the traditional RTS concept of build base and rush. DOW II has no base building and you control only a small squad.

Aaand no, the story is not copied either from what I remember from DOW II. How the campaign works is very similar to that of DOW II. The concept of the game world has been, should I say heavily influenced by that of Warhammer lore.

Dowly

07-28-10, 10:41 PM

http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee274/Finnish_Ferret/1_20BCs.jpg

Umm.... no we dont. :O:
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee274/Finnish_Ferret/2_20BCs.jpg

kiwi_2005

07-29-10, 03:03 AM

^:haha:
:rock:

ReFaN

07-29-10, 10:49 AM

Got it today, ingame the game is fine, cutscenes are all teared up, like this

http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/9302/screenshot2010072917351.jpg (http://img716.imageshack.us/i/screenshot2010072917351.jpg/)

drivers are up to date, nvidia Gforce 8800

Task Force

07-29-10, 12:33 PM

Try older drivers?

Dowly

07-29-10, 12:40 PM

ReFaN

07-29-10, 05:23 PM

@Refan

Are you forcing anything on from your Nvidia control panel? If so, try going back to "let the program decide". I had similar problems with one of the Hitman games when I tried to force stuff on.

hmm, that worked, seems you finish dudes are smarter then you look, Hah!

Thanks Dowly =)

tried my first Multiplayer game today aswell, built up my forces for about 5 minutes then i got rushed by units i couldnt even see and lost in 2 minutes, Fun!

Task Force

07-29-10, 05:46 PM

Aaaahhh. being rushed, isnt it a great feeling...

Dowly

07-29-10, 05:50 PM

Exactly the reason why I stopped playing these traditional RTS games online.

HunterICX

07-30-10, 04:04 AM

Exactly the reason why I stopped playing these traditional RTS games online.

Aye, well I only play these games in private games with buddies I know.
as in public games you'll probally find these Korean like geeks that perfom like 200 - 300 APM (action per minute) with everything binded on their keyboard...just NUTS :-?

here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbpCLqryN-Q your playing against ''that''

HunterICX

Dowly

07-30-10, 04:14 AM

Aye, well I only play these games in private games with buddies I know.
as in public games you'll probally find these Korean like geeks that perfom like 200 - 300 APM (action per minute) with everything binded on their keyboard...just NUTS :-?

here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbpCLqryN-Q your playing against ''that''

HunterICX

Yup, I used to play SCI at mate's place online back in the day when it was just released. And it was then when I saw the true nature of the game; the opponent had his base literally swarming with space marines, like 200 space marines. :shifty: Can't do much about that.

HunterICX

07-30-10, 04:27 AM

Yup, I used to play SCI at mate's place online back in the day when it was just released. And it was then when I saw the true nature of the game; the opponent had his base literally swarming with space marines, like 200 space marines. :shifty: Can't do much about that.

Nature of the game? or Nature of the Gamer :03:

HunterICX

Dowly

07-30-10, 04:32 AM

Nature of the game? or Nature of the Gamer :03:

HunterICX

The nature of the game becomes the nature of the gamer, adapt or lose, which in SC's case is learn to build ****loads of troops fast. :O:

Arclight

07-30-10, 08:53 AM

I've become accustomed to games that last hours, days, weeks and months. Not 30 minutes. :-?

That Laser Drill Could Use An Operating System Upgrade (http://kotaku.com/5599902/that-laser-drill-could-use-an-operating-system-upgrade)

Dowly

07-30-10, 09:12 AM

Haha, that lazer drill mission was fun. :DL The thing could shoot anywhere on the map if it was "unfogged". So, what I did was, I trained few ghosts with the "Cloak uses no energy" upgrade and parked them into the enemy bases. Didn't take long to systematically destroy the bases. :haha:

SgtPotato

07-30-10, 10:31 AM

Arclight

07-30-10, 10:45 AM

More because Tosh was a disaster waiting to happen. :hmm2:

Dowly

08-01-10, 11:41 AM

You chose Nova instead Tosh? Because of dat ass?

Because of the sniper ability.

HunterICX

08-07-10, 03:07 PM

Ha finally can enjoy playing SCII :yeah:

all I have to say for now ''Production Quality!!!''

and the good humor of Blizzard is back too :haha:

*Bzzzzzz* ''SLAP!'' Gotcha! -self destruct in 5..4..3..2..1 Whoops!

the game already brought a good couple of chuckles here and there...:DL

HunterICX