Cursor moving slow

[gg5356]

My cursor is moving very slow, anyway to make move faster.


MSI - AMD 2.3 quad core- 4gb ram- 500gb hdd
Geforce 9400GT- 1024gb/128 bit(new)
Vista 32bit


Unknow what the fps is or how to speed it up.

Thanks

[Tandrews]

Same Problem here. This has been driving me nuts!

[jwilliams]

try turning shadows off and see what its like then.

[Arclight]

I was going to suggest a new videocard, but that's a start. :lol:

[coasterdigi]

What you're experiencing is known as "mouse lag", and is kind one of those "classic" Nvidia problems. They have a really hard time with it, for some reason.

To increase performance there are a few things you can do. For one, turn off the shadows. That should help...a lot. Also, it sometimes helps to reduce the number of "prerendered frames" in the Nvidia settings.

How do I do that, you may ask? Well, let ol' digi show you!

First things first, you need to get to your Nvidia control panel. There are a couple of ways to do this:
1. Right click in an empty area of your desktop. You should see the "Nvidia Control Panel" in the context menu that appears.
http://i392.photobucket.com/albums/pp5/coasterdigi/ContextMenu.jpg
IF that doesn't work, you can get there by accessing your computer's control panel.

2. Once you open the Nvidia control panel, you'll see a number of options to the left-hand side of the screen. The one that we're interested in, is under the "3d Settings" group, and is labeled "Manage 3d Settings"
http://i392.photobucket.com/albums/pp5/coasterdigi/NvidiaCP1.jpg

In the main part of the window, select the "Program Settings" tab.

Now, there won't be an option to specify settings for SH5 specifically--we have to tell the Nvidia software that we want special settings for Silent Hunter. Sooo...click the "Add" button....
http://i392.photobucket.com/albums/pp5/coasterdigi/Add.jpg

...navigate to your SH5 folder (should be c:\ubisoft\Silent Hunter 5), select the "sh5" executable in the window, and click "open."
http://i392.photobucket.com/albums/pp5/coasterdigi/selectfile.jpg

Once you've done that, you'll see "sh5.exe" in the drop-down box next to the "Add" button, and a whole bunch of options below that. Scroll down until you see the item labeled "Maximum Prerendered Frames." Change the value from 3 to 1.
http://i392.photobucket.com/albums/pp5/coasterdigi/ChgPrerendered.jpg

...and don't forget to hit "Apply" or your changes won't be saved.
http://i392.photobucket.com/albums/pp5/coasterdigi/apply.jpg

Many users report a performance gain after doing this, especially when it pertains to mouse lag. Personally, I don't see much of a difference, but it makes the lag tolerable for me.

Essentially, Nvidia GPUs try to speed things up by having the CPU prerender a certain number of frames before displaying them on the monitor. It allows for smoother rendering most of the time, but, when a software cursor is involved, like in SH5, it can cause problems. This fix helps to alleviate that a bit.

Hope it works for ya. Good luck!

[ddrgn]

Awesome tute! Doing this and will test after a quick drinkie-poe ;]

[Tandrews]

Just tried this out (btw, I have a GTX260M - so not underpowered. I also have not had any issues with any currently released game).

I set shadows off and did as suggested above. I "thiink" it helped. I still see the mouse lagging while moving, but it is not quite as bad (at least I think it isn't) as before.

[coasterdigi]

Just tried this out (btw, I have a GTX260M - so not underpowered. I also have not had any issues with any currently released game).

I set shadows off and did as suggested above. I "thiink" it helped. I still see the mouse lagging while moving, but it is not quite as bad (at least I think it isn't) as before.

It's not so much a gpu processing power issue, as it is the way Nvidia handles rendering a software cursor. ATI cards don't really seem to have the problem. I've got dual 8800 GTs running in SLI, and I experience the problem, too.

Although, the lag in SH5 is NOTHING compared to ARMA 2. It's absolutely atrocious in that game.

[gg5356]

THANKS

[coasterdigi]

I saw a few more posts about this topic, so I'm bumping this.

[ricochet82]

same problem here, solved it with deactivating vsync in graphics options

[piri_reis]

I got this too, only when the FPS drops below 50.
Mouse smoothness is great in Nav.Map where fps is above 60. As soon as go in the CR or on the deck, the frames drop and I get a little lag.

System: Core2duo 3Ghz, 4GB, 9800GTX+ ,Win7_64

Settings: 1680x1050, No Vsync, Shadows none, AA medium

What I did was overclock my GPU a little and drop the pre-rendered frames to 1. (as explained in this thread)
Also in the CR if you close the hatches you'll get a nice 5-10fps boost.

So my final fps is 36-45 in port/action, CR 30-35, mouse lag bearable.

[gvogt12000]

Thanks a million! I would never had been able to fix it.

[misha1967]

same problem here, solved it with deactivating vsync in graphics options

Ditto here, except I force disabled it in NVIDIA Control Panel for SH5. Worked like a charm, no lag whatsoever after that.

Not quite sure what vsync is supposed to be good for in this day and age anyway. Seems like a relic from the 20th century when people still had those enormous boxes for a screen. I think they were called "CRTs" or something :haha:

Of course, Ubi (or at least the SH series) have always had a problem with NVIDIA users, all the way back to SHIII. I remember only too well having to wait for "fixes" to our cards. Fixes that always showed up, I should add.

Anyway, kill the vsync and all should be well with the cursor.

Good to be back, by the way. I'd held off on SH5 for ages since it got such poor reviews on launch and I really didn't want to go through what I'd gone through with SHIII again, especially since my heavily modded SHIII works like a charm, so it's not like I couldn't get my Battle for the Atlantic fix :DL

But I knew that I'd eventually get on board, particularly since I know from happy experience that the tireless work of the modders here at Subsim will ALWAYS come through, no matter what Ubi rushes out the door (and a huge shout out to the devs for keeping the platform open to that throughout all of its incarnations) and here I am. It was J-squared "Let's Plays" that finally got me. That and a visit to my old haunts here.

Once again, an enormous thank you to the modders without whom this niche of ours would be as dead as a doornail, a huge thanks to the devs for making sure that we can tinker with their toy to our hearts' contents, without which the modders would be unable to do anything and, of course, the biggest shoutout of all to "Uncle Neal" for keeping this community vibrant and alive throughout all of the years.

I guess I got sidetracked there a bit :DL

POST EDIT: Hmm... Killing off the vsync didn't do it. Playing with the graphics settings, on the other hand, did. I found out it was only an FPS issue. Below 30=lag, above 30=fine to excellent. The reason I hadn't thought of that was that I'm not exactly under-powered myself, and I have yet to need to turn any settings down below "max" on everything. And fear not, even with settings less than max, it still looks better than anything else out there, not to mention that it doesn't really look all that different from what it looks like with settings to max.

[kenmacintosh]

I had problems with erratic cursor movement so severe that it was impossible to play the Silent Hunter 4. I replaced my nVidia 9400 card with an ATI Radeon HD7770 and now the cursor responds perfectly and the game is playable with all graphic enhancements enabled. Thanks to coasterdigi for bringing the nVidia problem to our attention.

[THE_MASK]

Use antilag
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/downloads.php?do=file&id=2871
[config]
RenderAheadLimit=2
FPSlimit=38

[Gammel]

turning off VSync in nvidia driver tab gave me a huge improvement.
it should be cure your games symtomsand lead in most cases to much more responsibler game.

As reported also turning shadows down/off takes much stress vom the system. If you're using the shadow improvement mod use the low res version.

Have to say your System specs are not the best - i can barely play it (heavy moddes) with 40-50 fps, down to 30 in some situations with intel core i-5 and nvidia 550ti.
So maybe you'll habe to live with bad performance or have to upgrade your gaming rig - get a nice haswell cpu, won't regret ;-)
You can make the game show fps with ctrl/F8

[kapitan z.s.]

Mouse lag on my computer is horrible, i have tried on the lowest settings to no avail. I have a beast lap top i-7 32 gig ram 7970m vid card. Not sure what else to try? I can run most newer games at max settings. Any help would be great, its unplayable right now.

[neigenoirejz]

Use RadeonPro (free software) to set Flip Queue Size to lower value - it MAY get rid of mouse lag.


On the topic of mouse pointer moving too fast or too slow, I can only suggest one thing - buy a more expensive mouse with once-click DPI profiles that will change the pointer's acceleration speed on the go. I got one for 40 USD (30 EUR), couldn't be happier.

[kapitan z.s.]

I paid 59 dollars for this mouse it is supposed to be the best wireless mouse. It is a logitec mx. I used to play this on a slower pc and had no issues , can it be my mouse pad on my laptop combined with a wireless mouse? I have tried all the suggestions to no avail and would love to play this again. Sending out s.o.s.

[kapitan z.s.]

So i got frustrated and stopped trying to play sh 5 and then last night the mouse was acting normal, i did not do anything new??? I am happy but why?

[Aladdin]

Merci à ceux qui ont enfin pu régler ce problème de souris "trop lente"
Il suffit donc d'ouvrir l'interface de la carte graphique Nvidia -
Gestion des paramètres 3D
Onglet paramètres de programmes
Sélectionner (ou ajouter) : C ubisoft... SH5.exe
2 : processeur Nvidia haute performance
3 : spécifier les paramètres en cherchant la ligne :
Trames pré-rendues maximum (maximum pre-rendered frames en anglais..)
et régler (à droite) le paramètre à 1 au lieu de 3
Enregistrer et quitter
Tester le résultat dans le jeu.
Le curseur devient enfin maîtrisable .
God Bless --
Bon ! à l'attaque heu....à table et bonne journée !

:Kaleun_Cheers:

[Aktungbby]

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